Sandro, that is not what is being said and you know it. Stop trying to cause arguments and start the problems again. Things are settling down here. Why try so hard to make them worse? We don't want the optimised app at all. We want the project admins to do their best with the app they have and the current optimised app to go away. The current official app shouldn't be replaced in this manner, but it should be fixed. Then we are all on a level playing field. That is quite simple to understand.

The destruction of the project was exactly what zed demanded. That would happen if we would just release the binary to the public, quite simple.

If I understand you right, you don't want optimized apps, but you want the official app improved. Well, thats's exactly what we want. The project was somehow reluctant to improve the app in the last months. Now it appears they rethink their approach. Do you think that this would have happened if we just sat on our hands? I don't think so. Some action was (and still is) needed to get or keep things in motion.

A level playing field is important of course, but it can not be the excuse for wasting 99% of our CPU cycles. The level playing field was the very reason to create a new teamless account for this purpose. That way, no individual or team gets an unfair advantage. You should recognize this.

Then we are all on a level playing field.

again, this shows that you are not interested in the project itselfs, you just want others beeing as capable as you.
The project is able to make 100x more science in the same time, so a optimized app it actually good for them. milksaop is a teamless cruncher and he is aware that his account ist a "throw-away"-account, so no team or single cruncher should be threatenend

Go play in someone elses sandbox and stop causing trouble.

speaking about sandboxes, thats exact the image i have in mind when i read your and your fellows posts. a crying baby in a sandbox cause another have a bigger shovel than you.

People who use a weapon and threaten to continue using that weapon till they get what they want are called terrorists. This optimised app is being used in the same manner to achieve one persons or a small groups objectives.

You are correct, but it is not "cheating". The code is open source and you can get a copy and roll your own version of it too.

I love how I'm getting lumped in with "them" in this "us vs. them" thing too. BOTH groups are BOTH wrong in some of their approaches to the issue.

Where you and I will join together is if they start releasing the binary to people.

I just like happy endings. A happy ending here would be great for everyone.

Agreed, but the discussion to date has been how unfair it is that they're getting as many credits as they are and allegations of "cheating". They are not "cheating". They are teetering on the edge of what you are saying about holding the project hostage with some of their more recent posts (after I started objecting to this thread), and I'll address that in a little bit today. Need to get dressed and out the door at the moment...

Seriously, you should have some arguments against my version of the happy end.

Or you could answer the question if you (your team) wants the stock app to be improved or just want to avoid any disturbance to the project potentially affecting the high credit level here as suggested by the posts of Brian.

That was the reason for the reading comprehension teasing.

The Toilet must need Flushing again, it seems everything has slowed down, Uploads & Downloads are really slooooooowwwwwwwwww ... :)

yeah, problem solved :)
btw, i've added a little feature to the app as well...

if you look at the your results you'll see something like that now. ;)

<core_client_version>6.3.4</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Processor Information:
  Model: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2.40 GHz
  Package: 4 Cores

Processor Caches:
  L1 code cache, 32 KB
  L1 data cache, 32 KB
  L2 combined cache, 4 MB

Processor Features:   64bit   simd   [x86]   cmov   mmx   sse   sse2   sse3   ssse3   vmx   lm   lahf_lm   tm   tm2   eist   nx 
</stderr_txt>
]]>

I just wish I understood how to do that. Could you give me a little detail? I'm desperate to get back to MW. :)

You would need to install the 32-bit version of boinc to get it working atm.

Harald

And here I sit with exactly the same problem hoping that someone with a clue can help. :)

I have renamed the 32bit-version of astronomy to the 64bit version and it is running. The 32bit version is linked statically, and the 64bit version is linked dynamically. It should be recompiled to statically to avoid those problems.

Harald

-- which means you'll be getting credit on a timely fashion and not losing out on any.

there were some bad WUs in the database -- i had to remove all gs_373282. right now the server says there are many available WUs to download, so let me know if you're getting these and they're working.

thanks!

I've had a couple of comp errors and some that have gone thru and validated.