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1) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 34241)
Posted 5 Dec 2009 by Angus
Thrashing disk drive
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 33909)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Angus


Travis has already told you that giving you more WUs in your cache ends up bringing the project to a halt due to the server not being able to handle it.

In other words, giving you all more of these small tasks will end up with you having MORE outages, so it would mean you had less work in total. The "crunching availability" would decrease, not increase...


Maybe if BOINC didn't use a hobbyist database and the projects didn't use rinky-dink servers the thing would work better.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Project down (Message 10013)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Angus
I thought you left...
4) Message boards : Number crunching : @MW staff: credit limit and credit level (Message 6257)
Posted 18 Nov 2008 by Angus
Hi Cruncher, did you ever come to think about that your insults wouldn't get any jota better because someone else did do a similar mistake anywhen?

And besides that: I was nearly the first who heavily criticized the picture with the faces of the most famous dictators. So don't try to blandish your infamous comparisms. Of another caricature I don't know of.

And I don't exactly know which team you mean. I think it was someone fron banned for life but no former member of SG. And I couldn't leave Banned for Life anymore because my account was deleted.

So try your cheap excuses elsewhere. And before I discuss such aspects with you, you should massively step up your level of moral integrity .



This from the one who took a humorous reference to the Kredit Kops and twisted it into an ugly imaginary reference to the kkk - nice moral twisting.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 5814)
Posted 2 Nov 2008 by Angus
BS - you jumped to a wrong interpretation. Get over it.

Try a Google search for "Kredit Kops" you'll get hits from BOINC projects all over the place, even on this project weeks ago. I'm certainly not the first one to use the term, with this spelling.

I wil admit to intending an insult , but only to David A and his gang of Kredit Kops for trying to assert their imaginary credit authority over the projects.

You are adding your own meaning to this - it was intended to be a reference to the hapless comedic Keystone Kops of old movie fame.


Angus, this is not a game and not fun. This was a very serious insult by you and you cannot sneak out of your responsibility by inventing some pretty side references.

Such an alliteration always implies all interpretations according to their publicity. It would be your job to qualify which was meant, if it wasn't the number one meaning but number #437 or whatever.

If you don't do that, then you do intend it to be understood as the normal meaning of kkk.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 5802)
Posted 2 Nov 2008 by Angus
You are adding your own meaning to this - it was intended to be a reference to the hapless comedic Keystone Kops of old movie fame.
Cross -project stats parity is a pipedream of David A and his komedic Kredit Kops. I shall assume you are a member of the group.

emphasis of the incriminated expression added by me


Since I do assume that your are not dumb as a nutshell I believe that you are totally aware of your highly insulting expression.
The comparism to the Ku-Klux-Klan is overstepping every limit. I didn't do anything to you.
You just had no argument left, so you start insulting. This is very poor and not tolerable.

I hope you rethink your writing and consider to seriously apologize.

regards Kalessin


7) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 5796)
Posted 2 Nov 2008 by Angus
Let's just go global with your analogy. You going to make all those countries around the world have one currency? Not happening.

Cross -project stats parity is a pipedream of David A and his komedic Kredit Kops. I shall assume you are a member of the group.

Each project can choose to either make the stats files available or not. It is their choice. As soon as they choose to, then they should have to play by the same rules (or close enough). If not then it would be like each state in the US having a different currency where 1 Texan dollar may not be worth the same as 1 Georgia dollar etc.

No. The stats sites can import and display all the stats they want.

The issue is that there is no need to compare stats from one project with any other projects. Maybe that makes the stats sites un-needed, but probably not. The good ones display stats from other non-Boinc projects as well and have no burning need to compare those. It's simply a convenient way to track your stats on all projects in one place.


No project is giving credit in isolation that allows their stats to be imported by the various stats sites. If a project operates in complete isolation then I agree, they can do what they like, but as soon as their stats start getting reported at the stats sites then they need to play fair in respect to the other projects. Nothing absurd in that, in fact quite reasonable.

That's totally absurd. There is no reason to think every group running a project on the BOINC platform has to meet some arbitrary credit award scheme.

These projects stand alone, the fact that they use BOINC is no more material than the fact that most PCs run on Windows. BOINC is freely availabe for anyone to use it the way they see fit. If they want to award 1000 times the credit of the other BOINC projects, so what? There is NOTHING that the megalomaniac David A can do to enforce his credit scheme.

