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Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 647 Credit: 27,592,547 RAC: 0 |
Well said Gavin and Brian *Thumbs up* :-))) Lovely greetings, Cori |
Send message Joined: 6 Apr 08 Posts: 2018 Credit: 100,142,856 RAC: 0 |
Agreed 100% As far as I know (which isn't much) this is run by 2 grad students doing research for their papers. It's done within the university and I haven't heard any suggestions that the NSF was funding anything. Depending on the results that the project comes up with it might (HOPEFULLY) turn into a significant research project that the NSF at a future time might want to explore. Interesting. I've had a look around the MW web pages and (please correct me if I am wrong) I note that this project doesn't appear to be about science. It doesn't seem to be about to "Help discover the structures in the Milky Way galaxy" as stated on the MW web page banner. However, it does clearly state that "Milkyway@home ... This particular project is being developed to better understand the power of volunteer computer resources." That's good enough for me to continue my support in the hope that the science will follow. |
Send message Joined: 22 Nov 07 Posts: 285 Credit: 1,076,786,368 RAC: 0 |
And someone please explain to me what does the resumes of the project scientists or admins, or what part of the globe the project is run, or how it receives it funds in ANY WAY related to this thread! Maybe I am just a bit slow, but I see no relevance of this and the status of the new application. |
Send message Joined: 16 Jan 08 Posts: 98 Credit: 1,371,299 RAC: 0 |
And someone please explain to me what does the resumes of the project scientists or admins, or what part of the globe the project is run, or how it receives it funds in ANY WAY related to this thread! No relation. But threads always seem to wander off topic. But if you really want some kind of relation between the two, new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? It's a stretch but there you go. Lol. :) Never surrender and never give up. In the darkest hour there is always hope. |
Send message Joined: 1 Oct 08 Posts: 106 Credit: 24,162,445 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? I want an acknowledgement, too! *LOL* |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Travis wrote:Actually to correct some misinformation here. The RPI computer science department as a whole does not run this project. There is myself, Nate, dave, and our 4 advisors (1 professor in the physics dept, and 3 in the cs dept). Our advisors have quite a few other projects they're working on (and I myself have another one or two). Either way, the bulk of the work on this project is done by myself, dave and nate. 3 people, not 440. We also have classes and our degree requirements to attend to. This is the nature of graduate level research. These have been posted various times in the papers we've published, which have been posted on our webpage. I think you can find all of them here: http://wcl.cs.rpi.edu/bib/Keyword/SCIENTIFIC-COMPUTING.html mainly: Travis Desell, Boleslaw Szymanski, and Carlos A. Varela. An Asynchronous Hybrid Genetic-Simplex Search for Modeling the Milky Way Galaxy using Volunteer Computing. In Genetic and Evolutionary Computation Conference (GECCO 2008), Atlanta, Georgia, pages 921-928, July 2008. Keyword(s): astroinformatics, grid computing, scientific computing. Travis Desell, Boleslaw Szymanski, and Carlos A. Varela. Asynchronous Genetic Search for Scientific Modeling on Large-Scale Heterogeneous Environments. In Proceedings of the 17th International Heterogeneity in Computing Workshop (HCW/IPDPS'08), Miami, FL, pages 12pp, April 2008. IEEE. Keyword(s): scientific computing, middleware, grid computing. Travis Desell, Nathan Cole, Malik Magdon-Ismail, Heidi Newberg, Boleslaw Szymanski, and Carlos A. Varela. Distributed and Generic Maximum Likelihood Evaluation. In 3rd IEEE International Conference on e-Science and Grid Computing (eScience2007), Bangalore, India, pages 337-344, December 2007. Note: Best paper (finalist) award. Keyword(s): scientific computing, grid computing, supercomputing, internet computing, scientific computing, middleware, grid computing. Boleslaw Szymanski, Travis Desell, and Carlos A. Varela. The Effect of Heterogeneity on Asynchronous Panmictic Genetic Search. In Proc. of the Seventh International Conference on Parallel Processing and Applied Mathematics (PPAM'2007), LNCS, Gdansk, Poland, September 2007. Keyword(s): scientific computing. Nathan Cole, Heidi Newberg, Malik Magdon-Ismail, Travis Desell, Kristopher Dawsey, Warren