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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Over 9 Million Points In One Day... (Message 62187)
Posted 16 Aug 2014 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Hi All,

This is the second time I've notice this happening...a cruncher coming out of obscurity and scoring big for one day and then vanishing again, never to be seen again.

While checking my score over at FreeDC I see this cruncher suddenly jumping up to 5th place for my "Join Date" of October 1st, 2006...

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=69eda0868eb1ea16bbba8f0f46dcfd02

...over 9 million points in one day? How does that happen?

The same thing occurred with the cruncher in the number 6 position on this list sometime last year...

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userdatecomb&startdate=13422

...he just sort of showed up one day with over 4 million and then vanished.

Seems something is afoot. Just curious.

:)
Jimmy G


I would bet that they received a new Cross Project Identifier and all the credits from the old one transferred over to the the new one.


Thanks for your reply, arkayn. Just seems strange to see.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Over 9 Million Points In One Day... (Message 62068)
Posted 21 Jul 2014 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Hi All,

This is the second time I've notice this happening...a cruncher coming out of obscurity and scoring big for one day and then vanishing again, never to be seen again.

While checking my score over at FreeDC I see this cruncher suddenly jumping up to 5th place for my "Join Date" of October 1st, 2006...

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=69eda0868eb1ea16bbba8f0f46dcfd02

...over 9 million points in one day? How does that happen?

The same thing occurred with the cruncher in the number 6 position on this list sometime last year...

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userdatecomb&startdate=13422

...he just sort of showed up one day with over 4 million and then vanished.

Seems something is afoot. Just curious.

:)
Jimmy G
3) Message boards : News : Server Updates (Message 60073)
Posted 2 Oct 2013 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Identical problem to Mikey...several second lag for login (this has been going on for a while now) and ~ 15 second delay in posting this message (yes, I posted to test and then edited to provide the time it took)
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems with Modified Fit v1.28 (Message 59939)
Posted 20 Sep 2013 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
I'm noticing that the 1.28's are taking an inordinate amount of time to crunch tasks compared to the 1.26's. I've got a stack of them (8) running on my i7 Macbook Pro for 2 days now. Performance dips were the same for the i7 iMac, I knew something was up when my daily credit average went from about 20,000 down to 300. LOL

I just unplugged from the series...I'll wait for the next version.
5) Message boards : News : Separation Modified Fit v1.28 Release (Message 59937)
Posted 20 Sep 2013 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Running WU's on Mac OSX, previous version took about 3-1/2 hrs to complete, new version still running and after 19 hrs they are only 66% complete. Previous WU's were worth 267 credits, what will these be worth?


The difference in run times for the 1.28's vs. the 1.26's is enormous...~95,000 seconds (1.28) and 24,00o seconds (1.26)...yikes! And the credit for both are the same at 267.19...double yikes! Looks like there's something wrong with the recipe...time to unplug from processing them again.

Valid Milkyway@Home Separation (Modified Fit) tasks for Jimmy Gondek:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?userid=180745&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=10

:(
6) Message boards : News : N-Body 1.08 (Message 57778)
Posted 3 Apr 2013 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
FWIW, I've been noticing that several n-bodies will be running simultaneously, and equally, at greater than 100% cpu capacity but only one will indicate "High Priority" in the Task list.

Also, I've noticed a significant drop in my daily credit average (roughly 23,000 to roughly 16,000) since the implementation of the 1.08's. Is this due to a poorer cpu usage scheme (read: efficiency) or has the credit allocation method been altered?

:)
7) Message boards : News : N-Body 1.08 (Message 57577)
Posted 20 Mar 2013 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Hi Jake,

A couple of stderr's as examples below...more in my task bin...is this what you're looking for...?

Task 424020748
Jimmy Gondek | log out
Name ps_nbody_100K_EMD_32013_2_1358941502_230897_0
Workunit 326324298
Created 20 Mar 2013 | 18:12:21 UTC
Sent 20 Mar 2013 | 18:32:31 UTC
Received 20 Mar 2013 | 18:58:55 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 330727
Report deadline 1 Apr 2013 | 18:32:31 UTC
Run time 1,584.00
CPU time 3,518.23
Validate state Checked, but no consensus yet
Credit 0.00
Application version MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation v1.08
Stderr output

<core_client_version>6.12.43</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
<search_application> milkyway_nbody 1.08 Darwin x86_64 double OpenMP, Crlibm </search_application>
Number of particles in bins is very small compared to total. (7 << 100000). Skipping distance calculation
<search_likelihood>-9999999.900000000372529</search_likelihood>
14:58:48 (73108): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


Task 423995278
Jimmy Gondek | log out
Name de_nbody_100K_EMD_32013_1358941502_229457_1
Workunit 326299430
Created 20 Mar 2013 | 17:26:12 UTC
Sent 20 Mar 2013 | 17:42:41 UTC
Received 20 Mar 2013 | 18:12:50 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 330727
Report deadline 1 Apr 2013 | 17:42:41 UTC
Run time 1,809.00
CPU time 6,633.10
Validate state Checked, but no consensus yet
Credit 0.00
Application version MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation v1.08
Stderr output

<core_client_version>6.12.43</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
<search_application> milkyway_nbody 1.08 Darwin x86_64 double OpenMP, Crlibm </search_application>
<search_likelihood>-14517.243707935935163</search_likelihood>
14:12:44 (72750): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


8) Message boards : News : issues with workunits crashing might be fixed now and nbody work generation information (Message 54991)
Posted 4 Jul 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
...July 3rd, just had a slew of "Computation Errors" go back to you...

