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Message 30584 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:08:48 UTC - in response to Message 30583.  

It is live now, I personally don't have any way to verify if it will work so please report any issues and include the BOINC version, Catalyst Version, Operating System, and what video card.

Edit: It will appear as version 19 and is only available for 32 bit Windows and uses version 0.19g SSE2 from Cluster Physik


Wish I had know about the 32-bit only before I reset all my milkyway settings on this computer. :/
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Message 30585 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:08:59 UTC - in response to Message 30568.  
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 16:11:29 UTC

Here is my system Info

9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 4]
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Processor: 256.00 KB cache
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: x64 Edition, (06.01.7100.00)
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Memory: 5.99 GB physical, 11.98 GB virtual
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Disk: 931.51 GB total, 709.82 GB free
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Local time is UTC -4 hours
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM Can't load library nvcuda.dll
9/11/2009 9:49:08 PM ATI GPU 0: RV770 (CAL version 1.4.283, 1024MB, 1064GFLOPS)

My card is a PowerColor HD 4850
I'm using the Driver Version 8.612.0.0 from Catalyst 9.5 with the 3 files renamed.
I haved tried Catalyst 9.6 & 9.8 and went back to 9.5 both times.
I now see Catalyst 9.9 is available, for this test I'm planning on using
my current driver but would change it if it would be of any benefit to the test.

My question is do the 3 files need to be renamed for the test app.
Also should I run my other projects during the test.


Boinc ver. 6.10.4

I tried to update and nothing happen then I supended my other projects and tried again still nothing,

9/12/2009 12:00:37 PM Milkyway@home update requested by user
9/12/2009 12:00:42 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
9/12/2009 12:00:42 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/12/2009 12:00:52 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 12:01:58 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 12:01:58 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/12/2009 12:02:08 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 12:03:09 PM rosetta@home suspended by user
9/12/2009 12:03:11 PM World Community Grid suspended by user
9/12/2009 12:03:11 PM climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mvbu_1961_2_1006361764_1 using hadam3p version 606
9/12/2009 12:03:11 PM climateprediction.net Restarting task hadsm3mh_kvf5_006318957_7 using hadsm3mh version 602
9/12/2009 12:03:11 PM climateprediction.net Restarting task hadam3p_mf75_1961_2_1006340859_3 using hadam3p version 606
9/12/2009 12:03:13 PM Docking@Home suspended by user
9/12/2009 12:03:15 PM The Lattice Project suspended by user
9/12/2009 12:03:17 PM climateprediction.net suspended by user
9/12/2009 12:03:20 PM lhcathome suspended by user
9/12/2009 12:03:25 PM Milkyway@home update requested by user
9/12/2009 12:03:26 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
9/12/2009 12:03:26 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/12/2009 12:03:31 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 12:04:37 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 12:04:37 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/12/2009 12:04:43 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 12:05:49 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 12:05:49 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
9/12/2009 12:05:54 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
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Message 30586 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:14:47 UTC - in response to Message 30583.  

Edit: It will appear as version 19 and is only available for 32 bit Windows and uses version 0.19g SSE2 from Cluster Physik


That's enough to PO the good humor man. Why wasn't this brought up earlier?
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Message 30587 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:17:54 UTC - in response to Message 30584.  
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 16:19:38 UTC

It is live now, I personally don't have any way to verify if it will work so please report any issues and include the BOINC version, Catalyst Version, Operating System, and what video card.

Edit: It will appear as version 19 and is only available for 32 bit Windows and uses version 0.19g SSE2 from Cluster Physik


Wish I had know about the 32-bit only before I reset all my milkyway settings on this computer. :/


ditto

I ask questions 5 hrs ago and when the test starts I get an answer.
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Message 30588 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:27:13 UTC

I guess I can put the app_info back into place then as I also run 64-bit.
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Message 30589 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:32:37 UTC - in response to Message 30583.  

It will appear as version 19 and is only available for 32 bit Windows


That's information that could have prevented me from wasting a lot of time.
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Message 30591 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:42:48 UTC

There were no server side issues deploying the 32 bit Windows application therefore the 64 bit Windows application has also been deployed.
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Message 30593 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:05:13 UTC - in response to Message 30591.  
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There were no server side issues deploying the 32 bit Windows application therefore the 64 bit Windows application has also been deployed.


I should be ready to go, detached and reattached. There are no files in the Milkyway project folder and it keeps giving me the error message I have no Cuda card. 6.10.4 did detect my ATI 4850

I have CPU turned off in preferences and GPU turned on.
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Message 30594 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:08:43 UTC
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 17:08:56 UTC

No joy here either. 6.10.4 asks for GPU work and gets nothing.
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Message 30596 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:12:38 UTC
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 17:14:31 UTC

This app looks like Gipsel's 0.19g ?

Well I'm testing Gipsel's 0.20 beta .... on a NT5.2 x64 with the new CATALYST 9.9 (incl. copy atical* amdcal* )


<core_client_version>6.10.3</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Running Milkyway@home ATI GPU application version 0.20 by Gipsel
allowing 3 concurrent WUs per GPU
setting minimum kernel frequency to 10 Hz
ignoring unknown input argument in app_info.xml: --device
ignoring unknown input argument in app_info.xml: 1
CPU: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2382 (8 cores/threads) 2.59999 GHz (436ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.4.403
Found 2 CAL devices

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 1024 MB local RAM (remote 64 MB cached + 2048 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 817 MHz, memory clock: 500 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue), wavefront size 64 threads
supporting double precision

Device 1: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 1024 MB local RAM (remote 64 MB cached + 2048 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 817 MHz, memory clock: 500 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue), wavefront size 64 threads
supporting double precision

2 WUs already running on GPU 0
3 WUs already running on GPU 1
Starting WU on GPU 0

main integral, 320 iterations
predicted runtime per iteration is 128 ms (100 ms are allowed), dividing each iteration in 2 parts
borders of the domains at 0 800 1600
Calculated about 8.22242e+012 floatingpoint ops on GPU, 1.23583e+008 on FPU. Approximate GPU time 70.375 seconds.

probability calculation (stars)
Calculated about 3.60304e+009 floatingpoint ops on FPU.