I think it's a gross misrepresentation that Dr A wants everyone to do SETI, in fact, I believe, he doesn't want any single project giving more incentive to draw crunchers to a specific project to the detriment of other projects. That would be a failure of the BOINC concept. He is after the ideal, which doesn't exist, but he has every right to ask the projects to consider what they're doing taking into account how their actions impact other projects.

Fair enough I reckon.

BTW....love the optimised app. Thanks Milksop!

Live long and BOINC!

Paul.





8) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 5795)
Posted 2 Nov 2008 by Angus
Why not? Just go back to one credit for one completed WU.

Or just eliminate credits altogether - then we would really see who's here for the science and who's here for the credit.

I agree with gas giant.
Also I would add the simple thought, that if a project were only for itself, than they could reduce the credits even better.
All those who cry for high credits are exactly those who do compare a lot between projects and are involved in racing the stats.
Else it would be totally absurd to demand any special level of crediting.

9) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 5764)
Posted 1 Nov 2008 by Angus
No. The stats sites can import and display all the stats they want.

The issue is that there is no need to compare stats from one project with any other projects. Maybe that makes the stats sites un-needed, but probably not. The good ones display stats from other non-Boinc projects as well and have no burning need to compare those. It's simply a convenient way to track your stats on all projects in one place.


No project is giving credit in isolation that allows their stats to be imported by the various stats sites. If a project operates in complete isolation then I agree, they can do what they like, but as soon as their stats start getting reported at the stats sites then they need to play fair in respect to the other projects. Nothing absurd in that, in fact quite reasonable.

That's totally absurd. There is no reason to think every group running a project on the BOINC platform has to meet some arbitrary credit award scheme.

These projects stand alone, the fact that they use BOINC is no more material than the fact that most PCs run on Windows. BOINC is freely availabe for anyone to use it the way they see fit. If they want to award 1000 times the credit of the other BOINC projects, so what? There is NOTHING that the megalomaniac David A can do to enforce his credit scheme.

I think it's a gross misrepresentation that Dr A wants everyone to do SETI, in fact, I believe, he doesn't want any single project giving more incentive to draw crunchers to a specific project to the detriment of other projects. That would be a failure of the BOINC concept. He is after the ideal, which doesn't exist, but he has every right to ask the projects to consider what they're doing taking into account how their actions impact other projects.

Fair enough I reckon.

BTW....love the optimised app. Thanks Milksop!

Live long and BOINC!

Paul.



10) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 5738)
Posted 1 Nov 2008 by Angus
That's totally absurd. There is no reason to think every group running a project on the BOINC platform has to meet some arbitrary credit award scheme.

These projects stand alone, the fact that they use BOINC is no more material than the fact that most PCs run on Windows. BOINC is freely availabe for anyone to use it the way they see fit. If they want to award 1000 times the credit of the other BOINC projects, so what? There is NOTHING that the megalomaniac David A can do to enforce his credit scheme.

I think it's a gross misrepresentation that Dr A wants everyone to do SETI, in fact, I believe, he doesn't want any single project giving more incentive to draw crunchers to a specific project to the detriment of other projects. That would be a failure of the BOINC concept. He is after the ideal, which doesn't exist, but he has every right to ask the projects to consider what they're doing taking into account how their actions impact other projects.

Fair enough I reckon.

BTW....love the optimised app. Thanks Milksop!

Live long and BOINC!

Paul.

11) Message boards : Number crunching : Short deadlines-High priority-suspend Milkyway (Message 5086)
Posted 28 Aug 2008 by Angus
Try setting your "Connect about every xx days" and "Additional work buffer" to very low values (mine are 0 and .05) until you've finished a longer WU. This way you should only get 1 WU at a time. But you do need to let one of the longer WUs finish to get the DCF in the ballpark.
Just in case you're not aware of it, the original (short) WU names start gs_371, the much longer ones gs_372 and the medium length ones gs_373.


I'm not going to diddle around with my preferences that work fine everywhere else to cater to one project that can't play nice with others. BOINC should adjust.

