Posts by GolfSierra

1) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 74019) Posted 29 Jul 2022 by GolfSierra Post: Up and running. Tom fixed ist.
2) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 74010) Posted 28 Jul 2022 by GolfSierra Post: Server status page shows all is down except up/download server + scheduler.
3) Message boards : News : News General (Message 73660) Posted 23 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: If tweaking won't get us there, then perhaps a campaign to rebuild the whole MW@H infrastructure from the ground up might be in order. That's very extreme. Prolly gonna take a sugar daddy or 2 to fund it. Crowd funding could help with raising money for more capabable hardware, However, one enthusiastic manager like Tom Donlon is just not enough to handle the rebuilt of the MW software. We would need a team of 10 Donlons to do that.
4) Message boards : News : News General (Message 73651) Posted 22 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: befuddlement fix I love that word - hits the nail right on the head!
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73465) Posted 11 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: P.S. I see you've just replied to GolfSierra's reading suggestion :-) So I just hope you see this before you start wading through the 200+ messages; ah, well - I tried... Thanks for the wrap-up, Al.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73460) Posted 11 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: Greetings ... I have very many tasks marked as inconclusive ... on both computers recently ... what might be the cause of that? regards, Grzegorz Roman Granowski Greetings Grzegorz, I recommend to read this thread from the start.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73419) Posted 9 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: We will provide an update on the result of our efforts to resolve the issue Sunday evening. I predict if World Community Grid comes back on May 9th as it's scheduled that some of the people will go back to World Community Grid which will make the number of NBody work units to be validated take even longer Sunday evening passed by, no news. But the didn't say which Sunday ...
8) Message boards : News : Nbody WU Flush (Message 73410) Posted 8 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: Is that because you're bunkering like me? Those get annoyed (as does Primegrid) when I block their server with a firewall so the uploads wait until competition day. And what is the benefit of this? I don't see your point here.
9) Message boards : News : Nbody WU Flush (Message 73389) Posted 7 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: The current figures indicate, that there is something waaaayy wrong with the MW server setup: Tasks ready to sent : 12033635 N-Body: 12023834 Separation: 9843 I recommend to stop all servers, do a clean installation with config files that are not messed up by "adjustments" and "tweaks" and start all over again.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73354) Posted 6 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: I can tell you that my Validation Inconclusive has gone down by over 400 in the last 2 days and I still have another 14,306 that are still listed as Validation Inconclusive so it's going to take awhile to get my Validation Inconclusive down to 0.I predict if World Community Grid comes back on May 9th as it's scheduled that some of the people will go back to World Community Grid which will make the number of NBody work units to be validated take even longer +1
11) Message boards : News : Nbody WU Flush (Message 73285) Posted 4 May 2022 by GolfSierra Post: This project down, WCG still down, it sucks. BTW: I like people from Scotland, they are brave and honest but sometimes not politically correct - which is OK for me.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73089) Posted 23 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: 100% - that was sarcasm ... Relax and have a nice Sunday LOL, same to you!
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73087) Posted 23 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: Everything is working fine here on MW ... Well, almost 5 years ago you made similar observations: https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=4150&postid=66501 Has your view changed since then or did you just become reconciled to it?
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73070) Posted 22 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: Well, WCG over at Krembil announced that the restart was postponed to May 9, what a pity. Looks like I stay her for another couple of days.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73058) Posted 21 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: As long as the status of a task is "Validation inconclusive" there is obviously basically no credit awardable. True, and as Tom posted We cannot send out 2 or 3 WUs immediately, because (i) not every WU gets checked against wingmen, it will never happen. But I was told that this is standard.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73055) Posted 21 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: I have a little over 1000 tasks in the Validation inconclusive pile from March 20 to April 17 period. All the WUs were sent to me only and judging by "Didn't need" status they aren't going to be sent to anyone else. Does this mean all those results are getting discarded? Not pointing fingers or anything, just curious about what has happened and whether it works as intended or not. And did you receive any credits for them? I guess, no.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73048) Posted 20 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: deleted
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73043) Posted 20 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: We cannot send out 2 or 3 WUs immediately, because (i) not every WU gets checked against wingmen, Are you serious? How would you ever be able to verify if this single result returned is OK or wrong? To prove so, you need at least 3 returns for each WU. There is a very high chance that two identical results ar OK while a third one might differ, therefore wrong. One result can be wrong or OK, you'll never now. (ii) The process that oversees this is semi-random and based on the user's statistics (how often they return invalid WUs), so it cannot be determined ahead of time, This makes absolutely no sense. I'm talking about WU packages here (2 or more copies of the same WU sent out in parrallel). This has nothing to do with the clients/users statistic of invalid or timed out results. I don't mean that the same user should get the same WU double or triple times, I mean that a WU should be sent out in multiple copies to different users. and (iii) There is no guarantee that all of those WUs would get returned in a timely manner to be checked against each other, and we would often have to send out more WUs in addition to those initial 2 or 3 anyways. Right, for all results that don't make it in time this is true and standard, but there is a difference in the setup for MW NBody and MW separation WUs. Packages containing just one WU is only the case for NBody - which to me indicates a mis-configuration. MW separation tasks are sent out with two copies, 2 days apart. Why isn't this possible for NBody WUs?
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73039) Posted 20 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: The reason, as you surely know, is a disk crash a couple of weeks ago. So it will take a looong time to catch up ... Well, I disagree. To me it looks like the configuration is broken. For each WU created, a second copy should be sent out (at least a second, better 3) simultaneously as the default. For the time beeing, the server is popping out single WUs only - and that doesn't make sense to me, because it was not the way before the server trouble. So it's not just enough to replace the failed HDD with a backup but also the configuration scripts have to be checked and adjusted. This setup is not the normal way it should work.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 72991) Posted 19 Apr 2022 by GolfSierra Post: I took a closer look into my NBody WUs in progress and the WU that are listed as "validation inconclusive", which have added up to 3511 by now. All of those are WUs were only one copy has been sent by the server, the "wingman" WUs are listed as "unsent". My current NBody WUs in progress show three copies, e.g. one completed on 8 March, my WU (in progress) which was sent on 19 April, and one that was sent on 11 March and timed out 23 March. Looks like the server is sending out a second WU copy with a delay of at least 4-5 weeks, for whatever reason. This results in a huge amount of WUs shown with a copy marked as "unsent".

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