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Message 44879 - Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 7:57:06 UTC

I've updated the separation application to 0.50 for Windows, Linux x86/x86_64/PPC, and OS X x86_64/PPC. I've also added the Nvidia OpenCL application, but I'm not sure if the scheduler's been updated to automatically send it out. I also haven't yet removed the old CUDA one.

This should fix the crashing of 17_3s workunits and a few other things.
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Message 44888 - Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 17:24:32 UTC

Good evening,

Thank you for your works of development applications ...

No 64-bit, right now?

Sincerely,
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Message 44891 - Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 17:38:17 UTC
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Is my file app_info is good now?

<app_info>
<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>milkyway_0.50_windows_intelx86__sse2.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>50</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>milkyway_0.50_windows_intelx86__sse2.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>milkyway_nbody</name>
<user_friendly_name>MilkyWay@Home nbody Simulation</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>milkyway_nbody_0.21_windows_x86_64__sse2.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway_nbody</app_name>
<version_num>21</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>milkyway_nbody_0.21_windows_x86_64__sse2.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>milkyway</name>
<user_friendly_name>Milkyway@home Separation</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>milkyway_0.50_windows_intelx86__cuda_opencl.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>


<app_version>
<app_name>milkyway</app_name>
<version_num>50</version_num>
<plan_class>cuda_opencl</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<flops>1.0e11</flops>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>milkyway_0.50_windows_intelx86__cuda_opencl.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

</app_info>
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Message 44894 - Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 17:58:15 UTC - in response to Message 44888.  
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No 64-bit, right now?
Not for windows. I need to try again some time to get the 64 bit BOINC libraries built. Last time I tried it failed miserably.

A 32bit Linux OpenCL one is also waiting on me getting around to a 32 bit install on actual hardware.
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Message 44895 - Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 17:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 44891.  

Is my file app_info is good now?
It looks about right but you'd have to try it.
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Message 44902 - Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 0:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 44879.  

I forgot to actually mark the CUDA one as deprecated; it seems to be sending out the OpenCL one now.
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Message 44906 - Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 2:35:15 UTC - in response to Message 44879.  

Today I've discovered that clang defaults to using SSE/SSE2 even on 32 bit x86 systems, so all the non-SSE2 Linux systems were failing. I've rebuilt it as 0.51 which should fix it there.
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Message 44911 - Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 7:28:28 UTC

Hi,

all MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
ending with computing errors!



269173448 202929446 11 Dec 2010 4:45:14 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 4.12 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269173447 202890185 11 Dec 2010 4:45:14 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269173433 202945200 11 Dec 2010 4:45:14 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 7.13 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269129849 202911677 11 Dec 2010 3:27:21 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 14.32 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269128029 202913052 11 Dec 2010 3:23:57 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269123564 202909920 11 Dec 2010 3:15:52 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269122322 202899717 11 Dec 2010 3:13:36 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 1.05 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269121095 202908141 11 Dec 2010 3:11:21 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269116794 202893782 11 Dec 2010 3:03:48 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269114895 202903334 11 Dec 2010 3:00:24 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269110642 202900528 11 Dec 2010 2:52:43 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 2.09 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269105235 202896636 11 Dec 2010 2:43:02 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269103950 202895367 11 Dec 2010 2:40:47 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269098981 202891775 11 Dec 2010 2:31:50 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269094719 202877256 11 Dec 2010 2:24:12 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269092894 202887101 11 Dec 2010 2:20:48 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269088475 202884167 11 Dec 2010 2:13:07 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 5.18 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269082775 202879986 11 Dec 2010 2:03:03 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269082774 202879985 11 Dec 2010 2:03:03 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269077450 202876092 11 Dec 2010 1:53:50 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 3.10 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)

269072105 202872209 11 Dec 2010 1:44:18 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269070911 202871051 11 Dec 2010 1:42:08 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269068344 202869217 11 Dec 2010 1:37:38 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269065842 202867416 11 Dec 2010 1:33:14 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 4.18 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269063906 202866260 11 Dec 2010 1:29:50 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269063891 202866245 11 Dec 2010 1:29:50 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269063274 202865639 11 Dec 2010 1:28:42 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 3.10 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269059356 202791600 11 Dec 2010 1:21:48 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269056923 202859791 11 Dec 2010 1:17:18 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 1.05 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269052475 202857493 11 Dec 2010 1:09:14 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 1.05 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269051243 202842675 11 Dec 2010 1:06:58 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 3.07 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269046629 202852894 11 Dec 2010 0:58:31 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 7.16 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269042005 202849490 11 Dec 2010 0:49:49 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 4.10 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269037548 202846213 11 Dec 2010 0:41:45 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 7.13 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269036956 202845623 11 Dec 2010 0:40:37 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 4.09 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269030898 202838063 11 Dec 2010 0:29:26 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 4.09 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269029067 202839288 11 Dec 2010 0:26:02 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 15.23 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269022899 202834587 11 Dec 2010 0:14:56 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 11.25 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269018696 202831028 11 Dec 2010 0:07:12 UTC 11 Dec 2010 7:15:10 UTC Error while computing 13,597.32 0.00 0.00 --- MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)

KInd regards,
Ron
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Message 44923 - Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 16:08:35 UTC - in response to Message 44911.  

