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Message 69191 - Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 23:54:26 UTC

It would appear the server refuses to give me tasks until I've been inactive for about 15 minutes. I get 600 tasks at a time, and Boinc gives the results back every minute and a half as requested by the server (see log below). But since Boinc reports every minute and a half, the server won't give me any more tasks until Boinc stops pestering the server. Is there some kind of hidden timer that the server isn't telling my client about? Why is the server saying "wait 1.5 minutes" when it really needs me to wait 15 minutes?

887 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:01 PM [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
888 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:01 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
889 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:01 PM Reporting 1 completed tasks
890 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:01 PM Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
891 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:01 PM [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
892 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:01 PM [sched_op] AMD/ATI GPU work request: 29694.34 seconds; 0.00 devices
893 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:04 PM Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
894 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:04 PM [sched_op] Server version 713
895 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:04 PM Project requested delay of 91 seconds
896 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:04 PM [sched_op] handle_scheduler_reply(): got ack for task de_modfit_83_bundle4_4s_south4s_bgset_2_1570151403_12432789_1
897 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:04 PM [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:01:31
898 Milkyway@Home 29/10/2019 11:43:04 PM [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
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Message 69192 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 3:20:11 UTC - in response to Message 69191.  
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This is a currently-known issue which probably relates to some server-side configuration issue, as other projects seem capable of issuing work on a combined "reporting" and "request new work" contact.

There are already existing threads on this subject - see Delay in getting new work units untill all work units have cleared and WUs not downloaded in time - rig is idling - doing no work ..., which you may [or may not :-)] find informative.

Cheers - Al.
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Message 69194 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 14:12:58 UTC - in response to Message 69192.  

Thanks, the search function for these forums is terrible, I can never find a discussion already in progress.
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Message 69195 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 14:31:53 UTC - in response to Message 69194.  

Thanks, the search function for these forums is terrible, I can never find a discussion already in progress.


Change the box to 'newest post first' and the latest ones should be up top just below the permanent threads.
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Message 69196 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 15:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 69195.  
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I mean if I do a search for keywords in the forum. Instead of a list of titles like google would do for a web search, everything is expanded and takes up many screens full. It's quite weird.

Just tried again, I never noticed the small section above of title matches! Because most of the screen is taken up with expanded messages where someone happened to mention that keyword in a reply.

Anyway, it never seems to match what I'm looking for, even if I search "GPU" which should have 1000s of results, I get ONE!

I think I sorted it, I should go into the advanced search, as the default is only the last month of results, which is rather small.
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Message 69197 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 10:53:49 UTC - in response to Message 69196.  

I mean if I do a search for keywords in the forum. Instead of a list of titles like google would do for a web search, everything is expanded and takes up many screens full. It's quite weird.

Just tried again, I never noticed the small section above of title matches! Because most of the screen is taken up with expanded messages where someone happened to mention that keyword in a reply.

Anyway, it never seems to match what I'm looking for, even if I search "GPU" which should have 1000s of results, I get ONE!

I think I sorted it, I should go into the advanced search, as the default is only the last month of results, which is rather small.


Yes the advanced search is MUCH better, but as you say if you are too specific you don't get what you want and if you are too generic you get thousands of what you don't want.
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Message 69198 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 14:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 69197.  


Yes the advanced search is MUCH better, but as you say if you are too specific you don't get what you want and if you are too generic you get thousands of what you don't want.


I've got used to Google just finding everything by itself. Remember the days before Google when we used various search engines which always gave the wrong results?
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Message 69216 - Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 10:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 69198.  


Yes the advanced search is MUCH better, but as you say if you are too specific you don't get what you want and if you are too generic you get thousands of what you don't want.


I've got used to Google just finding everything by itself. Remember the days before Google when we used various search engines which always gave the wrong results?


Yes I do!!
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Message 69219 - Posted: 1 Nov 2019, 23:54:42 UTC - in response to Message 69191.  


Not getting tasks, even though the server has 10000 available.


Well, my local bank has millions of euros available, but they aint gonna give'm to me.
I guess that's life, usually we dont get what we want, I'm used to it by now, i just ignore it and move on.
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Message 69223 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 18:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 69219.  


Not getting tasks, even though the server has 10000 available.


Well, my local bank has millions of euros available, but they aint gonna give'm to me.
I guess that's life, usually we dont get what we want, I'm used to it by now, i just ignore it and move on.


You clearly don't belong to a loud mouthed union then :-)
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Message 69594 - Posted: 12 Mar 2020, 13:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 69219.  
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Not getting tasks, even though the server has 10000 available.


Well, my local bank has millions of euros available, but they aint gonna give'm to me.
I guess that's life, usually we dont get what we want, I'm used to it by now, i just ignore it and move on.


Just went through this with LHC. They had plenty of atlas work units, most 1gb in size (VBox image) but only my Linux system could get work. Turned out the checkbox "Run native if available" should have been worded "Don't run anything except native code" After fixing the problem I got 5 huge withdrawals.
The 1gb+ withdrawals from the :"bank" on two system tied up my network for 20 minutes.

Atlas tasks can take up to 8 cpus which is nice to use with Milkyway GPU tasks.
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Message 69597 - Posted: 12 Mar 2020, 19:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 69594.  


Not getting tasks, even though the server has 10000 available.


Well, my local bank has millions of euros available, but they aint gonna give'm to me.
I guess that's life, usually we dont get what we want, I'm used to it by now, i just ignore it and move on.


Just went through this with LHC. They had plenty of atlas work units, most 1gb in size (VBox image) but only my Linux system could get work. Turned out the checkbox "Run native if available" should have been worded "Don't run anything except native code" After fixing the problem I got 5 huge withdrawals.
The 1gb+ withdrawals from the :"bank" on two system tied up my network for 20 minutes.

Atlas tasks can take up to 8 cpus which is nice to use with Milkyway GPU tasks.


I thought you could get 64 core ones? Somebody mentioned a Ryzen threadripper doing it.

I just had to rearrange how my systems are set up, due to Atlas tasks misbehaving in two ways. I did have it with Boinc set to use all 6 cores, but with the Einstein GPU tasks set to require a certain amount of CPU, so Boinc would reduce the number of CPU tasks accordingly and never throttle the GPU. This works fine with multiple single core CPU tasks eg. Rosetta. But when Boinc downloads Atlas, it gets a WU to use all the cores I've allocated, ignoring the fact that the GPU will always need some. And then, while it's running, Virtualbox gets set to normal priority instead of idle, so it takes the CPU in preference to the GPU getting to use it. I've fixed this by just finding out the most CPU cores ever needed by anything I run on the GPU, and setting Boinc to have that as how many are used (and telling it the GPU tasks need 0.01 CPUs - zero confuses it), now I get Atlas tasks using less cores.
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Message 69784 - Posted: 10 May 2020, 8:39:44 UTC

hi all made vid on youtube for multiple instances instruction's and at full load on a Radeon VII
RADEON VII GIGABYTE// 3 Instances_ Milkyway@home WUs BOINC_ 3_instances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xKy9wGKmz4
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