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Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 627 Credit: 94,940,203 RAC: 0 |
Just a short question: Has anybody tried the Catalyst 9.4 driver (with copied and renamed dlls)? If yes, which GPU, which OS and was it running stable? There appear to be some problems at least with the Radeon HD4890. The graphics driver just crashes and get restarted after loading the GPU for some seconds to some minutes (quite random, probability rises with the load). Looks almost like the behaviour of the Cat9.3 before the hotfix that corrected this problem for XP32 und XP64 (Vista had no problem with 9.3). I've got reports of three HD4890 cards that were tried in five different systems, but it runs neither under XP32 nor XP64. And this is not a general stability problem. Furmark or other stresstests are running fine. I just want to know if that problem also applies to the other 4800 or 3800 series cards and if it is isolated to WinXP (like the CAL bug of Cat9.3 before the hotfix). So if you've tried the Cat9.4, don't hesitate to tell about your results ;) |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 5,319 |
When i tried the Cat 9.4 it installed fine with the 4890 Cards I had but when I pulled them & put a 4870 back in it's place the Cat 9.4 Driver wouldn't work & I had to revert back to the 8.12 Driver to run the WU's again. The 9.4 Installer would say I didn't have a Compatible Video Card when the 4870 was Installed ... |
Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 627 Credit: 94,940,203 RAC: 0 |
When i tried the Cat 9.4 it installed fine with the 4890 Cards I had but when I pulled them & put a 4870 back in it's place the Cat 9.4 Driver wouldn't work & I had to revert back to the 8.12 Driver to run the WU's again. But If I understood you right, you had also problems with the stability of the Cat9.4 driver with MW and a HD4890 on WinXP64, isn't it? |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 5,319 |
When i tried the Cat 9.4 it installed fine with the 4890 Cards I had but when I pulled them & put a 4870 back in it's place the Cat 9.4 Driver wouldn't work & I had to revert back to the 8.12 Driver to run the WU's again. Yes, the 4890 wouldn't run with any other Driver than the 8.60 from Diamond or the 9.4 from ATI & then it was only for 4-5 Wu's & then I'd get the Video Driver Re-set issue. I was just pointing out that the Cat 9.4 Driver wouldn't work with the 4870 when I put it back in the Box in place of the 4890 & had to install the 8.12 Drivers to get the 4870 to work again. |
Send message Joined: 20 Mar 08 Posts: 108 Credit: 2,607,924,860 RAC: 0 |
4870X2, 4870/1G, 4850/1G. All with Windows XP x64, Cat 9.4 and MW 0.19e. I've noticed no difference from previous Cat versions at their best, apart from a few cases of all MW WUs freezing until BOINC restart or even reboot. But for all I know, that might not be driver-related. |
Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 627 Credit: 94,940,203 RAC: 0 |
4870X2, 4870/1G, 4850/1G. All with Windows XP x64, Cat 9.4 and MW 0.19e. That would mean only the 4890 cards are affected :( Guess I have to ask AMD about that. |
Send message Joined: 11 Nov 07 Posts: 232 Credit: 178,229,009 RAC: 0 |
I am using Catalyst 9.4 now but when I overclock the CPU I am forced to underclock the Radeon 4870 card to make it run stable, if not it will reboot after running a few Milkyway GPU work units. I am running Milkyway@home, Seti@home, Climateprediction.net, World Community Grid, lhcathome, Einstein@Home, Cosmology@Home and boincsimap. At the moment I underclock the 4870 card 20% and it looks good so fare but I have only tested 6 GPU work units. This is my computer currently running OC to 3600GHz, FSB=1600 Motherboard = ASUS P5K-E Wifi-AP Memory = 2 X Corsair CM2X2048-6400 Domain name comodore64 Local Standard Time UTC +2 hours Name comodore64 Created 11 Aug 2008 15:26:46 UTC total credit 64,648 Average credit 371.36 Cross project credit CPU type GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11] Number of processors 4 Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium x64 