As I cannot see your machines I cannot tell what driver version you are running, best bet is to upgrade to the latest release and see if that fixes the problem.
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Message 44926 - Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 17:44:43 UTC

Hi,

after install of a new NVIDIA driver

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.99-whql-driver.html

it is working fine now


269668142 203300369 11 Dec 2010 17:25:23 UTC 11 Dec 2010 17:37:21 UTC Completed and validated 687.46 34.40 0.24 213.76 MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)
269668134 203300361 11 Dec 2010 17:25:23 UTC 11 Dec 2010 17:36:54 UTC Completed and validated 681.33 35.30 0.25 213.76 MilkyWay@Home v0.50 (cuda_opencl)

Thanks to Matt and Arkayn.

Kind regards,
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Message 44937 - Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 21:08:54 UTC - in response to Message 44926.  

Hi,

after install of a new NVIDIA driver

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.99-whql-driver.html

it is working fine now
It looks like by default the BOINC scheduler only requires a really old Nvidia driver version to send the OpenCL one, so that needs to be fixed.
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Message 45476 - Posted: 10 Jan 2011, 14:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 44937.  

Will a MilkyWay@Home de_seperation... task run using the MW v0.50 (cuda_opencl) app on a GTX260-216, Win x64, NVidia 197.45 driver?
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Message 45477 - Posted: 10 Jan 2011, 16:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 45476.  

Will a MilkyWay@Home de_seperation... task run using the MW v0.50 (cuda_opencl) app on a GTX260-216, Win x64, NVidia 197.45 driver?
You'll need to update the driver.
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Message 45478 - Posted: 10 Jan 2011, 17:04:35 UTC - in response to Message 45477.  
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Are you aware that on XP, Win 2000 - 2003 servers the 260.xx drivers do not have the option to run at prefer maximum performance in NVidia control panel, Power management mode. Many cards, by default, drop their freq to the minimum? Even for Fermi cards Performance is not present in Global settings and while it is present in Program Settings, it is stuck at adaptive; cant be changed to Prefer Maximum Performance.

Would a GTX470 work with 260.99 with the app?

Good luck,
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Message 45494 - Posted: 11 Jan 2011, 7:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 45478.  

The GTX470 seems to have worked, going by credit totals, but the tasks don't hang around long online.
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Message 45495 - Posted: 11 Jan 2011, 12:43:21 UTC

This is becoming frustrating... Call me the guy from the ICE AGE but i'm not understanding a thing of what we are doing here... The process of it all is beyond me... Can someone explain to me in short, concise, "English" in what way is my PC contributing BOINC via Milkyway server (Whatever) in finding extraterrestrials...

it's tough i know... to have someone as ignorant as me but... just someone humor me with an explanation... I'll be grateful for life!
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Message 45496 - Posted: 11 Jan 2011, 12:44:49 UTC - in response to Message 45495.  

This is becoming frustrating... Call me the guy from the ICE AGE but i'm not understanding a thing of what we are doing here... The process of it all is beyond me... Can someone explain to me in short, concise, "English" in what way is my PC contributing BOINC via Milkyway server (Whatever) in finding extraterrestrials...

it's tough i know... to have someone as ignorant as me but... just someone humor me with an explanation... I'll be grateful for life!

Mapping the Milkyway, not searching for aliens.
Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 45497 - Posted: 11 Jan 2011, 16:00:43 UTC - in response to Message 45496.  

This is becoming frustrating... Call me the guy from the ICE AGE but i'm not understanding a thing of what we are doing here... The process of it all is beyond me... Can someone explain to me in short, concise, "English" in what way is my PC contributing BOINC via Milkyway server (Whatever) in finding extraterrestrials...

it's tough i know... to have someone as ignorant as me but... just someone humor me with an explanation... I'll be grateful for life!

Mapping the Milkyway, not searching for aliens.
It's not really mapping the Milkyway. It uses data from a project which is trying to map the entire sky, but the real point is to find a model for the Milkyway's potential, in particular the halo. Knowing the mass distribution of the galaxy would be useful in solving the dark matter problem.
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Message 45519 - Posted: 12 Jan 2011, 11:45:36 UTC - in response to Message 45497.  

the real point is to find a model for the Milkyway's potential


By potential I take it you mean mass and velocity,
and MVmilkyway - SumMiVi = dark matter mass X V (i for individual stars, dust, planets, moons...)?
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Message 45541 - Posted: 13 Jan 2011, 5:44:39 UTC - in response to Message 45495.  
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This is becoming frustrating... Call me the guy from the ICE AGE but i'm not understanding a thing of what we are doing here... The process of it all is beyond me... Can someone explain to me in short, concise, "English" in what way is my PC contributing BOINC via Milkyway server (Whatever) in finding extraterrestrials...

it's tough i know... to have someone as ignorant as me but... just someone humour me with an explanation... I'll be grateful for life!


G'Day Niburujoe,

BOINC is a platform through which many projects can be launched all doing different things.

SETI also uses the BOINC platform (the first project to do so) and it's purpose is to find signs of Alien life.

It is just one of a number of Astronomy projects, some others being:-

Einstein_____(searches for Pulsars, gravity waves and such)
Cosmology____(trying to understand the universe (I think))
MilkyWay_____(as Matt said trying to get a better idea how big and massive
_____________ Milkyway really is)
Orbit________(tracking space junk including asteroids and meteors)
Constellation____(various space and science projects)

plus a few others.

So as you can see you wont find Aliens here at Milkyway but you may help us find out more about the Galaxy in which we live.

Conan.
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