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Message 56939 - Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 23:34:21 UTC
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I have a nbody running with a 6 Hour completion of 1% of total. At this rate it will take 600 Hrs to finish ... the deadline is 1/29/2013.

I could set "get no new tasks" and in about 5 min's the other 3 WU's will finish and the nbody will have 4 CPU's to run in.

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If it errors out then I wont be doing any work.

Just how "stable" is nbody (today) ... should I let it use its full 4 CPU's or just let it run as-is and expect it to fail .... whenever?

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<edit> I set BOINC to 12.5% and reset to allow new tasks. This should allow 1 WU (1 CPU ) to run ... since the one running now uses 4 cpu's this should "fill" my -normal- use 50% of cpu's boinc quote. Once it finishes (or errors out) Boinc will allow 1 more WU "in". if it is nbody ... it'll run on 4 cpu's ... If its NOT nbody it will share 4 cpu's (using ~25% each) ... that's my guess.

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Message 56946 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 12:49:09 UTC - in response to Message 56939.  

I have a nbody running with a 6 Hour completion of 1% of total. At this rate it will take 600 Hrs to finish ... the deadline is 1/29/2013.

I could set "get no new tasks" and in about 5 min's the other 3 WU's will finish and the nbody will have 4 CPU's to run in.

BUT

If it errors out then I wont be doing any work.

Just how "stable" is nbody (today) ... should I let it use its full 4 CPU's or just let it run as-is and expect it to fail .... whenever?

Ed F

<edit> I set BOINC to 12.5% and reset to allow new tasks. This should allow 1 WU (1 CPU ) to run ... since the one running now uses 4 cpu's this should "fill" my -normal- use 50% of cpu's boinc quote. Once it finishes (or errors out) Boinc will allow 1 more WU "in". if it is nbody ... it'll run on 4 cpu's ... If its NOT nbody it will share 4 cpu's (using ~25% each) ... that's my guess.

Ed F


PLEASE let us know if this works for you!!! My understanding is that it won't, but it could I guess. My understanding, I am just a cruncher like you, is that when you limit the cpu's, by the 12.5% in your case, then that is ALL Boinc will use. Using more goes outside the settings and that is not permitted, is my understanding. How I understand it works is that you are crunching along using all of your cpu's and in comes a unit that can use more than one core, so it uses as many cores as it wants, after all 100% are available and either the units on the other cores get paused or they don't start if they are not yet running. Now it could work like you are saying, I don't know for sure, so PLEASE come back and tell us how it is REALLY doing!
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Message 56950 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 16:52:03 UTC - in response to Message 56946.  
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PLEASE let us know if this works for you!!! My understanding is that it won't, but it could I guess. My understanding, I am just a cruncher like you, is that when you limit the cpu's, by the 12.5% in your case, then that is ALL Boinc will use. Using more goes outside the settings and that is not permitted, is my understanding. How I understand it works is that you are crunching along using all of your cpu's and in comes a unit that can use more than one core, so it uses as many cores as it wants, after all 100% are available and either the units on the other cores get paused or they don't start if they are not yet running. Now it could work like you are saying, I don't know for sure, so PLEASE come back and tell us how it is REALLY doing!


Yes it works just fine ( with BOINC 6.12.34). since my last post the WU has 23:24:00 elapsed time -6.74% finished - and 69:20:00 cpu time (a ratio of about 3:1 - remember the first 6 hours were run with 3 non-nbody WU's competing with it), Boinc has NOT scheduled any more WU's 'cause it's set to 12.5% BUT the 1 WU allowed by bounc (the nbody filling the 12.5% slot) is merrily running at at 46% usage according to task manager.

It seems to me that MT works just fine ( except it only uses 4 cpu's and not 8) and that bounc 6.12.34 does not know how schedule them.

When this one finishes (in 14 days) or errors out I have de-selected nbody 'till more info is available about it and boinc.

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Message 56951 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 18:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 56950.  

I have a screen shot from task manager showing 4 seti@home WU's running on CPU's 0,2,4,and 6 and 1 milkeyway@home WU (the nbody one) running on CPU's 1,3,5,and 7.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42596478/BOINC%20with%20MW%40H%20and%20S%40H%20running.jpg

I have separate copies of boinc running out of different dir's for s@h and m@h.

As you can see (if i did the URL correctly) the 4 s@h WU's are each consuming 100% of 4 CPU's while the MT nbody WU is consuming MOST of the 4 CPU's.


Fun huh!!

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Message 56952 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 19:14:31 UTC

I like the way that some of your results (and mine, now I come to look at them) have an infinite improbability.

Now, if we could use those in a drive, we could go and explore the Milky Way for ourselves, instead of just using telescopes...
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Message 56954 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 16:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 56952.  

Well, it errored out after 40+ hours giving a reported time of 0.00 and now affigned to a new person (sorry) see WU 291619119.

It errored with disk exceeded ... whatever that means ... i expect it did not exceed the 40Gb boinc allows ... who knows.

so now I'b running 1 "normal" w@h ' till I UP boinc to 50%

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