What are the run times for those three types (ballpark average)?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Short deadlines-High priority-suspend Milkyway (Message 5063)
Posted 27 Aug 2008 by Angus
Why are the estimated run times on these WUs so short (8:20) , when we all know they take hours to run?

I can't get this project to download less than 20 WU every time, and there is NO chance that that many will finish in time. If the run times were adjusted properly, the client would (should!) only download what it can finish by deadline.

13) Message boards : Number crunching : application v1.21/v1.22 errors/memory leaks/crashes here (Message 2136)
Posted 9 Mar 2008 by Angus
Now that gets me wondering how many 98's are still out there.


Hmm, well it seems to me that people still using 98 either
a) Don't use their computer that much/too used to it to switch, which makes it likely that they're not that into the internet-based projects that much either
b) Have a large amount of computers to look after but don't have time to upgrade them all (but the Win98 computer would be one of the older ones, so the loss wouldn't be that great)

So I don't think Milkyway would be using -that- many client PCs.. still good to support it though, of course.


OR simply have a stable cruncher with no reason to spend $$ to update to a more bloated MS operating system
14) Message boards : Number crunching : application v1.21/v1.22 errors/memory leaks/crashes here (Message 2106)
Posted 8 Mar 2008 by Angus
Good Job!

1.22 working fine here with Win2000Pro SP4
15) Message boards : Number crunching : application v1.21/v1.22 errors/memory leaks/crashes here (Message 2034)
Posted 7 Mar 2008 by Angus
ALL 1.21 WUs crash immediately on startup - Win2000 SP4, AMD XP, BOINC 5.10.20:
3/7/2008 4:56:24 AM|Milkyway@home|Starting task gs_280_1204841156_22984_0 using astronomy version 119
3/7/2008 4:56:27 AM|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Started upload of file gs_283_1204840568_22193_0_0
3/7/2008 4:56:32 AM|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file gs_283_1204840568_22193_0_0
3/7/2008 4:56:32 AM|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 931 bytes/sec
3/7/2008 5:04:29 AM|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_280_1204841156_22984_0 finished
3/7/2008 5:04:29 AM|Milkyway@home|Starting gs_281_1204853643_40674_0
3/7/2008 5:04:29 AM|Milkyway@home|[cpu_sched] Starting gs_281_1204853643_40674_0 (initial)
3/7/2008 5:04:29 AM|Milkyway@home|Starting task gs_281_1204853643_40674_0 using astronomy version 121
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result gs_281_1204853643_40674_0 (There are no child processes to wait for. (0x80) - exit code 128 (0x80))
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_281_1204853643_40674_0 finished
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|Output file gs_281_1204853643_40674_0_0 for task gs_281_1204853643_40674_0 absent
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|Starting gs_284_1204853635_40578_0
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|[cpu_sched] Starting gs_284_1204853635_40578_0 (initial)
3/7/2008 5:04:30 AM|Milkyway@home|Starting task gs_284_1204853635_40578_0 using astronomy version 121
3/7/2008 5:04:31 AM|Milkyway@home|Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
3/7/2008 5:04:31 AM|Milkyway@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result gs_284_1204853635_40578_0 (There are no child processes to wait for. (0x80) - exit code 128 (0x80))
3/7/2008 5:04:31 AM|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Started upload of file gs_280_1204841156_22984_0_0
3/7/2008 5:04:31 AM|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_284_1204853635_40578_0 finished
(and so on until the queue was empty.)


My queue was about half and half 1.19 and 1.21 All the 1.19 WUs finished fine.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't upload (Message 1815)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Angus
Been getting this since sometime yesterday

3/4/2008 6:28:55 AM|Milkyway@home|Fetching scheduler list
3/4/2008 6:29:01 AM|Milkyway@home|Master file download succeeded
3/4/2008 6:29:06 AM|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/4/2008 6:29:06 AM|Milkyway@home|Reporting 5 tasks
3/4/2008 6:29:11 AM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded
3/4/2008 6:29:11 AM|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
3/4/2008 6:29:11 AM|Milkyway@home|Deferring communication for 1 hr 0 min 0 sec
3/4/2008 6:29:11 AM|Milkyway@home|Reason: project is down
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Forum problem? (Message 453)
Posted 15 Nov 2007 by Angus
this shows just above the threads on eachj of the forums.

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