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Posts by Jord

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23287)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Jord
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I have taken my systems off of Milkyway as per immediately. They won't return until the GPU project is up&running and the kinks have been ironed out over there.

And even then, what's to keep the scripters from keeping their scripts running to get more work for their CPUs once their GPUs have moved? Nothing.

2) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22922)
Posted 21 May 2009 by Jord
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Um, not exactly. Just as Bell was not the only guy that invented the telephone, DA is not the only one that invented distributed computing. Yes he made a successful tool and was an advocate for it, but, I recall almost 10 DC projects underway at the time I started doing SaH Classic ... had he not been the first on the street I think that some other project would have become the big cahuna ...

Look, I wasn't talking about any of the other distributed computing projects that were out there, some may still be. You read too much into it. I said that without David there would have been no Seti@Home (in the form it was available to all of us) and there certainly would be no BOINC. What would've otherwise happened is one for the parallel universe theorists.

As to project developers huddled together under one umbrella?

Not BOINC (code) developers, but project developers. People like Travis Deschell, Eric Myers, Eric Korpela, Jack Shultz, Nicolás Alvarez, Rytis Slatkevicius. The people who came up with the idea of the project and programmed it into usable applications.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22919)
Posted 21 May 2009 by Jord
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Devs could focus on the important things like fixing the mess that he made of boinc...

The little thing people forget is this: Without David there would have been no Seti@Home and no BOINC, so also no project developers all huddled together under one umbrella and nothing for the participants to worry, conspire or theorize about. You'd be installing 50 different programs to do your 50 different programs, all working against each other.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22911)
Posted 21 May 2009 by Jord
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The folks you need to lobby largely or the DA Consortium which has been influenced to support CUDA *to the exclusion* of ATI.

God, talk about conspiracy theories. The faked moon landings, the giant face on Mars, the start of the war on terrorism. They're all fault of the DA Consortium! Wouldn't the world be a better place without this beast?
5) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22822)
Posted 20 May 2009 by Jord
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So the next thing that comes is that there's two projects where there's no work, as all the ATI stay here, all the CUDA are there... I wonder if there's a 3rd project coming.

Milkyway_CPU
Milkyway_GPU_ATI
Milkyway_GPU_CUDA

;-)
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 22821)
Posted 20 May 2009 by Jord
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As long as BOINC doesn't support detection of ATI GPUs yet, any 'official' application still has to use the anonymous platform or a wrapper.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22412)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Jord
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It sounds more and more as if this project is going to be the Duke Nukem Forever of BOINC: Vaporware.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : WUs distribution (Message 21596)
Posted 8 May 2009 by Jord
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I am not sure of all of the reasons but one is likely that DA asked for an ATI card, they promised it, and UCB still has not gotten it.

Um, no.. they got it but it didn't work. The whole ATI support is being tested in-house;

Don't forget, there is also the need to add support of OpenCL.

If projects want to have CAL or OpenCL support is totally up to them. It's the science application that uses that, BOINC only uses C for the detection.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20832)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Jord
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...the AGP fast write was disabled. According to ATIs help page, this allows the CPU to wtire directly to the GPU. I have no idea what that's for, so I left it off..


"This BIOS feature controls the AGP bus' Fast Write capability. Fast Write is a feature which accelerates memory write transactions from the chipset to the AGP device.

Fast Write allows the AGP device act like a PCI device. This allows it to bypass the main memory and directly access the data which improves AGP read performance. However AGP write performance is not affected.

While this feature may appear to greatly improve the performance of AGP graphics cards, its actual performance effect is quite negligible. Also, it reduces the overclockability of the graphics card when enabled.

Therefore, if you do not intend to overclock your graphics card, it is recommended that you enable AGP Fast Write for potentially better AGP read performance. However, you should definitely disable it if you intend to overclock your graphics card, or if any of your PCI cards start acting funny."

(source)
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20816)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Jord
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If I remember it right, the AGP controller driver has to be installed before the graphics driver. Maybe that is the culprit. One looses quite a bit of performance if the AGP port runs in the PCI compatibility mode and the graphics driver may even not work correctly. So could you check that you have the appropriate northbridge driver (containing the AGP controller) installed?

Usually these drivers get installed together with the rest of the chipset drivers.

Also, if an embedded video chip is on the motherboard, but it is disabled (in the BIOS, by a jumper or by plugging in an actual card, depends on motherboard how that's done), then this can throw off readings of the AGP bus. The other weekend I was fighting with a motherboard that has a GF 7900 GS on it, which would show everything enabled, but for the GF.

I solved it there by using DriverCleaner Pro to delete all motherboard and Nvidia (oops, not ATI ;-)) drivers, then reinstalling all motherboard drivers manually, and the earlier 180.06 drivers, before upgrading to the newer drivers.

It is possible that this is a similar case.

Donnie, what's your motherboard model?
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20657)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Jord
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GPU-Z will show the DirectX support the card has, which is DirectX 10.1, even if you have older versions of Dx installed. For me it also shows 10.1, while I only have 9.0c installed.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20351)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Jord
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Yes, that's a hacked version, not supported by MS. it can have the strangest of artifacts. And to be honest, judging from some of the pictures I saw, it doesn't make things look better... worse even. ;-)

(Dx 10 for XP)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20349)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Jord
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I upgraded DirectX 9.0c to 10.0 for XP. I didn't think that would hurt since I was getting the errors also on 9.0c.

There is a DirectX 10 for XP? Not from Microsoft...

The local preferences are set to use 100% CPU, but I don't see where this would cause an "output file absent" message.

The GPU app still runs in normal memory, it will only execute the tasks in the GPU. All checkpointing and such is still done on disk, so throttling BOINC will have an impact.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20347)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Jord
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I had a fresh install of Windows so I had to download BOINC again (6.6.20).

Did you:

- Install your motherboard chipset drivers?
- Install DirectX 9.0c?
- Make sure your BOINC isn't throttling (Use at most 100% CPU)?
15) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20296)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Jord
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Yeah, and when OpenCL is released for CUDA and Stream, my own work simulations as well.

It is available from Nvidia.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Need Help - HD3850 AGP & Cat 8.12 + (Message 20277)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Jord
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Yeah, I have a Sapphire HD3850 512MB GDDR3 AGP card. Using the 8.12 Cats. Only ran it for a couple of test runs with 0.19e. Mainly use my card for Oblivion, Crysis, Crysis Warhead & all the various Command & Conquer games.

Never had problems installing the drivers, never had to use the Sapphire Hotfix either.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20238)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Jord
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look at the nVidia website, i'm sure they'rerecomending a 650w for s system that runs a 4890

I'm still wondering why nVidia will say what PSU to use on a competitor's videocard. Should you then believe the information that's there? It's like ATI/AMD telling you you need a 1150W PSU on a GTX 295. ;-)
18) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19680)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Jord
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The moon? It doesn't exist.

It does so. It must. I have a picture of it on my desktop! That can't be fabricated. :-)
19) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19674)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Jord
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How long was the Earth considered flat and / or the center of the universe?

It isn't?

Heretic!!

Never mind about that. Let's keep focused on those pin holes in the night sky we call the Milky Way.

After we established whether they turn around us or the moon. :-)
20) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19662)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Jord
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How long was the Earth considered flat and / or the center of the universe?

It isn't?

Heretic!!


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