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Posts by GalaxyIce

1) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 53175)
Posted 14 Feb 2012 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Please join
2) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 51680)
Posted 12 Nov 2011 by Profile GalaxyIce
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please join us
3) Message boards : News : DOUBLE CREDITS Fundraiser - Request for Funding for MilkyWay@home (Message 50231)
Posted 19 Jul 2011 by Profile GalaxyIce
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No problem Newberg and Blurf, I\we love you anyway. :)

We definitely love you Simplex0 ;) I'm MW user of the day. Do I get double credits?

Yes, on Wednesday and Thursday.

Sounds great, but I wasn't crunching here during the summer and won't feel comfortable about taking the credits I didn't earn.


You can make a small donation, then you can take the double Credit and feel comfortable ;-)

Yes, of course I could. But I think my small donation of 100,000,000 credits to this project is comfort enough.
4) Message boards : News : DOUBLE CREDITS Fundraiser - Request for Funding for MilkyWay@home (Message 50226)
Posted 19 Jul 2011 by Profile GalaxyIce
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No problem Newberg and Blurf, I\we love you anyway. :)

We definitely love you Simplex0 ;) I'm MW user of the day. Do I get double credits?

Yes, on Wednesday and Thursday.

Sounds great, but I wasn't crunching here during the summer and won't feel comfortable about taking the credits I didn't earn.
5) Message boards : News : DOUBLE CREDITS Fundraiser - Request for Funding for MilkyWay@home (Message 50195)
Posted 18 Jul 2011 by Profile GalaxyIce
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No problem Newberg and Blurf, I\we love you anyway. :)

We definitely love you Simplex0 ;) I'm MW user of the day. Do I get double credits?
6) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Welcome to Me..Why thank you! (Message 45200)
Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Hello Sir Peeper. I'd shake a leg or they won't know which way you rattle. How's the shrubbery?
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Getting more than 18 work units at a time (Message 44832)
Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I assume with an i7 quad core with Hyper-Threading and 8 processing threads I would get 48 work units at one time.
8) Message boards : News : disk replacement and some slides (Message 44565)
Posted 2 Dec 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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My question;

You seem to imply that all GPU contribution was by ATI HD5870. I was under the impression that most of the early contribution came from ATI HD4850 and HD4870s and that the use of the ATI HD5870 was relatively new to the project. How much GPU contribution is currently from ATI HD4850/70 rather than HD5870?
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Aaargh! Server out of new work! (Message 44424)
Posted 29 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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feeder milkyway Not Running
transitioner milkyway Not Running
milkyway_purge milkyway Not Running
file_deleter milkyway Not Running
nbody_assimilator milkyway Not Running
separation_assimilator milkyway Not Running

Yes, back to normal I think
10) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU crunching - A few questions. (Message 44334)
Posted 27 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I've stopped trying to run any CPU Milkyway on any on my PCs despite being in a Milkyway competition. Most of my PCs are 'old' AND they all seem to drag out the finish time and I have aborted WUs despite having crunched in excess of 20 hours but creeping up to 50+ more to go. I used to be able to run Milkyway CPU WUs on these which certainly took less than 20 hours. Sorry I can't answer your questions and hope you find your answers so we can all run MW CPU WUs.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Aaargh! Server out of new work! (Message 44279)
Posted 26 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I take it you mean the American holiday yesterday with some Americans taking a day of vacation today (Friday) to make a four-day weekend ?

Or are we talking about the annual year end holidays in a month or so?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Aaargh! Server out of new work! (Message 44196)
Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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All my ATI cards are now getting 12 WUs and crunching two at a time, in hope that the Retupmoc competition continues. ...Until it all goes pear shaped again at which time they'll all be switching over to pear@shape again.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Aaargh! Server out of new work! (Message 44179)
Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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This is very bad timing with the Retupmoc Milky Way Challenge going on this week.

-Mike

Let me know if it gets going again. It's a little strange to be sitting around in the middle of a race.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Aaargh! Server out of new work! (Message 44161)
Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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They stopped work generation because there were duplicate assimilators running, which was messing up credit.

Yes, that was so. But since then they have reported a corrupt disk (which may have caused all the credit problems, so they say), and now they have stopped work generation to try and get the assimilator/validator to catch up.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Aaargh! Server out of new work! (Message 44124)
Posted 23 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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server is down for a while. and now BOINC challenge ongoing :(

Server is back up CTAPbIi and the challenge continues ... (until the server is down again)
16) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link VI (Message 44076)
Posted 22 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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luck
17) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting move!! (Message 43924)
Posted 17 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Like the title of this thread says, this was an interesting move!!
18) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link VI (Message 43860)
Posted 15 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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eleemosynary
19) Message boards : Number crunching : super charged? (Message 43748)
Posted 11 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I have to say that just a day or two before the triple stamps were on offer I decided I should get a few more credits in MilkyWay, get them up to a hundred million. I didn't exactly rush over here and neither did I have any other reason to point my ATI guns at MW than when I decided to point them at any other project. Perhaps I had some mystical intuition to bring me here just before the MW servers got so friendly. Perhaps they got friendly because I arrived here, having missed me so much. Who knows? I certainly didn't think I'd get to my hundred million so quickly.
20) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting move!! (Message 43644)
Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Few teams from Poland united to be one strong team. What didn't u understand? Its not illegal, its not violating any rules.

Not just a few teams from Poland my friend, but I have also now joined you from a UK team. I'm interesterd in helping you achieve your best ;)
21) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting move!! (Message 43624)
Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Few teams from Poland united to be one strong team. What didn't u understand? Its not illegal, its not violating any rules.

It's a good move and nothing for anyone to criticize Artur. As something very unusual to happen in BOINC I am interested to see how you do and wish you the very best.
22) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting move!! (Message 43618)
Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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It can certainly be slick to unite.
23) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link VI (Message 43198)
Posted 27 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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prairie
24) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link VI (Message 43124)
Posted 24 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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diamonds
25) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link VI (Message 43102)
Posted 23 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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on
26) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 42960)
Posted 19 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Why is it that Caprica continues to suck? Airing it late on Tuesdays is pretty much an admittance of we-know-this-show-sucks.

I still have no idea what Caprica is. Does it make a noise when it sucks?


I think Misfit is referring to "Battlestar Galactica". I don't know...Are you Misfit?

I know it's a show, haven't seen it.

All the shows I watched have been moved or switched times in the last 2 months. Even shows that were on for many years. I guess the channels want to put worse shows on.

I don't recall seeing it here in England on my cable TV. I remember when Battlestar Galactica first came out and remember thinking it was quite good.
27) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link VI (Message 42948)
Posted 18 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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allergy
28) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 42942)
Posted 18 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Why is it that Caprica continues to suck? Airing it late on Tuesdays is pretty much an admittance of we-know-this-show-sucks.

I still have no idea what Caprica is. Does it make a noise when it sucks?
29) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 42767)
Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Why is it that summer goes by so fast winter goes by so slowly?


It's all in the head ;)

Maybe, but I'm still convinced that policemen are getting younger.

So why is it that pigs can't fly? And why don't they make cat flaps the shape of a cat?
30) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 42741)
Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Why is it that summer goes by so fast winter goes by so slowly?
31) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 39319)
Posted 30 Apr 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Reach for the stars join sicituradastra


32) Message boards : Number crunching : Locking Up Moving From Milkyway to Collatz (Message 37696)
Posted 23 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I don't know how you have the patience to sit there waiting for caches to run dry before switiching to the other, especially if you have multiple boxes.

I have the problem that in some cases Milkyway can dominate the system so that mouse etc. run extremely slow, as Zydor describes, but as soon as I switch to Collatz everything whizzes again. So long as one or the other is running I don't really worry about it.

33) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 37680)
Posted 23 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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1,000,000,000 Combined BOINC ... :)

Well done PoorBoy. Sockit to 'em baby ;)
34) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 37253)
Posted 12 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Cry (Prince)

35) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Climate change (Message 37223)
Posted 11 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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It is that time of the year again.

That time to plant the seeds and hope for the best.
36) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Climate change (Message 37170)
Posted 10 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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It seems the frozen is thawing...
37) Message boards : Number crunching : more credits :) (Message 37113)
Posted 9 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Well, Everyone has his right to 15 mins. of disgrace...

And sending squick WU's to CPU and long WU's to GPU won't solve the problem. GPU systems present themselves as CPU only systems and voilà, there you go. Didn't GPU crunching took of for milkyway this way ?


well - any project opening the door for them cheaters has to face them - they simply cannot withstand to dismantle themselves..

"The heart of a cheater
is empty and hollow" - Unknown

"i dont think its wrong to cheat on games that are just on your computer somtimes it makes the game more enjoyable but online games are different because it affects others" - darkmeca
38) Message boards : Number crunching : more credits :) (Message 37102)
Posted 9 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I take what I am given in workunits be they short or long. If some people are filtering out the longer ones then I think that is unfair to the rest of us that are playing straight. :-(


It has never occured to me to pick and choose between WUs to get advantage and perhaps (even if only by default) disadvantage others or the project. But then so many tricks are played, I think it is disgraceful that nobody is telling me about them. A PM will do ;)
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Is it all about the GPU ? (Message 37100)
Posted 9 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I have GPU's that are all about the same which work the same in PCs with old/slow CPUs as well as even older/slower PCs. I can't comment on Intel i7 920 quad with multithreading since I don't have any, but I'm getting stacks of credits with my GPUs with the older cores that I have.
40) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 37020)
Posted 7 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Pink Floyd - Mother

41) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 37018)
Posted 7 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Sea

42) Message boards : Number crunching : How high will it go? (Message 37017)
Posted 7 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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If you go to your MW Boincstats page, down the bottom is a table showing, among other things, the actual number of rocks you've got for each of the last 30 days.

Hmmmm, it shows I am steadily increasing the credits I put out every day, but steadily going down in world ranking. Maybe I need to roll as well as rock ;)
43) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in/navigator (Message 36943)
Posted 4 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I've renamed the 'blinks' resource to 'navigator'

http://3rd.in/navigator
44) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 36893)
Posted 2 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
45) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 36881)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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hotel
46) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36874)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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80 billion credits for Milkyway.

Come on kevint, keep up ;)

47) Message boards : Number crunching : Setting is for only GPU tasks, am getting CPU tasks (Message 36872)
Posted 1 Mar 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Unfortunately, there is an error someplace and I am still, on occasion, getting MW CPU side tasks.

They are the same tasks and can be run on either cpu or gpu.

I know the tasks are the same. But, I am not interested in using my CPU time on MW or Collatz in that I can get far more production on the GPU. So, I have the server side settings set to no CPU tasks... yet I still see them issued against my desires...

And that is the point ...

There is little utility in having a setting that is ignored. Even if the ignoring happens only on occasion.

That occasion could be costly if the unwanted CPU MW/Collatz WUs jump in and stop other WUs from completing on time and result in wasted work with loss of credit. I too would rather have control of what's going on and prefer not to see the random activity that can take place in BOINC manager.
48) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 36838)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Don't forget that the 3rd.in site not only helps you to navigate through your optimized apps needs here at MilkyWay, but also has links to optimized apps resources at others sites, as well as links to help you navigate around BOINC more generally.

Please try it out, it's free for all to use.
49) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36837)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Here to post my little, little first milestone: 10.000 credits in this project ;-)

But I'll grow more...

Greetings!

The Dreamer

Congratulations! (to an astra from an astrum ;)
50) Message boards : Number crunching : Limiting GPU usage (Message 36832)
Posted 27 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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For ATI GPUs maybe you can try to use the Catalyst Control Center to slow things down.
51) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36828)
Posted 27 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Legs eleven; 111,000,000


52) Message boards : Number crunching : Limiting GPU usage (Message 36827)
Posted 27 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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*bump*

I would like to know too, if and how it might be possible to lower the load on the GPU? Im working on my PC and the input lag is very annoying. Thx in advance for any help!

The only way I know is to suspend any projects using GPU. In this case it will also suspend any MW CPU WUs, so I just kick off my usual CPDN 'backup' WUs. (When I come to restart MW I don't have to worry about finishing off any 'backup' WUs and running out of time on them since CPDN WUs have no time limits.)
53) Message boards : Number crunching : Odds and Sods (Message 36824)
Posted 27 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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One for Ice:
http://www.gocomics.com/eek/2010/02/03/

Ha ha, I nearly missed that one, very good :)
54) Message boards : Number crunching : No usable GPU (Message 36823)
Posted 27 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Many thanks for the tips. Yes cenit I always check the protected mode installation is not set thanks, and yes PoorBoy I tried different driver versions including the driver rollback feature.

The problem was not software but mechanical. Over time the pressure of the main power supply connector against the fan on the GPU, positioned right against each other, had caused the fan to slow down and even stop. Some of fan blades were even partly worn. I had to remove the fan from the GPU and re-position it slightly to stop the abraison occuring.

It's now crunching again on the GPU, thanks again for the help.
55) Message boards : Number crunching : No usable GPU (Message 36795)
Posted 26 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I have a 4850 which has been running in a PC for a year now, and boinc manager now tells me there is no usable GPU. The drivers seem to be fine and Catalyst Control Center works as if a GPU is there. I have uninstalled and reinstalled drivers, CCC and boinc manager 6.10.18 which still says there is no usable GPU. Any ideas?
56) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 36558)
Posted 15 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Are any of you boys offering stock options, a decent pension and/or company car ?

Alternatively I'm open to a decent sized golden handshake :-D

You get to be president, get to live longer and we'll let you hold the golden balls. In fact if you join PBToyz you get to accomplish a certain number of things. Enough that you will be so far behind that you will never die. What other team can offer you that?

Sorry, no stock, pensions or cars; just help and advice in the best forum and a team that Is relatively new and is motoring up the ranks like no other. ;)


join PBToyz


Oh, and you get a chocolate star. Stars don't belong to any one team as they may claim. PBToyz is the only rising star team right now ;)
57) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36548)
Posted 14 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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About to hit a RAC of 200,000. Now accumulating over 6 million credits a month (more if MW gets going).

LOL..It's still a long way to the top for bragging rights.

This project has made a joke out of the stats.


I agree, stats based on the BOINC core client model can be compared, but if you are using an optimized app for a project, then you are apples and oranges. The science is getting done, sure, but to lump those credits in with other projects that do not use an optimised app makes that whole credit issue meaningless.

It's like Conan says, doing my bit for science. It's not about credits, but about doing science in different projects, or just one project. Congrats to all milestoners, and anyone proud of the credit they achieve which reflects their contribution to science ;)


Yes, you are doing your bit for SCIENCE, but you are also doing it for CREDITS. Otherwise you would not have posted your accomplishments here in this thread, and your signiture wouldn't be showing how much you have done.

OK, I get the message. You think the credits are meaningless and I get a kick out of putting them in my signature to celebrate how much I am achieving for science.
58) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36530)
Posted 14 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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About to hit a RAC of 200,000. Now accumulating over 6 million credits a month (more if MW gets going).

LOL..It's still a long way to the top for bragging rights.

This project has made a joke out of the stats.


I agree, stats based on the BOINC core client model can be compared, but if you are using an optimized app for a project, then you are apples and oranges. The science is getting done, sure, but to lump those credits in with other projects that do not use an optimised app makes that whole credit issue meaningless.

It's like Conan says, doing my bit for science. It's not about credits, but about doing science in different projects, or just one project. Congrats to all milestoners, and anyone proud of the credit they achieve which reflects their contribution to science ;)
59) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36504)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I'd also like to send love kisses and Valentines roses to all milestoners.


60) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 36495)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Are any of you boys offering stock options, a decent pension and/or company car ?

Alternatively I'm open to a decent sized golden handshake :-D

You get to be president, get to live longer and we'll let you hold the golden balls. In fact if you join PBToyz you get to accomplish a certain number of things. Enough that you will be so far behind that you will never die. What other team can offer you that?

Sorry, no stock, pensions or cars; just help and advice in the best forum and a team that Is relatively new and is motoring up the ranks like no other. ;)


join PBToyz
61) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 36474)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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We have our stars just like any other team, but PBToyz
shines brighter and we are burning cobblestones like no other!

Join us and be part of something new and exciting ;)



This advert was placed by iPhone, my own Toyz helping me to Plenty Boinc.

Plenty Boinc with your Toyz - join PBToyz ;)
62) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 36460)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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63) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 36442)
Posted 12 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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64) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 36402)
Posted 10 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Another facepalm;


65) Message boards : Number crunching : We need WUs please! (Message 36395)
Posted 10 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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After sitting idle for a few hours I ran over to Collatz for about 12 hours worth of work. I guess I'll get MW work when the Collatz finish

D'oh! Why didn't I think of that while I had the chance?!?! I just allowed new work but didn't stock up before the hoards scrambled over to Collatz... >:(

I'm scrambling right after you ritterm..... except I already had a good cache at Colatz which has been nicely topped up scramble or no ;)
66) Message boards : Number crunching : Now that wasn't a nice thing to do. (Message 36309)
Posted 7 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Mine was also set to GPU only, BUT I was still getting CPU tasks?? Me thinks something is not right?? I've changed my settings back to where I want them.
Lets hope it works ok, so far so good.
;-p

I prefer to have my GPUs active. Quite recently I noiced a PC where all 12 GPU tasks were sitting there doing nothing, with Collatz on suspend and nothing there to stop them. I tried 'update' and got the message that 12 was my limit, but still no GPU activity. So I aborted the 12, it downloaded 12 more and started the GPU crunch. Not sure how long the original 12 were sitting there, but at least it's whirring away again.
67) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36300)
Posted 6 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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96th to get 100,000,000 in BOINC


68) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 36297)
Posted 6 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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hello
69) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36277)
Posted 5 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Posting from my Blackberry.

In fact, I have used it for changing project prefs from my hunting stand last November.

Do I love technology...

I have to say that I use my iPhone far more for surfing the web and these boards than using it toake calls/texts. The technolgy is indeed fantastic and a true toyz I can't leave alone.
70) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36268)
Posted 5 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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100,000,000 credits in total

71) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36240)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Well done Bruce. A 100,000,000 overall coming up for me any time this century.
72) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36214)
Posted 2 Feb 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I've reached an overall RAC of 500,000 for the first time this week.
73) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 36181)
Posted 31 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Alan

74) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36180)
Posted 31 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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UltraVNC supports Vista and Win7. Using & works great. You could try installing ultravnc on vista comp and then try viewing with tightvnc or some other vnc client.

I'm trying to view my remote PCs on an iPhone. It's working fine for my XP PCs, but I've not managed a connection to my Vista laptop. It tells me on my iPhone that the password is incorrect (which is incorrect) and I wondered if anyone had managed to get a Vista connection from an iPhone.

While I was in line waiting to buy tickets for the cinema tonight, I connected to all my PCs at home (except for this one Vista laptop) and kick started FreeHal on them all, whilst checking that MW WUs were still running. I even remembered to turn off the mobile for the film. (Meryl Streep was as excellent as she gets in It's Complicated)

75) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 36166)
Posted 31 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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eyes


76) Message boards : Number crunching : reached daily quota of 1646 tasks (Message 36156)
Posted 30 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I've got this box crunching MW again, but using the Anonymous platform 20b.

It seems that the automatically downloaded v0.21 (ati13ati) left it chewing up the WUs. Whilst the automatically downloaded app is working perfectly OK on my other boxes, even though I've managed to upgrade some of them from Catalyst 8.12, this particlar box was chewing WUs with "Error while computing" with v0.21 (ati13ati).
77) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36155)
Posted 30 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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120 million on MW.

Well done Berserk_Tux.

I'm on 70 mill now.
78) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36151)
Posted 30 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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PBToyz is now 5th on RAC in Milkyway with just a few members (just now) racing up the ranks.

Congrats to PBToyz and all MileStoners ... :)

79) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36125)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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>any tips or tricks to help out?
XP install disc. :)

I wish. I really do. I'm still looking for drivers even if HP say it can't be done.
80) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36124)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Posted via android.

Thankyou ;)

Edited by android

Replied to by iPhone. Any Nexus One want to join in? ;)
81) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36121)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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This is is my first post on a BOINC forum on an iPhone. Posting on a mobile - rock an' roll ;)


I've made more than a couple posts in these forums from my iPhone too :D

So will I when I make one more post ;~p

82) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36107)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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This is is my first post on a BOINC forum on an iPhone. Posting on a mobile - rock an' roll ;)
83) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 36106)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Very disappointed :( - I thought you had got milkyway working on the iPhone. - LOL

Yeah VNC and Vista's anal UAC don't play ball. Have you considered an RDP client instead ?


I have it working with my Win XP boxes a treat. I can access all my PCs (except for the one Vista) remotely and have some decent console controls with the Jaadu iPhone app. It takes getting used to zooming in and out on a small screen, but then it's in my pocket wherever I go.

If I see a post while at work saying MilkyWay is down, or whatever, I don't have to wait until I get home to do some boinc managing on each of my PCs at home ;)
84) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36097)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A pittance compared to you some of the big farmers out there but I now have a respectable 10 mill MW. ;)

Throttling down for a bit to recover from a layoff though. :(

10 mill is good. We see eye to eye on that ;)
85) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36085)
Posted 27 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Here's another milestone for PoorBoy;

Number 1 in the Top 100 multi-project BOINC participants

PoorBoy is contributing 49,821 GFLOPS

Well done PoorBoy!

(I'm managing to stay in the top 100 at 73 with 3,973 GFLOPS)
86) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in/navigator (Message 36065)
Posted 26 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
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This is a web page with some BOINC related links that I made. All the code is mine, from my own website so no adware or anything hidden, just the links and images to help. (Adverts so that I get it hosted for free.)

http://3rd.in/blinks

You may find it useful when looking for BOINC links. Please feel free to use it. I hope to update it if time permits. Please feel free to send me any links that you think are useful for this page. Thanks.
87) Message boards : Number crunching : reached daily quota of 1646 tasks (Message 36063)
Posted 26 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You must have had some wu's error out.

Yes, either that or some problem with that particular PC. I've got it crunching GPU Collatz for now and will keep an eye on it.

88) Message boards : Number crunching : reached daily quota of 1646 tasks (Message 36042)
Posted 25 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
25/01/2010 18:47:11 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
25/01/2010 18:47:11 Milkyway@home Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1646 tasks)

I've either stepped up my crunching, reached an all time record, or something is stopping me getting work.

89) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 36028)
Posted 24 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Congrats to all MileStoners ... :)

Proud Member of the PBToyz BOINC Team & Holder of the #1 Combined BOINC RAC in the World, Come get me if you Dare ... :)


Never mind about that, just sort that crunching out. We have a team to get into the top 5.

Well done Mr PoorBoy sir ;)
90) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Furya (Message 36020)
Posted 24 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
ho hum...I thought Riddick was one of the last Furyans

The Lord Marshal was only interested in killing male Furyans.
91) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.10.29 released (Message 36010)
Posted 24 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Almost every project message board is full with your ALPHA BOINC posts, which do not belong here or elsewhere at all, except the boinc alpha test or boinc message board.

I don't look into too many boards and this is just one thread in this board which I could ignore or, as I find useful, to look into. I may not contribute much to the tecnical posts in this or other borads, but I sure do read a lot of them and I do so because I find them useful and interesting.

I hope MarkJ continues to post this useful info here and I doubt if I ever will have the time or 'that' much technical interest to seek it out in the boinc message board if he doesn't.
92) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 35984)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Congrats to our team PBToyz

who have leap up 20748 places within the last month to position 54 in boincstats

Awesome !!!
Here's a smilie for PBToyz that I made myself;
93) Message boards : Number crunching : iPhone (Message 35977)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've managed to get my iPhone to VNC to my home PCs so that I can remote control the BOINC mangers for each. Very useful it is to. But still wrestling to get a link to my Vista laptop. Anyone have any tips or tricks to help out?

94) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 35976)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


maggots

95) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Furya (Message 35975)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Furya is a planet in popular sci-fi.

A Furyan is someone who is from Furya.

Just in case anyone was feeling confused.

Ukraine is the biggest country in Europe. Even bigger than Germany or France.

A Ukrainian is someone who is from Ukraine, or whose parents are from Ukraine.

Just in case anyone was feeling confused.

Toyz are .....

You really should know this one.

96) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 35935)
Posted 22 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well then, I've managed to VNC my little iPhone from my local pub to my PCs at home.

Remote control of my little boincers. Hell that's just amazing!

97) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment III (Message 35897)
Posted 21 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Join my team.

Get a toy and VNC from your iPhone. I'd recommend it, as well as joining my team.

That's the way to Boinc, aha aha, and the way to like it.

Be different and dare. Oh yea.

98) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 35856)
Posted 20 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
200,000,000 here @ Milkyway & 300,000,000 @ Collatz all in the same week ... :)

Congrats from me and my iPhone. I can post on this amazing little device, but can I crunch with it to catch you up?
99) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 35590)
Posted 13 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fascinating,
And was it worth it?

You'd be fascinated if you watched Pitch Black.

Rahda Mitchell will do that. Hell.

Yes, Fry will do that even as she crash lands. But it wasn't pitch black then. Hell no.

Amber Heard. Hell.

406 is no zombie clown. Hell no.
100) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 35189)
Posted 8 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

secrets and lies

101) Message boards : Number crunching : Milky Way, Project unfriendly..... (Message 35171)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And yet we hear of an entrenched head in the sand attitude to proffered advice.