Editon, Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00) Memory 4094.18 MB Cache 244.14 KB Swap space 8361.64 MB Total disk space 10.74 GB Free Disk Space 8.59 GB Measured floating point speed 3417.52 million ops/sec Measured integer speed 10468.26 million ops/sec Average upload rate 37.25 KB/sec Average download rate 205.56 KB/sec Average turnaround time 2.27 days Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 100/day Tasks 12 Number of times client has contacted server 1109 Last time contacted server 15 Apr 2009 14:34:03 UTC % of time BOINC client is running 65.3508 % While BOINC running, % of time host has an Internet connection 97.9341 % While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed 99.8934 % Average CPU efficiency 0.971469 Task duration correction factor 0.08292 |
Send message Joined: 20 Mar 08 Posts: 108 Credit: 2,607,924,860 RAC: 0 |
That would mean only the 4890 cards are affected :( I chose my wording carefully: "I haven't noticed". I'm not always watching, and a VPU recovery might have gone unnoticed. But nothing of the severity PB reports, no. |
Send message Joined: 20 Mar 08 Posts: 108 Credit: 2,607,924,860 RAC: 0 |
Er... I think you can add 4850/1G to the list of cards with Cat 9.4 problems. I noticed another case of frozen MW WUs, and decided to investigate. Disabled the "problem camouflage" called VPU recovery and restarted BOINC: OS freeze, no less! Hard reboot, same story within few minutes. Replaced 9.4 with 8.12 and all is well (also on the 4870 cards still using 9.4). |
Send message Joined: 12 Mar 09 Posts: 61 Credit: 9,214,340 RAC: 0 |
I've two 4850/512 with 9.4 under Vista 64 on two i7 920 systems running without any problems as with 9.3, 9.2 and so on edit: they're running 0.19e with 2 tasks on each gpu, the cpus run seti the only thing i can't do is to use any remote desktop software, because both systems crash or not after using ms rdp or vnc or teamviewer |
Send message Joined: 8 Mar 08 Posts: 17 Credit: 4,411,459 RAC: 0 |
It's running fine here on the 9.4 drivers (one i had made copies of the .dll files). Running Vista x64 SP1 9.4 Catalyst Driver |
Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 627 Credit: 94,940,203 RAC: 0 |
Just trying to find a pattern, the feedback so far appears to indicate that it runs on Vista, but with XP and teh Cat9.4 there are problems. That coincides with the Cat 9.3, only a hotfix enabled the correct function of the CAL interface (used by the GPU app) on XP32 and XP64 systems. |
Send message Joined: 11 Nov 07 Posts: 232 Credit: 178,229,009 RAC: 0 |
Yes. I can now confirm after more than 100 work units that it runs fine using Vista64. |
Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 627 Credit: 94,940,203 RAC: 0 |
the only thing i can't do is to use any remote desktop software, because both systems crash or not after using ms rdp or vnc or teamviewer Remote desktop does not work at GPUGrid or CUDA-SETI either ;) The problem is that Windows loads a virtual display driver for the remote session. The GPU applications don't get access to the hardware in that case. Actually you can get it to work with VNC, you only have to disable the mirror driver (same problem as with the virtual display driver of a remote desktop session). It is a bit slow then, but it runs. |
Send message Joined: 26 Jan 09 Posts: 589 Credit: 497,834,261 RAC: 0 |
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I am using Cat 9.4 on my 4830. As far as I can tell it is running just fine. Windows 7-64 as the OS. |
Send message Joined: 18 Nov 07 Posts: 280 Credit: 2,442,757 RAC: 0 |
So after a bit of DriverCleaner Dot Net I installed 8.12 and its worked well since. Just wanted to mention, as a free alternative you could try DriverSweeper. I'm not sure which is more up-to-date (if AMD have changed the driver structure recently), although I think DriverCleaner (.NET) supports a greater number of drivers. |
Send message Joined: 30 Apr 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 648,998 RAC: 0 |
Can anybody confirm the HD4870X2 working on both cores for MW@Home on WinXP x86? |
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