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Message 47898 - Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 15:27:07 UTC - in response to Message 47891.  

It's possible the latter was due to my debt levels getting messed up. They looked off when I checked earlier today, so I zeroed them out in client_state.xml and am waiting to see what happens after the next outage.

It'll do the same thing because backup projects aren't fully supported in 6.10.xx. Hate to sound like a broken record... :)

They aren't? The DL only when other projects are out of work portion is working. What version do I need to get full support?

Full support is in the 6.12.xx series. It will download 1 task per idle resource, crunch it and request another if needed.

Here's the link. I'm using 6.12.22 on everything. The preferences have changed. set "While processor usage is less then" to 0 for behavior similar to earlier BOINC versions:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
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Message 47921 - Posted: 16 Apr 2011, 11:34:38 UTC

I had always been asking for a smarter way of distributing the WUs (coupling allowed amount of WUs per host to its average turnaround time). However, the current state seems prety nice. The recent change in the ATI app (avoiding file I/O) seems to have made the server much more stable, so project downtimes seem greatly reduced.

If I can get WUs reliably, I don't need a much larger cache.

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Message 47926 - Posted: 16 Apr 2011, 17:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 47898.  

[Here's the link. I'm using 6.12.22 on everything. The preferences have changed. set "While processor usage is less then" to 0 for behavior similar to earlier BOINC versions:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php


Thanks. I've got it installed on my main box and it seems to be behaving fairly well, although until MW glitches again and I run out of work I can't test the new features I care about. I'm going to hold off a bit on installing it elsewhere since my CPU only boxes don't have any trouble getting several days of work in normal circumstances.

I noticed some UI changes, is there anywhere I can find a consolidated list of any other major changes since 6.10.x; or do I need to wade through the entire 6.11/12 thread in the boinc dev forum?
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Message 47927 - Posted: 16 Apr 2011, 17:38:47 UTC - in response to Message 47926.  
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I noticed some UI changes, is there anywhere I can find a consolidated list of any other major changes since 6.10.x; or do I need to wade through the entire 6.11/12 thread in the boinc dev forum?


sorry, didn't read it well. Dont know about such a list
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Message 47928 - Posted: 16 Apr 2011, 20:08:02 UTC - in response to Message 47926.  

I noticed some UI changes, is there anywhere I can find a consolidated list of any other major changes since 6.10.x; or do I need to wade through the entire 6.11/12 thread in the boinc dev forum?

Here's the only change log I know of and there are many changes:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=5883
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Message 47933 - Posted: 16 Apr 2011, 21:14:32 UTC

There's a good thread here: http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=2231#20874
He tacs on the end of it new updates as they come through, dont be distracted by the Title, They are all there, latest always at the bottom of the thread.

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Message 48638 - Posted: 9 May 2011, 16:18:40 UTC
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I've seen a way that some other BOINC projects use to reduce the load on their servers. Offer some workunits that include scripts that run the same application program multiple times, each with a different set of starting point files, but making sure that at least the largest input file is shared between all of the starting point sets. Do your workunits come in varieties sharing enough of the largest files that it's worth trying?

Some with rather short runtimes for their application program use this as their only way of providing checkpoints.
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Message 48652 - Posted: 9 May 2011, 20:46:41 UTC

As far as I understand MW is not using files at all for WU download (just a parameter set) and result upload ("just" a few numbers). Seems like this change really helped the server.

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Message 48657 - Posted: 9 May 2011, 21:50:02 UTC - in response to Message 48652.  
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Sorry If I gave you that impression last week. The Star and parameter sets for tasks are still sent as download files. They're just so small they're hard to catch most of the time on the transfer tab unless you're looking for them, especially the paramter set files.

They do not use output upload files any longer. The task outcome is now incorporated into the [cdata] part of the scheduler request which is reporting the task in question.
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Message 48663 - Posted: 9 May 2011, 23:57:08 UTC
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For that situation, you might want to consider another method I've seen. Download the application program only once, then store a copy in a place where multiple workunits can use it, until either that copy is damaged, or another version is needed.

One possible use is simply to copy the saved copy into each slot that uses it.
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Message 48688 - Posted: 10 May 2011, 20:24:05 UTC - in response to Message 48663.  

For that situation, you might want to consider another method I've seen. Download the application program only once, then store a copy in a place where multiple workunits can use it, until either that copy is damaged, or another version is needed.

One possible use is simply to copy the saved copy into each slot that uses it.


Sorry if I miss something, but isn't that how BOINC works by default?

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Message 48692 - Posted: 11 May 2011, 0:42:03 UTC - in response to Message 48688.  

I've seen several posts saying that some BOINC sites have set it up that way and some haven't. Nothing clear on whether some of the newer versions of the BOINC server software make it so easy you're likely to do it without noticing, though.
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Message 48702 - Posted: 11 May 2011, 13:20:43 UTC

As long as I can remember BOINC has copied the exe and WU to a separate slot for execution. You can see them as subdirectories (0,1,2,3,4,etc) under your data directory BOINC/slots.
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Message 48761 - Posted: 14 May 2011, 8:22:38 UTC

Hi

i only get 2 WU - 1/GPU (hd 5970), instead of the number you talked about.

I set 10 days of work.
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Message 48762 - Posted: 14 May 2011, 9:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 48761.  
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Hi

i only get 2 WU - 1/GPU (hd 5970), instead of the number you talked about.

I set 10 days of work.


Do you get this message;
14-5-2011 11:42:04 Milkyway@home Message from server: This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress

If not: you crunch faster than Boincmanager can fill up your cache!
I still got my 12 tasks, so this must be the case for the whole community!
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Message 48764 - Posted: 14 May 2011, 14:01:57 UTC - in response to Message 48762.  

in fact some few weeks ago (maybe 5 o 6) yes, i had the message 'Milkyway@home Message from server: This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress'

but not now. the calculation takes 1min15/wu, in average.
And i get only 2 wu instead 48 like before.
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Message 48766 - Posted: 14 May 2011, 18:05:24 UTC - in response to Message 48761.  
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Hi

i only get 2 WU - 1/GPU (hd 5970), instead of the number you talked about.

I set 10 days of work.


Something is wrong. I have 2 HD 5870s and I get 24 WUs.
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Message 48776 - Posted: 15 May 2011, 9:00:03 UTC - in response to Message 48766.  

.... Something is wrong. I have 2 HD 5870s and I get 24 WUs.


24 is correct - the limit is 12 per GPU

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Message 48779 - Posted: 15 May 2011, 10:53:00 UTC

Have you set MW as a backup project (ressource share = 0)? In this case it would be intentional in newer BOINC versions to only get 1 WU per computing ressource.

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