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Message 1940 - Posted: 5 Mar 2008, 22:25:55 UTC

We've done a lot of updating recently, so if the application is erroring out for you, please post the platform so we know which ones to look into. I just updated the 64 bit linux binary, so I'm hoping that should fix some of the problems people are having
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Message 1983 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 19:53:48 UTC

Downloaded 20 WUs each on 2 different boxes and they all errored

Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU v1.19

All had output file absent
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Message 1984 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 20:00:23 UTC - in response to Message 1983.  

Downloaded 20 WUs each on 2 different boxes and they all errored

Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU v1.19

All had output file absent


In the process of fixing this. One of the libraries was not linked correctly. Corrected linux 32bit apps should be up today sometime. The linux apps also have optimization improvements to try and keep par with the Windows systems.
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Message 1989 - Posted: 6 Mar 2008, 21:17:43 UTC - in response to Message 1984.  

Downloaded 20 WUs each on 2 different boxes and they all errored

Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU v1.19

All had output file absent


In the process of fixing this. One of the libraries was not linked correctly. Corrected linux 32bit apps should be up today sometime. The linux apps also have optimization improvements to try and keep par with the Windows systems.


the new linux apps are up
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Message 2053 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 19:06:44 UTC
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I'm getting loads of errors on Win2Kpro ...
and since I'm only getting errors on Milkyway@home and not Cosmology@home that I run conterminously so I assume it's project specific ...

2008-03-07 19:09:02|Milkyway@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result gs_284_1204849413_34592_0 (There are no child processes to wait for. (0x80) - exit code 128 (0x80))
2008-03-07 19:09:02|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_284_1204849413_34592_0 finished
2008-03-07 19:09:02|Milkyway@home|Output file gs_284_1204849413_34592_0_0 for task gs_284_1204849413_34592_0 absent
2008-03-07 19:09:02|Cosmology@Home|Resuming task wu_030108_044431_1_0 using camb version 205



But then again, it seems like I'm running a very old version of the core app. v1.21 ???

Isn't it updating automatically ? or where can I update it ?

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Message 2054 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 19:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 2053.  

I'm getting loads of errors on Win2Kpro ...
and since I'm only getting errors on Milkyway@home and not Cosmology@home that I run conterminously so I assume it's project specific ...

2008-03-07 19:09:02|Milkyway@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result gs_284_1204849413_34592_0 (There are no child processes to wait for. (0x80) - exit code 128 (0x80))
2008-03-07 19:09:02|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_284_1204849413_34592_0 finished
2008-03-07 19:09:02|Milkyway@home|Output file gs_284_1204849413_34592_0_0 for task gs_284_1204849413_34592_0 absent
2008-03-07 19:09:02|Cosmology@Home|Resuming task wu_030108_044431_1_0 using camb version 205



But then again, it seems like I'm running a very old version of the core app. v1.21 ???

Isn't it updating automatically ? or where can I update it ?


we'll be updating 32 bit windows shortly which should fix the problems win2k users are having.
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Message 2055 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 19:55:22 UTC

Hi
I had the following on Win98SE

2008/03/07 8:30:28|Milkyway@home|Starting gs_280_1204857592_46387_0
2008/03/07 8:30:30|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:31|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:31|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:32|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:32|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:34|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_280_1204857592_46387_0 finished
2008/03/07 8:30:34|Milkyway@home|Output file gs_280_1204857592_46387_0_0 for task gs_280_1204857592_46387_0 absent


Another strange thing, after it reported like this,

2008/03/07 18:47:17|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 2 completed tasks
2008/03/07 18:47:23|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

it now does this every 10 minutes:

2008/03/07 18:57:26|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by project. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008/03/07 18:57:32|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

Why the request if not reporting complete tasks or requesting work?
I'm going to restart that pc now and see if that stops it.

