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Message 37109 - Posted: 9 Mar 2010, 21:27:25 UTC - in response to Message 37108.  

Well, Everyone has his right to 15 mins. of disgrace...

And sending squick WU's to CPU and long WU's to GPU won't solve the problem. GPU systems present themselves as CPU only systems and voilĂ , there you go. Didn't GPU crunching took of for milkyway this way ?


well - any project opening the door for them cheaters has to face them - they simply cannot withstand to dismantle themselves..
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Message 37113 - Posted: 9 Mar 2010, 23:47:35 UTC - in response to Message 37109.  
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Well, Everyone has his right to 15 mins. of disgrace...

And sending squick WU's to CPU and long WU's to GPU won't solve the problem. GPU systems present themselves as CPU only systems and voilĂ , there you go. Didn't GPU crunching took of for milkyway this way ?


well - any project opening the door for them cheaters has to face them - they simply cannot withstand to dismantle themselves..

"The heart of a cheater
is empty and hollow" - Unknown

"i dont think its wrong to cheat on games that are just on your computer somtimes it makes the game more enjoyable but online games are different because it affects others" - darkmeca

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Message 37125 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 11:15:47 UTC

And here I thought we were supposed to be in it for the science. While having fun along the way.

This happened at Seti several years back. It may still be happening but I have not checked the forums (nor participated on them for about 2 years now). In the end all it does is shift the longer units onto others making it harder for us to get our share of the shorts that statistics dictate we should and causes some units to error out and never get done if they are aborted by enough hosts.

And it seems everyone here has a higher RAC then me. I can never keep up...

Never surrender and never give up. In the darkest hour there is always hope.

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Message 37126 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 11:53:22 UTC - in response to Message 37125.  
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And here I thought we were supposed to be in it for the science. While having fun along the way.

This happened at Seti several years back. It may still be happening but I have not checked the forums (nor participated on them for about 2 years now). In the end all it does is shift the longer units onto others making it harder for us to get our share of the shorts that statistics dictate we should and causes some units to error out and never get done if they are aborted by enough hosts.


If a Project doesn't have Fixed Credit I guarantee you there's Cheating going on, this only show's it can go on at a Fixed Credit Project too if the Project Dev's are Naive enough to think everybody will play Fairly if given a chance to Cheat ... And the reason it continues is because they know nothing will ever happen to them, they might get a warning from the Project but they'll just stop & go find some other Project they can get away with it at.
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Message 37144 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 18:41:04 UTC

Why GPU Force Tean went from about 5 million credits to 18 million per day?
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Message 37145 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 19:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 37144.  

Why GPU Force Tean went from about 5 million credits to 18 million per day?


a little bit of boinccmd and grep - pretty easy to weed out things you do not want to run..
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Message 37150 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 20:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 37145.  

It's because of such people that BOINC loses its fun side....
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Message 37158 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 21:53:27 UTC

GPU force rules...
and You can only watch how smart they are, and how many credits they can get daily....

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Message 37159 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 21:59:20 UTC - in response to Message 37158.  

GPU force rules...
and You can only watch how smart they are, and how many credits they can get daily....




Sorry to say, this demonstrates the trolls trying to taunt. Don't respond and they wither.
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Message 37160 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 22:09:32 UTC

I wouldnt be surprised if this has contributed to problems with the feeder. Just after I bring up my second 5970 :(

Personally I dont understand why making hosts hidden is an option. What important information is contained in that data?

Well anyway, lets hope when the feeder comes back the WUs are consistant.
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Message 37162 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 22:23:32 UTC

Friends--please stop sniping at each other.

This is not an issue of forcing any users out. Travis has been made aware of the issue and once he has finished addressing personal matters out-of-town, he will correct it.

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Message 37164 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 22:34:43 UTC

One quick/temp fix is to stop all work.
Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 37167 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 22:53:50 UTC - in response to Message 37164.  

One quick/temp fix is to stop all work.


that's a quirk - deleting some accounts would be a fix.
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Message 37168 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 22:56:58 UTC - in response to Message 37162.  

OK -- but does that mean the servers are offline until his return as well?

Friends--please stop sniping at each other.


This is not an issue of forcing any users out. Travis has been made aware of the issue and once he has finished addressing personal matters out-of-town, he will correct it.


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Message 37171 - Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 23:28:09 UTC

Hello,

I have talked to Travis, and milkway@home SHOULD already be giving credits based on the amount of work in a WU. He will check to make sure that this is the case soon.

We have no intention of shutting the servers down.

I just put some new jobs up; let me know how they go. :)

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Message 37174 - Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 0:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 37171.  

Im getting WU now, but they are ALL the short WUs...
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Message 37175 - Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 0:10:25 UTC

same at here, btw 200k results ready to send ?
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Message 37179 - Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 0:13:51 UTC - in response to Message 37175.  

I am blowing through these shorties in about 25 seconds each.

Of course they are all going to pending instead of validating, must be some problem in the validator.
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Message 37180 - Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 0:15:46 UTC - in response to Message 37175.  

same at here, btw 200k results ready to send ?

Could be showing what is left of the current run.

Hello,

I have talked to Travis, and milkway@home SHOULD already be giving credits based on the amount of work in a WU. He will check to make sure that this is the case soon.

We have no intention of shutting the servers down.

I just put some new jobs up; let me know how they go. :)

Cheers,
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So then it is either a glitch or the short wu have more work, therefore more credit. Right?
Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 37181 - Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 0:16:31 UTC

What are the names on the new work units?

I'm keeping an eye on the server, so far it looks like it is still trying to get through validating the previous searches. There were a lot of WUs out there, could take awhile.

If you see anything else strange, let me know.

-Matthew
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