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Message 54426 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 20:00:26 UTC

Can the 7800 series run MW@H?

otherwise should i stick with 5850 and 6950?
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Message 54427 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 20:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 54426.  

Can the 7800 series run MW@H?

otherwise should i stick with 5850 and 6950?


Yes they can, but they only have 1/16th double precision as opposed to 1/4 for the 79xx.

My 7750 takes 10 minutes per, so I would guess around 5 minutes per for the 7850.

My 4830 takes 3:45 and my 5830 took 2:15.
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Message 54428 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 21:02:24 UTC
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What about some of the 4 and 5 series nvidia cards?

how do they compare time wise?
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Message 54429 - Posted: 16 May 2012, 4:11:11 UTC

I think my 560 was around 8 minutes and the 460 was at 10.
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Message 54431 - Posted: 16 May 2012, 7:29:46 UTC - in response to Message 54427.  

My 7750 takes 10 minutes per, so I would guess around 5 minutes per for the 7850.

And I thought my old HD3850 would be slow... but apparently with less than 7 minutes per WU it's faster than a current 100€-GPU... at least for Milkyway crunching.
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Message 54699 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 2:37:06 UTC
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My HD 7950 takes 41 seconds per task without an app_info.xml. Can't find a sample app_info.xml though, would love to stop the droops in utilization between completed and starting tasks.
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Message 54702 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 6:29:12 UTC - in response to Message 54699.  

You can use this app_info.xml to run two tasks parallel. Kick them out of phase and you will have lesser utilization-drops.

<app_info>
<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
</app>
<file_info>
  <name>milkyway_separation_1.02_windows_x86_64__opencl_amd_ati.exe</name>
  <executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
  <app_name>milkyway</app_name>
  <version_num>102</version_num>
    <flops>1.0e13</flops>
    <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
    <max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus>
    <plan_class>opencl_amd</plan_class>
    <coproc>
      <type>ATI</type>
      <count>0.5</count>
    </coproc>
    <cmdline></cmdline>
  <file_ref>
   <file_name>milkyway_separation_1.02_windows_x86_64__opencl_amd_ati.exe</file_name>
   <main_program/>
  </file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>


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Message 54704 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 8:16:00 UTC

Thank you [boinc.at] Nowi,
I have been looking for an app_info formated correctly for Milkyway.
You are right about putting them out of phase. I paused the second
one till about 40% thru the first one and now they don't both try to use
the CPU at the same time. Sweet !
We had been using Boinc manager to reserve a CPU core but for some reason
using the app_info and putting the CPU setting in Boinc back to 100% seems
to better the run time. Was 43 sec. running 1 , and now it is 76 sec. running 2.
76/2 = 38 sec. each.
Should increase our RAC a good bit.
Now if we could only afford a second 7970 we could really pump up the RAC... ;-)
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Message 54719 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 12:36:08 UTC - in response to Message 54431.  

My 7750 takes 10 minutes per, so I would guess around 5 minutes per for the 7850.

And I thought my old HD3850 would be slow... but apparently with less than 7 minutes per WU it's faster than a current 100€-GPU... at least for Milkyway crunching.


Lol i was thinking the same right now ^^
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Message 54739 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 17:53:01 UTC

You can compare the theoretical douple precision performance here in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units

GPU SP DP
3870 496 99.2
4770 960 192
7750 819 51.2
7870 2560 180

a 4770 gets about 70k a day. i won't expect much more from a 7870. I guess 2.5 to 3 min for a WU on the 7870.

Tomast, is you 7970 a standard card 925 core and 1375 mem or a overclocked card? It could also be a "2 cards in one box" problem. With 2 cards i need 45 to 47 sec for a WU.

Thank you very much [boinc.at] Nowi for the app_info.xml file :)

PS: I had the oportunity to test MW on a Tesla (GTX 480 version of Tesla) a WU took 4 min there. That was roughly a year ago. Does anyone knows how long a WU on a normal GTX 480 runs? The Tesla cards should have 1/2 DP of the SP power.
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Message 54742 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 20:41:06 UTC - in response to Message 54739.  

Sebastian* ,
It is 950 MHz GPU clock and 1425 MHz Mem clock. (Factory Overclocked)
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Message 54749 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 23:23:06 UTC

I am running 2 ati 6950 cards+they take 1:08 each to run.I would like to try running 2 wu's per gpu.I tried to use the app_info file from the above post,but I keep getting that boinc cannot find any compatible files+it aborts all the other wu's.I am using boinc 7.0.25 with windows xp 32 bit.What am I doing wrong?Thanks,Kurt
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Message 54752 - Posted: 11 Jun 2012, 0:23:37 UTC - in response to Message 54749.  
Last modified: 11 Jun 2012, 0:25:26 UTC

I am running 2 ati 6950 cards+they take 1:08 each to run.I would like to try running 2 wu's per gpu.I tried to use the app_info file from the above post,but I keep getting that boinc cannot find any compatible files+it aborts all the other wu's.I am using boinc 7.0.25 with windows xp 32 bit.What am I doing wrong?Thanks,Kurt

This one works for me:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>milkyway_separation_1.02_windows_x86_64__opencl_amd_ati.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>102</version_num>
<flops>1.0e11</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati14ati</plan_class>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<cmdline>--gpu-target-frequency 10 --gpu-disable-checkpointing</cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>milkyway_separation_1.02_windows_x86_64__opencl_amd_ati.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

[edit] Oops. Didn't notice you're using 32 bit [/edit]
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Message 54812 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 3:28:07 UTC

I can confirm that running a 7850 at 900MHz completes the workunit in 5 minutes.
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Message 54864 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 2:06:13 UTC - in response to Message 54699.  

If you want to have only MT WU's use your CPU and have the separations only crunch on your GPU's since it's way faster, the following is the app_info that I made and that I use. I can now crunch 3 WU's of the multi-threaded work units(4 cores per unit) and 4 of the GPU work units (2 units per card).
I'm on 2x 7970's and I can pump out 4 GPU work units in total every 77 seconds.

As per http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=2841

<app_info>
<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>milkyway_separation_1.02_windows_x86_64__opencl_amd_ati.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>102</version_num>
<flops>1.0e11</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati14ati</plan_class>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<cmdline>--gpu-target-frequency 10 --gpu-disable-checkpointing</cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>milkyway_separation_1.02_windows_x86_64__opencl_amd_ati.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>milkyway_nbody</name>
<user_friendly_name>MilkyWay@Home nbody Simulation</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>milkyway_nbody_0.84_windows_x86_64__mt.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libgomp_64-1.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>pthreadGC2_64.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway_nbody</app_name>
<version_num>84</version_num>
<plan_class>mt</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>4</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>4</max_ncpus>
<cmdline>--nthreads=4</cmdline>
<file_ref>
<file_name>milkyway_nbody_0.84_windows_x86_64__mt.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libgomp_64-1.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>pthreadGC2_64.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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Message 54971 - Posted: 3 Jul 2012, 1:06:00 UTC

HI!

Have recently installed a HD 7850 in my system. Just wondering if it's natural for MW@Home 1.02 WU completion time to vary much, as fastest so far has been 5m04s and slowest 8m15s? Previous card (HD 5850 OC (765/4500)) completed every WU in 1m23s which was also the estimated time to completion.

With the HD 7850 the estimated completion time is consistently 3m01s.

Thanks in advance.
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