EDIT:...MWAH was just performing a string of 6 NBody 0.84s and all were coming up the same "Computation Error" so I decided to exit MWAH/BOINC Manager after the 3rd one just to see if the software was acting up...the effort yielded the same result, the remaining 3 0.84s errored out, as well...but a 1.01 finished subsequently with no problem...

Typical stderr for the NBodys...

Task 248919949:
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=248919949

ps_plum_slice_EMD_NEW_100K_1341346802_6694_1

<core_client_version>6.12.43</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 15 (0xf, -241)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
<search_application> milkyway_nbody 0.84 Darwin x86_64 double OpenMP, Crlibm </search_application>
Using OpenMP 8 max threads on a system with 8 processors
Error reading histogram line 37: massPerParticle = 0.000100
21:55:47 (80181): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>
9) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54586)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
...nope, nothing comin' out of the hose...you sure the water's turned on?...
10) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 54583)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
BOINC 6.12.43 can be found at:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D

This is the same link I posted before.


...I bow to greatness!...my apologies, Kashi, for not recognizing your genius earlier!... :)
11) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 54566)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Hem - no .43 version to fall back to.

Well it is dead again tonight - I check the activity showing All Processes Hierarchically and Under BOINC there is one process listed - boinc.
boinc - user is listed as Boinc_master - it is using .1 %Cpu 2 Threads and 11.1Mb
I can't find any WU's running though BOINC shows one Einstein and two Climate Processes - there clocks are not decrementing.
If I Quit BOINC and restart the WU's will run for several to ten's of minutes then hang.

So does someone on coding team need any additional data dumps to help decipher this issue?
Thanks
Curtis


Hi Curtis,

Just curious if you're seeing any other non-BOINC processes running at high rates when BOINC hangs for you. The issue I was encountering was an endless communications loop involving mDNSResponder, I was curious if you were seeing the same thing?

Also, I sent you a PM on this issue...at your convenience... :)
12) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 54556)
Posted 31 May 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
...snip...

Looks like you and me are both running the same iMac hardware and, yes, I find 6.12.43 to be rock solid for OSX 10.6.8 Snow Leopard on that machine. Hopefully .43 runs as nicely on OSX 10.7 Lion. The .43 release can be found at the link in the post directly above your post (when they BOINC servers are back up and running!), but be mindful that there are a few extra steps required of you beyond a simple install-and-run or you'll lose your existing WUs...when the servers are back up you'll want to peddle over to...

Release Notes for BOINC 7.0 - BOINC:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes_for_BOINC_7.0

...for the details.

...snip...

P.S. Hint: The next time you experience a hang open up Activity Monitor (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor) and see if the processes are still in memory and whether they are active.


Hi again, Curtis,

Sherlock Holmes & The Case Of The Missing Cadaver

Looks like the BOINC folks performed a CIA-like execution, cadaver removal and evidence cleanup of 6.12.43 over at that page (actually, the link for the 6.12.43 download was linked off the above page, the actual page where I originally downloaded 6.12.43 a few months back was here...

Download BOINC client software:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php )

They've also gone through the trouble of removing any evidence of its existence in the official BOINC Wiki...

VersionHistory – BOINC:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/VersionHistory

...if I were the suspicious sort, I'd say that folks were flocking to 6.12.43 when they realized that 7.0.25 was still an undercooked beta. But, more likely, they're probably just wanting folks to migrate to the newer version so they can refine it's qualities... :)

Regardless, from a developer's standpoint I'm not sure why one would want to point folks wishing to back-peddle to a version (6.12.35) with some obvious problems (as illustrated in my various post)...it'll only pollute their boards with new complaints (as they run into the same problems I did), make for a dissatisfied user base and waste a lot of people/machine-hours all-around...I hate to think of all the coal that will be burned just to bring this to a happy conclusion...I would ask, suggest and recommend that BOINC simply repost 6.12.43 to their pages and stop making it look like it never existed, it clearly solved some major problems with 6.12.35...well, my two-cents on the matter... :P

:)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 54549)
Posted 31 May 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
BOINC Community:
I am having this same issue - I suspect.. My BOINC Client keeps "hanging" and I believe it is from the WU's. I have to restart BOINC several times a day because none of the WU's are progressing. The time just stops decrementing across the board. I've been running BOINC for over 10 years and I've never had an issue before. I'm currently running: Milky Way, SETI, Einstein, and Climate. Einstein and Climate models are having a particular problem running to completion - perhaps because SETI and MWay have much shorter run times. I've currently suspended SETI and MWay to concentrate on Einstein and Climate and nurse my current WU's through to completion.

