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Message 65593 - Posted: 4 Nov 2016, 22:29:38 UTC

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Message 65601 - Posted: 6 Nov 2016, 15:22:08 UTC - in response to Message 65593.  

Unfortunately they do not work anymore. The project was updated some months ago and the old arm wu's all fail.
Believe me, i am sad too.
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Message 65843 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 19:50:28 UTC
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I'm not really sure how practical it is to use these mobile devices anyway. Other than not being very powerful compared to full higher end PCs, they're specifically made and optimized to be mostly idle most of the time and aren't suited to being up and crunching in the background for extended periods of time.

In practical terms, I think supporting them is more of a novelty to generate interests in these scientific projects, which of course is a good thing as well, but not an efficient use of project resources. There are much more powerful and available platforms which are left ideal too often as it is now anyway. These mobile devises deserve to be on the bottom of a priorities list, if not left off altogether, until such time as it becomes more practical to use them.

This isn't meant to offend anyway. I myself very much enjoy using, customizing, and playing around with some of these devices. I think it's important to acknowledged their limitations and more fitting usage scenarios though.
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Message 65846 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 21:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 65843.  

I'm not really sure how practical it is to use these mobile devices anyway. Other than not being very powerful compared to full higher end PCs, they're specifically made and optimized to be mostly idle most of the time and aren't suited to being up and crunching in the background for extended periods of time.

In practical terms, I think supporting them is more of a novelty to generate interests in these scientific projects, which of course is a good thing as well, but not an efficient use of project resources. There are much more powerful and available platforms which are left ideal too often as it is now anyway. These mobile devises deserve to be on the bottom of a priorities list, if not left off altogether, until such time as it becomes more practical to use them.

This isn't meant to offend anyway. I myself very much enjoy using, customizing, and playing around with some of these devices. I think it's important to acknowledged their limitations and more fitting usage scenarios though.


No.
14 months ago I added an Odroid to the project, an overclocked to 4x2 GHz Arm V7, crunching 24/7 MW only.
It took less than 5 weeks to see this device in the top 10,000 by overall credit!
I have my very first tablet in the kitchen as a radio, it did also crunch MW until the app did no longer work, also 24/7.
I have a 8" tablet, that was fallen down; 40% of the touch area is no longer working as a touch, but it works 24/7 as a crunching device, currently only for the skynet pogs. It has an average credit of 1,405 an an overall of 467,900.
Much better than throwing it away!
I love android wu's!
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Message 65847 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 21:06:14 UTC - in response to Message 65846.  

I'm not really sure how practical it is to use these mobile devices anyway. Other than not being very powerful compared to full higher end PCs, they're specifically made and optimized to be mostly idle most of the time and aren't suited to being up and crunching in the background for extended periods of time.

In practical terms, I think supporting them is more of a novelty to generate interests in these scientific projects, which of course is a good thing as well, but not an efficient use of project resources. There are much more powerful and available platforms which are left ideal too often as it is now anyway. These mobile devises deserve to be on the bottom of a priorities list, if not left off altogether, until such time as it becomes more practical to use them.

This isn't meant to offend anyway. I myself very much enjoy using, customizing, and playing around with some of these devices. I think it's important to acknowledged their limitations and more fitting usage scenarios though.


No.
14 months ago I added an Odroid to the project, an overclocked to 4x2 GHz Arm V7, crunching 24/7 MW only.
It took less than 5 weeks to see this device in the top 10,000 by overall credit!
I have my very first tablet in the kitchen as a radio, it did also crunch MW until the app did no longer work, also 24/7.
I have a 8" tablet, that was fallen down; 40% of the touch area is no longer working as a touch, but it works 24/7 as a crunching device, currently only for the skynet pogs. It has an average credit of 1,405 an an overall of 467,900.
Much better than throwing it away!
I love android wu's!


The best project I've found for my Nexus 7 is Enigma. It gets 1-2k RAC. For the small power drain it's a lot more efficient than any other project I've found when comparing PPD with desktop CPUs. Usually the tablet can do just a small fraction of a dual/quad core but that's a significant %.
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Message 65849 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 21:17:30 UTC

And how many of those WU were at the expense of a more capable platform being left idle? Hopefully none.

I'll be impressed if you can get within the top 10 hosts in performance in 5 weeks for MW@H, as I've been able to do with my PC in less time. In the larger picture, my computer isn't comparable to most though, so it's kind of a moot point.

Of course it's great that you want to help with your mobile and alternative devices as well, and I have no issue with it if it were practical, efficient, and productive to do so on the administrative server side of things as well as taking into account all available host resources and their performance capacities. I just have my doubts about it.
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