WU completed.
CPU time: 2.0625 seconds, GPU time: 70.375 seconds, wall clock time: 207.944 seconds, CPU frequency: 2.6 GHz

</stderr_txt>
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Message 30598 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 30596.  

I'm assuming the server should be downloading the .19G app or do I have to go install it myself?
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Message 30599 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 30596.  

This app looks like Gipsel's 0.19g ?

Well I'm testing Gipsel's 0.20 beta .... on a NT5.2 x64 with the new CATALYST 9.9 (incl. copy atical* amdcal* )


Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770)
GPU core clock: 817 MHz
GPU time: 70.375 seconds


That doesn't look very promising... a 3 stream Wu done in 70.3 sec. @817Mhz...
Seems that it cannot compensate the credit cut..


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Message 30600 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:27:45 UTC - in response to Message 30598.  
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 17:28:22 UTC

I'm assuming the server should be downloading the .19G app or do I have to go install it myself?


No. The client should download the app from the server. However, it would have been wise to turn on the boinc clients debug flags to see what's going on...or not..

You need to create or edit a cc_config.xml file in the boinc data directory containing the following ( at least)..

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<sched_ops>1</sched_ops>
<sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug>
<work_fetch_debug>1</work_fetch_
<rr_simulation>1</rr_simulation>
</log_flags>
</options>
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Message 30601 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:36:09 UTC - in response to Message 30600.  
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 17:37:37 UTC

Okay here is the log. I restarted BOINC and there is still nothing in the Milkway directory so it hasn't downloaded anything to work with.

9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 444342.86 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 444342.86 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project


For some reason it thinks the GPU is not idle (which it is)
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Message 30602 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:40:04 UTC

I tried again and after a detach all it wanted to send me was the CPU app.

I will stick with what works for the time being.
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Message 30603 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 30601.  
Last modified: 12 Sep 2009, 17:46:49 UTC

Okay here is the log. I restarted BOINC and there is still nothing in the Milkway directory so it hasn't downloaded anything to work with.

9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 444342.86 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 444342.86 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project


For some reason it thinks the GPU is not idle (which it is)


So it's pretty obvious that it doesn't request work for the ati at all and the server version is not the lastest (should be 611).

It could be that the ati work fetch is already in backoff mode since the server doesn't know about the ATIs at all.

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Message 30605 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 17:58:05 UTC

For what it's worth, here's a snippet from my logs:

9/12/2009 10:50:21 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
9/12/2009 10:50:21 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] request: 864000.86 sec CPU (864000.86 sec, 8) ATI GPU (0.00 sec, 0)
9/12/2009 10:50:21 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 10:50:21 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 10:50:21 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 864000.86 seconds; 8 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 10:50:21 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] backing off CPU 30 sec
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
9/12/2009 10:50:31 AM [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: RPC complete
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [rr_sim] rr_sim start: work_buf_total 864000.86 on_frac 0.998 active_frac 0.999
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] ------- start work fetch state -------
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] target work buffer: 0.86 + 864000.00 sec
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] CPU: shortfall 6912006.91 nidle 8.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM AQUA@home [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 480.00 (susp via GUI)
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 25.26 int 60.00 (comm deferred)
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] ATI GPU: shortfall 864000.86 nidle 1.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM AQUA@home [wfd] ATI GPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 264.64 int 960.00 (susp via GUI)
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] ATI GPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 311.72 int 480.00 (comm deferred)
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM AQUA@home [wfd] overall_debt 0
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] overall_debt 0
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] ------- end work fetch state -------
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] No project chosen for work fetch
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Message 30606 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 18:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 30601.  

Okay here is the log. I restarted BOINC and there is still nothing in the Milkway directory so it hasn't downloaded anything to work with.

9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 444342.86 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 11:31:50 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 11:31:55 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 444342.86 seconds; 0 idle CPUs
9/12/2009 11:33:01 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] ATI GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0 idle GPUs
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Server version 610
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Can't use NVIDIA GPU app for MilkyWay@Home: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: CPU jobs are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home Project requested delay of 61 seconds
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 1 sec
9/12/2009 11:33:11 AM Milkyway@home [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project


For some reason it thinks the GPU is not idle (which it is)


I had the same results. ATI HD4850, boinc x64 6.10.4, Not sure exactly which Catalyst, was a Windows 7 beta, but the driver is v8.612.
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Message 30608 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 18:07:14 UTC - in response to Message 30605.  

For what it's worth, here's a snippet from my logs:

9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 25.26 int 60.00 (comm deferred)
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM [wfd] ATI GPU: shortfall 864000.86 nidle 1.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 0.00 runnable 0.00
9/12/2009 10:50:37 AM Milkyway@home [wfd] ATI GPU: fetch share 0.00 debt 0.00 backoff dt 311.72 int 480.00 (comm deferred)


If i'm reading this right, then the work fetch is in back off mode (won't request work for ati cuz the server doesn't know about ATI work) so it only tries getting work for the CPU...

Does DA know about this experiment and is he watching this ?



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Message 30610 - Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 18:43:34 UTC

senks fine works on 6.6.38
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