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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 8209)
Posted 6 Jan 2009 by voltron
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I vote for upgrading your hardware. This is a waste of bandwidth. This could also be considered a game of "dress the dolly".
2) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough also (Message 5382)
Posted 8 Oct 2008 by voltron
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I decided early this morning to move along. The beast has bit cs.rpi. MW is alpha and they are learning a lot from the volunteers. All evidence indicates underpowered hardware, fragmented software control, and a resource shortfall are the immediate lessons.

See my earlier post for my comments on the playing field. "Draining my Q's".

I have morphed and gone overseas.


Regards-Voltron
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Draining My Q's (Message 5367)
Posted 8 Oct 2008 by voltron
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I'm more than willing to continue with MW as my full time project. It is unfortunate that recent events reveal a seriously flawed playing field.

I can no longer justify the expense of contributing to MW. The failure of the project to field optimized code for all (emphasis on all) with more than adequate server support is the main reason I will be looking to sign on to another Boinc study.

I have given this a lot of thought. My evaluation of current circumstances plus the most recent admin message about inefficiencies and the implied organizational failures that support same leaves me with some very uncomfortable feelings about MW.

I am looking for a project that offers a "full pull" for my contributions. I know I offer one in return.

All it will take is a level playing field. So simple yet so hard to find.

Regards-Voltron
4) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough also (Message 5352)
Posted 8 Oct 2008 by voltron
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I think I said that. They don't have the horsepower we do.

Regards-V0ltron
5) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough also (Message 5339)
Posted 7 Oct 2008 by voltron
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Science on a string cannot support optimized code. It doesn't take a wizard to figure out the limitations of the project servers given the fact that the WU's duration was increased by a factor of 10 to reduce overload on the MW hardware. Imagine optimized code fielded to all users. The project would be toast.

If the mods and admins sound a little overwhelmed, remember the story of the emperors new clothes.

Keep those kilowatts pushing this overloaded SUV. Concerned about mileage? You can always vote with your feet.

Regards-Voltron
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Linux 32 or 64 bit? (Message 5304)
Posted 6 Oct 2008 by voltron
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If you are a Linux beginner (I am), I recommend you start with Ubuntu 64 bit. I tried a number of distros before I found Ubuntu and shazam! It does me just fine.

It helps if you have a spare 64 bit box so you can try a number of distros to find one that fits your personal style. I use an older socket 754 box with a small hard drive. If one distro gives you fits, blow it away and burn another.

I am currently playing with Tiny Me on a nostalgia build. It's a 1.4ghz tualatin Pentium III with 512 meg of ecc ram. This is not a cruncher by any means, but lets me play with 32 bit distros to my heart's content.

The Synaptic package manager in Ubuntu allows you to select and install additional software like Boinc with no hassles.

Regards-Voltron
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 5251)
Posted 23 Sep 2008 by voltron
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The leaders here want to thank all of you for your enthusiasm and contributions to the project.

Having said that, the din of self backslapping is getting a far greater share of the message board server than it deserves.

RAC trumps post count.

Voltron
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Question about Data Units (Message 5099)
Posted 29 Aug 2008 by voltron
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Ronnie C and his Pentium III (733), is getting a large amount of attention from some very talented people (myself excepted).

He apparently feels the impact of his cherished hardware on this project deserves
major revisions to the protocol the rest of us are satisfied with.

Have I missed something?

Ronnie, lose the doorstop.

Voltron
9) Message boards : Number crunching : I'm new in this project. Is there any opti app for win32? (Message 4701)
Posted 15 Aug 2008 by voltron
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Hi my friends!!!

I'm new in this project.

Someone can tell me if there is one opti app for win32 like for other OS?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.


Welcome to the project and we appreciate your Intel quad. Your best bet is to get a 64 bit operating system on your rig. I recommend Ubuntu Linux. If you check the Top Participants pages you will find that 64 bit Linux does quite well among the project leaders. Installing Ubuntu alongside the Redmond product is quite simple and will allow you to dual boot. It will also make the best use of your 64 bit processor with amazing efficiency and very low memory requirements.

As to a specific optimized application for 32 bit XP, I defer to our 32 bit community for an expert answer.

My answer is "I don't think so".

Voltron

10) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : Goal (Message 4688)
Posted 14 Aug 2008 by voltron
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[/quote]The primary goal of Milkyway@home is to study tidal debris through the use of a maximum likelihood technique that utilizes volunteer computing. However, the goal is also to understand the power of volunteer computing. This latter part is possible because we have developed the code such that it can be ran on BOINC, on a supercomputer, and on a cluster of machines. Therefore, we can easily compare these results and determine a good measure of how the resources compare. Therefore, the goal is truly two-fold. [/quote]


Bravo. Thank you for taking the time to give all the volunteers a peek at the purpose and process at M@H. We all know you are not the designated baby sitter but we certainly appreciate a little recognition now and then.

As a token of my esteem, I just brought on line a Phenom 9850 running at 3.1 ghz.

These AMD monsters do love to crunch.

Voltron




11) Message boards : Number crunching : When will the deadline be extended? (Message 4643)
Posted 7 Aug 2008 by voltron
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I won't loose it, I don't run it hard.



