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Message 29067 - Posted: 9 Aug 2009, 0:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 29005.  

Has anyone tried running BOINC w/ the MW ATI app in a WinXP VirtualBox under Debian/Ubuntu?

signed, Sharon LOL


How about WinXP 32b in VirtualBox under any 64b Linux?

Wouldn't work in VirtualBox, because it emulates a graphics card. The application/drivers need native access to the card to work.
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Message 29072 - Posted: 9 Aug 2009, 5:52:31 UTC - in response to Message 29067.  

Has anyone tried running BOINC w/ the MW ATI app in a WinXP VirtualBox under Debian/Ubuntu?

signed, Sharon LOL


How about WinXP 32b in VirtualBox under any 64b Linux?

Wouldn't work in VirtualBox, because it emulates a graphics card. The application/drivers need native access to the card to work.


Glad I didn't spend a few hours on this last night. Thanx as it was still a slight temptation.

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Message 30061 - Posted: 1 Sep 2009, 0:29:11 UTC

Where is the Linux ATI app?

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    Message 30063 - Posted: 1 Sep 2009, 3:20:37 UTC - in response to Message 30061.  

    Yea right... not here in windys land.
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    Message 31265 - Posted: 20 Sep 2009, 22:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 30063.  

    Yea right... not here in windys land.

    One can always hope.

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      Message 31464 - Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 19:10:44 UTC

      Hi, is there any chance that in the near future I will be able to use my 4670HD too?
      Thanks
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      Message 31467 - Posted: 24 Sep 2009, 19:48:22 UTC - in response to Message 31464.  

      Hi, is there any chance that in the near future I will be able to use my 4670HD too?
      Thanks


      Unfortunately no, as it does not support double precision.

      Collatz will work though.
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      Message 32223 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009, 9:26:32 UTC

      Hey guys!

      Here letting everyone know that I have this working with the 5850 on Win7 RTM 32bit. Let me know if you need anything from me!

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      Message 32620 - Posted: 21 Oct 2009, 22:16:02 UTC
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      Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app.

      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer
      Kernel Execution : Uninitialized or Allocation failed Input streams.
      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer


      This buffer alloc error is occurring on two different machines.

      Both machines have HD4850 cards. One clocked stock 625/993 the other one at 650/975MHz.

      The stock clocked one is running WindozeXP 32b, SP3 has ~29 out of the last 100 WUs get the error below. The slightly OC'd one running WindozeXP 64b, had ~27 out of the last 100WUs get the error below.

      Both are running the same app version, both using driver v8.12 and BOINC v6.10.13. Both machines are running 4 WUs at a time.

      I am wondering if the 4 WUs in parallel is the root cause but would like the developer's opinion on that.

      I'm currently changing the Win 64b machine to run 3 at a time in an attempt to see if that improves the error rate at all.

      The error in all cases looks like THIS ONE
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      Message 32622 - Posted: 21 Oct 2009, 22:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 32223.  

      Hey guys!

      Here letting everyone know that I have this working with the 5850 on Win7 RTM 32bit. Let me know if you need anything from me!

      SinisterMinister

      Yea, I need your 5850 and the big box its attached to - with 3 pin English plug on the power lead if poss. And your address to send the electric bills to :P


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      Message 32623 - Posted: 21 Oct 2009, 23:10:57 UTC

      >with 3 pin English plug
      You can't even supply your own IEC lead?! Now that's cheap! :-)
      Cheers,

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      Message 32625 - Posted: 21 Oct 2009, 23:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 32623.  

      >with 3 pin English plug
      You can't even supply your own IEC lead?! Now that's cheap! :-)

      I need an English plug, that's for sure ;)


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      Message 32628 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 0:33:13 UTC - in response to Message 32620.  
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      Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app.

      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer
      Kernel Execution : Uninitialized or Allocation failed Input streams.
      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer


      This buffer alloc error is occurring on two different machines.

      Both machines have HD4850 cards. One clocked stock 625/993 the other one at 650/975MHz.

      The stock clocked one is running WindozeXP 32b, SP3 has ~29 out of the last 100 WUs get the error below. The slightly OC'd one running WindozeXP 64b, had ~27 out of the last 100WUs get the error below.

      Both are running the same app version, both using driver v8.12 and BOINC v6.10.13. Both machines are running 4 WUs at a time.

      I am wondering if the 4 WUs in parallel is the root cause but would like the developer's opinion on that.

      I'm currently changing the Win 64b machine to run 3 at a time in an attempt to see if that improves the error rate at all.