Hayashi, Jonathan Purnell, Boleslaw Szymanski, Carlos A. Varela, Benjamin Willett, and James Wisniewski. Maximum Likelihood Fitting of Tidal Streams with Application to the Sagittarius Dwarf Tidal Tails. Astrophysical Journal, 683:750-766, 2008. Keyword(s): astroinformatics, grid computing, scientific computing. *edit* However you're probably right that we should have all that information on the home page. I'll email our group to see what my advisors think about that. |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Agreed 100% As far as I know (which isn't much) this is run by 2 grad students doing research for their papers. It's done within the university and I haven't heard any suggestions that the NSF was funding anything. Depending on the results that the project comes up with it might (HOPEFULLY) turn into a significant research project that the NSF at a future time might want to explore. Actually this project has been used for science (it seems you're not counting computer science as science). I was pretty sure we posted our most recent publication to the astrophysical journal (if not, see the above post). |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? Maybe you should read the acknowledgements section in our HCW paper :P http://wcl.cs.rpi.edu/papers/desell-ags-hcw-2008.pdf |
Send message Joined: 16 Jan 08 Posts: 98 Credit: 1,371,299 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? Please be aware that my comment (which is not complete in this quote) was as a joke regarding how acknowledgments was related to the status of the new app since the author of the thread was commenting on how the thread had changed topic. I'm pretty sure Milksop was also being humorous... Never surrender and never give up. In the darkest hour there is always hope. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? My profile pics deserve an honorable mention. me@rescam.org |
Send message Joined: 6 Apr 08 Posts: 2018 Credit: 100,142,856 RAC: 0 |
Agreed 100% As far as I know (which isn't much) this is run by 2 grad students doing research for their papers. It's done within the university and I haven't heard any suggestions that the NSF was funding anything. Depending on the results that the project comes up with it might (HOPEFULLY) turn into a significant research project that the NSF at a future time might want to explore. Yes, you're quite right, computer science is a science and, as I say, is a good enough basis for my supporting MW. |
Send message Joined: 6 Apr 08 Posts: 2018 Credit: 100,142,856 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? It's your profile pics that confuse me about what is science ;) |
Send message Joined: 10 Aug 08 Posts: 218 Credit: 41,846,854 RAC: 0 |
My profile pics deserve an honorable mention. That depends on if they are real or CGI ;) |
Send message Joined: 3 Aug 08 Posts: 89 Credit: 255,801 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 7 Jul 08 Posts: 47 Credit: 13,629,944 RAC: 0 |
You demanded that they "explicitly post" their names. The term "eigenstate" is a quantum mechanical term, and thus likely a pseudonym chosen to hide your real name. It thus appears that you did not "explicitly post" even a part of your own name, while disapprovingly demanding otherwise of them. --Bill |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? I've turned it into a science. :D That depends on if they are real or CGI ;) Well they are real pics of a real person who works in an industry using CGI. me@rescam.org |
Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 163 Credit: 3,876,869 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? ...And using CGI Battlestars. ;) Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Send message Joined: 19 Nov 07 Posts: 29 Credit: 3,353,124 RAC: 0 |
And someone please explain to me what does the resumes of the project scientists or admins, or what part of the globe the project is run, or how it receives it funds in ANY WAY related to this thread! Agreed. I used to admin an (arguably) useful project before having written a resume or finished high school, so what? Please use "Reply" or "Quote" buttons on posts, instead of "reply to this thread". Keep the posts linked together ("X is a reply to Y"). |
Send message Joined: 16 Jan 08 Posts: 98 Credit: 1,371,299 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? <------- Like this one? Never surrender and never give up. In the darkest hour there is always hope. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 |
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed? Not on all of them. me@rescam.org |
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