I am on OS Lion. IMac 27' with 8 cores, and 8 Gig Ram. I run a percentage of my CPU for BOINC - 50% - to keep down the heat. I was running 7.0.25 but just loaded experimental 7.0.28 two days ago to see if the problem would go away. No change.

I am now looking at going back to 6.12.35 because that is what is on the download site. I would like to try the .43 version that worked for Jimmy G. but don't know where to locate it.
Is there a URL for that version?
Thanks
Curtis Conkey


Hi Curtis, and welcome to the boards!

Sorry to hear about your woes...been there, pulled those hairs out. :) While running buggy releases can certainly be an exercise in frustration I'm sure the developers here would appreciate your help and feedback in ironing out the glitches you're encountering in v7 (that, of course, you've got the time and patience for such things). Something to think about. As you can see from this thread (and associated links), cracking what the problem and solutions are can take some time!

Looks like you and me are both running the same iMac hardware and, yes, I find 6.12.43 to be rock solid for OSX 10.6.8 Snow Leopard on that machine. Hopefully .43 runs as nicely on OSX 10.7 Lion. The .43 release can be found at the link in the post directly above your post (when they BOINC servers are back up and running!), but be mindful that there are a few extra steps required of you beyond a simple install-and-run or you'll lose your existing WUs...when the servers are back up you'll want to peddle over to...

Release Notes for BOINC 7.0 - BOINC:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes_for_BOINC_7.0

...for the details.

Best to you,
:)

P.S. Hint: The next time you experience a hang open up Activity Monitor (Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor) and see if the processes are still in memory and whether they are active.
14) Message boards : News : UPDATE: Work Stoppage Remedied (Message 54165)
Posted 26 Apr 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Like the ryebreadman I thought I had a problem on my end, as well! Then when I checked the server status I thought that with the improvements and new equipment you had gotten that you might be suffering from your own success...too much efficiency where the crunchers and workload had reached a point of entropic stasis! Ha! Fine, fine job on getting things up and running!... :)
15) Message boards : Number crunching : WU Freezes BOINC Manager... (Message 54069)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
6-Week Final Update:...looks like BOINC Manager 6.12.43 has solved all of my issues with spontaneous restarts, waiting for gpu statuses and mdnsresponder system freezes...yay!...

...seeing how 6.12.35 was not playing well with OSX 10.6.8, perhaps the kind folks at BOINC would consider elevating 6.12.43 as their preferred v.6 OSX install on this page?...

Download BOINC client software:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

...and again, my sincere thanks to everyone for all your time, help, insights and suggestions!... :)
16) Message boards : Number crunching : N-Body's Trashing Task & Project Queues... (Message 54068)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
6-Week Final Update:...looks like BOINC Manager 6.12.43 has solved all of my issues with spontaneous restarts, waiting for gpu statuses and mdnsresponder system freezes...yay!...

...seeing how 6.12.35 was not playing well with OSX 10.6.8, perhaps the kind folks at BOINC would consider elevating 6.12.43 as their preferred v.6 OSX install on this page?...

Download BOINC client software:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

...and again, my sincere thanks to everyone for all your time, help, insights and suggestions!... :)
17) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 54067)
Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
6-Week Final Update:...looks like BOINC Manager 6.12.43 has solved all of my issues with spontaneous restarts, waiting for gpu statuses and mdnsresponder system freezes...yay!...

...seeing how 6.12.35 was not playing well with OSX 10.6.8, perhaps the kind folks at BOINC would consider elevating 6.12.43 as their preferred v.6 OSX install on this page?...

Download BOINC client software:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

...and again, my sincere thanks to everyone for all your time, help, insights and suggestions!... :)
18) Message boards : News : New Separation Runs (Message 53523)
Posted 3 Mar 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Everything running smoothly here, Matthew. :)

I just had some techno-geek curiosity as to an elaboration on the nature of the "computer science" studies that were being investigated...?
19) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 53522)
Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
...and, the laptop just performed its final 4-cpu crash so I decided to upgrade that to 6.12.43 as well...here's to smooth sailing!...(jinx?!)...

:)
20) Message boards : Number crunching : "WU Freezes BOINC Manager" Redux... (Message 53517)
Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Jimmy Gondek
Post:
Hope 6.12.43 works OK for you.

To find the details of your hosts.

From project website: Your account>Computers on this account>click Free-DC(or BOINCstats) logo under first column, Computer ID.

From Free-DC website: On your "User by CPID Stats page" click your score for a current project. Hosts will be shown on the page you go to, click ID of host you are interested in. Only works if hosts aren't hidden.

Changes in host ID for the same computer means not all projects always show under the one host ID, especially projects you have not recently contributed to, if you are no longer attached.


Thanks for the well-wishes!

Your instructions for finding that particular stats page was spot-on! Thanks!

:)


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