Maybe the acadmics don't want the proffered advice. They're not likely to get their doctorates by copying all the ATI stuff that already works. They have to rediscover all the pitfalls and put us all the the wringer again, surely?
102) Message boards : Number crunching : Milky Way, Project unfriendly..... (Message 35148)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Weird, looks like I'm back to my old self again.

I'll agree that you're usually weird if that helps.
103) Message boards : Number crunching : Odds and Sods (Message 35111)
Posted 6 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
For Ice/Furyan - how to do it properly :)
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/05/avatar-makeup-tutori.html

You're just jelous that I discovered the film and stills to use for my avatar/profile many months ago way before you. It's probably the best avatar/signature/profile combination going in BOINC right now, even though I still prefer Fosters.

104) Message boards : Number crunching : Milky Way, Project unfriendly..... (Message 35110)
Posted 6 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... which is why there is more than one project. Just choose one that suits you.

Just the one? I'm doing three right now. How many are you doing right now?

Oh, and yes, I'm definitely too sexy for my T shirts. Blah blah blah.

BTW I am complely stopping all crunching for BOINC. But like others I will just blah blah blah and carry on.

105) Message boards : Number crunching : Milky Way, Project unfriendly..... (Message 35099)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

no, right said...


106) Message boards : Number crunching : Creating/Editing Profile (Message 35055)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My profile cannot display. and my friend is also similar.
userid=22651, userid=22890, userid=22651, userid=8440

"create" is clicked.
http://www.diana.dti.ne.jp/~rhirano/01.jpg
Profile edit screen
http://www.diana.dti.ne.jp/~rhirano/02.jpg
"Create/edit profile" is clicked.
http://www.diana.dti.ne.jp/~rhirano/03.jpg
"Profile saved" Display.
http://www.diana.dti.ne.jp/~rhirano/04.jpg
When I click "View your profile".
Then,,,,
My profile was Not renewed.
http://www.diana.dti.ne.jp/~rhirano/05.jpg

Applying BBcode tags to this post by hirano@wakasu-zenkai ;

My profile cannot display. and my friend is also similar.
userid=22651, userid=22890, userid=22651, userid=8440

"create" is clicked.

Profile edit screen

"Create/edit profile" is clicked.

"Profile saved" Display.

When I click "View your profile".
Then,,,,
My profile was Not renewed.


107) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy New Year! (Message 35023)
Posted 2 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

hmmm


108) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : UOTD for New Years Day 2010 (Message 35013)
Posted 1 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hey whatever mój przyjaciel, my sa wszyscy jêzyk polski tutaj.

Another of my threads crapped, thanks buddy.

109) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : UOTD for New Years Day 2010 (Message 34997)
Posted 1 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We all know who is UOTD here, who always was and likely to be indefinitely, but elsewhere it gets changed on a daily basis.

I'm UOTD for the first day for 2010 in AQUA

Any other UOTD for 1 Jan 2010 ?


110) Message boards : Number crunching : MW Preferences are Gone! (Message 34995)
Posted 1 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've changed my profile OK

A superior profile needs no changing.

All energy is only borrowed; at some point you have to return it.

I see you...

111) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy New Year! (Message 34994)
Posted 1 Jan 2010 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
happy new year - farsælt komandi ár


112) Message boards : Number crunching : MW Preferences are Gone! (Message 34984)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've changed my profile OK

113) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy New Year! (Message 34956)
Posted 31 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



114) Message boards : Number crunching : my workunits are all marked invalid... (Message 34934)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi It looks like every work unit I did yesterday before the server shut down has been marked as invalid. Also all the W/U done this morning also are invalid. What is going on? Did I lose all those W/U?


I was having some problems getting the new assimlator debugged with the upgraded server software. All new WUs should be fine (once we get them sent out again).

This is invalid; de_s222_3s_best_1p_03r_010_7932_1262157625

It was sent after your last post 30 Dec 2009 7:24:43 UTC
Received by MW 6 hours later 30 Dec 2009 13:41:16 UTC

Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)

Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 16.5299569884819
Granted credit 0


115) Message boards : Number crunching : MW Preferences are Gone! (Message 34933)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I still dont have a profile, no matter how many times I try to save it. The profile will not save, it tells me it has saved my profile, then when I try to view my profile it tells me I dont have one!I have not tried to do anything with my preferences so not sure if they are affected.
;-(

Ah, I've just PMd Travis about a similar problem that someone in BOINC@MIXI is having. He and at least another are having this problem. What they are saying is that when they click the "Create/edit profile" button, it displays ;

>Profile saved
>Congratulations! Your profile was successfully entered into our database.

However, when then then click "View your profile" they get the messages;

>Unable to handle request
>This user has no profile

When they return to their profile screen, the "View profile" does not display, but "Create" as if the profile was never created.

They have thried with IE and Google chrome, but no luck.

116) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 34911)
Posted 30 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
lazy painter


117) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 34873)
Posted 27 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fascinating,
And was it worth it?

You'd be fascinated if you watched Pitch Black.


Rahda Mitchell will do that. Hell.

Yes, Fry will do that even as she crash lands. But it wasn't pitch black then. Hell no.

118) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 34848)
Posted 26 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If we rolled the folm backwards to the Big Bang, would the thread title be "leave...raise Hell...Arrive"? And, is this thread entangled with any t=other thread; i.e., spooky action at a distance?

It's just something I saw on a T shirt. Nothing for anyone to get freaky about. Just stuff I see on T shirts. Everything Is Illusion - Except For Chocolate. Arrive, Raise Hell, Leave. Stuff like that.
119) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 34840)
Posted 25 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Cool. Cool. Good to hear. So, things are getting along a-ok, then?

Sure, my eyes are alight with delight.

120) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Christmas!!! (Message 34839)
Posted 25 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Happy Christmas, Ice.

It's happy so far Moon, hope it is for you and your family.

121) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Christmas!!! (Message 34827)
Posted 24 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Happy crunching over the Christmas holidays!



122) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 34815)
Posted 24 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fascinating,
And was it worth it?

You'd be fascinated if you watched Pitch Black.

123) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Christmas!!! (Message 34753)
Posted 21 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nollaig Shona




124) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Christmas!!! (Message 34743)
Posted 20 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



125) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 34736)
Posted 20 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

SETI (as in, listening to)


126) Message boards : Number crunching : Deadline problem (Message 34729)
Posted 20 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I had a go at running a MW on a small netbook with an Intel Atom with processor capability to run two WU's at once. It seems it will take around 30 hours to complete them. This is OK for the 2 or 3 days given to complete, but not practical for me since this is not a 24/7 hour device; it's just turned on occassionally when needed.

It probably also depends on what is done with the netbook, ie, does it do BOINC and nothing ele. This is not the case for this netbook and unfortunately it looks like MW is not the appropriate project for this device (which it may have been when the WUs were much smaller).
127) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34719)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks "Furyan" I really need those old app in some cards, thanks again!

You're welcome, and thanks for letting me know that you can get to the site OK.

128) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Christmas!!! (Message 34714)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Christmas Calendar

December 21 . . . December 22 . . . December 23 . . . December 24 . . . December 25



December 26 . . . December 27 . . . December 28 . . . December 29 . . . December 30



December 31 . . . January 01 . . . . January 02 . . . . January 03 . . . . January 04


129) Message boards : Number crunching : need more time to do the work (Message 34712)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ugh, the crashing. Climate Prediction gives HUGE WU's but gives more than a year to complete. Unfortunately, it ends up "computation error" more often than not.

CPDN has it's advantages. You still get credit if WUs don't complete, by crashing or being forgetten about in bottom drawers with the moth balls. But they have one huge advatage in that if you have a PC without internet connection you can leave it crunching away for months on end without any food, air, sunlight or companionship. Hopefully when you peek in on them after a while they haven't died and left you without a will...

130) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 34710)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


rain


131) Message boards : Number crunching : need more time to do the work (Message 34706)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In the academic world, there is a saying 'Publish, or perish'. In the computing world its 'Upgrade, or perish'.

I expect that's true in some cases. When I started out in BOINC it was with BBC Climate, and that's all there was because a WU took 6 to 12 months to complete, or never if you tried to run another project.

You guys just don't know how easy you have it. A WU crashing after 4 months was devasting. We got the credit for the partly completed WU, but we wanted to finish them. After months of crunching on one WU all we wanted to do was to complete it.

So we took much longer to finish it, because every day we would stop BOINC and back the whole thing up, and restart. When the WU crashed, as they did from time to time when you ran another program on your PC, or played a game or something which crashed the thing. So we had to do a restore, and re-crunch up to a day, again, each time it crashed.

So give Matt a break, stop basking in technology and let everyone take part. Not just those who make a habit of spending a fortune on the lastest IT and suggest that BOINC is built only for those with IT rich PCS and GPU accessories.

132) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34696)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

3rd.in optimized apps site is up and running.


133) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 34691)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


tea for two

134) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34687)
Posted 19 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



This thread has now received over 40,000 views.

135) Message boards : Number crunching : Network in slow motion (Message 34613)
Posted 17 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been having a problem with my network at home which I hope someone can help.

What is happening is that when I resume with Milkyway my boinc managers go deadly slow. It's a real pain to try and manage them. When I suspend ATI Milkyway and resume ATI Collatz on them, it all speeds up again.

It's been fine for ages until recently. Does anyone else get this?

I'm on 10M broadband (9.87Mb/s down, 0.49Mb/s up) with ethernet through a wireless router and then wired through another switch to 6 PCs. The wireless laptops on the network are fine, but they don't do Milkyway.
136) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 34606)
Posted 17 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


80,000,000 credits, plus whatever disappeared.


137) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34588)
Posted 16 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A thank you to Cluster Physik and his team who helped test the CPU and ATI GPU apps has been moved here;

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1280&nowrap=true#34586


138) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34580)
Posted 16 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks for the update.

At the end of the day it is your site and your time and effort put in to host the optimised apps and it is your perogative to do what you like with those sites.

I suppose once MW updates the server side the optimised apps hosting will not be required.

No, it's not just my time and effort. It is the effort of those that produced the apps, who tested them for the author who did not have an ATI card, who tested them as fit and acceptable to Travis, and who got documented agreement from Travis that these op apps would not be rejected after people started to buy the ATI cards, and for me who helped to make the op apps readily available to you all, and made the updates easy to find and for you to apply as and when they came out.

Don't forget that too easily when you say all of that is not required.
139) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34558)
Posted 15 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Let's recap shall we, for those who may not know what this popular thread is about.

At the beginning of this year 2009 I provided a site to host the optimized applications produced by Gipsel/Cluster Physik and team Planet 3DNow! This was called zslip.com. which I announced last summer with two months notice that it was to expire, which it did in November 2009. I'm sorry even my funds are finite and I always said I bought this .com for an invention that never took off but made it available to Milkyway until it expired.

I made sure I had permission from Gipsel/Cluster Physik to host these apps, and in fact asked him to give me permission for each update out of courtesy to his work and the team at Planet 3DNow! who carried out the pre-publication testing.

I was also careful not to intimate in any way that the apps were my own work - I was merely hosting them. It said so on zslip.com

When zslip.com expired I temporarilly found a place for the apps on another of my sites, brilliatsite.com. For whatever reason I now don't wish to host any BOINC stuff on brilliantsite.com, and am in the process of moving BOINC off that domain.

I hope to use another one of my sites, 3rd.in

I really do not have any idea what that password is, but don't expect anyone will need it since I will simply remove the security once 3rd.in/milkyway is up and running.
140) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quotes and Sayings (Message 34556)
Posted 15 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Careful, you may find what you're digging for.

The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury
141) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34551)
Posted 15 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
>Furyan
The name is new but the face is familiar...

What's in a name but that in a signature?

Plus you were automatically registered as one of my friends without any communication being entered into.

Heaven help you if your founder decides to change the name of your team and you all suddenly belong to a team you never registered with.
142) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 34550)
Posted 15 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


under


143) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 34535)
Posted 14 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If I owned this place and Hell, I'd rent this place out and live in Hell.
144) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 34534)
Posted 14 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

That's a pretty good picture there Dune Finkleberry. Never mind about the stretch, the only sorrow will be if someone deletes that fine picture.

145) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : England win the Ashes! (Message 34533)
Posted 14 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Winners learn from the past but often revert to the losers they were in the past.

I'm winning. 80 billion cricket bails ready to burn for ash.

146) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quotes and Sayings (Message 34532)
Posted 14 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

They say most of your brain shuts down in cryosleep.

All but the primitive side.

All but the Furyan side.

147) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 34527)
Posted 14 Dec 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I believe that the optimized apps are now hosted here: 3rd.in

I'll let you know the password when I can remember it.
148) Message boards : Number crunching : Where are the opti aps now?? (Message 33996)
Posted 30 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Where are the opti aps now?? The site they were on is down now.

Thanks,

ganja

Appears to be up to me.

http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway/


I'm afraid I've been hit by the credit crunch like many others and have had to consolidate all my web sites into a few. www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway/ is now my offering to to this project to host a copy of the optimized apps. You can also use this short url; [url=bit.ly/bsapz ]

149) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33974)
Posted 30 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Does crunching MW CPU with op apps give me more credits than AQUA, yes or no?

Does MW op app CPU in fact have the ribbon, not AQUA?



Again, it absolutely does not matter.

For baseline comparisons, you can not compare a third party optimized app with a project vanilla non-optimized app. Not only is it non-scientific, it is just dumb.
In fact, what is even more dumb than that, is comparing credits of any project against any other project. Cross project parity is a socialists point of view.

(but if you must - yes Aqua-64 bit still grants higher credit per hour than MW/CPU-Opti app- don't believe me, test it for yourself)

And again, the MW opt app or even the GPU app for that matter does not give more credits than the production app, it only allows us to crunch the WU's faster, credit per WU is the same. Credits here are fixed.


OK, it absolutely DOES matter. It does matter if I get more credits per hour on MW 32 bit than on AQUA since credit PER HOUR is the measure I use to decide whether my computers are most efficiently used on MW or on AQUA.

It is not dumb for me to try and find out and it is not scientific for you to muddy this information with your nonsensical benchmarking which does not help me to decide which project to utilise my low end 32 bit worn out computers.

150) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33963)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Given that, MW is not the highest paying project. That ribbon currently goes to Aqua or Primgrid/64 bit apps


Good point, if you cut out the app that is producing XX% (insert unknown but suspected high number) of the credits on the project you are quite right.

Now we're getting somewhere. I can do A or B. One or the other.

If I do A = CPU AQUA, will I get more credits than B = CPU MW with optimised app ?

I can do A or B on my computer. Which gives me the more credits ?
151) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33961)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Stock CPU app vs Stock CPU app. Any third party optimizations(unless adopted by the project at large) remain outside the baseline credit comparison charts.

Given that, MW is not the highest paying project. That ribbon currently goes to Aqua or Primgrid/64 bit apps


None of us are going to crunch stock CPU MW since there is an MW op app that gives far more credits.

Which is faster, stock CPU Aqua or optimized CPU MW ?



Absolutely does not matter, baseline benchmarks should be based on baseline apps. And credit "should" be based on this benchmark. If you truly want some stupid lame cross project parity reached.

Stock Aqua, against Stock MW.. Aqua would be higher paying.

Does not matter if people use the stock app here or not, the stock app is the one distributed by the project, and credit should be based solely on the stock app.

And you might be surprised how many do crunch with just the stock app. In most cases, these would be the people that don't visit the message boards. They just attach and let it run. I have several friends that crunch just that way, and yes, they are using the stock-non optimized app.
So your comment of "None of us" is a just a little bit short sighted. IMO.


And the biggest thing you are mistaken about, the optimized app does not "gives far more credits" it just runs the same WU's faster. It does not give more credit per WU.

I wasn't asking about benchmarks or what you prefer to compare to what. Which is going to give more credits. Optimized CPU MW or CPU AQUA?

Given that, MW is not the highest paying project. That ribbon currently goes to Aqua or Primgrid/64 bit apps


Does crunching MW CPU with op apps give me more credits than AQUA, yes or no?

Does MW op app CPU in fact have the ribbon, not AQUA?
152) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33953)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



60 million in Milkyway, still hoping to retire at 65, but looking for a lottery win so I don't have to ;)


61 million, and counting....

153) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33951)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Stock CPU app vs Stock CPU app. Any third party optimizations(unless adopted by the project at large) remain outside the baseline credit comparison charts.

Given that, MW is not the highest paying project. That ribbon currently goes to Aqua or Primgrid/64 bit apps


None of us are going to crunch stock CPU MW since there is an MW op app that gives far more credits.

Which is faster, stock CPU Aqua or optimized CPU MW ?
154) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 33948)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Cranberries - Zombie
155) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33947)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


shape

156) Message boards : Number crunching : "Team" software problem (???) (Message 33938)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We need to know. i dont like sitting Idle.

Yes ...

you should already be attached to other projects ...

... use your Resource share higher on your favorite projects and micromanage as best as you can :P
157) Message boards : Number crunching : Maybe, Such a (super) Super Computer is not needed.. (Message 33937)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I remember a tale that a scientist was asked what the benefit of his
research was and he replied "What is the benefit of a new born child?"

My hope is that the information gathered in many different projects here can
be used as steps that can evolve in major brake trough in the future.

Now that's a hope that I entirely agree with and it would probably be the prime reason why I participate. Without research we humans are never going to get out there and populate the universe, and more importantly, discover all the wonderful things waiting for us out there ;)

158) Message boards : Number crunching : Closing Down Digital Recon Team (Message 33925)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As of this morning the team Digital Recon will be no longer.

I have been doing the Boinc thing for more than 5 years now and I guess that I have done my fair share for science.

But with a heavy heart and good memories, I am also closing down all of my computers on boinc. It would seem that with my new company that I am starting, I have found that I no longer have the time. To those of you who I have come to know as friends, we will still talk from time to time. And to those who have come to hate me, well I guess that just won't change.

To each of you who have the fever of crunching, Kudos to you. But my fever for it is no longer.

Take care.

Dr. Dan T. Morris

aka Starman

Dan, whatever differences may have arisen between us, you are under any circumstances a pretty good bloke as we say here in England, and I regret that it seems to be all or nothing for you. I hope to see you continue to contribute to BOINC in any way you wish and hope to see you around these forums still.

All the best mate.

Cheers, Ice
159) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33915)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains,
rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is
loyalty to that principle.

- George William Curtis

160) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 33910)
Posted 29 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Projects should ALWAYS have a CPU option, or I'm the first one outta here.


There is one project that is high end GPU only and that is GPUGRID.

Exactly my point. I don't crunch GPUGRID any more since they made it high end GPU, as opposed to a lesser requirement prevously which my onboard laptop NVIDIA GPU could handle (ie, not bought in and not bolted in just to run BOINC). And LOL or not, make Milkyway@home GPU only and I'm outta here. This drive to satisfy high end crunchers and suggestions that CPU crunching is getting in the way is not for me.

As I said "If a project wants to do anything they like with their app, alienating a subset of crunchers along the way, I don't think the loss would be felt all that much." Which for you and me is a case in point. I don't think the loss of 2 low end GPUs hurt them in the slightest...or even 20 or 30.

Yes. Of course you are right. We can come and go by choice, and they can do as they wish with their projects. We can of course help the projects with our advice and kind supporting words. Or we could push for changes that suit just us and embelish our egos. Or we can do nothing and wait for the sky to fall on our heads.

At the end of the day what really matters is what we achieved. Did we help science? Did we understand any of it? How much? Did it amount to anything? Were we ever a top cruncher? You know, things to brag to your grandchildren about in your old age... ;)
161) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 33900)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Projects should ALWAYS have a CPU option, or I'm the first one outta here.


There is one project that is high end GPU only and that is GPUGRID.

Exactly my point. I don't crunch GPUGRID any more since they made it high end GPU, as opposed to a lesser requirement prevously which my onboard laptop NVIDIA GPU could handle (ie, not bought in and not bolted in just to run BOINC). And LOL or not, make Milkyway@home GPU only and I'm outta here. This drive to satisfy high end crunchers and suggestions that CPU crunching is getting in the way is not for me.
162) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33898)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains,
rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is
loyalty to that principle.

- George William Curtis
163) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 33897)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think projects should have a cpu option

I continue to find this staggering. How many people just happen to have a double precision GPU that happens to be ATI or NVIDIA of a small particular model amongst myriads of other GPUs? You may as well throw distributed processing out completely and just have a small select club of people who buy expensive GPUs just to show off how big their computing power is.

Projects should ALWAYS have a CPU option, or I'm the first one outta here.
164) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33891)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


house


165) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 33889)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Brian, it seems one solution that has been overlooked is cutting the credits in 1/2 again. In that case all the GPU's would be looking at other projects that pay more and those with CPU's that were only here for the science would be left.

I'd think that would be a long term solution to an overtaxed infrastructure. <smile>



I really only see two solutions.

1. Add one more extra computer to handle the load.

2. Get rid of the slow cpu support that way Science gets done much faster.

Then all that we will hear is my gpu is not fast enough for the project.

Hence no more complaining about slow and no cpu work and the credits will be the same for everyone on the project. :)


No, I don't agree with your #2 Dan, it could have a Negative Ripple through out the BOINC Projects if you Alienate the CPU User's here by cutting them off at this Project. Many of the CPU User's might just say the heck with BOINC if I'm going to be denied Work at certain Projects because it interferes with the High & Mighty GPU User's. They have just as much right to the Wu's as the GPU User's have and they were the ones that got the Project started in the first place so to bar them now would be like throwing them under the Bus to satisfy GPU User's.

What would be next if you Bar the CPU User's, the slower GPU Users ??? then the Semi slow users and then finally it would be well if you don't have a 2011 ATI 6990 Super Duper 16 Core 20GB Memory Video Card we're not going to give you any work.

It makes me wonder what distributed processing (as in BOINC) is all about. Whether it's about turning up and helping Milkyway with spare processing ability, or whether it's about demanding that Milkyway changes it's research methods, length of WUs, credits, who can crunch where, etc just because some have a stack of PCs with or without GPU's attached.
166) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33884)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


biker

167) Message boards : Number crunching : getting no new workunits (Message 33867)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
He's on his way...



168) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33861)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


thoughtfully

169) Message boards : Number crunching : "Team" software problem (???) (Message 33858)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looks like i got the php to refresh itself so the teams are showing up again :) Sadly, there are no top teams isn't in the list yet :P

Interestingly, 'There are no teams' has no credits or members. Who knows, it may gain a cult following and discover the refresh button and prove itself wrong :P
170) Message boards : Number crunching : "Team" software problem (???) (Message 33852)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think i fixed the problem with the teams, it might take a few minutes to show up on the webpage (when the php refreshes).

I'm not too worried. I've created the team "There are no teams", so I could well have the top (and only) team if it all goes pear-shaped again ;p
171) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Holidays (Thanksgiving Edition) (Message 33840)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What do you give Thanks for???


I give thanks that I still have a job, that I still own my home, and that I can still afford the HUGE electricity bill that just landed on my doorstep, and that I can still afford to go away to the Canaries in January. Happy holidays ;)
172) Message boards : Number crunching : "Team" software problem (???) (Message 33836)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I noticed that, after my last "Update", my account no longer has me listed as a member of a team - although I didn't do anything to "Quit team". My Your account page also has 3 "Database Error" messages at the top right corner of the page. Anybody else having this problem?

I noticed the database errors this morning, and can see the teams have disappeared. I looked up the top teams to find just the one - "There are no teams". Another one or two top crunchers showing off their raw power I expect. Science needs raw power and those who like to show it off, I expect.
173) Message boards : Number crunching : Do MilkyWay need donations? why offline so big time? (Message 33833)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Some [ice] are in it purely for the rocks.

That's an outrageously wrong and ridiculous comment. I suppose you're in it because nobody reads your monologues at CPDN anymore?

What it does for me, as if I should know why I crunch here, is helping Team England (BOINC) climb up the rankings and now Ukraine to climb up the rankings. Take away the teams and I'm finished with BOINC. What other reason is there? And don't say science because that ain't no monologue.
174) Message boards : Number crunching : Do MilkyWay need donations? why offline so big time? (Message 33805)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This is interesting thought taking distributed computing to a new level.

Here is a thought to help that comment out.

1. All credit rates and times should be the soul ownership of the project admin, Not DA's quest for equal wu parity. As this cross parity will never work. This would be do to the fact that all Science projects will have different needs and require different computer types and hardware. And who will be the credit cops for this new adventure? DA? Then all lower projects should now comply and raise there rates...Right like this will ever happen..

2. Some times in our lives we must as parents let go of the children, and let them grow up for them selves. So Please DA..Find more kids to raise. Please!

3. This whole argument about credits that has been going on now for 3 or more years could be stopped by the admin's of projects, by stating that this point per wu will be this and not change any unless the admin's increase the amount of computer time required to complete the task per wu.

4 All those who think that the credit is too high will be asked to leave the project and find a lower credit project to make them happy, as we want to make them happy don't we? And I will do my best to point them out for the complainers. Hey anything to help those folks out.

5. Have a great day.



There is only one problem with all that...

It makes sense....

Not really. If DA 'owns' BOINC and has influence to dictate what credit goes where.. then live with it or find another game to play on your PCs. Tongue in cheek of course, but we all have a choice of where to crunch or how much to endlessly complain about...
175) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33803)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


176) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33802)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have come to the conclusion that you can do no better than throwing an ATI HDxxxx card into a Windoze machine and pointing it to MW ...<snip>... MW pays the highest credits for effort/money expended.

