Without using an opti app Cpu performance and credits are poor. Is there any plans to put out better cpu apps?
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On a Quad XEON I had a RAC of about 4800 to 5000 credit/day with the old 0.21SSE3 optimized app. Now with the standard 0.50SSE2 it went down to about 800 credit/day.

A unit takes more than 12 hours to complete now, before it was something like 4h30 IIRC.

If people are looking for credit then there is no point hanging around here any more, that is quite clear. Those of us interested in the science will be the only ones to stay. A shame because it was a good payer for quite a while, but I guess that nothing good lasts forever.

Now that DNETC has disappeared as well, I see no point in investing in any more ATI cards which I was thinking of doing, so I shall be saving my money for something else more rewarding, perhaps a decent holiday instead.

Even NCI stuff like Freehal has died, and I'm beginning to think that 2011 is heralding a barren time for Boinc in general.
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From looking at it for either credit, science or both it doesn't seem as worth it now. When the same task is much longer for the same science & credit it doesn't make sense to me.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

I still think that the science is worth it, even if it now does take longer than it did, for less credit. I will be sticking around, but I can't pretend that I'm not disappointed.

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If people are looking for credit then there is no point hanging around here any more, that is quite clear. Those of us interested in the science will be the only ones to stay.

Now that DNETC has disappeared as well, I see no point in investing in any more ATI cards which I was thinking of doing,

So you're really not interested in the science?

JK, hopefully the credit levels will return.

I know the whole credit issue mystifies the MW team, but they have to realize that DC BOINC has become a game/hobby/competition for many. No different than any other competition of which us humans are so fond. The added bonus is that we get to help science.

I don't do it for credit, I run Seti for 11 years now and since boinc exists I run seti/einstein/lhc/milkyway only. It's just dissapointing that milkyway credits went down like this, but I still run it.

Thanks for the work Crunch3r.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

yup, thanks Crunch3r! and if you need a beta tester for your optimized CPU app... ;-)

Are you crying? THERE'S NO CRYING IN SCIENCE!! Suck it up kids, science isn't all sunshine and blueberry pancakes.

Any update on the opti app?
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Matt,

Would it be possible to also issue a stock app_info.xml for MW@Home? It might eliminate some problems, especially for those of us who are not programmers, as well as helping with any troubleshooting by getting everyone on the same sheet of music.

Regards,
Steve

P.S. I'm on Ubuntu 11.04.................the rest of the world will have to look out for itself!! :)

That will be great to get a decent CPU app, not run a single MW WU since my PC upgrades to GTX460's coincided with the project upgrade and the Nvidia opti apps disappeared.

does this thread strictly pertain to an optimized app for de_separation tasks, or does it include n-body tasks as well?

I don't do it for credit, I run Seti for 11 years now and since boinc exists I run seti/einstein/lhc/milkyway only.

i'll probably join Muon1 DPAD (a non-BIONC project) when i get around to reallocating my resources.

You can also do Muon1 through Yoyo if you like.

Would it be possible to also issue a stock app_info.xml for MW@Home? It might eliminate some problems, especially for those of us who are not programmers, as well as helping with any troubleshooting by getting everyone on the same sheet of music.

Not sure what you mean by stock app_info. The point is it kind of isn't. Do you mean a template or something?

At any given point in time, MW has a number of computational campaigns underway,each with its own app. Some benefit from the GPUs, some don't.

I'm not a programmer. I don't know the syntax or information required for an app_info.xml.

Basically, since I have two machines, each with dual Fermis, and 16GB of DDR3 RAM and both AMD HexCore machines, I'd like to be able to run at least two WU's simultaneously on each card to more fully use them. Why tie up the machines on CPU WU's when GPU WU's are available? And why run just one WU at a time when the Fermi's can handle multiple simultaneous WU's depending on the cards GRAM?

If the MW programmers could provide an approved app_info.xml based on whatever the computational apps are, then the user would be able to use their machines more efficiently. Also, if there was a problem, you'd know it wasn't the app_info.xml.

Thanks,
Steve

Any update on the opti app?

I'm planning on a release for the first week in June.