      The error in all cases looks like THIS ONE


      So far running 3 concurrent WUs seems to give much relief. After starting BOINC back up it ran 31 in a row w/o error, then 2 errors, 5 good, 1 error, 2 good, 1 error, 22 good, more good... etc. etc.

      So last count it looks like about 4 errors in 99 WUs or about a 4% error rate.

      After seeing the 1st 30 go thru w/o errors I changed the other machine (32b, stock clocks) to only do 3 at a time and it hasn't had an error'd WU since (it's done almost 90).

      I then reset the clocks to 640/980MHz on the 64b OS'd machine, left it running 3 WUs concurrent and haven't had any errors since but it'll take a bit more time to get to thru enough WUs to declare it under clean.

      Hope somebody finds this helpful.


      PS: Now I need an English PUB to celebrate ;-)
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      Message 32631 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 1:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 32620.  

      Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app.

      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer
      Kernel Execution : Uninitialized or Allocation failed Input streams.
      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer


      This buffer alloc error is occurring on two different machines.
      [..]
      Both machines are running 4 WUs at a time.

      I am wondering if the 4 WUs in parallel is the root cause but would like the developer's opinion on that.

      Don't wonder anymore, it is the reason.

      Actually I wonder how the error messages can be made clearer than they are. Do you have a suggestion? I would think that if an allocation fails (what reasons for this come to your mind?) the cause is quite clear. But that's only me I guess ;).
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      Message 32634 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 2:12:04 UTC - in response to Message 32631.  


      Actually I wonder how the error messages can be made clearer than they are. Do you have a suggestion? I would think that if an allocation fails (what reasons for this come to your mind?) the cause is quite clear. But that's only me I guess ;).


      Can't start more than 3 tasks at one time. or Can't run that many tasks at one time.


      To me that in addition to your wording it would be good. Though I don't have a gpu or deal with any. I think your wording is simple but its meaning is more complex and some won't/don't understand it.

      Hope that is some help.
      Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
      If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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      Message 32638 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 3:13:08 UTC - in response to Message 32631.  
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      Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app.

      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer
      Kernel Execution : Uninitialized or Allocation failed Input streams.
      Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer


      This buffer alloc error is occurring on two different machines.
      [..]
      Both machines are running 4 WUs at a time.

      I am wondering if the 4 WUs in parallel is the root cause but would like the developer's opinion on that.

      Don't wonder anymore, it is the reason.

      Actually I wonder how the error messages can be made clearer than they are. Do you have a suggestion? I would think that if an allocation fails (what reasons for this come to your mind?) the cause is quite clear. But that's only me I guess ;).


      I assume that at the point in time the app has ask for some memory for the buffer and the 'alloc' just returns a "didn't happen" message so that you don't know for sure if it's truly an "out of memory" condition or an "out of handles" or something more obscure like that? If so, I think the message is fine.

      Purely guessing, I am thinking it tried to start before a completing WU had finished releasing it's memory. Or do you really think 4 WUs ate up 512MB?

      If that were the case I would've expected the error to occur more than it did. I noticed on at least the 8 or 9 of the errors from when it was running 4 at a time, it was always the 4th one starting that got the error. Makes sense. However, once it errors out another starts and runs fine (4 concurrent). In fact I can run 5 concurrent and the error rate doesn't go up much. Does this suggest that if the "getmain" or "alloc" or whatever is done were to be re-done that it might just succeed because some cleanup had finished?

      Also, does this imply that running 6 concurrent WUs might be fine on a 1GB card or are there other limitations in play here?

      Oh well, guess it doesn't really matter at this point.
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      Message 32639 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 9:26:13 UTC

      Hello,


      Q) What is the most common configuration in terms of OS/ATi Catalyst/BOINC/ATI app used?

      A common trend is the two configurations listed below:

      XP / Cat 8.12 / BOINC 6.4.7 / 0.19f
      XP / Cat 8.12 / BOINC 6.6.20 / 0.19f


      I guess this is not accurate anymore

      anyway, I have a 4770 and Cat 8.12 does not recognize the 4770


      I encounter VPU recovery after a few seconds of calculation.

      I'm on XP32 / CCC 9.9 / Boinc 6.10.13 / 0.20b (tried also the 0.20)

      anyone for a clue ?

      thanks
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      Message 32640 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 10:19:16 UTC

      Hi super,

      There are 2 threads on the board that mention the 4770,
      http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1109
      and
      http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1187
      The consensus seems to be that they're hard to get working.
      Cheers,

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      Message 32641 - Posted: 22 Oct 2009, 10:47:42 UTC


      thanks for these, verstapp

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      Message 33906 - Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 22:41:21 UTC
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      - problem solved -

      Finally, GPU working properly. Nice results even after few minutes :D
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