Don't tell them that, they'll all be here in truckloads now... ;)
177) Message boards : Number crunching : Do MilkyWay need donations? why offline so big time? (Message 33772)
Posted 26 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I only wish I could find the time to follow the debate here. I'm too busy trying to micro-manage to keep my ATI cards occupied and justify my so-called investment in science...

178) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33770)
Posted 26 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



60 million in Milkyway, still hoping to retire at 65, but looking for a lottery win so I don't have to ;)








179) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33769)
Posted 26 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

180) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33660)
Posted 24 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


This is Ukraine - the country that still possesses the largest territory in the whole of Europe, and probably most of the food in the Milky Way.
181) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33659)
Posted 24 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


icicle

182) Message boards : Number crunching : new hard drive installed (Message 33657)
Posted 24 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... but honestly Dave and the rest of us really want to make it so that credit is distributed correctly across projects in some kind of fair manner.

The only fair way is to keep fair credit earned in this project - in this project. I am not going to crunch here if you are going to distribute my credit to SETI or any other project. Where I earn credit is mine to choose. Tweak it here to help some other project and you'll be tweaking me out of here along with all the others who really don't want this adverse manipulation of credits.

But then again I made the favicon , so I have to stay here ;)
183) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33598)
Posted 23 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


ship

184) Message boards : Number crunching : new hard drive installed (Message 33590)
Posted 23 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'd also like to say thanks to all the people who have stuck it out with us through the worst problem we've ever had with the project to date :)

Did something happen?

:p
185) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Odds and Sods (Message 33589)
Posted 23 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Introducing the Book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFAWR6hzZek

After watching this clever video from the Norwegian Broadcasting channel, you won't feel so bad about calling tech support.

186) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33577)
Posted 23 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The first 1 Million! for Total World Domination.

Just a first 70 million for me.

187) Message boards : Number crunching : getting no new workunits (Message 33558)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Would they be interested in an HD4850 or is that too slow?

It seems so, although it's hard to read through that thread and work out if only 5000 series can do it.
188) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 33550)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Written In The Stars

189) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33549)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


tactics

190) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 33541)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

George Michael & Elton John - Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me

191) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33540)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

192) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 33530)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here


193) Message boards : Number crunching : I've got an Idea.... (Message 33529)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Shouldn't that be no-one@home? :p

That's really up to the door seller. Rings bell, no answer. He decides if it's nobody or no-one :p

Actually, it's homeownernot@home. I answer the door and deny being the home owner. He leaves :P
194) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI Radeon HD5970 performance on boinc (Message 33527)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

A real cruncher never sleeps.. ;-))


Good, because I did not get any. Have another 5970 now, so will bring BlackBeastOne off line and refit.

Hopefully tomorrow I can wax lyrical about MW WU's and the 5970. It would be interesting to see a comparison with a 5870 if anyone wants to do it.


If you send me a 5870 I will be happy to do it. hehe

Nahh.. there is probably a lot of guys in here who happily will try to beat you. ;-)

I'm not sure the likes of me who have already invested in lesser cards with a "definitely no more" mental note to themselves after the last one, would think about beating these newer cards. For me it's enough to get as far as I can with the technology I have right now, and then just watch as the guys and gals with the newer 5*** series zoom by and stress every GPU BOINC project to pieces ;)

It's OK David Glogau, I'm just jelous :p
195) Message boards : Number crunching : New Dr in the House (Message 33526)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
On a trip to Germany I went into a restaurant. I wanted a steak, well done, but instead of saying "gut durchgebraten", well done, I said "gut gekocht", well cooked. I received a very frosty look and the reply "Alles hier ist gut gekocht!" Everything here is well cooked.

Well cooked Travis :P
196) Message boards : Number crunching : I've got an Idea.... (Message 33524)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
you gonna thank me for this! i just found a new ATI optimized stuff.
called nothing@home...
try it.
:)

I usually try nobody@home - it keeps away the door sellers for sure :)
197) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33523)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Personally I don't see how anybody could complain about the crediting on this project. Cut it half... still be more than any other project.

Cut it in half? Ouch, that would be painful. But so long as it cuts my electricity bills in half, I'm up for it.
198) Message boards : Number crunching : getting no new workunits (Message 33509)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, just so its all clear then. :)

No not really, I'm confused again already :~/
199) Message boards : Number crunching : getting no new workunits (Message 33507)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A Collatz trickle for me too.
I noticed one box had got a dozen WUs so I clicked Refresh on the next one and got half a dozen. By the time I got to the third it was back to the old 'project servers may be temporarily down'.

Hard luck, I got quite a few of ATI for each of my PC/laptops, but not too many of the slower type. Ho hum, we learn to be grateful for what we can get...
200) Message boards : Number crunching : getting no new workunits (Message 33505)
Posted 22 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nah.. Thats not a philosophical question. But a very important,
skilled question.. ;-) If I shall be checked, I would like to
know who or what I`ll be compaired to.. ;-)

The psychological norm as determined by the "American Psychological Association". Now that's got to be useful ;-)

Anyhow - It would probably take more than one hour to come to a conclusion.
It could be interesting... ;-D

Depends on the payment plan. We could also start a poll to determine the nature of reality. That's got to be useful too...

Then there's the view that there's a multitude of relative realities overlying each other, only useful in their own context and particular plane of existence. That might be more useful.


Yeah.. It`s all very interesting, and maybe useful.. but still we cant know
for sure before all eventualities are tried..
I do think youre right; It depends on the payment plan. ;-))
I think you should sort out someone with a better payment potential.. ;-D

Night night.. I should better leave, since this thrad is not about
reality in that term.. and I am being off-topic. ;-)

You're both wrong. It's the relative realities underlying each other, not overlying, that multiply the paradox of perculiar planes.
201) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33499)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Now for something completely different ...



... a team with just one aim.


202) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Animated pets corner (Message 33498)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More cat I think...


203) Message boards : Number crunching : getting no new workunits (Message 33492)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Im already getting a trickle of Collatz WU's so Collatz wins I guess!
;-p

I have more than a trickle. Enough for another week probably ;)
204) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33479)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

205) Message boards : Number crunching : New Dr in the House (Message 33437)
Posted 21 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
hehe -

Well.. I couldnt give it to him.. Someone ate it. ;-))

Well that's that then. No WUs for us.
206) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33410)
Posted 20 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Totally

207) Message boards : Number crunching : New Dr in the House (Message 33388)
Posted 20 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Well done Travis


208) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33360)
Posted 19 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

~ wrongfully denounced

209) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33359)
Posted 19 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well, despite the uploading problems at Collatz and no work anywhere, we made it........

The first 25 Million! for BT Retired Club

It's a 9 year anniversary present as I joined Seti Classic on 22nd November 2000 :-)


Well done the BT retired club, and may our BT phones continue to work, especially the BT Verve which is excellent! ;)
210) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33346)
Posted 18 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This is Ukraine - the country that possesses the largest territory in the whole of Europe.
211) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Crash November 10 (Message 33319)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I expect to keep working with it as long as they let me :P

Can you at least keep it going so that I can get my 65 mill and retire ?
212) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Animated pets corner (Message 33318)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

213) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Animated pets corner (Message 33309)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
214) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Animated pets corner (Message 33291)
Posted 15 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

215) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Crash November 10 (Message 33280)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
But projects are in some ways organisms, they have life cycles, the life cycle does vary from project to project, but over the past 8 months or so, it seems that MW has moved from youthful energy to middle age decline in terms of how the project responds to events and for that matter how it communicates.


It's very hard to hide the dissapointment. I want to be grateful that MW provided a project I wanted to crunch in, but wonder how it could be set adrift and now down a black hole with no server.

Hopefully we can have new hardrives in a day or two and get things back up and running.


Yes hopefully. Which day or two was it?
216) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Crash November 10 (Message 33273)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Those that are using ATI GPU's do have ONE current alternative. I'd love there to be more.

Yes, wouldn't we all. But how many alternatives were there when I invested in ATI cards in the early days, not so far back at the beginning of this year?

NONE. ZILCH.

No other projects. Just MilkyWay and no promise at all that there would be any other ATI projects.

It's lucky that we have Collatz, and unlucky that I can't hammer MW right now ;)
217) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Crash November 10 (Message 33265)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yep, relax is the best way at the moment. The Boss-man has one of the most important goals in his life to deal with, kit is on order, it has to be delivered and fitted, and got up and running. Personally I'm not expecting any new work till next mid-week at the earliest.

I'm happy to wait while I start to set up my second 4850 and give it a run out on Collatz.....


Relax? I don't think so. It may be quite handy for some that MW is down so they can relax and sunbathe and stuff, but there is a race under way in Prime Grid right now. How you can relax when the race is on is quite amazing...
218) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Animated pets corner (Message 33261)
Posted 14 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

219) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33237)
Posted 12 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
4 Million overall my i7 920 is really pumping out the WU's.
;-p Still online for another month, Tanx Mom!!

Well done Bruce's Mom! :)
220) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33234)
Posted 12 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I passed 50,000,000 at MilkyWay! (BOINC total 82,072,036 today)

The town where I live has been gradually becoming a cold season, too.
MilkyWay on Radeon warms my body :-)

Congratulations on the 50,000,000 hirano@wakasu-zenkai.

I take a couple of Radeons to bed, one to toast each of my feet ;)
221) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Crash November 10 (Message 33229)
Posted 12 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Travis:
I read in the forums recently that you had a number of hard drives damaged due to construction around campus. To reduce the damage to the hard drives, have you looked at shock-mounted external hard drives or shock mounted hard drive internal cases?

Anti-vibration hard drive cases will protect your new hard drives on order.

How about sitting the whole server on a shock absorbing foam pad?

How about putting the whole thing on a cruise liner and sailing it down to the doldrums :)
222) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33220)
Posted 11 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

sling

223) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting down & good bye ! (Message 33196)
Posted 10 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@ Ice
If/when I go offline I wont be able to post unless I go to someplace that will allow me to use their computer, I dont know many people that are geographicaly close enough to me that are online and would let me access the internet from there. Family would gladly let me use their computers but the closest family member is aprox 45 Km away, with no wheels I dont get to see them very often. I'll try to post when I can but it wont be very often. Hope Travis has MW up n' running when I come back, possibly in about 4 months but thats only a guess at this time, I will be back, not sure how long though. Anyway treat my WU's nice ok.
Bruce ;-p

Stay in touch Bruce. Canada will miss you and so will we all - come back soon!
224) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting down & good bye ! (Message 33194)
Posted 10 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Good day all!
Although I'm not shutting down just yet, my $$$ situation has taken a turn fer the worse! It looks like I'll be going offline sometime in the next week or two!!(I need a miracle to stay online, as my Company Disability benefits have run out, the Gov disability takes 4 months to process"I didn't know this" so I'm living on $570CDN a month "Welfare") So I wish you all the best n' keep on crunching!!! ( Ice you can Grunch all my Wus ok).
Bruce

Bruce, take a break but keep posting. It's always good to see you here. Thanks for the WUs, I will crunch them gladly and not give them up to those who think I can't. I'm a top 100 BOINCer now ;)
225) Message boards : Number crunching : Shutting down & good bye ! (Message 33162)
Posted 9 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You could of course buy an second hand ATI card and just run one machine, and still get more credit than you were getting. Just a thought?

That's a good thought. That's how I started with my first ATI; how it would allow me to shut down all but one PC, save the electricity, and still get me the credits of the combined PCs that I had turned off.

(Trouble is, I couldn't resist shoehorning an ATI into each of the other PCs becuase the ATI crunching was so successful.)
226) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33161)
Posted 9 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
just hit 10 million here today. :D

Well done Zanth. 10 million is a good milestone :)
227) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 33146)
Posted 8 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

wisdom
228) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange things happen (credit) (Message 33145)
Posted 8 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
May I suggest a RAID array, so there is always a duplicate




Errr surely a raid array would just have a copy of the crashed database.


Raid arrays are great if a disk stops working, but useless is the data is corrupted

And remember, a RAID controller itself can become the single point of failure within a system.
229) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33144)
Posted 8 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It doesn't matter to me if they get the same credit per second as they do now, they just need to be on the order of 100 times longer...

It really makes me wonder sometimes. Just two posts below Travis says "Due to what we're doing here our WUs need a somewhat faster turn around time"

How do your 100 times longer WUs make for faster turn around time?

They would then take an hour or so like the cpu wus do. How is that not better? Then each gpu would have a days work or more instead of 15 min.

I should imagine that there is a scientific/research reason for the length of a WU. It's like trying to suggest stuffing a hundred days food into your pet dog on day one just to make life more convenient for you.

Travis already said and promised gpu wus 100x longer months ago. He said they had more complex data that could be crunched, so yes it would be scientific.

OK, I missed that. It would certainly make a radical difference. But given the reality of rate of progress here in MW and the possibilities becoming a reality, Travis may as well say that this project is aiming to put the first donkey on Mars by the year 2012. Not meant to be a criticism of Travis, I'm just saying we can make the best of what we have and leave the pie in the sky for when it happens.
230) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33140)
Posted 8 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It doesn't matter to me if they get the same credit per second as they do now, they just need to be on the order of 100 times longer...

It really makes me wonder sometimes. Just two posts below Travis says "Due to what we're doing here our WUs need a somewhat faster turn around time"

How do your 100 times longer WUs make for faster turn around time?

They would then take an hour or so like the cpu wus do. How is that not better? Then each gpu would have a days work or more instead of 15 min.

I should imagine that there is a scientific/research reason for the length of a WU. It's like trying to suggest stuffing a hundred days food into your pet dog on day one just to make life more convenient for you.
231) Message boards : Number crunching : Cruncher's MW Concerns (Message 33136)
Posted 7 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It doesn't matter to me if they get the same credit per second as they do now, they just need to be on the order of 100 times longer...

It really makes me wonder sometimes. Just two posts below Travis says "Due to what we're doing here our WUs need a somewhat faster turn around time"

How do your 100 times longer WUs make for faster turn around time?
232) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33125)
Posted 7 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's amazing what you can do with a few GPUs these days!

Just passed 25,000,000 here. Yay me....


Congratulations The Gas Giant. What was it that Winston Churchill said; Never was so much credit owed by so many crunchers to so few gpus...
233) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 33107)
Posted 6 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Wow, am I pleased or what?

I've made it into the BOINCstats top 100 on credit and RAC; and 5th top cruncher in the UK.

Most incredibly I am 3rd in a new team that is racing up the charts.

Well done me and my team ! We're the stars, that's for sure ;)

[edit] I've also moved into the top 50 multi-project BOINC participants. Rock 'n' roll, bless my little cotton socks...
234) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 33106)
Posted 6 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


235) Message boards : Number crunching : No Thankyou (Message 33095)
Posted 6 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I would urge people not to leave Milkyway. My beef is that things could be improved, and some attention from admin would be appropriate which has happened recently. Milkyway has been a good, interesting project to be involved in, for me particularly with the ATI GPU development.
236) Message boards : Number crunching : No Thankyou (Message 33023)
Posted 4 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I do not think repairing the database at 5:30 in the morning makes up for the lack of consideration the admin have given to the contributors to Milkway.
237) Message boards : Number crunching : Proposed new BOINC credit system (Message 33022)
Posted 4 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Is there a translation of this into understandable English?

238) Message boards : Number crunching : Thankyou! (Message 32996)
Posted 3 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It appears that the database managed to corrupt itself, then failed in a spectacular fashion.

I suppose someone has to say it. If a server and the systems running on it are evidencing problems and no measures are taken to rectify or maintain it, then this is bound to happen - crash bang whollop!

Much has been said in recent days/weeks/months about such evidence, and no response has been made by administrators/moderators. So NO! It's not in order.
239) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work.... (Message 32924)
Posted 1 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Validator looks to be down as well as it needs new searches.

Search and share alike I say.

Is it only me or do you also get WU? .. Well i got 48 of them anyway...

I ought to have at least 12 of them 'cause Travis promised them to me :p
240) Message boards : Number crunching : My computers are gone (Message 32922)
Posted 1 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Why can't i see my computers under my computers?

Dunno. I can see them, at least 31 of them. How many did you lose?

Me too. Is it possible the page didn't load with it being so slow now?


OK, perhaps he didn't lose them, perhaps he took them away. I miss him already.
241) Message boards : Number crunching : Website slow for anyone else? (Message 32918)
Posted 1 Nov 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Having joined quite a few projects when they just came out of the gate I have seen a pattern where there is intense interest and lost of interaction with the admins until about 6 months in ...

Then, it stops ...

I am not so convinced that it is lack of interest so much, I suspect that the project gets into a "steady-state" where work is being done at a sufficient rate that there is little pressure on the admins to pay attention to the day to day problems.

I think you are about right with that assessment. It's possible that Travis and Dave have moved on, or providing just fleeting direction to some poor souls trying to keep this going. Hopefully someone at the server end will notice our posts and realize that there has to be some due care and consideration to all those making an effort at this end.
242) Message boards : Number crunching : Disconnected (Message 32908)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This is starting to happen now. The Projects and Tasks tab in BOINC manager show nothing but a white space with "Disconnected" showing at the bottom. The message tabs stops with this;

10/31/2009 21:27:59 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
10/31/2009 21:28:01 Milkyway@home Started download of ps_12_3s_const_1_search_parameters_2772966_1257024469
10/31/2009 21:28:01 Milkyway@home Started download of ps_12_3s_const_1_search_parameters_2772967_1257024469

Which was two hours ago. I expect if I file>exit and restart the BOINCmanager it will fire up again. Micromanually.

Anyone else getting this or know why?
243) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32905)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
5 Million here, 10 Million overall.

That's cool arkayn, but how cool is this;

I am 103rd in BOINCstats http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_stats.php?pr=bo&st=100#103

and so is my team 103rd in BOINCstats; http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_stats.php?pr=bo&st=100#103
244) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32904)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This is to confirm that the zslip domain no longer exists in my ownership and no longer provides redirection to my op apps page.

The link to my optimized apps page is: http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway

Misfit has also provided and addition link: http://www.creditsathome.com

I have added a further 'short' link: http://3rd.in/mw

Please use whichever you prefer.
245) Message boards : Number crunching : Website slow for anyone else? (Message 32903)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You have got to understand here in MW land, the admins here have gotten to a 'this is really tedious' point in this project's life. We no longer get response and participation from the admins, and only periodically (and rarely) do we get anything regarding updates and explanations.

Admin/project folks here simply have (emotionally and intellectually) moved on and are largely going through the motions at this point.

I'd hope they find a way to get re-energized about this project, but increasingly the sympathetic frustration I have with this project is moving through the stages of disappointment and moving toward ire.

I'm certainly having trouble replying to you, this is my third attempt and I'm moving to ire myself now. If you get to speak to these admin/project guys can you ask them to kick the server...
246) Message boards : Number crunching : In a system state (Message 32896)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm getting a message which says "Communicating with BOINC client. Please wait..." with "Retrieving system state; please wait...".

The BOINC manager is disconnected and nothing appears to be happening, all crunching stopped. Pressing 'cancel' against the first message above gets everything going again, but pressumably nothing will happen until I or my micromanager presses the button. This is occurring more and more frequently.

Is anyone else getting this?

What version of BOINC? When does it happen, on system start?

I've been keeping up with the latest versions of 6.10.*, and have been seeing it more noticably on 6.10.16, although I think I saw it before that. I've just upgraded to 6.10.17 and have seen the same message almost immediately.

I've also had a PM from someone with no RAC to be able to post here, who cannot get any work becuase of this problem, who are on Linux and I've asked for more details.
247) Message boards : Number crunching : Development BOINC 6.10.17 released (Message 32889)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

It says "Projects with ATI applications: Milkyway@home (coming soon)"

I hope it comes soon enough so that I can get going with some crunching here :p
248) Message boards : Number crunching : In a system state (Message 32888)
Posted 31 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm getting a message which says "Communicating with BOINC client. Please wait..." with "Retrieving system state; please wait...".

The BOINC manager is disconnected and nothing appears to be happening, all crunching stopped. Pressing 'cancel' against the first message above gets everything going again, but pressumably nothing will happen until I or my micromanager presses the button. This is occurring more and more frequently.

Is anyone else getting this?
249) Message boards : Number crunching : A new BOINC credit system? Ver 2.10.3 (Message 32884)
Posted 30 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I see the credit wars are still burning like the Springfield tire fire.

Some of us are definitly burning rubber off our tires as we accelerate our credit contributions. But I can assure you the aim is to contribute to science.

Who burns what rubber on which tire, and how much and who wins, and who comes a close second and who spills off at the final bend - is just good stomping fun.

Make fun not war ;) And I hate to say it, but it's not the last who posts that wins.

250) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32882)
Posted 30 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

400M


Well done Kevin. It's just too awesome for words ;)
251) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 32876)
Posted 29 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've dropped in, I've said hello, so where is everyone???

:-(

Stuck in traffic?

What, at this time of night?
252) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link V (Message 32875)
Posted 29 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


~ -eyed

253) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32845)
Posted 28 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


goal

254) Message boards : Number crunching : credit table 2.0 (Message 32844)
Posted 28 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't care for all this superfluous bolded and underlined shouting and screaming.

I do care for boosted's good, clear, and well put comments; well done.
255) Message boards : Number crunching : A new BOINC credit system? Ver 2.10.3 (Message 32843)
Posted 28 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Personally I long for the really old System (SETI Classic) when you knew if you did 1 Wu you got 1 Credit, it was simple but it worked.

Except for all the scripts and programs that hunted out and deleted the VLAR WUs :-)

Seti-Classic had more way to cheat than you can shake a stick at. The dev had to run a script to disable a whole bunch of obvious cheats account when the user data base was transfered to Boinc. Entire teams were dedicated to cheating the Credit systems. Those were the good old day alright.



Yep they were good and fun

Hey Ice maybe I should let some folks here go to our disagreements area and that way they can say anything that they like without getting modded...Smile.

I'm sorry by I can't disagree with you on that one DD, I'd be more than pleased not to mod anyone in our disagreement area, even my old pals from the the good old days ;) As for SETI classic, I was never there, didn't even know it existed and joined BOINC through the British Broadcasting Corporation advertising on BBC Climate. It never occured to anyone to try and cheat there, since the British never do nor would anyone think about it on a British project :p, and quite frankly to me it seems to defeat the whole point of why we're here - to support scientific and other research.

Yep, our disagreement area where you don't get modded is ..... like you said ... Smile.
256) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32817)
Posted 27 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

55 million in Milkyway. Wow. It's just blimmin' marvelous if I might say so :)

257) Message boards : Number crunching : A new BOINC credit system? Ver 2.10.3 (Message 32816)
Posted 27 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Next...smile

I liked the old system. Can't we just stick with a stable working system for a while before doing the bells and whistles thing?
258) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 32725)
Posted 25 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
- some projects are simpler than mw...


Yes, like CPDN which requires no GPU at all :p
259) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32699)
Posted 24 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



ice


260) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 32698)
Posted 24 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... the recent MilkyWay server sluggishness due to short tasks being issued influenced me to switch to Collatz for a while because I can download a larger cache of work there and leave it to run by itself without needing to check often to see if it has run out of work. It reduces the server load here and besides I like to support the other ATI project, it would be better if there were a few more of them.

I've been trying that also. The higher cache at Collatz and the 12 MW WUs taking far longer on CPU has brought some respite to constantly checking whether ATI and CPUs are gainfully employed.
261) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 32678)
Posted 23 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No, crunching DPDN with CPU [I7 920 @ 3.3ghZ].

So it's Climate with your ATI and Disaster Predictions with your CPU? :P

No more crunching with the Sinclair ZX then?
262) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 32675)
Posted 23 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

263) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32669)
Posted 23 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

nice (one Japi ;)
264) Message boards : Number crunching : problema al core client (Message 32668)
Posted 23 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nice work with that translation banditwolf, and well done with the Italian help Flotta. Not that I understand any of it, as I don't understand why BOINC comes out with error messages that don't tell you why the error occured...
265) Message boards : Number crunching : My computers are gone (Message 32667)
Posted 23 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Why can't i see my computers under my computers?

Dunno. I can see them, at least 31 of them. How many did you lose?
266) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 32663)
Posted 23 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Mine came with ccc9.10 installed.
I copied the win64 app_info, astronomy_20, brook64 to boincdata/mw
Restarted boinc, computation error, computation error, ..., CPDN crunching madly.

You are crunching CPDN with ATI?
267) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32651)
Posted 22 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


immunity

268) Message boards : Number crunching : Using the MW ATi application, Q & A (Message 32625)
Posted 21 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
>with 3 pin English plug
You can't even supply your own IEC lead?! Now that's cheap! :-)

I need an English plug, that's for sure ;)
269) Message boards : Number crunching : Using the MW ATi application, Q & A (Message 32622)
Posted 21 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hey guys!

Here letting everyone know that I have this working with the 5850 on Win7 RTM 32bit. Let me know if you need anything from me!

