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Send message Joined: 24 Dec 07 Posts: 1947 Credit: 240,884,648 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 20 Sep 08 Posts: 1391 Credit: 203,563,566 RAC: 0 |
I think it's the same for all of us. I've got some from a week ago as well. Don't drink water, that's the stuff that rusts pipes |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 08 Posts: 24 Credit: 250,053,699 RAC: 0 |
I have 180 of those and adding more every day..... What is going to happen to all these work units ?? |
Send message Joined: 18 Nov 07 Posts: 280 Credit: 2,442,757 RAC: 0 |
They should validate (or not) eventually. If you've ever crunched for Einstein@Home, you should be familiar with pending credit. They validate every WU, and since their deadlines are pretty long you can get unlucky and end up with WUs still pending credit from a month ago. It's just the way their system works, and no one complains about it over there; the situation should always be better at Milkyway@Home because the deadlines are much shorter, and they won't validate more WUs than they need to be safe (of course things are still in flux at the moment, but they should settle in the coming weeks). |
Send message Joined: 24 Feb 09 Posts: 620 Credit: 100,587,625 RAC: 0 |
Those who are or have been regular SETI Crunchers will recognise the issue, as mentioned above its a potential problem in all projects that depend upon a third party - ie a wingman - to validate. The pendings "queue" will grow until it reaches an undefined "equilibrium" of results going in pendings, and those going out matched by a wingman. With the mega cruncher and fast machines, pendings build very fast because the fast machines finish WUs very fast, and end up waiting for the slower cruncher (lets say as an example an old cpu machine running a cpu app) to throw its result in the ring. At Collatz pendings queues always lengthen after MW crunchers leave after a period there awaiting a MW server issue to be resolved, because a large number of fast machines are no longer there filling pendings, therefore the wait for validation lengthens. When SETI first introduced the Astropulse WU, much much longer than the traditional SETI WU, pendings of fast mega crunchers went through the roof. One of the fastest Crunchers hit 4.5 million credits waiting in pendings (some 2-4 months old) before it levelled out, and the rate of WUs going into pendings were matched by the rate of WUs going out having been validated. Difficult to say what the size of the pendings queue will be here, but it will be big for the mega cruncher, its a side effect of the Wingman system. C'est La Vie :) Regards Zy |
Send message Joined: 4 Oct 08 Posts: 1734 Credit: 64,228,409 RAC: 0 |
Over the last couple of days my pending queue has reduced considerably. So the servers seem now to be beginning to catch up. Go away, I was asleep |
Send message Joined: 24 Dec 07 Posts: 1947 Credit: 240,884,648 RAC: 0 |
Referring to my OP and the link within it, I'm talking about pending wu's that appear stuck in the system. Wingmen have returned results. The wu's are not marked as inconclusive. They are just stuck at waiting for validation since 7 April. |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Referring to my OP and the link within it, I'm talking about pending wu's that appear stuck in the system. Wingmen have returned results. The wu's are not marked as inconclusive. They are just stuck at waiting for validation since 7 April. Are these still happening? Can you link me any culprit WUs/Results? |
Send message Joined: 3 Nov 09 Posts: 10 Credit: 5,160,381 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 24 Dec 07 Posts: 1947 Credit: 240,884,648 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 20 Sep 08 Posts: 1391 Credit: 203,563,566 RAC: 0 |
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90380315 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90358713 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90560243 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90258864 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=89956987 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90372401 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90388189 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90539290 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90576280 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90563971 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90582195 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91287606 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91792021 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91883517 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91903492 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91912468 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91913472 Don't drink water, that's the stuff that rusts pipes |
Send message Joined: 24 Feb 09 Posts: 620 Credit: 100,587,625 RAC: 0 |
I did have about a dozen of them last time I looked a couple of days ago - for whatever reason only have one now: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90357637 They appeared all to center around 7 April onwards - when the hassle over the new Validator hit its peak, seems like some that completed 7 April or after got left behind in the switchover, and no wingman was automatically nominated to complete a quorum. Regards Zy |
Send message Joined: 27 Nov 09 Posts: 108 Credit: 430,760,953 RAC: 0 |
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90292184 http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90267486 Note "Database Error" message as well. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 647 Credit: 27,592,547 RAC: 0 |
I have 18 WUs sitting around with "validation inconclusive" resp. "waiting for validation" status on my i7: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=129945&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2 The time reported varies from 8 to 14 Apr 2010. Lovely greetings, Cori |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
I have 18 WUs sitting around with "validation inconclusive" resp. "waiting for validation" status on my i7: Yours all look fine as they all have others in progress that they'll be validated against as soon as those results are reported. What's weird about the other ones don't have any workunits in progress... I'm looking into this and I'll see why they aren't validating. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 647 Credit: 27,592,547 RAC: 0 |
Ah, fine... so that makes just 1 WU left on my list. *grin* See: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=91808162 Here me and my wingman are both waiting. ;-) Lovely greetings, Cori |
Send message Joined: 4 Oct 08 Posts: 1734 Credit: 64,228,409 RAC: 0 |
Here is my list waiting validation http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/pending.php Go away, I was asleep |
Send message Joined: 1 Mar 09 Posts: 56 Credit: 1,984,937,499 RAC: 0 |
Here is my list waiting validation ... No, that's not your pending list :-). It's actually the pending list of the person who happens to click it - provided that person is logged in. If not logged in, I imagine it would be a login screen. Hover your mouse over the link and you will see what I mean :-). Cheers, Gary. |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 |
If the wus were sent out to cpus first then to gpus for further validation, then not alot of pending would occur. Just a thought. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
Send message Joined: 8 Feb 08 Posts: 261 Credit: 104,050,322 RAC: 0 |
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=90222621 name de_s222_3s_13_10136_1270442638 application MilkyWay@Home created 5 Apr 2010 4:43:58 UTC minimum quorum 3 initial replication 6 max # of error/total/success tasks 3, 6, 6 |
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