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Krazy Kenzie’s Kredit Krunch
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Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 53 Credit: 116,163 RAC: 0 |
{Special note for MW users: it is not that I want to impinge on CampaignForLiberty’s little test, and he beat me to it by a few hours, but, I did have a similar idea. Since I am actually using the same computer, and processing four different projects instead of two, it will take about a month for accurate results. Think of my lowly, amateur efforts as a control, eh? Let‘s see what happens.} Here is the plan: I am going to run Q-Baby 24/7, all four cores, for a week on each of four different projects: SETI, Einstein, PrimeGrid and MilkyWay. For the purposes of the experiment, I am only going to be using stock, project supplied applications. I will be using this basic formula to estimate the weeks worth of credit earned: Credit Gain = (Ending Credit + New Pending1,2) - (Start Credit + Start Pending2) 1 Pending credit acquired during the week. 2 For projects with a large discrepancy between pending and awarded credit, I will manually guesstimate the difference. Also, if a project runs out of work during the week, I will extrapolate credit to fill the idle hours. I've only one computer and it is unhidden so feel free to check my results for yourself. Before anyone points out the boincstats link that shows all of this already or, even worse, starts crying that my experiment is neither fair nor impartial: I admit all of the above. I just want to make my own measurements. And, being an admitted attention-seeking-person, I figured I would invite you all along for the ride. Additionally, in the interests of fairness, I am starting similar threads in the other three concerned projects. Finally, I freely admit that I have my own preconceived ideas about how all of this will turn out. (My guess, lowest to highest, SETI, Einstein, PrimeGrid, and by a comfortable margin in the credit lead, MilkyWay,) but I think that most of you who know me from other projects know that I will run my experiment honestly and present the results as received. (And will eat crow, if necessary.) I am only going to be posting to this thread to provide weekly updates so, feel free to discuss amongst yourselves the many error of my ways. I will begin crunching SETI at 19:00, PST, February 23, 2009. SETI will end and Einstein begin at 19:00, March 2, 2009. Einstein will end and PrimeGrid begin at 19:00 PST, March 9, 2009. PrimeGrid will end and MilkyWay will begin at 19:00 PST, March 16, 2009. MilkyWay will end at 19:00 PST, March, 23. Results will be posted by 21:00 PST, March 23. Help feed the world's hungry: Free Rice |
Send message Joined: 1 Feb 09 Posts: 452 Credit: 27,367 RAC: 0 |
Nice one Kenzie. I look forward to seeing the results of both yours and CampaignForLiberty’s test. I've already pointed this out, but I'll say it again, that i have been crunching solely Einstein and Milkyway on an equal resource share with no optimised aps since I joined this project. It is clear that Milkyway is granting more credit than Einstein. Einstein: 98 Milkyway: 108 This gap has been getting larger. |
Send message Joined: 4 Oct 08 Posts: 1734 Credit: 64,228,409 RAC: 0 |
Go for the comparison test, Kenzie, and I look forwards to the conclusions as they develop. |
Send message Joined: 20 Sep 08 Posts: 1391 Credit: 203,563,566 RAC: 0 |
Yes, all speed to you kenzie, look forward to seeing some results. I like this one as it will be fully representative of what the average end user will see when comparing results and deciding which project to go for. Kenzie like us, won't be tainting her results with all the technical whys and wherefores of fair or unfair comparisons. The only small comment I would make is that the results will be mainly applicable to her machine and others like it. They may not apply to say a P4 3Ghz, as some projects are more favourable to the slower machines, and some to the faster ones. |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
cool :) I'm interested to see the results, and also what platforms were used. At least for milkyway it seems that there's a bit of disparity between linux, OS X and windows (and their respective 32 and 64 bit versions). |
Send message Joined: 7 Sep 07 Posts: 444 Credit: 5,712,451 RAC: 0 |
Looking forward to seeing the results. I have one question: when it's time to start the next project will you be cancelling any unfinished work? |
Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 53 Credit: 116,163 RAC: 0 |
Okay, here we go. Now crunching SAH MB with Berkeley supplied apps. Starting credit is: 324 930 + 1302 pending = 326 232 @ Odd-Rod I am setting my cache to 1 day and will go NNT about 18 hours before the end of each test and keep a close eye on things the rest of the way. Some wu’s will likely end up being trashed (apologies to my wing-peeps) but it shouldn’t be too bad. Help feed the world's hungry: Free Rice |
Send message Joined: 7 Sep 07 Posts: 444 Credit: 5,712,451 RAC: 0 |
@ Odd-Rod Thanks for the reply. Trashing should only mean a delay in the credits being awarded. Wouldn't bother me. Rod |
Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 53 Credit: 116,163 RAC: 0 |
Just a weekly update: New SAH total including new pending over 168 hours: 338 278 Credit gain: 12 046 71.7 credit/hr Now crunching Einstein. Starting Einstein credit: 70 960 See you in a week. Help feed the world's hungry: Free Rice |
Send message Joined: 1 Dec 08 Posts: 139 Credit: 8,721,208 RAC: 0 |
kenzieB wrote: Here is the plan: I am going to run Q-Baby 24/7, all four cores, for a week on each of four different projects: SETI, Einstein, PrimeGrid and MilkyWay. For the purposes of the experiment, I am only going to be using stock, project supplied applications. A fine idea. As far as I'm concerned, the more of these tests we can do, the better. Nicely done page on Q-Baby, though one thing that's not clear is what OS you're running, and I'm not "ept" enough to know how to find out offhand. |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 |
Looks to be XP. Goto 'view computers' under his name. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
Send message Joined: 1 Dec 08 Posts: 139 Credit: 8,721,208 RAC: 0 |
Lloyd wrote:
banditwolf wrote: Looks to be XP. Goto 'view computers' under his name. D'oh! It really sucks to be ignorant, sometimes ;^) |
Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 53 Credit: 116,163 RAC: 0 |
LOL. It is actually dual boot (Ubuntu and Windows), but for the purposes of this test, XP, SP3. Help feed the world's hungry: Free Rice |
Send message Joined: 14 Feb 09 Posts: 999 Credit: 74,932,619 RAC: 0 |
Fixed that for you!! |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 |
Sorry. :P It was ment in a general way. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 53 Credit: 116,163 RAC: 0 |
Weekly update. New Einstein total including pending (guesstimated at 3.5X multiplier) over 168 hours: 90 618 Credit gain: 19 658 117.01 credit/hr Nowcrunching Prime Grid (PPS-LLR) Starting PG credit: 32 203 See ya next Monday. :o) Help feed the world's hungry: Free Rice |
Send message Joined: 23 Jun 08 Posts: 53 Credit: 116,163 RAC: 0 |
Weekly update: New PG total including pending: 94 856 Old total (typo last week, oops) 82 203 Credit gain: 12 653 77.15/hr over 164 hours (due to 4 hour power outage) Now crunching Milky Way, project supplied apps. Starting 50 818 See ya in a week. :o) Help feed the world's hungry: Free Rice |
Send message Joined: 1 Dec 08 Posts: 139 Credit: 8,721,208 RAC: 0 |
kenzieB wrote: See ya in a week. :o) Cool. Looking forward to it, and thanks for doing this. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 08 Posts: 7 Credit: 126,077,128 RAC: 0 |
Is your test broken, i did not see any results after nine days |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 |
Understandable. Thanks for doing the tests. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
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