SinisterMinister

Yea, I need your 5850 and the big box its attached to - with 3 pin English plug on the power lead if poss. And your address to send the electric bills to :P
270) Message boards : Number crunching : More and more failures to connect to server- deja vu (Message 32612)
Posted 21 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
its no good we need more ati asssisted projects ;)
So we can overload them all xD

It's about time someone had the idea of taking distributed processing a step further and having distributed servers. I'm sure that many would volunteer to use their powerful systems to recieve WUs and issue new ones, and perhaps being given credits for WUs recieved, stored, moved to the MW server when it is better able to cope, and dispense new WUs in the meantime.
271) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 32591)
Posted 20 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

If you have a flair for crunching... please dare to join us



272) Message boards : Number crunching : More and more failures to connect to server- deja vu (Message 32565)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Or you can just throw more hardware at the problem... :)


I could be tempted ;)
273) Message boards : Number crunching : More and more failures to connect to server- deja vu (Message 32563)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What did you expect ?!


I expect that when I risk all and go for ATIs in the early stages at the beginning of the year when this mega crunching was all an unknown and a risky waste of money if they didn't work out, and then you go and buy one 5870 and proceed to grind me into dust as you quantum leap to billions of credits with your thousands of shaders and DDR 368 memory... I expect I might have to join a team where I can keep up :P
274) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32562)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
slow

Milkyway
;-p

Mustbeanotherway :P
275) Message boards : Number crunching : More and more failures to connect to server- deja vu (Message 32558)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

What's the difference between people spending their money on a few Core i7 965s overclocked to 4.8GHz or a few ATI cards? Either way you can't keep blaming people for wanting to crunch here.

Crunch, crunch crunch! ;)

276) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI GPU app 0.19f fixes the ps_sgr_208_3s errors (Message 32557)
Posted 19 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Delete duplicate post due to forum running slow.

Click 'Post reply', go make cup of coffee.
If it hasn't posted by the time you get back, go make another one. :)



Another post or another cup of coffee? I just have to be sure we get this right!



Can we make a cup of tea instead of coffee?
277) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32539)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


eyes






278) Message boards : Number crunching : Longer CPU WU Times (Message 32535)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I know this has been addressed in passing in other threads,including those regarding credit lowering, but I'd like a clear answer. I have an older machine with an Athlon-XP-M 2400+ CPU. My WUs used to take 1.5-4.5 hours, now they take 9-10 hours. What's up with that? Besides, I'm crunching for science, not credits (everybody has their thing), and I also crunch for Einstein and Cosmology. Of the three projects I personally view MW as the least worthy of my CPU cycles. So I'd like an Admin to make a case for me to stick with MW.

Whilst you are waiting for admin to make a case, please note that they have increased the length, and credits, of WUs due to a demand from the masses. If your WUs are taking longer, then your are getting more credits for them, and they are producing more scientific value. There has been some credit adjustment to bring MW into line with other projects, but that is another argument. Personally I think I deserve far more for my efforts ;)
279) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 32534)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Who Dares Wins - - - Join DIGITAL RECON


280) Message boards : Number crunching : Website slow for anyone else? (Message 32532)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
you can use the "Scheduled Tasks" in Windows to do the same

What command would we use in Scheduled Tasks to make BOINC poll MW every 5 minutes for work?

Scheduled Tasks won't poll a BOINC project, but it can be used to run a sript that does, say every 5 minutes.

Alternatively you can use a sleep command in a script to <poll, sleep for 5 minutes, go to step 1> - which doesn't need Scheduled Tasks.
281) Message boards : Number crunching : Donating to Milkyway@Home (Message 32530)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
They must be using the Donation Money to buy more Donuts cause i sure don't see any improvements in the Server ... :P

Who cares about the servers - it's your turn to buy the donuts with all those credits you have :P
282) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32529)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If I keep trying maybe some day I can get on that list ...

Ha ha, you'll just have to try harder PoorBoy. Maybe you'll catch up with me some day :P
283) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32525)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Gosh, I was in the BOINC top 100 and I didn't even know it


284) Message boards : Number crunching : Website slow for anyone else? (Message 32520)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have a quesion....

How to make, that BOINC MG will automaticly requesting new tasks quicker after serwer error/no works?

Now my host waits..... and do nothing...

I can not manually reset him, bcause now I am in other pleace...

How to make that he will try to download e.g. every 5 minutes?

You can use a script to update to MW every 5 minutes, or you can use the "Scheduled Tasks" in Windows to do the same, or a cron utility such as VisualCron. But be aware that it will be polling the servers every 5 minutes whether the server went down or not.
285) Message boards : Number crunching : Website slow for anyone else? (Message 32518)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Amazing. Just deciding where else to crunch and both MW and Collatz almost at the same time start throwing heaps of WUs at me ;)
286) Message boards : Number crunching : Website slow for anyone else? (Message 32511)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Slow as molasses since yesterday. Constant page errors. Something needs to be done that will actually help this problem more than a day or week.

I'm glad you mentioned that. I was wondering if my laptop had seized up inside. I was about to try a pressure hose on it, but I expect it's doing its best.
287) Message boards : Number crunching : Donating to Milkyway@Home (Message 32509)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I'm sure I can see a set of false teeth amongst those donuts...

288) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32504)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

stealth
289) Message boards : Number crunching : cuda23 Computation error (Message 32494)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The issue has been fixed in version 0.21, thank you for your patience.

0.21? what's that then?
290) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 32487)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't know if they are cheating, but it sounds a lot like the shenanigans that where happening on Seti-Classic and really damaged the credit system as well as compromising the science. It is one of the reason Boinc adopted the concepts of replication, quorum and validation of the work. It provides a certain assurance that good science is being done and that the credit system has some meaning. It would seem that MW is failing on both counts. If you leave the door open, there will always be someone taking advantage of the situation.

If someone is cheating that needs to be dealt with. If the validation system is allowing bad WUs to come through or bad WUs to be awarded credit, that should also be dealt with by MW admin.
291) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.10.14 (Message 32484)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm not superstitious, but I'm glad to move away from version 13 ;p
292) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 32481)
Posted 17 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No, you really don't get it, do you? It's not quibble, quibble, quibble. It's crunch, crunch, crunch!
293) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 32453)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
They were designed to be processed by CPUs.

No they weren't. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute developed a research project called Milkyway@Home which required the processing of data by computer or whatever means, calculators, atomic clocks or counting on fingers - whatever it takes to feed their research.

Your analysis of the whole thing being concentrated on CPUs as if that was the end in itself is quite wrong. Let's get those resources properly and smartly managed. My GPUs are straining for MORE! because they want to smartly and resourcefully contribute to Milkyway@Home!



Yea, why not change the world?
294) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.10.14 (Message 32447)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Hmmmmmm. Not many changes then.

Thanks Emanuel ;)
295) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 32444)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
>Being relatively inexpensive
But on the other hand the price of 4870s should be starting to plummet anytime soon...

Those prices are already much lower than when I bought mine at the beginning of the year. But then there is the small matter of paying for a new PC to put another 4870 in, and as Tombei the Mist says, the price of electricity will not be starting to plummet anytime soon...

I'm aiming to squeeze the most out of what I have, and still hope to make it into the BOINC top 100 without going for any further GPU cards.

But then again... they are starting to plummet in price anytime soon... ;P
296) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 32436)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I am pleased to say that BOINCstats has now updated to show me as a member of DIGITAL RECON.

Dan, thanks for the opportunity to join. I have a feeling that this is going to be a very interesting ride ;)

Come on everyone, please come and join what could become the most exciting and biggest team in the history of the known BOINCiverse !
297) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32435)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think ATI know what they do in matter of fan speed and GPU temperatures.


I have a small clutch of ATI GPUs and I would be inclined to agree with you ;)


I told you I wasn't an expert LOL! :-) Looks like the latest cards are designed to run at considerably higher temps than a couple of years ago. That is a very good trend, because it means that it shouldn't be necessary to upgrade with after market coolers.

I'm sure there is a place for cooling fans. I have a laptop with a Nvidia GPU which kept turning itself off when trying to do some CUDA crunching. I suspected overheating, so now I have it on a laptop cooling stand with the fans running off the USB and it's been happily crunching Collatz and MW without interruption ever since.
298) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32419)
Posted 16 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think ATI know what they do in matter of fan speed and GPU temperatures.


I have a small clutch of ATI GPUs and I would be inclined to agree with you ;)
299) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32410)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am no expert in GPU's, but I would make a friendly comment from the screen shot below :-

GPU load 99%
GPU temp 85C
Fan speed 37%

I would suggest that you increase that fan speed and try to get the GPU temp down to within the 60's range. Rivatuner can change the fanspeed on almost any card.


I can't say I'm an expert on the HD5870 either, but my understanding is that it idles at 40C and rises to 88C under full load, or 90C overclocked. AMD say that it should start to throttle itself at close to 95C degrees.

You're running a bit cold there at 85C TomaszPawel! ;)

300) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32406)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In other words:

Configuration of the number of concurrent WUs with new BOINC clients (6.10.3 and up):

The included app_info.xml declares the app as GPU app for the new 6.10.x clients. This is done
with a <coproc></coproc> statement. This statement also determines how much of a GPU the
application is upposed to use. If it uses less than a full GPU the client will start several WUs
for each detected GPU. Search for the following lines in the app_info.xml:
 <coproc>
   <type>ATI</type>
   <count>1</count>
 </coproc>
Changing the count value to 0.5 will run two WUs per GPU, a value of 0.33 three WUs.


So I try it tommorow :)

Thnx...

Yes, that works.

Thnx from me also ;)
301) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32378)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Whooo Hooooo, I'm back with a MW RAC of 200,000

Just another 130,000 to go...

302) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32377)
Posted 15 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

dongs
303) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 32354)
Posted 13 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

gents (as in, going off at)
304) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32350)
Posted 13 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
EUREKA! Have now passed 10,000,000 cobblestones on MilkyWay.
Also have passed (or soon will)1,000,000 cobblestones on 3 Projects; Collatz Conjecture plus AQUA as well Docking.

Team Cobar Spidershas also passed 10,000,000cobblestones on MilkyWay.
Plus also passed 1,000,000cobblestones on Collatz Conjecture plus AQUA as well Docking.

Team Cobar Spidershas also passed 20,000,000 cobblestones in BOINC Projects Overall Total.

Congratulations to you ICE on 50,000,000 and to TGG for 20,000,000 and all others on your milestones.

Thanks Conan. Congrats on your 10,000,000 and on 20,000,000 for your team,

well done arkayan and congratz Elteor ;)
305) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 32340)
Posted 12 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You can not run both MW GPU & MW CPU on the same machine at the same time.


That's very true, although you can run VM (virtual machines) so that you are running MW GPU on the host and MW CPU in the VM. Still, it's running on two different machines but on the same physical machine. I've tried it myself, but it didn't seem too efficient and the response on the VM was very poor.
306) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 32337)
Posted 12 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

50 million

Another 15 and I can retire at 65, har har

That's my next target, 65 million. What's yours? ;)
307) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 32336)
Posted 12 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Welcome To Digital Recon,

Are you tired of being bored by just crunching?

Would you like to have a good Team stomp?

Do you think of yourself as very competitive?

Do you like to crank up your computer to make it crunch as fast as it can?

Well if you have answered yes to all of the above, then come and join the Team and lets open a new area of crunching.

At DIGITAL RECON, you can make a difference in how the Boinc world Looks at a Team and YOU!
____________

Hi Dan. Your team sounds very tempting. What does 'Digital Recon' stand for?



What I am doing is trying to set up a team who really wants to get down and serious about crunching. Those who want to reach the highest rac that they can and see just how fast they can get there. And the nice part of it is that the science also benefits by getting work done real fast. Digital Recon means looking for folks with fast Computers

BTW ICE nice avatar



Thanks Dan. I quite like yours to.
308) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32335)
Posted 12 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I ASSUMED that this application would be ready-to-go when posted.


That is a good assumption, all the versions have worked 'out of the box' for me with options to tweak things. There will always be misunderstandings and explanations and detail that we have to struggle with at times. But then there always some who want to get the best for all of us ;)
309) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32296)
Posted 11 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Version 0.20b for ATI optimized apps is now on brilliantsite.com

All zip files in the downloads begin with ati_ to denote they are for ati GPU processing (not CPU). Some of the file names end with _amd.zip which denote that amdcal* drivers are required. See the readme.txt in each download.
310) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 32295)
Posted 11 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Version 0.20b for ATI optimized apps is now on brilliantsite.com

All zip files in the downloads begin with ati_ to denote they are for ati GPU processing (not CPU). Some of the file names end with _amd.zip which denote that amdcal* drivers are required. See the readme.txt in each download.

[edit] ooops, sorry, wrong thread...
311) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.20 issues win32 (Message 32290)
Posted 11 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
"Cluster Physik" wrote:
You are running WindowsXP, therefore Catalyst 8.12 is recommended. That also means you have to use the Win32_amd or Win32_SSE2_amd version (not the ones with "_ati" at the end). That is all said in the readme by the way.


I suspect some of the people having trouble with v0.20b may be running the wrong app for their catalyst version, so I thought this could do with highlighting :)

Duhhhh, this is all becoming double Dutch. I don't have any AMD processors, but I >do< have ATI cards, so I'm supposed to realize that I should pick the AMD version?

I started up zslip/brilliantsite.com to try and make it easier for people to find and decide which one to use. But you got me here CP ;)
312) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.20 issues win32 (Message 32237)
Posted 10 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I normally like to try new versions reasonably quickly, but in the case of 0.20b I decided to wait until it was complete or help was requested in testing it.

As far as I am aware version 0.20 remains the recommended version and the last message regarding the use of 0.20b stated the following:

....."But before you try to download it, it's not complete and not correctly set up yet. So it will probably not work right now. Be a little bit more patient"...... from Message 32135

I must admit I wasn't sure about the status of 0.25b, so I just went ahead and installed it on all my PCs with ATIs, and then proceded to find every one of them failing all WUs with compute errors. I usually test all win_32 op apps before putting them up on www.brilliantsite.com, which I did in this case and 0.20b won't be going up there just yet.
313) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 32234)
Posted 10 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have my site updated with the newer 0.20b ATI apps now.

http://www.arkayn.us/milkyway/index.html

0.20b doesn't work, at least not for me. Since you've taken 0.20 off your site I take it that you think 0.20b will work for all?
314) Message boards : Number crunching : Some feedback on Milkyway GPU crunching with various GPUs (Message 32090)
Posted 7 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
3. Credit system. The PPD Milkyway is claiming are extremely inflated and WAY over the top.


I disagree! They are not nearly inflated enough! I've only gained 50 million credits since the beginning of this year. It's a scandal!
315) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 31993)
Posted 5 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi guys, Ice, Misfit, others...

Ice, you look terribly blue, I hope you're not feeling blue as well?

At this time two weeks from now I'll be in Milan, Italy, sipping some very good red wine, and waiting for having dinner served for me cooked by my Italian, he will cook pasta for me. We will have a wonderful time together in Milan. I can't wait! :-D


Hi Fuzzy. Your trip to Milan sounds great.

Not feeling blue at all, on the contrary, so let's sing along;

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
Cos Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.
316) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 31968)
Posted 4 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Welcome To Digital Recon,

Are you tired of being bored by just crunching?

Would you like to have a good Team stomp?

Do you think of yourself as very competitive?

Do you like to crank up your computer to make it crunch as fast as it can?

Well if you have answered yes to all of the above, then come and join the Team and lets open a new area of crunching.

At DIGITAL RECON, you can make a difference in how the Boinc world Looks at a Team and YOU!
____________

Hi Dan. Your team sounds very tempting. What does 'Digital Recon' stand for?
317) Message boards : Number crunching : server crash (July 29) (Message 31947)
Posted 4 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just got this:

10/4/2009 5:00:57 AM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks
10/4/2009 5:01:02 AM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/4/2009 5:01:02 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Server can't open database

Me to. Now getting no work available.
318) Message boards : Number crunching : It's nearly the weekend, & guess what? (Message 31945)
Posted 4 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I expect you also support this trend (the bit at the end);






It looks like some are supporting this trend;



319) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 31924)
Posted 3 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's so expensive it makes the less fortunate...!

Ah well, I don't think she would ever have bought me that camera. I think it's just a ploy to get the new bathroom she wants.

I am, however, amazed that anyone would think that an inanimate object has a need, or not a need for me.

Oh OK, every bar of chocolate in my hand has a need to be eaten by me ;)

Dear Deidre,
Why don't more chocolate bars jump into my hands and beg me to eat them?
320) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 31919)
Posted 3 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


(Refresh your browser for an alternative picture)
321) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31917)
Posted 3 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


bridges

322) Message boards : Number crunching : It's nearly the weekend, & guess what? (Message 31874)
Posted 2 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think I will arbitrarily pick a goal number and once it is met, pull the plug on boinc in general unless things overall get better.

I have a total in mind, have had for a while. But not unless anything. Just time to stop and give that time and resource to something else.

BOINC doesn't deserve me, I'm sure something else does ;)

323) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31873)
Posted 2 Oct 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

condemned

324) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 31757)
Posted 30 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So move then, Beserk, and stop clogging up this board whingeing about it.


i moved on days ago.

So hurry back and keep the faith :P
325) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 31736)
Posted 30 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Its been available for a week and no-one's bought one yet?

Maybe I should to celebrate my just-confirmed escape from the clutches of redundancy. But then I still try to maintain that there's a Canon 5D MKII with my name on it ;)

326) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 31735)
Posted 30 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
>You give out a 5000 sec long work unit
Try CPDN - 4,000 hour WUs available there.

Oh I'm still trying them after all these years. Someone has to support the work in Climate Change after all ;)

327) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 31734)
Posted 30 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Congrats Bruce, TGG, loeakaodas, 7NBI_Zarecki et al !


328) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application Updated (Message 31733)
Posted 30 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And that will continue to scale, the new ATI HD5870 should easily double the performance of a HD4890 at Milkyway. And when the next nvidia generation arrives, I'm quite sure it will do much more than to double the DP performance of a GTX285 ;)

Holy Batman! So I've just spent months building up a nice credit total with my farm of ATIs, and then the new ATIs/nvidias come along and just one of them will get the same credit total in five minutes <wow> ;)

329) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with tiny cache in MW (Message 31698)
Posted 29 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If fast turn around time is of such great importance why even allow CPUs?


You can't shut down MW for CPUs. All the work that Cluster Physik did for optimized CPU apps would be lost and that would be inexcusable. Without that work you would never have had optimized apps for MW GPUs.

330) Message boards : Number crunching : Database Borked Again? (Message 31678)
Posted 29 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Its now time to run, not walk to your local collatz store for more work...Smile..

OK, there is a project that can make use of idle ATI cards when MW is down (again). And yes I use it since I hate to have my ATI cards idle whilst still drawing yottajoules from the nation grid. Thanks to Collatz Conjecture and a project which is honest enough to say "This project is not for commercial purposes, nor it is related to any academic research. It was created because. That's it. Just because."

'Just because' is good enough for me ;)


But for a credit whore, are their credits as good as MW?

The Gas Giant, are you saying that everyone who crunches for Collatz Conjecture is a 'credit whore'?

On the contrary Ice. I was implying that I'm a credit whore and will only crunch projects that give me good credit....except for Malaria Control, oh and LHC (when they have work), oh and some PrimeGrid.

I suppose I'm implying that if Collatz does not give as good credit as MW I will only crunch it on my GPU(s) if MW has no work.....

I see, thanks for qualifying. I just hate to have my ATIs idle when MW goes down.
331) Message boards : Number crunching : Database Borked Again? (Message 31660)
Posted 28 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Its now time to run, not walk to your local collatz store for more work...Smile..

OK, there is a project that can make use of idle ATI cards when MW is down (again). And yes I use it since I hate to have my ATI cards idle whilst still drawing yottajoules from the nation grid. Thanks to Collatz Conjecture and a project which is honest enough to say "This project is not for commercial purposes, nor it is related to any academic research. It was created because. That's it. Just because."

'Just because' is good enough for me ;)


But for a credit whore, are their credits as good as MW?

The Gas Giant, are you saying that everyone who crunches for Collatz Conjecture is a 'credit whore'?
332) Message boards : Number crunching : Database Borked Again? (Message 31655)
Posted 28 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
"This project is not for commercial purposes, nor it is related to any academic research. It was created because. That's it. Just because."

'Just because' is good enough for me ;)

I don't think i twas "just because" ...

I was quoting the Collatz Conjecture Project administrator/Project developer/Project tester/Project scientist

I would say it's what he thinks that counts, not what you think.

If he says it was "just because", then it was, and is.

333) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31642)
Posted 27 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



drip


334) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 31641)
Posted 27 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So... What is the real problem here.. - and who of us have most if it? ;-))

Aww bless. You're an agony aunt. OK, here goes...

Dear Deidre,
My girlfriend and I have been saving for months to move to the coast but last night she asked me if she could buy me a very expensive new camera. Obviously I'm flattered and if we weren't saving every penny for our new house I'd say yes in an instant, but I feel guilty accepting it at the moment. What should I do?

Anyways.. We are all in the same boat -

It's OK, the camera is so expensive it's even waterproof.

335) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 31639)
Posted 27 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Join us...

(Refresh your browser for an alternative picture)

Team England (Boinc)
336) Message boards : Number crunching : Database Borked Again? (Message 31635)
Posted 27 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Its now time to run, not walk to your local collatz store for more work...Smile..

OK, there is a project that can make use of idle ATI cards when MW is down (again). And yes I use it since I hate to have my ATI cards idle whilst still drawing yottajoules from the nation grid. Thanks to Collatz Conjecture and a project which is honest enough to say "This project is not for commercial purposes, nor it is related to any academic research. It was created because. That's it. Just because."

'Just because' is good enough for me ;)

337) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31634)
Posted 27 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


~ rumba


338) Message boards : Number crunching : Scripts (Message 31629)
Posted 27 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I see that scripts are coming back into fashion.

Can anyone tell me a script command to close down the BOINC Manager? I don't mean the --quit command; what I'm looking for is something that is the same as pressing 'File > exit' in BOINC Manager.

Thanks in advance.
339) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 31597)
Posted 26 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well done Lord Tedric! . . .

7 million MW credits
and soon to be
9 million BOINC credits





340) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application Updated (Message 31596)
Posted 26 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have crunched some units with the new app. and they last 3:20 (200 seconds) with a stock GTX280. This graphic card took 6:30 (390 seconds) with the previous one.

Impressive: 95% faster than before.

Not quite 95% faster...you may want to redo your maths.

Edboard and I must have went to the same school then.

I think you're both right - we should all be given 95% more credit immediatley.

341) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : how to delete team (Message 31595)
Posted 26 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
well is there a central place I can do this or do I have to go project to project?

I have already deleted the team from several projects only to have it reappear a few days later in those very same projects.

Try here; http://boinc.berkeley.edu/teams/

or here; http://boincstats.com/bam/
342) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 31587)
Posted 26 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
But you have to admit we are doing good, quick science relatively cheaply....

I don't know about that, but it's the only way I'll ever be able to do some science.

And mix it up with some scientists and wannabe scientists :P
343) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31586)
Posted 26 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


~ soap (as in " blarney")


344) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 31438)
Posted 24 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

An admission of crunching for credit and not for science. Have fun in the top 100 but complaining about your electricity bill isn't allowed. Thanks to this particular project the notion of comparing credits is silly.

I'd better stop crunching then, since I have no idea about the science or the time to try and be a scientist. I didn't realize I had to be a scientist to take part in BOINC, and naively thought that simply wanting to help science whilst having some fun with credits was enough.

Clearly it's not enough. I don't want to blindly help science with no understanding of what my electricity is going down the drain for, so for me it's bye bye to the top 100 and all admission that I have no idea of what I'm crunching for.

Normality has been achieved.
345) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31413)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


desolate

346) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.10.6 released (Message 31406)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I'm staying with 5.10.45


347) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 31405)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


history

348) Message boards : Number crunching : HD5870 (Message 31403)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
These are certainly going to keep some houses warm this winter. With an idle power draw of 27W, rising to 188W under full load, these bricks will draw enough power to dim and flicker street lighting even if you had the PSUs to run them.

349) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 31401)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Who would have thought, at the dawn of this year, that before the summer was out some of us could achieve a credit total in MilkyWay of




Congrats on 42 Million !

I would have never thought at the beginning of this year, that
I would be able to make it up to 1 Million on any project !

After 4.5 long years crunching on Einstein @ Home I have only
made it up to 440K.


Regards,

Bill


Well done on the million Bill. I can remember feeling pretty good about getting my first million. Now the target is set on the 50, and who knows, 100 billion billion ;)


At the rate this project doles out credit you may exceed the max variable value by next Tuesday.

Massing billions of credits is all very well. But getting into the BOINC top 100 must be something else.

Credibility seems to be rising, but normality might need one or two of the more whizzy cards that are coming along.

350) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : how to delete team (Message 31364)
Posted 23 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The title is pretty self explanatory.
I accidentally created a team a while back and now I want to delete it because the creation emails are getting annoying.

Go to "my account > administer" to delete the team.

Only a founder can delete a team (not a team admin).

A team can only be deleted if there are no members
(there is an option in "administer" to delete members).

351) Message boards : Number crunching : Why No Work? (Message 31292)
Posted 21 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
......... this is an unusually long time to be without any news at all.

Nasdaq is up five points
352) Message boards : Number crunching : Why No Work? (Message 31290)
Posted 21 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Been crunching Collatz for 24 hours now

That Collatz has skewed up my signature. Now I have another project with big(ish) credits coming through ;)
353) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 31289)
Posted 21 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And I don't NEED to do anything. It was just a voluntary effort from my side, because I got curious how fast it would be. What did I get from that? A load of work and nothing else. I could have spent my time also with something more important.