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Message 2057 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 20:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 2055.  
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Hi
I had the following on Win98SE

2008/03/07 8:30:28|Milkyway@home|Starting gs_280_1204857592_46387_0
2008/03/07 8:30:30|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:31|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:31|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:32|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:32|Milkyway@home|[error] Process creation failed: A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
2008/03/07 8:30:34|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_280_1204857592_46387_0 finished
2008/03/07 8:30:34|Milkyway@home|Output file gs_280_1204857592_46387_0_0 for task gs_280_1204857592_46387_0 absent


Another strange thing, after it reported like this,

2008/03/07 18:47:17|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 2 completed tasks
2008/03/07 18:47:23|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

it now does this every 10 minutes:

2008/03/07 18:57:26|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by project. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008/03/07 18:57:32|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

Why the request if not reporting complete tasks or requesting work?
I'm going to restart that pc now and see if that stops it.

Rod


It's probably because you hit the "update button" instead of leaving boinc doing it's thing...

just let it run without taking manual action.

And since the RPC time is now down to 10 min you got that additional request for 0 seconds of work....




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Message 2058 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 20:20:05 UTC - in response to Message 2057.  

Hi
*SNIP*

Another strange thing, after it reported like this,

2008/03/07 18:47:17|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 2 completed tasks
2008/03/07 18:47:23|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

it now does this every 10 minutes:

2008/03/07 18:57:26|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by project. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008/03/07 18:57:32|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

Why the request if not reporting complete tasks or requesting work?
I'm going to restart that pc now and see if that stops it.

Rod


It's probably because you hit the "update button" instead of leaving boinc doing it's thing...


Even if I had done that it should surely make only one attempt, not repeatedly try, especially as it is making contact with the server.
But that's the issue, I actually didn't do anything. In fact I was at work and no one could have done it.

In trying to restart the pc I had "redir32.dll" (or "redir.dll" - not sure now) unable to end and had to hard power off. This has made the pc very unhappy and I'm still trying to get it to start up properly!

Safe to say, I'm sure the repeated connecting will be gone once the pc starts up again.

Thanks
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Message 2059 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 20:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 2058.  
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Even if I had done that it should surely make only one attempt, not repeatedly try, especially as it is making contact with the server.
But that's the issue, I actually didn't do anything. In fact I was at work and no one could have done it.

In trying to restart the pc I had "redir32.dll" (or "redir.dll" - not sure now) unable to end and had to hard power off. This has made the pc very unhappy and I'm still trying to get it to start up properly!

Safe to say, I'm sure the repeated connecting will be gone once the pc starts up again.

Thanks
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Well that's kinda strange cuz a "user request" can only be triggered by hitting the update button ... have a gost at home ? LOL

However just let that thing run without user/gost intitialised updates ;)
There should be a new app out soon that'll fix the issues on W2K,NT4 and Win98...




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Message 2060 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 20:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 2059.  
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Even if I had done that it should surely make only one attempt, not repeatedly try, especially as it is making contact with the server.
But that's the issue, I actually didn't do anything. In fact I was at work and no one could have done it.

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Well that's kinda strange cuz a "user request" can only be triggered by hitting the update button ... have a gost at home ? LOL

However just let that thing run without user/gost intitialised updates ;)
There should be a new app out soon that'll fix the issues on W2K,NT4 and Win98...



Blushing while typing this!
I've just looked through the messages and realized that I *was* at home at that time. I have 2 old laptops crunching. One of them (not the one in question) only gets a network connection when I swap network cables for up/downloading and reporting. Because of this I manually update that one so that the reporting gets done. I must have updated the wrong laptop! I guess that's what happens when you've only had 2 hours sleep the previous night!

By the way, it has a moment ago finally restarted! Will let you know what happens.

Sorry for getting off track a bit here - it's that lack of sleep thing!
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Message 2061 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 20:57:31 UTC - in response to Message 2060.  
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Blushing while typing this!
I've just looked through the messages and realized that I *was* at home at that time. I have 2 old laptops crunching. One of them (not the one in question) only gets a network connection when I swap network cables for up/downloading and reporting. Because of this I manually update that one so that the reporting gets done. I must have updated the wrong laptop! I guess that's what happens when you've only had 2 hours sleep the previous night!

