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Message 6973 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 22:45:24 UTC

Maybe the MW team should check out the stats on this page, specifically the 'Hosts by OS' graph at the bottom. Windows 81%, Linux 15%, Mac 3%, Other .2%.
http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=milkyway&view=hosts
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Message 6978 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:03:40 UTC - in response to Message 6973.  

Maybe the MW team should check out the stats on this page, specifically the 'Hosts by OS' graph at the bottom. Windows 81%, Linux 15%, Mac 3%, Other .2%.
http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=milkyway&view=hosts



If you check the stats carefully you will see more strange things ...example ,a simple quad q6600 (Windows) with 82.000 credits per day !!

Or much better a dual core system with windows has 568.000 credits per day !!!

NO FUCKING WAY !!!!!
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Message 6983 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:12:33 UTC - in response to Message 6978.  

Maybe the MW team should check out the stats on this page, specifically the 'Hosts by OS' graph at the bottom. Windows 81%, Linux 15%, Mac 3%, Other .2%.
http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=milkyway&view=hosts


If you check the stats carefully you will see more strange things ...example ,a simple quad q6600 (Windows) with 82.000 credits per day !!

Or much better a dual core system with windows has 568.000 credits per day !!!

NO WAY !!!!!


Yes there are many oddities.

(I can't say if this is out of place) but a 32(64) core server is getting 1.6 million credits/day. Is that correct?

http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39288
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Message 6985 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:23:58 UTC

Well i found a much better thing:

Account created : 24 Nov 2008 12:11:46 UTC
CPU Type: dual core with Windows XP

Results:
2008-11-24 20,982
2008-11-25 49,419
2008-11-26 39,328
2008-11-27 18,008

2008-11-28 568,910 ---<<<<<

A dual core system has made in 5 days Total Credit 696,646

Links : Account ID --> http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39368

Boincstats Link for this account --> http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39368


569.910 credits in a single day ??? and from a dual system??

NO FUCKING WAY
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Message 6989 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:35:32 UTC

The fastest credit/day units the user is n/a.
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Message 6990 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 6985.  

Well i found a much better thing:

Account created : 24 Nov 2008 12:11:46 UTC
CPU Type: dual core with Windows XP

Results:
2008-11-24 20,982
2008-11-25 49,419
2008-11-26 39,328
2008-11-27 18,008

2008-11-28 568,910 ---<<<<<

A dual core system has made in 5 days Total Credit 696,646

Links : Account ID --> http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39368

Boincstats Link for this account --> http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39368


569.910 credits in a single day ??? and from a dual system??

NO FUCKING WAY



This is really weird. If someone has found a way to somehow slam our server and get more work than they should.. while reporting bogus results that might explain some of the server problems we've been having.

Going to look into this.
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Message 6992 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:43:09 UTC - in response to Message 6985.  

Well i found a much better thing:

Account created : 24 Nov 2008 12:11:46 UTC
CPU Type: dual core with Windows XP

Results:
2008-11-24 20,982
2008-11-25 49,419
2008-11-26 39,328
2008-11-27 18,008

2008-11-28 568,910 ---<<<<<

A dual core system has made in 5 days Total Credit 696,646

Links : Account ID --> http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39368

Boincstats Link for this account --> http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39368


569.910 credits in a single day ??? and from a dual system??

NO WAY



I think this is another of the same^^^
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39138

Commission time 2008-11-21
CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz
Number of CPU's (number of (virtual) cores) 1(2)
Operating System and version Microsoft Windows XP

Total Credit 66,883.96
2008-11-28 62,716
2008-11-22 1,879
2008-11-23 1,804
2008-11-24 462
2008-11-21 23

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Message 6997 - Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 23:56:57 UTC
Last modified: 29 Nov 2008, 23:58:26 UTC

Dear Travis thank you very much for your interest to check this strange account/computer, please check this computer too:

Owner Anonymous
Created 23 Nov 2008 10:35:31 UTC
Total Credit 1,794,145

Avg. credit 23,709.25
CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7350 @ 2.93GHz [EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]
Number of CPUs 64
Operating System Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.02.3790.00)

Last days results :

2008-11-28 1,647,205 <<<----- Wow, my jaw is on the floor !!!!!!!
2008-11-24 125,231
2008-11-23 21,709

Links:

Account ID :
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39368

Boincstats results:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39288

This guy he is cheating !!
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Message 6999 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 0:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 6997.  
Last modified: 30 Nov 2008, 0:05:13 UTC

Dear Travis thank you very much for your interest to check this strange account/computer, please check this computer too:

Owner Anonymous
Created 23 Nov 2008 10:35:31 UTC
Total Credit 1,794,145

Avg. credit 23,709.25
CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7350 @ 2.93GHz [EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]
Number of CPUs 64
Operating System Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.02.3790.00)

Last days results :

2008-11-28 1,647,205 <<<----- Wow, my jaw is on the floor !!!!!!!
2008-11-24 125,231
2008-11-23 21,709

Links:

Account ID :
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=39368

Boincstats results:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39288

This guy he is cheating !!