The work put in by Gipsel and others is awesome and quite rightly he didn't NEED to do it or let any of us benefit from it. Cheers Gipsel and testers etc. You're the best!

354) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 31235)
Posted 20 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, why don't you, in Windows, switch off the use of the sleep button?

To answer your question elendil, it's not that I don't. I can't.

It sleeps and I just can't keep it awake.

If only I knew how...

Write a script. There seems to be plenty of those going around.

Strangely enough, sans script, it sleeps no more.

But then, complying to hypnotic suggestion, I must have done just that - gone to my Windows and switched off the sleep ;)

Or it could be the coffee I brewed. It's extra strong. Hell.

Coffee will be strong in Hell. Otherwise I take my business to Starbucks.

But hell, how did elendil know I've been having trouble with my sleep button? It's spooky. As hell should be. Now the button is switched off and it stops drifting into sleep. And I've stopped cursing it. And feeling the need to throw it through my Windows...

Penguin farmer.

Penguins are OK, especially the MMX kind. But I prefer Intels in my farm.

355) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 31233)
Posted 20 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, why don't you, in Windows, switch off the use of the sleep button?

To answer your question elendil, it's not that I don't. I can't.

It sleeps and I just can't keep it awake.

If only I knew how...

Write a script. There seems to be plenty of those going around.

Strangely enough, sans script, it sleeps no more.

But then, complying to hypnotic suggestion, I must have done just that - gone to my Windows and switched off the sleep ;)

Or it could be the coffee I brewed. It's extra strong. Hell.

Coffee will be strong in Hell. Otherwise I take my business to Starbucks.

But hell, how did elendil know I've been having trouble with my sleep button? It's spooky. As hell should be. Now the button is switched off and it stops drifting into sleep. And I've stopped cursing it. And feeling the need to throw it through my Windows...
356) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 31162)
Posted 19 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, why don't you, in Windows, switch off the use of the sleep button?

To answer your question elendil, it's not that I don't. I can't.

It sleeps and I just can't keep it awake.

If only I knew how...

Write a script. There seems to be plenty of those going around.

Strangely enough, sans script, it sleeps no more.

But then, complying to hypnotic suggestion, I must have done just that - gone to my Windows and switched off the sleep ;)
357) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 31151)
Posted 18 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, why don't you, in Windows, switch off the use of the sleep button?

To answer your question elendil, it's not that I don't. I can't.

It sleeps and I just can't keep it awake.

If only I knew how...
358) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 31074)
Posted 16 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The updated package is available here. Besides the new Win32_SSE version everything else is identical, no need to change anything for users the SSE2/3 or Win64 versions.

The new Win32_SSE is also available on brilliantsite

The full link for brilliantsite is www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway
359) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 31057)
Posted 16 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The updated package is available here. Besides the new Win32_SSE version everything else is identical, no need to change anything for users the SSE2/3 or Win64 versions.

The new Win32_SSE is also available on brilliantsite
360) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 31014)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Thapot depopeponds ipof thepoy aporepo uposipong gapordepon hoposepos wipoth thepoipor gopolf bapolls. Ipo lipoke plapoyipong wipoth gopoopogle. Kipoll yopoupor spepoepod.

Busat nosat esavesayosanesa casan sesaesa thesa besanesafisats osaf asa cosaosal sasaasak wisath jesallisaesad esaesals.

Mfffmp'fmm mmmpmfpmf pfmmmmfmpfmpmpppffppp pffmppmmfppfmfmpppmfffmpmffppfppp mmmpppffmfppmmmffm. Mff mmfmmmppp pffmppmmmmpm ppmppffmmfmp ppfmpf fmpmfpmpp fppppfpffmpmfmm fppmfffmpmfpppffmffmp mpmmppmmfmffpfmmfpmpppffmffpppmfm fmpmfpmppppm mpfmffpfffmmfmp. Mpmppf ffmppffmf fppmmmppppppmmm mpmmmmfmpmpp ppmffm mmmfpmmmmfmpmmmpff?

Sure. Why not?

Mmffmfffp ffmppffmf'mpm mfpmmmfpmmpp fmpppf fppmmmmfffmp mffppp pmfmffpppmpp. Mmpfmffmp mmmfmp pmfmppmmmfmmfmp fmpmfpmpp pmfmffpppmpp mfpmmmfmm mfffmpfmm ppffppppp fpmmpppmffpmmppfmp pffppfpfmmpp.

Oh. That bad huh? Huhuat huha thuuaan uhuaka thuha huhutraan Uh huhuay.

You gonna make me do that without a primer?

Dhuohun't bhuehuahut suhohu shuihullany. Ahaha thuohup chaohahuat whaihull baheah jahuhuhust fhuhaihuneah.
And don't forget the nooks. Puopurpa picparpuaponpenpuipaepas!

I got your silly. You went from speaking English to speaking British. Which is untranslatable. You and your purple pineapples/penguins/guinnea pigs.

You can have my silly :P As for switching from English to British - I never thought you'd get that so quickly ;) Yopau dapa mapan!

Bloody hell.

Hesill jupayupaeplupus.
361) Message boards : Number crunching : [error] wrong size (Message 31004)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I see you have 6.10.4 and Gipsel 0.20 running, so what do you have for a Cat version?

I'm trying to get my 4850 going and am getting a 'no child processes' error on XP64 SP2. I'm assuming this is the Cat 9x problem rearing its ugly head since I already did the amd/ati dll duplication and the VC 2005 runtime update.

<edit> OOPs, I just noticed you're talking about Cpu apps here, so you may not have the answer I'm looking for! ;-)

Alinator

That's right. On this laptop I am running MW CPU. The onboard NVIDIA is not up to MW minimum requirements (and therefore no Cat).
362) Message boards : Number crunching : Constant errors on connecting MW (Message 31002)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think the new version of the GPU app is making the server pretty strained again. I'll see what I can do but I'm not sure how much faster we can get her going :D

It just got a lot better some minutes ago!

Hope it stays that way.


I reduced the feeder sleep time to 1 second (down from 2). Sadly I think this is the most we can make the feeder work, so if we go through any more extensive optimizations or have a large influx of users we're really going to need to get another server machine.

How about calling it Milkyway_gpu? :p
363) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 30994)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well that pattern has been solved...




Have they proved that crop circles are made by aliens?

Crop circles are made by excessive internet advertising.

I usually use a stick or three and some string :p
364) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30992)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Thapot depopeponds ipof thepoy aporepo uposipong gapordepon hoposepos wipoth thepoipor gopolf bapolls. Ipo lipoke plapoyipong wipoth gopoopogle. Kipoll yopoupor spepoepod.

Busat nosat esavesayosanesa casan sesaesa thesa besanesafisats osaf asa cosaosal sasaasak wisath jesallisaesad esaesals.

Mfffmp'fmm mmmpmfpmf pfmmmmfmpfmpmpppffppp pffmppmmfppfmfmpppmfffmpmffppfppp mmmpppffmfppmmmffm. Mff mmfmmmppp pffmppmmmmpm ppmppffmmfmp ppfmpf fmpmfpmpp fppppfpffmpmfmm fppmfffmpmfpppffmffmp mpmmppmmfmffpfmmfpmpppffmffpppmfm fmpmfpmppppm mpfmffpfffmmfmp. Mpmppf ffmppffmf fppmmmppppppmmm mpmmmmfmpmpp ppmffm mmmfpmmmmfmpmmmpff?

Sure. Why not?

Mmffmfffp ffmppffmf'mpm mfpmmmfpmmpp fmpppf fppmmmmfffmp mffppp pmfmffpppmpp. Mmpfmffmp mmmfmp pmfmppmmmfmmfmp fmpmfpmpp pmfmffpppmpp mfpmmmfmm mfffmpfmm ppffppppp fpmmpppmffpmmppfmp pffppfpfmmpp.

Oh. That bad huh? Huhuat huha thuuaan uhuaka thuha huhutraan Uh huhuay.

You gonna make me do that without a primer?

Dhuohun't bhuehuahut suhohu shuihullany. Ahaha thuohup chaohahuat whaihull baheah jahuhuhust fhuhaihuneah.
And don't forget the nooks. Puopurpa picparpuaponpenpuipaepas!

I got your silly. You went from speaking English to speaking British. Which is untranslatable. You and your purple pineapples/penguins/guinnea pigs.

You can have my silly :P As for switching from English to British - I never thought you'd get that so quickly ;) Yopau dapa mapan!
365) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 30980)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well that pattern has been solved...




Have they proved that crop circles are made by aliens?
366) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30977)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Thapot depopeponds ipof thepoy aporepo uposipong gapordepon hoposepos wipoth thepoipor gopolf bapolls. Ipo lipoke plapoyipong wipoth gopoopogle. Kipoll yopoupor spepoepod.

Busat nosat esavesayosanesa casan sesaesa thesa besanesafisats osaf asa cosaosal sasaasak wisath jesallisaesad esaesals.

Mfffmp'fmm mmmpmfpmf pfmmmmfmpfmpmpppffppp pffmppmmfppfmfmpppmfffmpmffppfppp mmmpppffmfppmmmffm. Mff mmfmmmppp pffmppmmmmpm ppmppffmmfmp ppfmpf fmpmfpmpp fppppfpffmpmfmm fppmfffmpmfpppffmffmp mpmmppmmfmffpfmmfpmpppffmffpppmfm fmpmfpmppppm mpfmffpfffmmfmp. Mpmppf ffmppffmf fppmmmppppppmmm mpmmmmfmpmpp ppmffm mmmfpmmmmfmpmmmpff?

Sure. Why not?

Mmffmfffp ffmppffmf'mpm mfpmmmfpmmpp fmpppf fppmmmmfffmp mffppp pmfmffpppmpp. Mmpfmffmp mmmfmp pmfmppmmmfmmfmp fmpmfpmpp pmfmffpppmpp mfpmmmfmm mfffmpfmm ppffppppp fpmmpppmffpmmppfmp pffppfpfmmpp.

Oh. That bad huh? Huhuat huha thuuaan uhuaka thuha huhutraan Uh huhuay.

You gonna make me do that without a primer?

Dhuohun't bhuehuahut suhohu shuihullany. Ahaha thuohup chaohahuat whaihull baheah jahuhuhust fhuhaihuneah.
And don't forget the nooks. Puopurpa picparpuaponpenpuipaepas!
367) Message boards : Number crunching : [error] wrong size (Message 30970)
Posted 15 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I just spotted a couple of these in my BOINC Manager;

15/09/2009 17:20:37 Milkyway@home [error] File gs_constrainted_15_3s_6_search_parameters_927169_1253031021 has wrong size: expected 474, got 0


It's not causing me any pain right now and I am getting very few invalid WUs. This is reporting on CPU WUs in 6.10.4 using 0.20 CPU op app
368) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 30889)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Join us...




369) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30840)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


port (preferably a nice tawny)


370) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Can I justify electricity costs for MW? (Message 30839)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Each of my P4 base units takes 120W 24/7, and obviously all the monitors are turned off unless I need to work on them. I could significantly increase my RAC and decrease my electric bill by chucking the lot out, and getting a couple of decent quad core machines with twin 4870's in them. But the capital outlay just isn't possible.

I could significantly increase my RAC if I didn't turn off my computers every time I went away on holiday.
371) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30838)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Thapot depopeponds ipof thepoy aporepo uposipong gapordepon hoposepos wipoth thepoipor gopolf bapolls. Ipo lipoke plapoyipong wipoth gopoopogle. Kipoll yopoupor spepoepod.

Busat nosat esavesayosanesa casan sesaesa thesa besanesafisats osaf asa cosaosal sasaasak wisath jesallisaesad esaesals.

Mfffmp'fmm mmmpmfpmf pfmmmmfmpfmpmpppffppp pffmppmmfppfmfmpppmfffmpmffppfppp mmmpppffmfppmmmffm. Mff mmfmmmppp pffmppmmmmpm ppmppffmmfmp ppfmpf fmpmfpmpp fppppfpffmpmfmm fppmfffmpmfpppffmffmp mpmmppmmfmffpfmmfpmpppffmffpppmfm fmpmfpmppppm mpfmffpfffmmfmp. Mpmppf ffmppffmf fppmmmppppppmmm mpmmmmfmpmpp ppmffm mmmfpmmmmfmpmmmpff?

Sure. Why not?

Mmffmfffp ffmppffmf'mpm mfpmmmfpmmpp fmpppf fppmmmmfffmp mffppp pmfmffpppmpp. Mmpfmffmp mmmfmp pmfmppmmmfmmfmp fmpmfpmpp pmfmffpppmpp mfpmmmfmm mfffmpfmm ppffppppp fpmmpppmffpmmppfmp pffppfpfmmpp.

Oh. That bad huh? Huhuat huha thuuaan uhuaka thuha huhutraan Uh huhuay.
372) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 30778)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


50 million overall BOINC


373) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 30777)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Are the new 64 SEE 3 faster than the old 19 SEE 4.1, and are the new 20 SEE 3 faster than the old 19 SEE 3?

because my RAC is dropping like a rock and I know other projects would give me more.... just a little pissed that the ATI thing has effected the CPU only crowd... I believe we were here first, and are now being treated like someones old gum that I stepped in walking down the street on a hot day.. ewwwww

I do believe that CPU 0.20 came out before ATI 0.20, therefore you 'CPU guys' (and I am still one of them) get the preference ;)
374) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30776)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Speed increase just astonishing.

So let's just check what the credit reduction has done for you.

Before: 74 credits / 67 seconds = 1.10 credits per second
After: 53 credits / 46 seconds = 1.15 credits per second

Nice reduction, isn't it? :D[/quote]
Very nice Cluster Physik :D
375) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 30744)
Posted 14 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So what is the result? One can now point every cross project parity fanatic to the credit multiplier matching the equivalent value of SETI by saying MW gets high credits on ATIs just because they are so much faster! Furthermore nothing has changed to the worse here, quite to the contrary. The app is now delivering better results even faster than before.

Hey that's not fair. I was enjoying that argument and then you go and speed up it all up and give me even more credits. I demand you reduce the credits further so that we can continue this interesting 'debate' :P
376) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30737)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks again Cluster Physik. Downloads for the 0.20 ATI version as well as the new 0.20 CPU version are also available on brilliantsite

It's almost tomorrow here (2 minutes of today are left). I guess it will be okay to post a link to the GPU version 0.20 then.

Changes are as already mentioned a higher accuracy with results exactly matching my latest CPU versions which have increased the accuracy above that of the stock app. These differences in the result are all well within the limits given by the project, so I think it is okay to implement it unilaterally so to say. But it should be possible to tighten these limits when the changes are ported to the stock app as well as the CUDA app (Travis and Anthony were given notice of those changes some days ago). This should enable less noisy results which may improve the convergence of the searches.

But I guess most are concerned by the speed of the new versions. I invite everyone to compare their credits/day with the 0.19 versions before the credit reduction and now with the 0.20 version after the reduction ;)

And really important not only this time: Read the readme.txt included in the package!
The included app_info.xml is already made for the new 6.10.x BOINC clients (hope there will be a good working version within in a few days). If you use another one, you may need to remove the <coproc></coproc> statements and adjust the <avg_ncpus> value (i.e. raise it to your needs).
377) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30719)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Ummmmmm. The 0.20ati is...... fast! :)

378) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 30705)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
According to recent stats MW was biggest credit generator, so my assumption has some sence ;)

The top 107th BOINC cruncher does not crunch MW. If my credits are cut, and theirs is not because they don't crunch MW, then they will gain on me and my efforts are thus thwarted by the MW cuts.

Now, add that to all the others who don't crunch MW and who are now taking advantage of my (and your) thwarted efforts...
379) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30701)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Ice (no cream, makes one word ;)


380) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 30698)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Others lost credit too so your place in top 100 will not change much.
If only your credit was lwered it would be different situation ;)

Ah, but not all others are crunching MW, so I get cut while they don't ;)

381) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Can I justify electricity costs for MW? (Message 30697)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
When I first heard about BOINC many years ago I was thrilled to be able to do something with my PC to contribute to science.

Whether I can afford it or not, I guess I still am ;)
382) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit lowering (Message 30695)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This concerns me. I am trying hard to get into thye BOINC top 100. I stand at 106 currently. Credits are not secondary. They may be for you, but they may not be for others. Thwarting achievements by manipulating credits - well, you may as well thwart continuing interest to participate in this or any project.

With respect, I join those sounding concern about the credit reductions and hope to hear what the project has to say about it soon.
383) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30693)
Posted 13 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My 0.20 versions for CPUs are ready and available for download here.


Thanks Cluster Physik / Gipsel

Downloads are also available here; http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway
384) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30616)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


isolation

385) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30615)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Thapot depopeponds ipof thepoy aporepo uposipong gapordepon hoposepos wipoth thepoipor gopolf bapolls. Ipo lipoke plapoyipong wipoth gopoopogle. Kipoll yopoupor spepoepod.

Busat nosat esavesayosanesa casan sesaesa thesa besanesafisats osaf asa cosaosal sasaasak wisath jesallisaesad esaesals.

Mfffmp'fmm mmmpmfpmf pfmmmmfmpfmpmpppffppp pffmppmmfppfmfmpppmfffmpmffppfppp mmmpppffmfppmmmffm. Mff mmfmmmppp pffmppmmmmpm ppmppffmmfmp ppfmpf fmpmfpmpp fppppfpffmpmfmm fppmfffmpmfpppffmffmp mpmmppmmfmffpfmmfpmpppffmffpppmfm fmpmfpmppppm mpfmffpfffmmfmp. Mpmppf ffmppffmf fppmmmppppppmmm mpmmmmfmpmpp ppmffm mmmfpmmmmfmpmmmpff?

Sure. Why not?

386) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30613)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The 'zslip' optimized apps web page has been transferred to;

http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway

zslip.com will redirect to the above link for a while, until the meter runs out...

Dude you need to PM me with stuff like this.

It's OK, zslip will still work until the beginning of November. Then I have one less website to worry about. brilliantsite will do the job nicely ;)
387) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30549)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


road

388) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30548)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More problems with Craigslist here and here.

Maybe there should have a warning "Don't open this link if your boss might walk behind you and is the type who will stop and say - "Is that appropriate?" as he reaches for his disciplinary manual".

You shouldn't be on Craigslist while at work.

No, quite right. But then again, who's working? :p

I knew you were a biker drifter. Hell.

This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Thapot depopeponds ipof thepoy aporepo uposipong gapordepon hoposepos wipoth thepoipor gopolf bapolls. Ipo lipoke plapoyipong wipoth gopoopogle. Kipoll yopoupor spepoepod.

Busat nosat esavesayosanesa casan sesaesa thesa besanesafisats osaf asa cosaosal sasaasak wisath jesallisaesad esaesals.
389) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 30546)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well I downloaded SSE2 again. Shut down BOINC. Copied everything into the specified file. Restarted it.

It still is doing the work at an average of .010% per second. That's exactly what it was doing before.

Do you see something like this in you BPOINC manager in the messages tab, soon after starting the manager? ;

11/09/2009 21:42:57 Milkyway@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
390) Message boards : Number crunching : Temporary Availability of the ATI application through BOINC (Message 30544)
Posted 12 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Because I have to leave before the test starts and I'm not letting a pre-alpha test run completely unattended.

Been there, done that (too many times)

I thought MW was and alpha test all along, and we've been taking the risk with ATI these past months to run it unattended at times. Even I have to go to the loo sometimes :p But then the rewards have been high and I'm hitting a BOINC total of 50 million any time now ;)

If I find the time I'll have a go with this this 'temporary availablity' and not miss out on the fun :)

391) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30483)
Posted 11 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
ok del
but bounc not run's
and in folder i see --
astronomy_0.19_ATI_SSE2f.exe
astronomy_0.19_ATI_x64f.exe
astronomy_0.19g_ATI_x64.exe

p.s. after 10 min OK

senks

You're welcome. Glad you got it working.
392) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30479)
Posted 11 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


bye

393) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30476)
Posted 11 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


surf

394) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30474)
Posted 11 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No it is not
I use http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway/win-ati-19g/ati_0.19g_win64.zip but boinc
loads astronomy_0.19g_ATI.exe
and in the folder of the project are
astronomy_0.19g_ATI.exe
astronomy_0.19g_ATI_SSE2.exe
astronomy_0.19g_ATI_x64.exe

You should only have one file beginning astronomy_0.19g_ATI_... in the projects/milkyway.cs.rpi.edu_milkyway folder. Which file is that which is most appropriate for your PC.

In your case I suspect you want astronomy_0.19g_ATI_x64.exe, and you should delete the other 2.

395) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30465)
Posted 10 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


storey

396) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30464)
Posted 10 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
i got new app (win7x64-driver 9.5 boinc -6.6.38)
astronomy_0.19g_ATI.exe
work's gut
but were x64 app???

It's right there in brilliantsite.com and offers ati_0.19g_win64.zip.exe if you click on Win64 which will extract astronomy_0.19g_ATI_x64.exe;

version 0.19g : Win32_x87, Win32_SSE2, Win64


397) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30450)
Posted 10 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


ocean

398) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30420)
Posted 9 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


universe


399) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30415)
Posted 9 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


to God

400) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30387)
Posted 8 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


pad

401) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30358)
Posted 7 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



eyes


402) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 30336)
Posted 7 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
[edit]and reset the project[/edit]


I'm now running 6.6.36 and getting MW CPU as well as Collatz GPU.
403) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 30334)
Posted 7 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
>a) Ok, but how come I don't get any MilkyWay tasks ever?

What I mean is, "fine you don't want to give me GPU tasks that's your problem. BUT why don't you give me CPU tasks??"

I've had the same problem. I have a CUDA NVIDIA in my laptop, but it is not Computational level 2.3, or whatever the term is. I would like to crunch MW CPU whilst using my GPU for something else. So I set GPU=no, CPU=Yes.

But I get no MW WUs at all.

I've tried 5.10.45 and get my MW CPU WUs, but can't use my NVIDIA. Except for seeing what I'm typing on the screen ;)
404) Message boards : Number crunching : Not requesting new work (Message 30332)
Posted 7 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I currently have no tasks running and yet BOINC doesnt want to request new tasks. Why?
Have version 6.6.3

Try suspending your other projects. Resume them after you have your MW WUs.

405) Message boards : Number crunching : 6.10.1 Posted. (Message 30298)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
One setup that doesn't work, Ice, is the blue writing on blue background of your boincstats sig. Some colour combination with greater contrast would make it more legible to these old eyes. :)

Oh, I think it's just right, I can read my sig just fine. I'm not sure why anyone else would want to read my sig or thego degoligoghts thagot cagon bego fogound ogon my sigognagoturego agonywagoy, bugot I'm sugorego igot's vegory igontegoregostigong fogor yogou. Negoegodlegoss togo sagoy, I like it just as it is ;)

406) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : England win the Ashes! (Message 30278)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Well what do you know, even the women beat Australia this summer.



Charlotte Edwards led the England team as they retained the women's Ashes at Worcester.


407) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30277)
Posted 6 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More problems with Craigslist here and here.

Maybe there should have a warning "Don't open this link if your boss might walk behind you and is the type who will stop and say - "Is that appropriate?" as he reaches for his disciplinary manual".

You shouldn't be on Craigslist while at work.

No, quite right. But then again, who's working? :p

I knew you were a biker drifter. Hell.

This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?

Can anyone else make themselves understood with a golf ball in their mouth?
408) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 30244)
Posted 5 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


The thread "www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway - 0.19g is out", up to recently called "zslip.com - optimized apps", has now had over 30,000 Views.



409) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 30211)
Posted 4 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More problems with Craigslist here and here.

Maybe there should have a warning "Don't open this link if your boss might walk behind you and is the type who will stop and say - "Is that appropriate?" as he reaches for his disciplinary manual".

You shouldn't be on Craigslist while at work.

No, quite right. But then again, who's working? :p

I knew you were a biker drifter. Hell.

This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.

Asiftesir asi dosizesin attesimpts asit fosixlisingosi Isi fisigusiresid isit osiusit.

Dopo yopoupo thiponk aponyoponepo epolsepo ipos opontopo thipos?
410) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30209)
Posted 4 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

waterworks

411) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 30206)
Posted 4 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
#3 in overall BOINC seems a bit more of a milestone :)

Well done Kevint. Just another 107 places and I'm right behind you ;)

412) Message boards : Number crunching : 6.10.1 Posted. (Message 30205)
Posted 4 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
By the way 6.10.3 has been posted for Windows now.

Will it fetch me MW CPU WUs even though I have set GPU=no and CPU=yes,

I know I have a NVIDIA CUDA which isn't up to MW minimum requirements, but I'm not sure how much longer I can face MW telling me that there is no work available for me :( ;P


Hi Ice
I have the opposite problem, I'm set to GPU only, but all I'm getting is CPU using 6.10.3.

I tried that, but with 6.10.2/1 and got a similar result, ie, you get the opposite of what you want ;)

Congrats on the new machine :)

413) Message boards : Number crunching : 2+ 4890s on ame system? (Message 30185)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
never mind I got it worked out somehow... just don't ask me to explain it...