By the way, it has a moment ago finally restarted! Will let you know what happens.

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Nah... no need to blush ;)

the new app is released ... if you still see 1.21 in your boincmanager you should reset the project to get the new 1.22 app. (that'll fix the issues)



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Even if I had done that it should surely make only one attempt, not repeatedly try, especially as it is making contact with the server.
But that's the issue, I actually didn't do anything. In fact I was at work and no one could have done it.

In trying to restart the pc I had "redir32.dll" (or "redir.dll" - not sure now) unable to end and had to hard power off. This has made the pc very unhappy and I'm still trying to get it to start up properly!

Safe to say, I'm sure the repeated connecting will be gone once the pc starts up again.

Thanks
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Well that's kinda strange cuz a "user request" can only be triggered by hitting the update button ... have a gost at home ? LOL

However just let that thing run without user/gost intitialised updates ;)

I am seeing this user request messages also without hitting update. Running version 1.21 on OSX Intel.

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There should be a new app out soon that'll fix the issues on W2K,NT4 and Win98...




I am seeing these user requests also on version 1.21 on Mac OSX Intel. In fact, I have 7 of them in 90 minutes.

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Message 2065 - Posted: 7 Mar 2008, 21:14:46 UTC - in response to Message 2061.  

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the new app is released ... if you still see 1.21 in your boincmanager you should reset the project to get the new 1.22 app. (that'll fix the issues)

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Ok several hosts now have 1.22, but I'm going to crunch for dreams@night now (23:14 local time). Will probably post again tomorrow night.

Many thanks for you helpful (and polite!) comments.
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Ok several hosts now have 1.22, but I'm going to crunch for dreams@night now (23:14 local time). Will probably post again tomorrow night.

Many thanks for you helpful (and polite!) comments.
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LOL...

dreams@night is kinda cool project too especially when you're tired ;)
Anyhow, glad i could be of help :)





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I am seeing these user requests also on version 1.21 on Mac OSX Intel. In fact, I have 7 of them in 90 minutes.

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well don't know about the mac stuff but just let it run. As far as i know there are no issues like those on older win platforms that cause computational errors.

Though the mac app seems quite slow...


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I am seeing these user requests also on version 1.21 on Mac OSX Intel. In fact, I have 7 of them in 90 minutes.

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well don't know about the mac stuff but just let it run. As far as i know there are no issues like those on older win platforms that cause computational errors.

Though the mac app seems quite slow...


i'll have to look into seeing if we can do the same optimizations (or similar) on the macs that were done on the windows machines, hopefully we can see a similar improvement in performance.
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i'll have to look into seeing if we can do the same optimizations (or similar) on the macs that were done on the windows machines, hopefully we can see a similar improvement in performance.


Well we can ... though not exactly the same type since osx uses gcc as compiler but we can safely asume some optimizations that we can use at osx like optimizing for SSE2 since ANY Intel/OSX HW is able to run SSE2 code...

Just let me know ;)


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i'll have to look into seeing if we can do the same optimizations (or similar) on the macs that were done on the windows machines, hopefully we can see a similar improvement in performance.


Well we can ... though not exactly the same type since osx uses gcc as compiler but we can safely asume some optimizations that we can use at osx like optimizing for SSE2 since ANY Intel/OSX HW is able to run SSE2 code...

Just let me know ;)


i really wish BOINC could be compiled with gcc on os x instead of xcode -- would make life a whole lot easier :)
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i'll have to look into seeing if we can do the same optimizations (or similar) on the macs that were done on the windows machines, hopefully we can see a similar improvement in performance.


Well we can ... though not exactly the same type since osx uses gcc as compiler but we can safely asume some optimizations that we can use at osx like optimizing for SSE2 since ANY Intel/OSX HW is able to run SSE2 code...

Just let me know ;)


i really wish BOINC could be compiled with gcc on os x instead of xcode -- would make life a whole lot easier :)


it can ... already did that.... btw... xcode is just a frontend to gcc jsut like vs 2005 is to cl... ;)

don't worry we get that one working too i'm sure of it ;)





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