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1) Message boards : News : Award Badges Going Live Soon! (Message 77464)
Posted 30 May 2025 by nealburns5
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2) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77443)
Posted 21 May 2025 by nealburns5
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Did your testing tell you anything about the impact of different cache sizes? I'm curious to know the effect of X3D cpus from amd.

Neal
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77435)
Posted 18 May 2025 by nealburns5
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I think that the clock speed has a much bigger impact on power efficiency. High clock speeds are less efficient. So reducing the utilization could be beneficial to power efficiency.
Yes, high clock speeds are less efficient. That's why I don't let my Ryzen 5700G boost beyond 4 GHz manually via BIOS. The MT-tasks do not downclock your CPU, actually it can boost a lot more compared to other projects because it doesn't run into any limits as fast as on other projects. For maximum efficiency you want low clock and you want to use every cycle, not cores doing nothing part of the time at high clocks and voltages.


I've observed some odd behavior with the MT tasks. Going by the ratio of reported CPU time to wall clock time, it will often use 1 thread less than it's allowed. It might use around 12 threads on average when it's allowed 16, but if it's given 8 threads it will average 7.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77424)
Posted 15 May 2025 by nealburns5
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The kind of efficiency I care most about is power efficiency. If MT wastes power, then that matters to me.

It always does, the synchronisation between the threads is additional work. In addition to that, cores are not loaded 100%, there's lots of waiting, you can see that in task manager.


There shouldn't be a lot of overhead associated with multi-threading if each thread has its own hardware thread where it can just park.

I think that the clock speed has a much bigger impact on power efficiency. High clock speeds are less efficient. So reducing the utilization could be beneficial to power efficiency.

 

Have you determined the credit rate with an ST task running on every core vs the max number of MT tasks running concurrently?
Yes, runtimes and credits for 300 tasks of each were recorded and the credit per day calculated based on those tasks.


That's a valuable contribution. I just wanted to get to 5 million credits on this project. I'm going to go back to favoring bio/medicine projects.

Neal
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77419)
Posted 6 May 2025 by nealburns5
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The kind of efficiency I care most about is power efficiency. If MT wastes power, then that matters to me.

Have you determined the credit rate with an ST task running on every core vs the max number of MT tasks running concurrently?

Neal
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77409)
Posted 4 May 2025 by nealburns5
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Milkyway@home isn't my primary project, so I prefer short tasks. I noticed that Milkyway (mt) never hits 100% CPU utilization in windows task manager. However, you may get higher cache utilization from multithreading. It would be interesting if somebody ran MT and ST for a while and was able to compare the two.

Neal
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77406)
Posted 3 May 2025 by nealburns5
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I just noticed that a mt task has appeared on that computer.

Neal
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting MT tasks (Message 77404)
Posted 2 May 2025 by nealburns5
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One of my computers doesn't receive any mt tasks and I've tried everything I can think of. Almost all the single thread tasks take an extremely long time. More than 24 hours is much too long.

Any help is appreciated.

Neal




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