Apo wiporepoleposs liponk bepotwepoepon thepo twopo? :Ppo



Damn that is exactly what I did how did you know?

It's the cardboard cut-out situation. Talk to a cardboard cut out of a person who doesn't reply (or replies in gibberish) and before you know it you've got it sorted ;)
414) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link IV (Message 30184)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

bluejeans

415) Message boards : Number crunching : 6.10.1 Posted. (Message 30182)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
By the way 6.10.3 has been posted for Windows now.

Will it fetch me MW CPU WUs even though I have set GPU=no and CPU=yes,

I know I have a NVIDIA CUDA which isn't up to MW minimum requirements, but I'm not sure how much longer I can face MW telling me that there is no work available for me :( ;P

416) Message boards : Number crunching : 2+ 4890s on ame system? (Message 30181)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
never mind I got it worked out somehow... just don't ask me to explain it...

Apo wiporepoleposs liponk bepotwepoepon thepo twopo? :Ppo


417) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30175)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Version 0.19g is now available for ATI GPUs.

Thanks again to Gipsel and to the testers : HiRN, Emploi, Indiana_74 and other people of Team Planet3DNow!, http://www.planet3dnow.de

You can also find downloads here; http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway

Don't forget to read the readme.txt file that comes with the downloads.
418) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 30170)
Posted 3 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thapot ipos juspot fapontapostipoc ipof Ipo mipoght sapoy sopo


Youpo Mipoght, youpo dipod apond Ipo apogreepo!

Apoll mipolestoponepos arepo juspot fapontapostipoc ipon mypo opopiponiopon.

(My apologies if I made an error, different variant to what I normally use)

It looks totally clear to me ;)
419) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 30123)
Posted 2 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:







420) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30089)
Posted 1 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The 'zslip' optimized apps web page has been transferred to;

http://www.brilliantsite.com/milkyway

zslip.com will redirect to the above link for a while, until the meter runs out...
421) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : As if we didn't already know... (Message 30085)
Posted 1 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The video shows maps down to street name level, and showing individual buildings. all along South England. Nothing we didn't know already and were fully aware of, but it does bring it home to you that the ruskies can never be underestimated. As far as I'm concerned the Iron Curtain is still there and always will be.

They sure are Soviet invasion maps from 1986. Prepare to be boarded :/

422) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Bumper Stickers (Message 30079)
Posted 1 Sep 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


This has been on my car for a few years now, ever since I started BOINCing with Climate;

Earth first - we'll screw up the other planets later


423) Message boards : Number crunching : A Tale of Two OS (Message 30057)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
p.s. i dont claim to be a pc god....just an advanced nOOb

You don't have to be a god to give out some useful advice. I'm trying out your tweeks, and so far they look pretty useful. Thanks for that Mark.
424) Message boards : Number crunching : A Tale of Two OS (Message 30056)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You could always install linux :D

Personally, I love my macs, and can't imagine what it would take for me to go back to windows.

Maybe one day I'll take the plunge with linux, but the prospect of the learning curve is giving me a headache already :p
425) Message boards : Number crunching : A Tale of Two OS (Message 30027)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2238


In summary, turn off everything that is supposed to make Vista, um, er, Vista ...




lol yes, turn off UAC, animate windows when min/max, superfetch in services, install servicepack 2 and turn off system restore is what i do right off the bat.

i see no reason to go back to xp, hated 98, xp was great in its day but starting to look dated compared to vista and max os.

just my two cents

grayhoose, can you elaborate that a little, more (eg, how to superfetch in services). I'm stuck with a Vista host that I'd like to, errr, get working if possible. One of the tips I got was to restore the desktop to Classic Themes. Anything else?

426) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 30026)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Never mind about the unhealthy eating or binge drinking habits, just bring your grunching to Team England.

Where you pass out is up to you :P





427) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 30025)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If I have the optimised app and app_info file from zslip will that stop me getting the new CUDA wu that are out for NVIDEA GPU's.


They should work together okay


The app_info from zslip only affects work for ATI GPUs. The 6.*.* versions of BOINC that detect CUDA will start or stop work for CUDA, not the presence of any app_info for ATI.
428) Message boards : Number crunching : MW@H vs BOINC (Message 30014)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
"try this, try that". I've got better things to do, ...

Sounds familiar. But then if we've got better things to do, why do we spend so much time on BOINC with "try this, try that" ?

It's a mystery. But then again, if you want it to work you have to




429) Message boards : Number crunching : No work?! (Message 30012)
Posted 31 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Not quite sure what happened but I just restarted things not too long ago. Gonna have to watch it and see what's going on.


Travis, it's because you are trying to have a real life.

Computers are vindictive and mean. ;)



If i go out skiing or to some party, almost invariably the server crashes while i'm away :)

We're going to have to fit you up with a wireless buzzer so that when we punch in a url you dance twice as fast and realize the non-party goers are begging for work ;)

430) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 29844)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Who would have thought, at the dawn of this year, that before the summer was out some of us could achieve a credit total in MilkyWay of




Congrats on 42 Million !

I would have never thought at the beginning of this year, that
I would be able to make it up to 1 Million on any project !

After 4.5 long years crunching on Einstein @ Home I have only
made it up to 440K.


Regards,

Bill


Well done on the million Bill. I can remember feeling pretty good about getting my first million. Now the target is set on the 50, and who knows, 100 billion billion ;)

431) Message boards : Number crunching : 6.10.1 Posted. (Message 29841)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Anyone having scheduling issues on 6.10.1?

I updated my 6.10.0 machines to it last night across the board and by this morning all my machines are idle on all projects. I'm just getting not requesting tasks.

I can't get any MW work on one host running 6.10.1 - see here;

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1083&nowrap=true#29767
432) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 29839)
Posted 28 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Who would have thought, at the dawn of this year, that before the summer was out some of us could achieve a credit total in MilkyWay of

,000,000

Please don't be alarmed, but credibility has risen and abnormality has now been achieved. Whatever you do, keep grunching and



433) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 29783)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've set GPU to no, but it it's trying for it anyway, and I'm not getting any work at all:


Maybe any local settings in the manager?

I don't think so aad. I've tried suspending all other projects except for MW and it still seems to be trying to get GPU WUs, even though I have set GPU = no, and CPU = yes. It could be that it detects I have a CUDA capable GPU, ignores my request for GPU = no, and then decides I am not compute capable 1.3, but does not recognize I am asking for CPU WUs. Anthony is looking into this I expect. Right now I am unable to get any work for this host since, it seems, I have a CUDA GPU, but not capable enough, which also stops me getting CPU WUs.

[edit] I've had another look at the local settings in my manager and can't see anything that could be causing the problem. I have 'Use GPU while computer is in use' checked. I tried unchecking it, but my manager is still requesting new tasks for GPU and I'm still getting no MW work.
434) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 29779)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm not quite sure how BOINC decides which platform to request tasks for (GPU or CPU) but I will try BOINC 6.10 over the next day to see if that is the source of the issue.

I tried to downgrade to 6.6.36, but got an error and the BOINC manager wouldn't run, so had to go back to 6.10.1



I sent you a PM based on my analysis, if other users start reporting similar issues I'll post a public message without any private information.

I've replied to that, thanks Anthony. Very impressive analysis - you're very CUDA capable methinks ;)

435) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : layman questions (Message 29778)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hello,
I have processed about 5k units in this project. But I still have no idea what I have contributed to! Is there somewhere on this site that can explain to a dummy like me what is going on? One small page wouldn't hurt would it? Is the data creating the image files? (png/jpg's). Are BOINC users helping? Example would be the old grid.org, seti : they at least made effort to inform users where/what the units where.

Thanks
Dan

Yes, there is one small page, and it doesn't hurt too much. It's called the home page - http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/

You can also try this thread - http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=643#11115


436) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 29769)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm not quite sure how BOINC decides which platform to request tasks for (GPU or CPU) but I will try BOINC 6.10 over the next day to see if that is the source of the issue.

I tried to downgrade to 6.6.36, but got an error and the BOINC manager wouldn't run, so had to go back to 6.10.1

437) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 29767)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've set GPU to no, but it it's trying for it anyway, and I'm not getting any work at all:

Use GPUs for Computation? no
Use CPU for Computation? yes


27/08/2009 01:03:07 Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
27/08/2009 01:03:13 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
27/08/2009 01:03:13 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent

I'm using BOINC 6.10.1



Does this still happen with subsequent scheduler updates? When I had the Use GPUs for Computation set to no it would return a message saying something like "Preferences set to not accept GPU work, but work is available". Sometimes I would receive the same message "Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks" but once the next scheduler update came it disappeared and switched back to saying "Requesting new tasks for CPU".

I'm still getting the same messages in my BOINC manager, but couldn't say when the scheduler updates.

[edit]This is what I am still getting (Use GPUs for Computation? is still set to no) ;

27/08/2009 01:33:02 Milkyway@home update requested by user
27/08/2009 01:33:05 Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
27/08/2009 01:33:05 Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
27/08/2009 01:33:10 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
27/08/2009 01:33:10 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent


further edit;

I have a NVIDIA GPU, but not compute capability 1.3;

27/08/2009 01:00:15 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9600M GT (driver version 19038, CUDA version 2030, compute capability 1.1, 512MB, est. 14GFLOPS)
27/08/2009 01:00:15 No CAL Runtime Libraries installed.
438) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA Application for 32 bit Windows (Message 29764)
Posted 27 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've set GPU to no, but it it's trying for it anyway, and I'm not getting any work at all:

Use GPUs for Computation? no
Use CPU for Computation? yes


27/08/2009 01:03:07 Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
27/08/2009 01:03:13 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
27/08/2009 01:03:13 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent

I'm using BOINC 6.10.1

439) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 29738)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:








.
440) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 29732)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More problems with Craigslist here and here.

Maybe there should have a warning "Don't open this link if your boss might walk behind you and is the type who will stop and say - "Is that appropriate?" as he reaches for his disciplinary manual".

You shouldn't be on Craigslist while at work.

No, quite right. But then again, who's working? :p

I knew you were a biker drifter. Hell.

This weekend I found a copy of the 300 I forgotten I had. Now there was a real army. Yep, sure was. Not like some crazy 300 groupies you'd see at like... Comic Con. Bloody hell.

Hesill nosi, Isi nesivesir drisiftesid asi bisiker yesit, lesit asilosine 300 osif thesi mosib osin whesiesils.
441) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 29731)
Posted 26 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thapot ipos juspot fapontapostipoc ipof Ipo mipoght sapoy sopo
442) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : England win the Ashes! (Message 29713)
Posted 25 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Or, translating the thread title to english, 'england wins the ashes'.
The OP must have copied the title from the graun. Perhaps one day it'll get a spelling/grammar checker. :)

Ah well, that's English newspapers for you, the thread title being from a 'Daily Mail' headline. More concerned about about eye-catching headlines than attending to 'proper' Queen's English ;)

This is from the BBC, with hopefully acceptable use of English:

Swann's wicket seals a 2-1 series victory for England and it sparks wild celebrations for the bowler and his captain Andrew Strauss

443) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : England win the Ashes! (Message 29669)
Posted 24 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Andrew Strauss lifts the tiny Ashes urn amid a mist of champagne




444) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : England win the Ashes! (Message 29665)
Posted 23 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How's that! Strauss Waltzes Matilda eh cobbers? ;)


445) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 29657)
Posted 23 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



That's 40 gredits for me in MilkyWay (40 million credits in old money)

Watch out for that runnaway inflation ;)

446) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 29611)
Posted 22 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My first MILLION overall!!! Yee-ha
;-p

Well done Bruce. You can now claim to be a millionaire ;)

All I've got to do now is figure out which stores will take my credits?
{;-p

Oh, I'd do what most people do - wait until there is something better to spend the credits on. Whatever it is, you'll be able to buy two if you keep saving those credits ;)

Personally, I'd prefer to be paid in gredits...
447) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 29600)
Posted 22 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My first MILLION overall!!! Yee-ha
;-p

Well done Bruce. You can now claim to be a millionaire ;)
448) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 29599)
Posted 22 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More problems with Craigslist here and here.

Maybe there should have a warning "Don't open this link if your boss might walk behind you and is the type who will stop and say - "Is that appropriate?" as he reaches for his disciplinary manual".

You shouldn't be on Craigslist while at work.

No, quite right. But then again, who's working? :p
449) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 29579)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

You really should look into this



450) Message boards : Number crunching : Post server upgrade problems here (Message 29578)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think I've fixed the problems with the assimilator and workunit generation. Work should start flowing smoothly now.


They're flowing here -- Thanks!!!

After a few 'Retry communications' I'm off again on all my double barrelled ATI grunchers.
451) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Recent Electric and Gas/Propane bills (Message 29549)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
She just spent $350.00 to get her camera back after it broke! It is a Cannon D40 so was REAL expensive when she bought it brand new 2 years ago, I think.

My Canon 40D (D40 is a Nikon I think) has just broke. It certainly was expensive when I bought it just over a year ago, and more painful in that the 12 month warranty had expired. But thankfully I got it with a 3 year waranty, which I didn't realize at the time. So lucky fo me. But NOT lucky that these power bills are so high in running computers with power hungry ATI cards. Once I get a hundred billion credits I'm going to stop, I'm telling you.
452) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 29548)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
More problems with Craigslist here and here.

Maybe there should have a warning "Don't open this link if your boss might walk behind you and is the type who will stop and say - "Is that appropriate?" as he reaches for his disciplinary manual".
453) Message boards : Number crunching : Grunching (Message 29547)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
'Grunching' is, of course, the GPU equivalent to CPU crunching. Earlier this year many of us started here in MilkyWay with ATI GPUs. I’m curious hear what you think about all this ATI processing now that we've been grunching them for a few months.
454) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 6.10 support with ATI (Message 29546)
Posted 21 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have 6.10.0 running on a laptop and it seems to be running better with a couple of CUDA WUs going further than the crashes I have been having recently. So that's good. So far running OK with 6.10.0.

I tried it with an ATI GPU and it started off well, grunching two GPU MW and crunching one CPU CPDN. But then it wouldn't download any more MW. I haven't had much time to have a good look at it and hope to give it another go soon. But it's great to see the ATI detection - nice one Crunch3r.


455) Message boards : Number crunching : Terminology (Message 29338)
Posted 14 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A very basic explanation might be; the WORK DONE is based on how much your computer has contributed. This is measured in 'credits, or 'cobblestones', but not in time since some computers can do more than other computers in the same time.

AVG. WORK DONE is based on the same as WORK DONE, but is measuring how well your computer is doing currently, or since recently, hence known as RAC - Recent Average Credit.

My WORK DONE is fairly high, but my RAC is about to drop like a stone since all my BOINC credit contributions have just come to a DEAD STOP.
456) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Is Pluto a planet after all? (Message 29306)
Posted 13 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

You can call it what you like, as I'm sure the residents of Pluto call our planet what they like :p
457) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 29245)
Posted 12 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Credibility is falling, but normality has not yet been achieved.

I have achieved a credible total of 42,000,000 BOINC credits.

Not sure if this is normal, but what was the question again?
458) Message boards : Number crunching : Small WUs is doing it again! (Message 29161)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't know if it's the Test Wu's or what but I've had 2 ATI Cards go bad since they started running the Test Wu's. I know the Test Wu's seem to Hang when they get almost finished & that could be messing up the Cards.

I say that because while the 3 Per Core that are running are Hanging 3 more actually start up running & show progression too, so that's actually 6 running Per Core & it may be messing up the Cards to some degree.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

It could be pure coincidence, but one of my ATI crunchers failed on Sunday. A 12 vdc yellow cable in the power supply to the ATI card was completely burned through, melted. This is my first 'incident' with an ATI card since getting them earlier this year.

I replaced the wiring and it's now............ waiting for WUs...

459) Message boards : Number crunching : Low amount of wu on server (Message 29111)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

My RAC is slowing down

Sliping away, going backwards

in time, it will be nothing

I can feel it

I can feel it...

Daisy Daisy, Give me your answer do

I'm half crazy, All for the love of you


460) Message boards : Number crunching : One problem (Message 29107)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You are getting code 193 errors which relate to memory/swap file problems. Take a look here: http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?view=238&language=1
461) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 29074)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:






Have you joined Team England yet?








462) Message boards : Number crunching : deja vu! (Message 29073)
Posted 9 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
With the new quick wu's. I'm seeing web page slow downs and frequent lack of work available. This reminds me of a time not so long ago! Ah the memories. Time to dust off the ol' script.

Test wu's for main stream cuda testing maybe?



Yup!

Been there a few weeks ago, before it ...

I don't remember this one; 09/08/2009 09:44:31|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Server can't open database
463) Message boards : Number crunching : Gee guys, what's happening? (Message 29065)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Hmmmm, I am seeing the following:

ps_82test_2stream = 27.80 creds (new WUs)
ps_82test_3stream = 37.18 creds (new WUs)
gs_s222_3s = 74.24 creds (old WUs)


I concur... seeing 'zactly the same thing. But then, I do have my beer goggles on.


_________________
*** BOFH excuse #447:
According to Microsoft, it's by design


I'm also seeing a few of these; ps_82test_2stream = 0.00 creds
464) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 28983)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


I think a live mattress would provide more interest than.... yawn...

What's this thread about again?

Team promotion???

Way to go the team with a dot.
465) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 28971)
Posted 6 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

36,000,000 MW --- 40,000,000 overall

I wouldn't say it was exciting as 'boring'. Although it might be to a live mattress.


466) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 28864)
Posted 4 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Boats in the Laser SB3 fleet head downwind on the third day of Cowes Week on the Isle of Wight, Southern England.
467) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 28736)
Posted 2 Aug 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
5 million on Milkyway

Well done Lord Tedric. That's FANTASTIC!!!

Congrats to other milestones as well.
468) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 28612)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Click the cartoon to join :)

Please remember to drop by and say hello in the Team England Forum
469) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 28603)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A record 13 astronauts and cosmonauts assemble for a group photo on the orbiting International Space Station.
Six individuals now live permanently on the station. When a shuttle visits with its crew of seven, it makes for
quite a crowd. Shuttle Endeavour is due home on Friday.
470) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 28599)
Posted 30 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Miss World 2008 Ksenia Sukhinova joins Miss England 2009 winner Rachel Christie, who will now go on to compete for Miss World 2009

Click Miss England 2009 to join :)

471) Message boards : Number crunching : ALERT MILKY DATABASE IS DOWN (Message 28560)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Every so often there's a fiddle done on the server. Do need to panic, wait a few mins (get a beer or something) and it's usually back up.

Amazing how quickly things get sorted out with a fiddle ;)
472) Message boards : Number crunching : server crash (July 29) (Message 28553)
Posted 29 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Let me know if this has fixed anything.

Nope, she still tells me to unload the dishwasher.

PS. Ya'll are cranky this morning, no coffee yet?

Tea keeps the crankys away for me. I have all my billions of credits back, thanks.
473) Message boards : Number crunching : MW stops downloading as it seems to be looking for only GPU wu's (Message 28492)
Posted 28 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Suggest querying things further over there as this is the Milkyway forum!

Sure, thanks for telling me this is the MilkyWay form. I also have my NVIDIA GPU running again, but this is the MilkyWay forum so I won't talk about CUDA here, or what I had to do to get it running. Hey, CUDA is arriving here shortly! Sorry, can't talk about that here...
474) Message boards : Number crunching : MW stops downloading as it seems to be looking for only GPU wu's (Message 28481)
Posted 28 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Gpugrid, 8600GT, Boinc 6.6.28, driver 185.85. Running 24 hours 40% complete, no crashes so far.

I presume it was crashing before and you changed Boinc and driver version recently? Are you using Vista by any chance?
475) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Recent Electric and Gas/Propane bills (Message 28464)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I just received My Electric and Gas bills today, Elec $82.16; Gas $14.11. It must be from the cooler being on so much.

That's pretty good for a year. You're certainly not causing the global warming.

Sorry, But that's just for this month.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic ;) Even so, it looks somewhat less compared to my electric bill for a month.
476) Message boards : Number crunching : MW stops downloading as it seems to be looking for only GPU wu's (Message 28463)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
That was a good suggestion about resetting the projects Mark. I'm giving that a try. However, I found some MW WUs had been downloaded, but only after yet another GPUgrid WU had crashed. The screen resolution had changed so I assume my laptop did an auto recover on the GPU and allowed the MW WUs to download in the meantime.

[edit] I've just noticed it is now asking for CPU and GPU tasks;

27/07/2009 21:42:04 Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
27/07/2009 21:42:04 Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
27/07/2009 21:42:09 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
27/07/2009 21:42:09 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
27/07/2009 21:42:09 Milkyway@home Message from server: (reached per-CPU limit of 6 tasks)
27/07/2009 21:42:09 Milkyway@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
477) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 28461)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


David Carruthers (left), Paul Carruthers and Emily Helliwell try out a punt on Regent's Canal, east London, after British
Waterways licensed the capital's first punts on the waterway.
478) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Recent Electric and Gas/Propane bills (Message 28460)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I just received My Electric and Gas bills today, Elec $82.16; Gas $14.11. It must be from the cooler being on so much.

That's pretty good for a year. You're certainly not causing the global warming.
479) Message boards : Number crunching : MW stops downloading as it seems to be looking for only GPU wu's (Message 28443)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm tempted to say GRRRRRRRR! (because I've been reloading BOINC versions and GPU drivers quite a few times lately.)

Yes, as Jay says, MW has presumably detected a CUDA GPU and is (I presume) ignoring requests for optimized CPU WUs. It's saying;

"Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
"Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks".

I'm trying out 6.6.37 and 6.6.38 to get GPUgrid working since the advice is to use these latest versions if the drivers fail for your GPU (fail for BOINC, not necessarilly anything else).

If anyone can suggest how I can get my NVIDEA GeForce 9600M GT working with GPUgrid, and hopefully with MW CUDA GPU when it eventually arrives, I'd be very grateful.
480) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 28426)
Posted 27 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just two weeks before its third anniversary, Calm Chaos now has 100,000,000 credits in BOINC Combined, and is ranked 96th amongst all teams!!!




Well done Calm Chaos
481) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The other 40th Anniversary (Message 28303)
Posted 24 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My son works on Harrier and Tornado.

Its actually one Tornado that lives at the Falklands, he had to go down there once to put it away in boxes and assemble an overhauled one.


They used to build the Harrier at Kingston, then take the wings off and put the fuselage with the wings either side lengthwise on a long low loader, and drive each one to Dunsfold Aerodrome in Surrey. There they would re-assemble the aircraft and flight test it, before delivery.

While I was there from '72-'75 they also had a Hawker Hunter refurbishment programme running, those were another classic aircraft. What I remember most was the new Hawk jet which the red arrows now use. I can recall watching the wings and tails being fatigue tested on big hydraulic test rigs in the R&D block.

My main claim to fame is that I designed the ground restraining gear for the static engine tests at Dunsfold for the Hawk. The tethered aircraft exhausted into a bellmouthed silencing trumpet, and the tail lifted 12-15" at full throttle, which had to be allowed for.

At a Farnborough Air Show I was helping to take a communications missile to its container right next to the runway. I was as close to the runway as you could get and right there ready for take off was not one, but two Harriers. The side trusters on both swiveled and they took off together almost vertically. Awesome!

Not my claim to fame, but my flight in a Chinook might be.

482) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : 40th Anniversary of the Moon Landing - 20th July 2009 (Message 28243)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So they have "Mine's bigger than yours" competitions with scopes too?

Mine's not so big, a 70mm refractor, but it's computerized so that you can align the telescope to point you at whatever you want to see, and track it, compensating for the Earth's rotation.

I just love it when it slews to any star or planet etc. of my choice. It will even find the Milky Way on a good evening ;)

Now You didn't have to lose the Milky Way did Ya? ;)

Oh and I don't have any Telescope to be envious of.

Never mind those 'scopes that show you the specs of light in the night sky. I have a 500mm zoom lens for my camera which will show the color of the eyes of a blue tit half a mile away :P
483) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : 40th Anniversary of the Moon Landing - 20th July 2009 (Message 28221)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So they have "Mine's bigger than yours" competitions with scopes too?

Mine's not so big, a 70mm refractor, but it's computerized so that you can align the telescope to point you at whatever you want to see, and track it, compensating for the Earth's rotation.

I just love it when it slews to any star or planet etc. of my choice. It will even find the Milky Way on a good evening ;)
484) Message boards : Number crunching : Updating Server Daemons Tonight (Message 28216)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I started crunching GPUgrid last week with a GTX 260 and ended up with computation errors on every single WU. Then i switched to an older nVidia driver (181.22) and - bingo : everything is running smoothly now. So i think it's a driver issue with all 3 of you.

I've already re-installed and expanded nvlddmkm.sys a few times now without success. I put it down to Vista being rubbish and me being rubbish for buying a Vista laptop that I can't downgrade to XP.

Of course i will crunch for MW as soon as the CUDA app is out and running.
I'm really looking forward to it ...

You could be on your own if the rest of us can't get these drivers sorted out ;)
485) Message boards : Number crunching : Updating Server Daemons Tonight (Message 28206)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm having trouble with my nVidia crashing with computation errors on GPUgrid.


You ain't the only one !!