If you ran it hard you might make the deadline.

Voltron
12) Message boards : Number crunching : When will the deadline be extended? (Message 4641)
Posted 6 Aug 2008 by voltron
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When will TRAVIS or any other admin. extend the deadline?


My best estimate is right after you lose that P4 single core and upgrade to at least a dual.

Voltron
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4445)
Posted 24 Jul 2008 by voltron
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Could one of the Admins delete this thread before it takes down the server?

Voltron
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Lack of communication (Message 4382)
Posted 22 Jul 2008 by voltron
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Meanwhile the rest of us continue to burn electricity and cycles for nothing, and our other project work is shut out.

No more for me. I'm now blocking MilkyWay units on all my machines.


You think this is bad, try Orbit@home. I pulled a couple of work units from them that went 137 hours each on a "hotrodded" A64 dual core. What do you expect to accomplish with a hagged out lappy running a Pentium III from 1999?

The Katmai was the first iteration of the p III and one step up from the P II.

I am having some difficulty understanding why you are complaining about swimming with the sharks when all you brought to the party was a rubber ducky.

Voltron
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4358)
Posted 22 Jul 2008 by voltron
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[/quote]
No John. Jeff and the many others are right.

You keep repeating and repeating that there is "the problem". Yet you have not proved it. You haven’t even tried to refute many of the explanations that have been presented here. You just repeat your mantra, or you invoke the “authority” of the founders. That’s not an argument. That’s sophistry.

Ever hear the phrase: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”? Words for an engineer to live by.

If there are no untoward consequences of something, there is no problem, no matter how many times you keep saying there is. Saying it over and over again doesn’t make it so.

We have shown you that the only thing you've described as a possible consequence - credits inflation - isn't happening. Numerous posters here have given various good reasons why it’s not happening, which you have failed to rebut.

No untoward consequences equals no problem. So face it. Since there are no untoward consequences, THERE IS NO PROBLEM! It’s not rational to go around obsessing about an imaginary “problem” that has no untoward consequences.

Nothing needs to be fixed. No harm of any consequence is being done. You haven't proved otherwise.

There is no credits problem.

So stop saying there is. And leave people alone. Go find something to fix that’s actually causing harm.[/quote]

This is what happens when you "take the bait". Drop this loser and find a better way to waste our time.

Voltron
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4307)
Posted 21 Jul 2008 by voltron
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Just stop already............You don't like the credits given here...

Go somewhere else!


You don't get credits for what's rattling around in your head, pinging your sense of fairness, or offending your grand sense of the order of things.

I believe they are granted for what you have plugged into the wall.

Voltron
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4273)
Posted 21 Jul 2008 by voltron
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Care for some cheese with that?

Your selection of projects should match your level of comfort and organization.

For most of us it's "run it and gun it".

Voltron
18) Message boards : Number crunching : New Math Formula (Message 4270)
Posted 20 Jul 2008 by voltron
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So there seems to be a paradoxical mystery going on here as to the exact sequence of events. It might be possible to determine more by looking over the daemon logfiles in an editor. These are normally are more comprehensive since they survive over restarts, whereas the Manager on displays what's been logged since the last restart.

HTH,

Alinator


I had to take down one of my rigs for some maintenance (northbridge fan got the screaming meamies). The box I brought on line as a replacement hadn't connected to the server since the quick fix. It received a 20 pack of the 3 minute WU's which are fast turning into 6 hour specials. Lucky for me it is a dual core 2180 running at 3.4 ghz or there would be some issue with completing the 20 pack by the 25th of July. This may be related to Heidi's flux. The milkdud flux may also share the blame. It is obviously a capacitor issue up and down.

Note to Heidi: Don't confuse humor with insults. While there is too little of the former and plenty of the latter, the MW team prefers humor always.

Voltron
19) Message boards : Number crunching : New Math Formula (Message 4258)
Posted 20 Jul 2008 by voltron
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You should have tried Starting the Delorean 5 Days ago and maybe there would have been enough gas in it to finish the Wu Trip ... ;)



mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....flux capacitor.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Guidence from Project Team Requested (Message 4213)
Posted 17 Jul 2008 by voltron
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In some of the other threads here, strategies for dealing with the new work as it stands have been laid out for working around operational issues for the hosts.

However, they all have their good points and bad points and depending on how long it will be before new parameters are set by the project makes a difference on which way to go depending on individual circumstances. So an idea of when the adjusted searches will start would be handy for those of us who have tweaked MW on our hosts to accomodate other projects better and make sure this won't cause other problems when they arrive.

If memory serves me, once a work set is generated it's not an easy matter to make changes to it, without just summarily canceling it and starting over. So I assume that's not an option and we are going to continue running the current sets in the field before we see any changes.

Also, since currently have 'short, medium, and long' ones to work on now, it would be handy to know which one you are leaning towards going forward (medium, long, or something else).

Also, info on what the range for FPOP's you're thinking about would be helpful, as well as a what the new deadlines might be like. The latter will be important in evaluating how well MW will play with other projects at a given CI/Work Cache setting.

TIA,

Alinator



And your question is................?

Eh?


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