Hello,

We'll be running two days of double-credits this week on Wednesday and Thursday to make up for outages earlier in the summer.

Cheers,
Matthew N

Believe it'll be Eastern due to labstaff's hours but I will get clarification on Tuesday.

I don't want to complain, as I'm not affected by this problem, but wouldn't it be a good idea to sort out the maximum time limit elapsed bug BEFORE the double credit days, so that actually everyone can get something from that?
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Werkstatt the labstaff doesn't work UTC hours. We do not control their hours.

Werkstatt the labstaff doesn't work UTC hours. We do not control their hours.

I think he meant that the 'starting time' should be shown in UTC hours.
If that can be done everybody will see the proper local start time of the double credit regardles of their location \ time zone.

Well, Werkstaff the labstaff doesn't work from
00h00m00s Wed. through 23:59:59 Thu. either.
Is the Eastern Time a for sure of still a belief
as previously stated?

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I see runtimes vary from 150 seconds to 280 seconds and all get 320.63 credits.
This was not the case this moring so something is going on...
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Greetings from,
TJ

The double credits are now running. Enjoy!

-Matthew N

working just fine here.

And D.A. Pinniger! I think that Werkstaff's post had zero to do with how the labstaff works, it is how the time is SHOWN.

As an example we can take a look at Matthew's firs post here. In the message header at the top you can read...

Message 50213 - Posted: 18 Jul 2011 | 23:11:26 UTC

The idea was just that the start time should be posted and shown in UTC time.

Darn! 2011-07-20 06:51:32 Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Darn! 2011-07-20 06:51:32 Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

You can ignore those messages - I'm was just doing a few quick restarts to make sure everything was running smoothly.

-Matthew

7/20/2011 12:17:16 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Edit: Back to normal. But if I wasn't here, I would have ran out of WUs before the hourly update.

For real this time, out of WUs.

7/20/2011 12:51:05 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Well, I'm quite disappointed that the double credit run, promised for early september a few days ago (as a fund-raising failed attempt), then cancelled, has been bumped so soon and announced with such a short notice.

As I'm away from my machines due to summer vacations, I won't be able to participate, as are all the people currently on summer break in the northern hemisphere, and I expect we are quite a few.

The least you could have done is to wait until september, as was previously announced, so that a lot more people would have been behind their desk.

Nonetheless, I will remain a strong supporter of MW@Home.

Sincerelly.

I think Abe got it about right.


You can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all the time.


What about us guy's who might/will be on holiday in September.


Michael.

You're quite right, michael.

But the odds are that there are more people on vacation in the summer months than in september, when school has started again (at least in the northern hemisphere).

The question should be : do you try to please as many people as you possibly can, or are you happy with fewer ?

My main complain though, is about the very short notice given to the crunchers.
Given a week's notice, I might have been able to have someone switch-on my main crunching machine with the ATI card.

Now it's unfortunately too late for me.

No biggy, but after the fund-raising misshap, a little more forethought might have been a good idea.

Anyway, decisions have to be made by people in charge and, as you stated, you can't please everybody all the time.
In any case, this won't change my interest and involvement in the project.

Cheers for keeping this long-standing promise. To be honest, I already gave up on that. Good to see you made up your mind and found a better decision.

Cheers for keeping this long-standing promise.

7/20/2011 12:17:16 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Edit: Back to normal. But if I wasn't here, I would have ran out of WUs before the hourly update.

For real this time, out of WUs.

7/20/2011 12:51:05 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

a helpful member FruehwF recently showed me how to write a batch file for the BOINC install directory (where boincmgr.exe is located) that updates the MW@H project, or more specifically forces BOINC to contact the MW@H scheduling server. i also scheduled a task through Windows that executes the batch file every 15 minutes - approx. the amount of time it takes my 5870 to crunch through the standard queue of 12 tasks. this way, if my host happens to contact the MW@H scheduling server during one of Matt's resets (that only last a few minutes), and i get deferred for an entire hour even though it really isn't down for nearly that long, the batch file will cause my host to contact the server again long before that hour passes.

I could use a copy of that with instructions.

500 tasks in 15 hours... i think everything runs smoothly.
:)

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Looks like the assimilator/validator crapped out. Not too bad yet:

nbody_assimilator milkyway Not Running

I could use a copy of that with instructions.

no problem.
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All my nbody wu are completing but my wingmen are all erroring out.It also appears that some run alot longer than othersis this normal ???

Regards

I've had them from 4-15 hours. Rather random at times.




Also the assimilator still seems stuck. (or stuck again)
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Sorry, can't agree with you on this one. Who made up " make up credits " ? Every time credits are overdone it dilutes and diminishes all the other work that has been completed. There will always be crunchers who would make their own credits if they could. Yes they cost you nothing but the simple fact is your project was down and nothing is owed. Credits are not to be altered for good or bad, period. Otherwise there is no point to having them at all. Patrick
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the simple fact is your project was down and nothing is owed. Patrick

We'll be running two days of double-credits this week on Wednesday and Thursday to make up for outages earlier in the summer.

Looks like it just ended, and about 12 hours short of 2 days...

Looks like it just ended, and about 12 hours short of 2 days...

well the servers went down approx. 12 hours shy of the end of the double credit period (36 hours into it). i didn't think to look at the credit values that i started earning when the server first came back online around 12:00 PM Eastern (16:00 UTC) today. after letting it run on its own for a while though, i came back to check the status of my host only to notice that my GPU had just started crunching MW@H tasks again, and that i was out of work for at least 5-10 min. perhaps this was just a server reset by Matt or Travis necessary to end the double credit period?

thanks for the update Blurf. that's a real stand-up thing to do, and i applaud those responsible. after all, many folks already got double credit for a solid ~36 hours. so to give for any more than another 12 hours is an additional bonus for many of us.
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There will be another set of double-credit days--just have to confirm them before announcing them.

There will be another set of double-credit days--just have to confirm them before announcing them.

Thanks!

It is my understanding that the double credits run was promised due to a database error, and not an outage. Therefore they represent compensation for an error on our side that resulted in credit lost for work done.

I wish they had been run closer to the original error

Are the "credits" relevant to us non-affiliated volunteers? If so, how?

Are the "credits" relevant to us non-affiliated volunteers? If so, how?

Are the "credits" relevant to us non-affiliated volunteers? If so, how?

No. The credits are only relevant for people for whom positions on a virtual scoreboard is more important than the work being done by this project.

We are still trying to decide when to run the 12 hours of double credits that were missing from the recent period.

I wish they had been run closer to the original error,

when does it typically start cooling off in Troy, NY? if the MW@H servers were down here in FL, it would be months before we'd be able to stop worrying about the summer heat...but i'm hoping that it starts to cool off up there sooner than it does down here...
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It is past the heat wave. Average high temps ~75-80F.

See here:http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/12180
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Thanks for the update.

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The server room that houses Milkyway@home is currently running on a backup AC system. As it is a server room, AC is required even when outside temperatures are not very high.

We are currently in the process of trying to move Milkyway@home from the current situation into a modern, stable computing center that has just been installed on campus. The details are still being worked out.

I will discuss the final 12 hours of double make-up credits with the group, but I would personally like to wait a little longer before starting them. The high temperatures are starting to average below 80F, so I think we will be able to run these in the next week or two. -Matthew N.