That was the one I posted about a few up.
(I can't say if this is out of place) but a 32(64) core server is getting 1.6 million credits/day. Is that correct?

http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=39288

Does have 64 cpus but seems very high. And user is n/a
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Message 7002 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 0:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 6999.  

And user is n/a

Fortunately, Travis can very easily see the owner of those computers from the admin pages.
Please use "Reply" or "Quote" buttons on posts, instead of "reply to this thread". Keep the posts linked together ("X is a reply to Y").
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Message 7003 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 0:12:24 UTC
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banditwolf oops sorry ...

One or two guys they are cheating !!

With the daily limit of 300 tasks per computer none can just in a single day crunch too many wus for 600.000 or 1.650.000 credits!!
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Message 7005 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 0:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 7003.  

banditwolf oops sorry ...

:P

One or two guys they are cheating !!


I would guess one who is very good and a few others who aren't as proficient at cheating/ and/or optimizing the new apps.
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Message 7018 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 1:52:08 UTC
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Well, I would be careful about making calls of cheating.

This could be merely a case of host merging.

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Message 7021 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 2:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 7018.  

Well, I would be careful about making calls of cheating.

This could be merely a case of host merging.

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Or could be multiple virtual machines running on one host thereby getting more work?

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Message 7027 - Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 3:27:11 UTC - in response to Message 7021.  

Well, I would be careful about making calls of cheating.

This could be merely a case of host merging.

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Or could be multiple virtual machines running on one host thereby getting more work?


Could be. The owner might then resort to merging a number of the 'virtual' HID's to reduce the clutter in his account listing and presto, whopping big numbers every so often.

We've seen this kind of 'creative scripting' off and on for at least a couple of years.

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Message 7130 - Posted: 1 Dec 2008, 14:24:17 UTC

I have just reduced my connection tine from 1.5 days to .5 days but I am still running High piority any chance of increasing stripe deadline time perhaps by a day to four days. not for this host but slower. I will still be able to complete these WU in time as most of my other prject WUs have deadlines of 28 days. Just means suspending other projects for a couple of hours.

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Message 7151 - Posted: 1 Dec 2008, 18:13:28 UTC - in response to Message 7130.  

I have just reduced my connection tine from 1.5 days to .5 days but I am still running High piority any chance of increasing stripe deadline time perhaps by a day to four days. not for this host but slower. I will still be able to complete these WU in time as most of my other prject WUs have deadlines of 28 days. Just means suspending other projects for a couple of hours.

michael.


Unfortunately, what we're doing is somewhat more time sensitive than other BOINC projects, so the 3 day limit is already pretty high.
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Message 7154 - Posted: 1 Dec 2008, 18:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 7151.  
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I have just reduced my connection tine from 1.5 days to .5 days but I am still running High piority any chance of increasing stripe deadline time perhaps by a day to four days. not for this host but slower. I will still be able to complete these WU in time as most of my other prject WUs have deadlines of 28 days. Just means suspending other projects for a couple of hours.

michael.


Unfortunately, what we're doing is somewhat more time sensitive than other BOINC projects, so the 3 day limit is already pretty high.


Also, this situation should improve as folks TDCF settles back down from the chaos of the last month or so. ;-)

I wasn't having HP/EDF issues back last summer when things were relatively quiet around here. :-D

<edit> I know you're waiting for new local drives to arrive, but could you please consider going back to 1 day purging. We seemed to be doing OK with that when everyone was on the same app page at this runtime level before. ;-)


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Message 7164 - Posted: 1 Dec 2008, 18:50:39 UTC

Just a quick YEE-HAA for the staff at MW!! Just ran my first WU with the optimized app.( .04 ) My machine is a P4/3.06/1 CPU/ 1 gig of memory & 128 mb video. The WU flew through my machine aproximately 10 times faster!!! WU's were running 9 to 10 hrs B4, now, 1 hr & 17 mins for a WU. thats much better.Good work.
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Message 7708 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 13:35:32 UTC

Since this was covered before in this topic=

It seems that it should be impossible to get this kind of credit on MW with the credit limit right?

How about 3,145,349 credits in one day?
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=milkyway&id=40570

Host ID "40570"

Owner n/a
Link to users host stats n/a

Commission time 2008-12-10

CPU Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7350 @ 2.93GHz
Number of CPU's (number of (virtual) cores) 32(64)
Operating System and version Microsoft Windows Server 2003

Total Credit 3,162,573.22

Seems to have only run for 1 day.

Travis: Is this when a lot of the errored/odd results were from?
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