That's at least two of us ready to crash-test MW CUDA.
486) Message boards : Number crunching : Updating Server Daemons Tonight (Message 28200)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm having trouble with my nVidia crashing with computation errors on GPUgrid.
Travis, can you please get MW CUDA up and running so I can crash it on MW instead. Thanks ;)


You may have it -- but *we* don't. ;)



We actually have a working CUDA double precision app running right now, our new researcher Anthony is working on it. I think he's going to be releasing it as a beta application in the next week or so -- the only issue is that we're having an issue with the likelihood calculation that we want to resolve, when that happens we'll have to update all the applications.

487) Message boards : Number crunching : Running CPU and GPU simultaneously (Message 28152)
Posted 22 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Incidentally Ice, my VMs only show 1 proc per VM, meaning to use 7 cores I need 7 VMs. You found a way around this?

My VMware will allow me to configure 2 processors for my dual core/hyperthreading. However, when I configure the two processors it throttles the GPU processing and effectively stops the GPU crunching. I therefore have just one processor configured in VM and have just the one WU crunching there.
488) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : 40th Anniversary of the Moon Landing - 20th July 2009 (Message 28124)
Posted 21 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As to expense, The US Budget has always been big enough to do that, As NASA never had a really big budget, ...

Isn't it just astounding what NASA can do with it's relatively limited budget.

489) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 28104)
Posted 21 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Rachel Christie, winner of Miss England 2009 and the first black Miss England in the competition's
history, is flanked by third placed Viki Bailey, Miss Leeds, left, and lance corporal Katrina Hodge,
who came second.

Click Miss England 2009 to join :)
490) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Poms Win 2nd Test (Message 28102)
Posted 21 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Andrew Flintoff says he will be fit for the remaining three Ashes Tests, although he won't be picked if he is not going be fit for a full five days for the third test.
491) Message boards : Number crunching : Running CPU and GPU simultaneously (Message 28098)
Posted 21 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Can you run CPUs and GPUs simultaneously? If so, I assume you need to modify (merge) the 2 different app_info.xml files together. How is this done?

I want to run both the .19f optimized GPU and SSE4.1 optimized CPU app.

Bryan

Basically no, you can't run optimized CPUs and GPUs simultaneously, not in the same BOINC manager. But you can run optimized GPU and then have a VM (virtual machine, eg, VMware Workstation) running another BOINC manager for the CPU app.

Alternatively you can wait for the developing CUDA project http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway_gpu/ which I understand will allow you to run ATI gpu (as well as CUDA gpu) and CPU as seperate projects in the same BOINC manager.
492) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Poms Win 2nd Test (Message 28078)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't understand why we didn't make Australia follow on :?
There's no doubt 500+ was a tall order but if anyone could reach it, its Australia, so why not enforce the follow on and then you know exactly how much you've got to get in how many sessions.

I think that was it, the second Test at Lords won and in the bag. The first in Cardiff was a draw, so England lead 1-0 as they move on to Edgebaston for the third, where we see if Glenn is right and the Aussies start playing ;)
493) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Poms Win 2nd Test (Message 28052)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
They did it finally after 75yrs, a good game congratulations to England on out playing Aust

Well, we avoided the whitewash, and quite right we're in the lead.



Flintoff was inspired for England as he took three wickets on the final morning
494) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 28049)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Visitors at BT Goonhilly Satellite Earth Station in Cornwall UK, which is marking the 40th anniversary of the first manned moon landing.

495) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quotes and Sayings (Message 28046)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

"I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth."

John F. Kennedy, May 25, 1961

496) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : 40th Anniversary of the Moon Landing - 20th July 2009 (Message 28044)
Posted 20 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Congratulations to America and Apollo 11. Fantastic achievement!

497) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 27975)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
you recognize me?


I'd recognize you anywhere Jetsun ;)

Good luck with freeing Tibet.

498) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 27969)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi Fuzzy. Sounds like a very interesting cat. look forward to seeing the pics.

I've been keeping our cats indoors the last few days since I have stuff on the lawn that might harm them, feed and weed. They're back out now inspecting the new patio I've made at the bottom of the garden. I even have a vegetable garden at long last. I've cleared away the jungle at the bottom of my garden, felled some trees and transplanted a stack of shrubs so it's all ready to go. All I need to do now is to plant a turnip.
499) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 27964)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks!

Ice, it looks like you froze over looking for a handout of workunits.

Some workunits are frozen for me, that's for sure ;)
500) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Misfit is UOTD!! (Message 27963)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you don't create a profile, you can avoid sharing this honor.

OK, forget the honor. I'd be just happy to share Misfit's profile any time :P
501) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Catagory for team threads? (Message 27939)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As the title suggests, can we have a category for team threads? This project is moving along and we could use more space for team rant options. One thread per team would work..

Cheers..

Team England doesn't rant - you can have our team rant space :P

Who needs ranting when normality has been achieved.

Ah, but it hasn't - see your UOTD thread ;)
502) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Misfit is UOTD!! (Message 27937)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Normality has been achieved! ;)

I'm not sure about that. When MW takes over from SETI that might be the case - better optimized apps, better ATI optimized apps, a less futile research objective, just awaiting better CUDA apps. Probability is falling ;)

Anyway, everyone knows that normaility can only be achieved when a certain bunch of mindless jerks become the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

503) Message boards : Number crunching : Where's CUDA? (Message 27936)
Posted 18 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hello,

This is Anthony, I'm working on the CUDA application with Travis.

There are a few things that need to be resolved in order to get the CUDA app released, namely

1. Checking the accuracy of the double precision math
2. Integration with BOINC

Hi Anthony. It's good to hear that CUDA is still being worked on for MilkyWay. Will any release of MW CUDA be with this project or "Milkyway@Home for GPUs" waiting in the wings?
504) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Catagory for team threads? (Message 27886)
Posted 17 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As the title suggests, can we have a category for team threads? This project is moving along and we could use more space for team rant options. One thread per team would work..

Cheers..

Team England doesn't rant - you can have our team rant space :P
505) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Misfit is UOTD!! (Message 27885)
Posted 17 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Congratulations!

506) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 27884)
Posted 17 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
<-- User of the Day.

Well done Misfit! Whatever did it ;)
507) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 27797)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:





Click LAURENCE STEPHEN LOWRY (1887-1976) "OUR TOWN" to join :)

508) Message boards : Number crunching : Where's CUDA? (Message 27792)
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No real need as the ATI GPUs are turning over so much work, and the servers are coping OK now (not in the past).

Maybe no real need, but there must be some (including me) who have nVidea and would like to try out CUDA in MW.
509) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quote of the Day (Message 27743)
Posted 14 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
"Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water."

W. C. Fields

That is a really good one...
510) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27742)
Posted 14 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You CAN crunch MilkyWay ATI GPUS with BOINC 5.10.45.


That could be confusing to some (since no GPU wus are availiable). Here's my version of that (in no offense):

One can crunch MW wus with an ATI GPU using BOINC 5.10.45.

That works for me banditwolf. Probably works for 6.6.36 as well - 'One can crunch MW wus with an ATI GPU using BOINC 6.6.36'. So long as it's clear that 5.10.45 will work for [some] gpus [ATI graphics processing units, a selection of].
511) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27714)
Posted 14 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have no idea what these Mommy boys are babbling on about, but let's be clear about this. You CAN crunch MilkyWay ATI GPUS with BOINC 5.10.45

Anyone saying otherwise, or agreeing with old quotes that it cannot be done, is misleading. If unintentionally, then I am intentionally stating that you CAN crunch MilkyWay ATI GPUS with BOINC 5.10.45

I'm sure 6.6.36 is very nice, but since switching to crunching gpus with 5.10.45 my RAC has definitely gone up, although I have no idea what it could do for you.
512) Message boards : Number crunching : Using the MW ATi application, Q & A (Message 27660)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Very good borandi. I've added a link to this thread in zslip.
513) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27646)
Posted 13 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

You two, BarryAZ and Brian Silvers, should get a life. I have no interest in how you spend yours on debating Versions 6.*.* of BOINC. I am only saying that I am crunching MW ATI GPUS with 5.10.45 and any statement or reinforeced agreement that you cannot crunch gpus with 5.10.45, thus misleading anyone into thinking that you cannot crunch MW ATI GPUS with 5.10.45, is misleading.

514) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27598)
Posted 12 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Yes John, I am still crunching MW CPU with 5.10.45 as well as GPU apps (contrary to what BarryAZ agrees). I'm even crunching MW CPU in VM with MW GPU blasting away in main processing on the same box (i.e. running MW CPU and GPU on the same computer) - (I'm using 5.10.45 to crunch gpus, contrary to what BarryAZ agrees) ;)


IMO, you're tilting at windmills again... I interpreted the agreement as with the first part of the statement, that all the BOINC releases have problems. Additionally, 5.10.45 should not work for CUDA crunching, which is, in official BOINC parlance, "GPU crunching". The tasks you and others are processing here at MW that are using ATI cards are being forced into doing so by app_info.xml. In the later versions of BOINC that do have CUDA support, these tasks would be requested as "CPU", not "GPU".


Interpret what you like. There is no CUDA in MilkyWay and I am crunching ATI GPUS with 5.10.45 and doing it faster than any 6.*.* version I have tried.

I don't really care how you interpret official BOINC parlance. The fact is you can crunch MW ATI GPU with 5.10.45 and any suggestion that you cannot crunch MW ATI GPU with 5.10.45 is simply untrue.
515) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 27573)
Posted 12 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hello good people :)

Hi Shookity. I'm no good but I thought I'd say hello anyway. But then who is good at chopping down holly trees at the bottom of their garden?

What I need is a good chain saw ;p
516) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27572)
Posted 12 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
John Clark wrote:
Ice wrote:
I switched to 5.10.45 on all my machines and I'm going to stick with 5.10.45 which seems to work for me.


ICE

Do you have a link to BOINC version 5.10.45, where I can download it?

I have played around in CNET, and alternative sources, and there is no obvious download button. What I seem to get is being offered newer versions.


PS: Your use of BOINC 5.10.45 clearly is aimed at your PCs with ATI cards, but are you using this BOINC Manager on ones crunching Milkyway on their CPUs?


Nightlord wrote:
Official download site here: Berkely Download site


I've kept a copy of all the BOINC versions that I have used, so I have a subset of the site quoted by Nightlord (which I use and have had in my IC3/brilliant toolbars for years now).

Originally I thought you had to have a 6.*.* version to run GPU apps, but at some stage found I could use 5.10.45 (contrary to what BarryAZ agrees) and have found it to be the least problematic for ATI gpu apps and it seems my RAC is still rising after using 5.10.45 (contrary to what BarryAZ agrees).

Yes John, I am still crunching MW CPU with 5.10.45 as well as GPU apps (contrary to what BarryAZ agrees). I'm even crunching MW CPU in VM with MW GPU blasting away in main processing on the same box (i.e. running MW CPU and GPU on the same computer) - (I'm using 5.10.45 to crunch gpus, contrary to what BarryAZ agrees) ;)
517) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27526)
Posted 11 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've used 5.10.45 since around when it came out with no problems. Though it won't work for gpus.

It works for my ATI gpus. I am using 5.10.45 exclusively now with my ATI's crunching 320,000 RAC just now.

Thought it didn't recognize them, oh well. :p I plan to stick with it till I get a new computer system. Works, why change it.

You're right, for example, in that you can't run GPUgrid with 5.10.45 since 5.10.45 doesn't have the code to recognize GPU apps. But you can run Cluster Physiks' optimized apps with 5.10.45 by using the anonymous platform with his .xml

I was stuck with a RAC of just under 300,000 not too long ago having tried various versions of BOINC. I switched to 5.10.45 on all my machines and my RAC is now 320,000+ and still creeping up. So I'm going to stick with 5.10.45 which seems to work for me.
518) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quotes and Sayings (Message 27506)
Posted 11 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tan Hauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain. Time to die.

Blade Runner
519) Message boards : Number crunching : boinc 6.6.36 version (Message 27496)
Posted 11 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've used 5.10.45 since around when it came out with no problems. Though it won't work for gpus.

It works for my ATI gpus. I am using 5.10.45 exclusively now with my ATI's crunching 320,000 RAC just now.
520) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 27451)
Posted 10 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I would like to thank all you guys that put your time and efforts into zslip and the ati optimized apps. i have been a firm believer that some somebody would get the code right and ati could show its real power.
I have a 4890HD @ 1ghz that can usually crank a wu out every 45 - 50 seconds

So thanks Alot
Ryan

Thanks for that Ryan. I certainly appreciate the ATI optimized apps and the effort that Cluster Physik and his colleagues have put into them, and I'm glad zslip.com is still useful.
521) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 27427)
Posted 9 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Waiting for Godot... :-P



Waiting to 'Thank God I Have Done My Duty'

522) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 27312)
Posted 8 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
High and dry: Boat ends up grounded on rocks during yacht race



523) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26973)
Posted 3 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
WHO warns swine flu 'unstoppable'

The UN's top health official has opened a forum in Mexico on combating swine flu by saying that the spread of the virus worldwide is now unstoppable.

"For a pandemic of moderate severity, this is one of our greatest challenges: helping people to understand when they do not need to worry, and when they do need to seek urgent care"

524) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 26948)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Meanwhile in the UOTD room...

Congrats to Fuzzy Hollynoodles for being today's User of the Day at Cosmology!

Fame again Fuzzy - well done!

525) Message boards : Number crunching : Where's CUDA? (Message 26939)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Travis must be working on it - who knows when we'll see it ;P


June 11, 2009
Travis here. I'm going to be camping until Sunday so don't break anything while I'm gone. Hopefully Matt and John will keep the server running and filled with work for you guys :) I'm still having a few problems with the CUDA application for regular milkyway, so it'll probably be out Monday or Tuesday after I get back.


Still camping.
Maybe someone should send a search party :)

I for one am disappointed not to see MW CUDA and ATI being rolled out on MW_GPU. I've been on the edge of my chair ever since April 16, 2009 and "Almost There!". Should I suspend Milkyway@Home_for_GPU in my BOINC manager, or do you think the WUs will arrive any time now?
526) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't write state file-thread closed (Message 26936)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The problem seems to fixed itself, but I want to thank each and everyone of you that read this thread and then sat on your duffs and didn't suggest a darn thing.

It is possible that those who read it don't have a clue either. It helps when one is polite too.

I wish I had read this thread and then sat on my duffs and didn't suggest a darn thing. At least I would have read the thread, thought about it, and didn't just say something for the sake of it and cause calm chaos by suggesting any old darn thing.
527) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26930)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The regular seasonal flu has killed more than 13,000 people in the U.S. since January, and kills between 250,000 and 500,000 worldwide annually.

So what? I take it 'regular' flu comes around 'regularly' and makes 'regular' people sick all the time on a 'regular' basis' What has that got to do with an outbreak of a flu that happens once in a blue moon for which there is no known cure and could well mutate and kill millions rather than just make many millions sick? (In a very highly irregular way).

Heck, people who wear shoes usually have shoe laces so swine flu and it's dangers must be discounted. Oh my god, I have three shoe laces!
528) Message boards : Number crunching : WU from ps_sgr_226F5_3s_hiw detected as worm (via KIS 9) (Message 26929)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's best to exclude your BOINC folders from your virus checker. Otherwise you may well lose WUs which are perfectly OK, but targeted by the antivirus programs for some reason.
529) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26921)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Swine flu 'cannot be contained'

The rising number of swine flu cases mean trying to contain the virus is no longer an option, the (UK) government says.

Ministers said the emergency response would now move to a new "treatment" phase across the UK as there may soon be 100,000 new cases a day.

"Cases are doubling every week and on this trend we could see over 100,000 cases per day by the end of August."

"I should stress that this is not a sign that the virus is getting more virulent. It is an admission that the spread of the virus can no longer be contained."


Is that hysterical enough for you?
530) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26912)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


BBC News, Wednesday 1 July 2009 (yesterday);

There are 6,538 cases confirmed in the UK and 3 dead


WHO update

Monday 29 June:

70,893 cases worldwide
311 deaths


531) Message boards : Number crunching : Where's CUDA? (Message 26911)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What's the URL of this new Project called CPUGrid ??? I haven't got Attached to that one yet ... :P

Well there is http://www.cpugrid.com but it doesnt run BOINC.

Typical. It's offline :p
532) Message boards : Number crunching : Where's CUDA? (Message 26905)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It will come soon, some day, some month, some year. Only Travis knows. But there are enough CUDA projects like Seti/Seti beta, GPUGrid, Aqua !


I have no interesting in SETI.

GPUGrid doesn't like my 9600GT has only 64 SPs. It comments >= 96 SPs.

Aqua's CUDA WUs have run out!

SETI is not interested in me :p Interestingly I tried to attach to Aqua to see if the WU deadlines were not as unforgiving as CPUgrid, and found Aqua had no WUs. Now that I am turning off my laptop when not in use in this UK 'heatwave', I have stopped with CPUgrid and am now CUDA-less.

So in answer to the question "Where's CUDA?" - it's not on any of my boxes now.


What's the URL of this new Project called CPUGrid ??? I haven't got Attached to that one yet ... :P

Travis must be working on it - who knows when we'll see it ;P

533) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26893)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


BBC News, Wednesday 1 July 2009 (yesterday);

There are 6,538 cases confirmed in the UK and 3 dead



534) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 26891)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:





Click Miss England to join :)


535) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 26890)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Waiting for a long weekend and a wedding in Cornwall. (Not mine, I'll be doing some photos though)


536) Message boards : Number crunching : More Invalid wu's (Message 26889)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I dispute Cluster Physik's 'you shouldn't worry about this'. I only crunch during the eight-hour working day and these invalid tasks can run for almost two hours. It peeves me mightily when 25% of my crunch time is discarded for zero credit. It might not be a worry for those with GPU where only a few minutes worth of crunch is discarded but we don't all have that option.

I run both GPU and CPU-only on some boxes and see I have some WUs returning zero credit and appreciate the disappoitment when PCs have been running on 'wasted' WUs. However, as much as I want to amass as many credits as possible because it looks good and I like to see that progress in my science contributions when I check my stats - as much as all that, this is still an alpha project and participation still comes with all the server downtimes, problematic WUs and all the other glitches and gremlins that come with it. Fortunately we have gremlins like Cluster Physik to help us out ;)
537) Message boards : Number crunching : Where's CUDA? (Message 26888)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It will come soon, some day, some month, some year. Only Travis knows. But there are enough CUDA projects like Seti/Seti beta, GPUGrid, Aqua !


I have no interesting in SETI.

GPUGrid doesn't like my 9600GT has only 64 SPs. It comments >= 96 SPs.

Aqua's CUDA WUs have run out!

SETI is not interested in me :p Interestingly I tried to attach to Aqua to see if the WU deadlines were not as unforgiving as CPUgrid, and found Aqua had no WUs. Now that I am turning off my laptop when not in use in this UK 'heatwave', I have stopped with CPUgrid and am now CUDA-less.

So in answer to the question "Where's CUDA?" - it's not on any of my boxes now.
538) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 26867)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi Ice! :-D

The Vista SP2 just came last night, at least the Danish version. You really should think about having it installed, they have taken care of a lot of the resource problems in the previous versions.

Hi Fuzzy! ;)

I'm not sure about a Danish version, but I will be sure to look out for a SP2 upgrade. I don't think I'll go to all that trouble of upgrading to Windows 7 - hold on, of course I will. I'd be using XP if I could find the drivers for my laptop, and Windows 7 sounds OK from what I've heard.

539) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 26858)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I did two major upgrades last night, Vista Service pack 2 and Firefox 3.5. The new FF is fast! And from what I've read about Vista SP2 it's much less resource demanding than what SP1 was.

They both seem to work fine so far...


I only have Vista on a laptop and right now it's getting no upgrades - just getting turned off to stop adding to the heat....
540) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26857)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Again, not hysteria. .....

ooooh yes it is!!!

I walked past a beauty salon today and saw a man with a mask busy with a manicure. I've seen people with masks in beauty salons many times for many years and just cannot understand why an intelligent teacher would find this hysterical.

sarge wrote:
Again, not hysteria. It has nothing to do with the flu. Standard procedure for years. I forgot to add last night that some of those nail shops can be found in US malls and you can smell the chemicals when you walk by.

541) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Michael Jackson is reported dead (Message 26856)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
May he rest in peace.

He should be remembered as an outstanding artist, his talents as a musician and a dancer were extraordinary. His devotion to charity should be recognized as well.

He was a sad and tormented soul who now has got peace.

God bless you, Michael Jackson.

Well said Fuzzy, I'll second that.
542) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26839)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Professional sand sculptor Leonardo Ugolini, from Italy, works on his Jacques Cousteau sea scene artwork at the
annual Sand Sculpture Festival on the beach at Weston-super-Mare, North Somerset, UK

543) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Chaos (Message 26795)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm in the process of taking down a tree and have removed all the branches and have about 15 ft of the trunk left. I've decided to dig around the base and cut the roots to take it down. I've decided it's too blimmin' hot to be digging or taking anything down...



My old mob would have removed the tree and root with a couple of lbs of PE4. It's just the rebuilding of surrounding property that's a nuisance.



I'm not sure my neighbours will appreciate the chaos...
544) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26794)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
2. Parents holding swine flu parties to ensure their children get it.

The last point is just too relaxed as the assumption is their children will react in a mild way.

I think the idea is that the children catch swine flu now while it is in a mild form, and gain immunity before the bad stuff is predicted to happen in the autumn onwards. While there is some logic to this parental care, it doesn't do much for those trying to control and contain swine flu if part of the population is actively trying to spread it.
545) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 26778)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have had to go to my other place and shut down 7 pc's because of it. It was 100F in the computer room......

I wouldn't have believed it, but it got to 100F in my garage yesterday. I expect I'm going to have to switch something off in there...
546) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26777)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK done, Thanks.

You're welcome
547) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Chaos (Message 26776)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm in the process of taking down a tree and have removed all the branches and have about 15 ft of the trunk left. I've decided to dig around the base and cut the roots to take it down. I've decided it's too blimmin' hot to be digging or taking anything down...

548) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26766)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
From what I understand (and said all along), its not killing people unless they already have severe health problems anyway. The same as regular flu. I'm glad the media frenzy has died down and we're not all being told we're going to die. That was totally ridiculous.

Exactly.

I don't think "we're all going to die" is what was suggested by anyone (except here). I think it's enough to know that just one person dying of swine flu is enough. It could be your brother, your lover, your mother. Your son, daughter, father, best friend, favorite pop idol. One is enough, two could be just unbearable for anyone losing two in a family. Accidents happen, but so is swine flu - an accident waiting to happen unless we respect rather than ridicule it and accept that one death is just too many - and one saved could be "everything" to someone.

Not everyone flies, so is not everyone is at risk of dying in a plane crash, But “we’re all (not going to die, but)" at risk of dying from swine flu.
549) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 26765)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I started to see that message when I upgraded BOINC to 6.6.36

I went back to 6.6.20 and all is well.

It seems to me that I've had to spend a lot of time tweaking to get things working right. Then it seems to decay into further problems. Right now I've gone back to 5.10.45 on all my heaters (as in PCs) to see if that gives more consistency.


I'd encourage 5.8.16... Unless a project requires otherwise, you need CUDA support, or you have Vista / 7, then it's all you really need... The only drawback is 5.8.16 does not support server-side aborts, but since this is a quorum of 1 project...not much missing by not having the support for it...

Thanks for that Brian, I'll give 5.8.16 a try.
550) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 26749)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I started to see that message when I upgraded BOINC to 6.6.36

I went back to 6.6.20 and all is well.

It seems to me that I've had to spend a lot of time tweaking to get things working right. Then it seems to decay into further problems. Right now I've gone back to 5.10.45 on all my heaters (as in PCs) to see if that gives more consistency.
551) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26746)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I suppose it was only a matter of time. Apparently there have been a very small number of suspected but unconfirmed cases of swine flu among staff and students at the College.

It's a shame that some don't take treat swine flu more seriously and laugh and joke about it, but I expect as a teacher you can teach swine flu a thing or two.

552) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 26704)
Posted 29 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



24 million MW

28 million combined


553) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26703)
Posted 29 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A Siberian tiger takes to the water for the first time at Whipsnade Zoo in Bedfordshire UK, as temperatures top 26C.

554) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26691)
Posted 29 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Music fans start to leave the Glastonbury Festival at Worthy Farm, Pilton, Somerset, UK
555) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 26671)
Posted 28 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

“Conversation about the weather is the last refuge of the unimaginative.”

~ Oscar Wilde.

“Don't knock the weather; nine-tenths of the people couldn't start a conversation if it didn't change once in a while.”

~ Kin Hubbard

“Weather forecast for tonight: dark.”

~ George Carlin

and don't forget to always look on the bright side of life - whatever the weather...

556) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26637)
Posted 28 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nice pictures of the snow leopard cubs. You know who is in this picture and where it was taken. Maybe the snow leopards were born to run ;)


557) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 26619)
Posted 27 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Click the cartoon to join :)

Please remember to drop by and say hello in the Team England Forum
558) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26597)
Posted 27 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


An Ulster Volunteer Force flag flies in the village area of south Belfast.

Loyalist paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland today on 27 June 2009
confirmed that they have started to decommission their weapons.

559) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26565)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Michael Jackson R.I.P.



Michael Jackson is seen in file pictures from top left,
1971, 1977, 1979, and bottom left, 1983, 1987, and 1990.

photos Arizona Republic

560) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 26552)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



it's now 23,000,000 MW for me.



561) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 26549)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well done Team England on achieving 150,000,000 credits
562) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26540)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Michael Jackson is survived by Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II, known as Blanket.
His three children were spotted out with their faces visible last summer.

563) Message boards : Number crunching : this site has been slow (Message 26536)
Posted 26 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It has been very slow since the site came back up.

Too much script hammering.

Something is slowing up. My RAC is falling.

That looks age related.

Time to answer one of those emails that are titled HERBAL V*I*...... PILLS?

Some sort of herb.

No, really, it's the summer temperatures rising. My clocked GPUs are getting too hot as the general temperatures are rising. The clocked cards fail and wait idle for de-clocking before crunching can commence again.

There must be a better way of telling time.
564) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The aliens are coming! (Message 26476)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
They found some alien life on Enceladus maybe


565) Message boards : Number crunching : this site has been slow (Message 26475)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It has been very slow since the site came back up.

Too much script hammering.

Something is slowing up. My RAC is falling.

Time for a bigger hammer?

Use one if you have to. "Something" is probably the hot summer temperatures. Hammers don't help there.
566) Message boards : Number crunching : this site has been slow (Message 26462)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It has been very slow since the site came back up.

Too much script hammering.

Something is slowing up. My RAC is falling.
567) Message boards : Number crunching : Upload/download problem (Message 26456)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looks like the upload/download function has encountered a problem (as of about 8:30AM PDT anyway). Reported work can get sent, but completed work not yet reported won't upload. Also, new work units stay in 'downloading' mode and do not complete the download.

Anyone else seeing this?

Nope. I can upload and download OK.
568) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 26452)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Click Miss England to join :)

Please remember to drop by and say hello in the Team England Forum
569) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26450)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A U.S Marine from the 2nd MEB, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marines looks around the area after dismounting from his vehicle during a patrol near the town of Now Zad in Afghanistan's Helmand province 25 June, 2009.

Photo: David Guttenfelder/AP

570) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26440)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A sandstorm moves from Africa toward the Cape Verde islands. The Tenatso Observatory on the island of Sao Vicente was recently set up to study how such storms deliver iron and phosphorus, needed by cyanobacteria that fix nitrogen in the nutrient-poor waters.

571) Message boards : Number crunching : getting tired of 9.6 crashing. what can I do? (Message 26439)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
That is pretty much normal, a lot of times I get up to 10 units "running" but only 3 are actually processing.

I often get 12 "running" but only 1 processing.
572) Message boards : Number crunching : More Invalid wu's (Message 26438)
Posted 25 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Any chance of getting the ATI-app to notice it's jammed up and auto-kill itself?

I had this problem only yesterday - but I hope my cards don't get it into their heads to commit suicide, they're too young to go just yet ;)

573) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26394)
Posted 24 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Glastonbury 2009. Old favourites will dominate Glastonbury this year as Neil Young, Tom Jones, Status Quo and Blur join Bruce Springsteen on the main stage.



574) Message boards : Number crunching : More Invalid wu's (Message 26385)
Posted 24 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


12 out of the last 1000 for me


575) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26363)
Posted 24 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Emma Watson, Harry Potter star Hermione




576) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26332)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Cyclists stop to look at a chalk drawing of a canyon on Regent's canal towpath in London.
It was commissioned by British Waterways to encourage people to slow down when cycling alongside canals.


577) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 26329)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What are you waiting for?

For normality to be achieved.

Is this the Heart of Gold thread, then?

It will be when I achieve a MW RAC of 300,000 ;P

So you are waiting for your electric bill.

No, I never wait for that. But I am waiting for Team England to be the number 1 UK team. Then normality will be achieved, and I can wait for the paint to dry instead.

Is the paint cheap?

Yep, sure is. Doesn't cost me a penny. Paint is cheap as chips and doesn't cost a dime since I don't buy it, just apply it.

Waiting for paint to dry, however, is not cheap. Times costs money.
578) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 26310)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



Congratulations to Team England on moving up to 4th place in the UK rankings.

What a Milestone!!! ;)




579) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 26309)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



Congratulations to Team England on moving up to 4th place in the UK rankings.

Well done guys and gals ;)




580) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 26303)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just us chickens....
Hey - I'm a penguin!!

Yea, an' I'm not scared...
581) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 26302)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
on 30 May wrote:
There have been 483 vistors this week, with a daily average now of 69.


There have been 608 vistors this week, with a daily average now of 87.

582) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 26289)
Posted 23 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What are you waiting for?

For normality to be achieved.

Is this the Heart of Gold thread, then?

It will be when I achieve a MW RAC of 300,000 ;P

So you are waiting for your electric bill.

No, I never wait for that. But I am waiting for Team England to be the number 1 UK team. Then normality will be achieved, and I can wait for the paint to dry instead.
583) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 26224)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:





Please remember to drop by and say hello in the Team England Forum

584) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending WU??? (Message 26223)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I had 3 pending from the past two days, 1 just cleared. If no-one claims yours Labbie I'll have them since I am so short of WUs :p

585) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 26214)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Stonehenge, the first sunrise of the summer.
The 21st day of June is the longest day of the year, when the Sun is at its maximum elevation.




586) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 26205)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What are you waiting for?

For normality to be achieved.

Is this the Heart of Gold thread, then?

It will be when I achieve a MW RAC of 300,000 ;P

587) Message boards : Number crunching : Win 7 x64 (Message 26174)
Posted 22 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Duh, like you in Germany when we were kids, remember?

What?

A few years ago I was driving through Germany with two brothers on our way to visit another brother in Denmark. We stopped for some food and while my two brothers, who spoke German very well, were deciding on what to have I went ahead and spoke to the waitress and ordered my food. They both looked at me, a little amazed since they assumed I couldn't speak German any more, and asked me where I had learned German. To which I replied "Duh, like you in Germany when we were kids, remember?"
588) Message boards : Number crunching : Win 7 x64 (Message 26169)
Posted 21 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
, sorry; what's your native language?

Ukrainian or Russian. He should ask Ice as he also comes from the Ukraine and will most probably speak both, at least if Ice is not a Russian Ukrainian ;)

I speak neither Ukrainian or Russian but I do understand some written/spoken Ukrainian and a little Polish also. I am more likely to speak German and certainly understand some of that since I was born in Germany and could well be my first language except that my parents spoke only Ukrainian at home, which they also did at first when we moved to England. I only speak English now, except when I am in Europe on holiday where German is spoken and like some magic it comes back to me and my older brothers ask me where I learnt it. Duh, like you in Germany when we were kids, remember?
589) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 26128)
Posted 21 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What are you waiting for?


Waiting for Ice's RAC to pass my TOTAL!! Its getting close, but not there yet.
;-p Hi Ice!!

I wouldn't wait for that Bruce. My MW RAC has already peaked at 298,734 and is now going backwards. Probably because I'm getting a bit tired now ;)

590) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Waiting... (Message 26122)
Posted 21 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What are you waiting for?



591) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 26118)
Posted 21 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
10,000,000 in MW!!!!!

Well done Labbie. Way to go!
592) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 26076)
Posted 20 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm guessing they haven't switched it on yet. Plenty of work from 'old' MW though.

I still think we should have a dedicated GPU project just to show what a bunch of GPUs can do ;)

593) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 26075)
Posted 20 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
1 million MW, 2 million overall BOINC.

It's amusing to feel so excited about seeing these silly credit numbers climb. ;)

Oh come on, their not silly. They go to show how much you have supported a particular project and the time, effort and money you've invested on computers (or lucky enough to have access to). They also go to show how single minded the devs of BOINC have become when they ignore a large portion of the GPU crunching community. Oh damn I mentioned the 'silly' word. You are quite correct it is silly - but don't we enjoy it!

There is certainly something silly, as in amusing, about these climbing credit numbers being too good to be true.
594) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 26046)
Posted 19 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


595) Message boards : Number crunching : More Invalid wu's (Message 26005)
Posted 19 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

This is very worrying. I have 5 errors out of my last 1500 WU's. This could stop me reaching my all-time RAC high.

Only kidding, just to say I've had a very few errors, but not on your scale.

596) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 25983)
Posted 19 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Royal Ascot 2009



597) Message boards : Number crunching : MW ATI work (Message 25957)
Posted 18 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Amyone having problems downloading MW work to their GPU?

One of my rigs has just completed the cache of MW work, and is sitting there, unusually, not downloading new work. The other rigs - mixed CPU and GPU - seem to be OK.

I had this quite recently, just days ago, two of my rigs just sat there with a column of "Ready to report", but did nothing else. "Update" got things going again, and I still check from time-to-time that my rigs aren't taking unauthorized tea breaks.

598) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 25939)
Posted 18 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
But when you're one of those people living within 10-15 miles of schools that close for a few days or a week (rightly or wrongly) to try to reduce the spread of H1N1, don't tell me or others that it's gone out of the news or that the worry has fallen off the map.

The day I left the Dominican Republic in April of this year after a Caribbean cruise I started to sneeze and feel unwell. It was the worse illness with 'flu symptoms' that I have ever experienced, and I took time off work on doctor's orders who had nothing to give me for it so I stayed home. There are now 93 confirmed cases and one dead of swine flu in the Dominican Republic. I'm not saying I had swine flu and there aren't any cases anywhere near me, but I certainly didn't like that flu much, and I wouldn't dismiss those who decide that a pandemic is upon us for an illness where nothing can be given to cure, but maybe just to alleviate the symptoms.
599) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 25932)
Posted 18 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

A MW RAC of 290,000


...still accelerating...


600) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quotes and Sayings (Message 25928)
Posted 18 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm not sure this fits the criteria but here it goes.

If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito. - Dalai Lama

Yes, that fits just fine :)

This is where my tribute came from;

The ghosts haunting British roads



601) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Quotes and Sayings (Message 25901)
Posted 18 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take
but by the moments that take our breath away


602) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 25824)
Posted 17 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



This penguin says it all ;)





603) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 25717)
Posted 16 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Congats on your crunching - it's now 20,000,000 MW for me.


catching up ;)




Slow down there Ice or your gonna pass me soon...

I get the feeling that if I catch you Spankinmonkee, you're suddenly gonna zoom off...

Congrats UBT - Ben and banditwolf

604) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 25667)
Posted 16 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Congats on your crunching - it's now 20,000,000 MW for me.


catching up ;)


605) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 25628)
Posted 16 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


World Iron Man champion, Faris al-Sultan, stands on the beach near Zayed Mosque in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates.

606) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 25588)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Nolans reunite after 25 years for a live tour

607) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring BOINC (Message 25586)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, I give up. What the hell do I need to do to get MW from starting every single task. I'm using BOINC 6.4.7 and 0.19f.

Use BOINC 5.10.45. That gives me 2 MW WUs crunching, the rest are either Waiting to start, or Waiting to report.

I have the same problem as you with BOINC 6.4.6 and 6.6.28
608) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI GPU app 0.19f fixes the ps_sgr_208_3s errors (Message 25582)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think you will find that the number of shaders is the most important indication of a graphic cards power in crunching workunits. At least that is how I have found it. DDR3 is faster than DDR2 and the newest cards use DDR5. Memory clock doesn't seem to matter that much. But I'm no expert, others will know better.

You're right in saying Memory clock makes little difference, it's the GPU clock that makes the difference. For example, the number of shaders is the same in the 4850 and the 4870, but it's the higher GPU clock in the 4870 that gives it the bigger crunch. Shaders # is still the same in the 4890, but an even higher GPU clock gives an even higher crunch.

609) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 25541)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Alan Stokes wins the Gul Night Surf event with a spectacular display at Fistral beach in Newquay, England. Pic: Jason Feast


610) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Interesting pictures (Message 25540)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Please post your contemporary pictures/photos that you find interesting, and hopefully the forum will. For example, scenes from the news, current events, etc. Please honour any copyrights.





611) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25522)
Posted 15 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
but there is a difference between x86 and x64 for the calculations on the 4850? under win7 x64 ?
and there is a need to put something other than only driver? CCC and the remaining pieces catalyst suite ?

Hi KoDAk, I don't have win7, but if I did I would certainly install CCC and the remaining pieces in the catalyst suite. CCC allows you to clock your card, to make it faster. I'm not sure about the others, but I always install them and they don't seem to do any harm. The important thing is that when everything is installed, the card crunches, and a little faster when raising the clock values in CCC.

612) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 25467)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Congratulations on moving up to 11 place in MW :)

Congratulations on moving up to 72 place combined :)



Click Miss England to join :)
613) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - CLOSED (Message 25463)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fuzzy Hollynoodles wrote:
Oh, and I did find out how to enable links and pics

That's great. I got to know phpBB quite well, but when the latest version came out I manged to lock myself out of the forum and couldn't see any posts let alone pics, and I was the owner/administrator! Fortunately I still had access to the permissions and eventually sorted it. I prefer tinkering with html, which reminds me, I must get my websites sorted. Hope your forum goes well.
614) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25439)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No offense but Ice, why do you always have to be so argumentative?.

Now I am always argumentative? Really? Always? The only times I have ever posted have been argumentative? And you are not using arguments? You have never been argumentative? You can use arguments but I can't? You didn't use any arguments in your post just now? There reallys is some bollocks talked in this forum. Cricket's even.
615) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25408)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...care to rephrase it?

No thanks, Paul D. Buck has said "Ok, Every one but Ice is doing science on the Cheap ...". I'll continue with the knowledge that doing this science is expensive for me, and leave you lot wound up with how cheap it is for you.
616) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 25387)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
300K on MW, 1st post and I should reach my first million on BOINC in a day or so :D

Well done and welcome loeakaodas. Nice to see a Russian here ;)

617) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 25354)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Quoting myself.. lol

Yes so you are, very funny.













618) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25353)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, quite expensive.

Yes, quite expensive. Not "cheap", as in "we are doing science on the cheap"

I also agree with this;

But if my circumstances change such that I can no longer afford it, I... stop. Any certain projects will lose a large amount of data crunched.
619) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25350)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This one should work as that is what I am using with my 4830.

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/9-5_vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe

I just get "Unauthorized Download" when I go to this link.
620) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25347)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, I'm not trying to be an A hole, but whether you like it or not "you" are part of a whole. Forget your wallet. You give what you can afford to give to the project and no more, just like the rest of us. Your taking offense to being included in that whole is extremely petty. If you don't like the money leaving your wallet in order to help support this project then don't spend any more. If you think you're spending too much then cut back. It's that simple. Nobody was trying to belittle your contributions in any way. You just took it that way.
Believe it or not, "you" are part of the bigger picture "we".
Ni!
Have a nice day!

I'm sorry, but you really are going off at tangents. It is not about whether I like the money leaving my wallet, or what I can afford or what I want to give. It is about someone trying to speaking for me and saying "we are doing science on the cheap", and I am saying No No no no No, I am not part of your "we" in this satement because I am NOT doing science on the cheap.

It's not about whether I am part of this project, how many mothballs there are in my wallet, how sensitive I am, what I need to cut back on or any of my home economics. I will not agree to someone stating that "we are doing science on the cheap". You can say it's cheap for you, but don't try and say it's cheap for me.

You have a nice day to. Mine was cheap since I peddaled instead of using my car today, unscientifically.
621) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25342)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I use win 7 x64
and in :\Windows\System32\ no aticalrt64.dll or
only aticalrt.dll

I found this for VISTA if that is any good;

http://downloads.guru3d.com/ATI-Catalyst-8.12-Vista-64-bit-download-2144.html
622) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 25339)
Posted 14 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Congratulations on 45 million in MW :)

Congratulations on 135 million combined :)



Click Miss England to join :)
623) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 25336)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Wouldn't that spread You a bit thin?

Fantastic! Now I don't need to go out on my new mountain bike any more, I will be losing all the weight I want and be thin. Not sure about being spread about though - I might get a reputation ;)

624) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring BOINC (Message 25334)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What is the performance impact of a vm?
i think i have to run the cpu-part on the vm or is the gpu available in a vm? that would be great

I don't think you can run the GPU in VM, at least I haven't found a way of assigning the GPU hardware to it. But yes, you can then run CPU in VM to use your CPU to crunch MW as a well as the GPU crunching MW.

I'm not really sure about the performance impact. It's bound to impair overall performance since you have VM as an overhead. I can't really say there is any benefit since the number of WUs that can be crunched is pretty small compared to the turnaround that you can do with one GPU card, and you may also risk your system becoming unsuable for anything else with all that crunching going on.

625) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25333)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I found the current x86 files x64 can not see
Try this: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp64/radeonx-xp64

or even better, this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/8-12/Pages/radeonaiw_xp64.aspx?&lang=English

I started working with x86
but if the current project
when adding a second project for CPU cache ends !!!!!!

Yes, that can happen. I find BOINC Manager is not good at managing another project so I have just one other task running, eg, CPDN. When that finishes I kick off another task. I have found that if, say, 2 CPDN tasks start running, or 2 tasks from 2 other projects, MW will sometimes stop. So I make sure that just one non-MW task is running at any one time, or find that MW has been sleeping all night. And we don't want MW to sleep, do we? ;)
626) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25332)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You are looking at it from YOUR perspective, not the project's ...

Not looking anywhere really, just concerned that you are belittling my 'cheap' efforts. It's not 'cheap' for the project either. Everyone can clearly see that the total cost of the project is HUGE with the all the crunching contribution included, and that contribution is not 'cheap'.

By all means describe your contribution and efforts as 'cheap', but less the the 'we' since I certainly object to be included in your 'we'.

but, because we are doing science on the cheap ...




Says Ice with his quarter million RAC...well since the hypocrisy pot is boiling over now...maybe a little perspective on this...

Your contribution is just that "your contribution" how cheap is a matter of what you are trying to get from it or what you are trying to give to it, however don't ever forget it's your choice...and from the rest of us that either can't afford to purchase the hardware to run the app or have the hardware but can't seem to get an app ported for their systems (in my personal case)...please do us a favor and stop whining about the money you have chosen/continue to choose to spend..."we" have little empathy for you.

For goodness sakes. This is about someone saying "we are doing sience cheaply" and I am firmly saying that I disagree and that I am NOT doing science cheaply. This is not about my RAC, my contribution, what I can afford, what app I can get ported, what empathy you have or all the other rubbish that is bring brought into the arguement.

I do NOT agree that "we are doing science cheaply", and it has nothing to do with my feelings but with the money leaving my wallet.

Why don't you crunch and be happy and don't go speaking for me I saying I am doing science on the cheap when you have no I idea what I spend on it, and if you saw my electricity bills you would be nuts to say it was cheap, thank you.

627) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 25306)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It is possible, they would have to create a new account and then Travis or Dave could link them together.

They'd have to hurry up. I've initiated a request for thread ownership and if the owner doesn't reply by 26th June I will own any requests in MilkyWay.

My initiate request to take over the ownership of all message boards is also still pending :p

628) Message boards : Number crunching : Configuring BOINC (Message 25302)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Is there a way to run two BOINC installations?

VM
629) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25288)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
how to put the old driver
in 7 have 8.612 driver ((((

Go to the official Ati/AMD site http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html, and click on your OS, eg, 'Profesional/Home' under 'Windows XP'. Then select 'Radeon', then select 'Radeon HD 4800 Series', then click on Go. Click on 'Previous Drivers and Software' at the bottom. Select the Catalyst driver you want and then click on 'Display Driver'.

Uninstall your current driver and install the driver that you download from http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
630) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 25286)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

That's 18,000,000 MW for me


That was two day ago. Now it's 19,000,000 MW for me.
631) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25229)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
which driver to use on win 7x64 for GPU HD4850 ?

You have a choice of Catalyst 8.1 or 9.1, or for 9.2 ad above see this post.

Generally it's always best to use the higher version numbers, but I've never had any luck with the drivers above 8.1, so I use 8.1 since it works for me.

Nice to see another Ukrainian on this forum ;)

You mean 8.12? I didn't think crunching was supported on 8.11 or earlier.

Yea I did, just checking if you read zslip - it's all there ;)
632) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25227)
Posted 13 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You continue to flail about thinking people meant something that they didn't and still do not mean...

That's a cheap way of of trying to win your point. If someone says "we are doing science on the cheap" and I say I disagree, that I am not doing science on the cheap, I am not "flail about thinking" - I am saying I disagree with someone trying to say I am as cheap as the contribution they think they are making.

"We are doing science on the cheap" implies that one and all are doing science on the cheap. I do not "flail" when I say I disagree and neither do I use cheap arguments to make a case for a disagreeable statement.
633) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25186)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We are a team here. Playing the game for the coaches (Travis, Dave and the rest of the MW staff). There is no "I", "Me", or "You" in team. That's why it was stated in the plural form "We". You simply took it out of context and should't have taken any offense as there was absolutely none implied.

I've said the last I have to say in this matter. It would really be nice if this little B and G session ended pretty quick.

It's not a question of taking offence. I am simply saying that will not accept someone saying that I am doing science on the cheap, or implying that I am. The statement in question is not acceptable as far as I am concerned and I will continue to excercise my right of reply and say so. You can keep on saying that we are doing science on the cheap, and I will keep replying that I am not doing science on the cheap, and some argument about Travis being a coach is not going to swing it for you.

634) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 25182)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
which driver to use on win 7x64 for GPU HD4850 ?

You have a choice of Catalyst 8.1 or 9.1, or for 9.2 ad above see this post.

Generally it's always best to use the higher version numbers, but I've never had any luck with the drivers above 8.1, so I use 8.1 since it works for me.

Nice to see another Ukrainian on this forum ;)
635) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25181)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Say what you want, but not that "we are doing science cheap". I just completed 18,000,000 MilkyWay WUs. They weren't "cheap" as far as I am concerned, for me or for the project.


You should know by now that I'm typically not going to just say something that someone likes to hear just because it is what they want to hear...

Paul was correct in what he said looking at it from the project's point of view. His statement wasn't directed at you specifically, and you are being way too sensitive about it...

OK, you and Paul are cheap. Fine. You are doing it on the cheap. Fine. I object to someone speaking for me and saying "we are doing science on the cheap" when it ain't dam well cheap for me. No he was not correct and neither are you just by saying so.

Cheap!
636) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 25146)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


The number of confirmed cases of swine flu in the UK has now reached 909.


637) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Availability v2 (June 9) (Message 25145)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've also had *DOWNLOAD* transfers go into retry mode.

Me to. I'm struggling with my CPU crunchers. It takes ages to upload the results, and download can't start until upload completes. Then they don't start crunching for ages as download transfers go into retry, even at 100%.

Never mind, I'm getting a new bike today and I'd rather be biking ;)


Well, there'll probably be a work outage soon and it will reduce the db load as people are backed off without there being a db query involved. Also, as I mentioned in another thread, there could be a work stall coming up due to enough of us with CPUs-only getting tasks and taking longer to process them, then running into difficulty uploading and reporting...

I'm not so sure which is worse - not getting the work or spending oodles of time micro-managing it when it comes. I have to admit I have other stuff to do apart from trying to get a turn-around on uploaded and downloaded work.
638) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Availability v2 (June 9) (Message 25140)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've also had *DOWNLOAD* transfers go into retry mode.

Me to. I'm struggling with my CPU crunchers. It takes ages to upload the results, and download can't start until upload completes. Then they don't start crunching for ages as download transfers go into retry, even at 100%.

Never mind, I'm getting a new bike today and I'd rather be biking ;)
639) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Swine Flu (Message 25130)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
the virus has had the chance to mutate into a more virulent form.

Yep - a new form of BSE or sommat...



We're all gonna die, die, die



I hope not. The Pandemic status declaration is there to alert the world so that they know the risk of sudden spread is there, and to alert the world to be prepared if sudden spread occurs at any time from now.
640) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 25121)
Posted 12 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Say what you want, but not that "we are doing science cheap". I just completed 18,000,000 MilkyWay WUs. They weren't "cheap" as far as I am concerned, for me or for the project.

Only 1 credit per WU? This project is cheap.

Yea, I demand the rest of my credits - I should be on 500,000,000 by now :P
641) Message boards : Number crunching : Out of wu's (Message 25056)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I stopped the server to remove the badly sized searches. It should be better shortly.


Back up and running................

Thank goodness Lord Tedric - your team needs you ;)

642) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 24990)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Not exactly a special occasion, but this seemed the best place for it.

500 years ago today on 11th June 1509, King Henry VIII of England married his first wife Catherine of Aragon. Although his susequent track record in that department left something to be desired.....


auch.. that guy ...mmhh..
why do you feel any need to mention him??

:p Im not going to say hurray. lol

Henry VIII divorced a few wives, but why did he divorce Catherine of Aragon? The naughty king was having affairs, one with Mary Boleyn with whome he had a son. But it was her younger sister that he fancied, Anne Boleyn. King Henry VIII was totally obsessed with Anne Boleyn and wife #2 was soon walking up the isle; poor Catherine a discarded ex-Queen.

643) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 24987)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Well done Martin.

That's 18,000,000 MW for me




Gratz Ice - you running 8 cards there?

No, not that many. But I am running MW CPU as well as GPU on the same boxes as the GPU cards (anyone else managing that? ;), and also one or two other CPU-only MW crunchers to give me and my team a further little boost :)


Either deft manipulation of app_info.xml, or running a few VMs?

I doubt if I'm deft with the .xmls, but I certainly like to dabble with those VMs ;)
644) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 24970)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
HELP REQUIRED.

I have a dual boot system running XP Pro and Vista.

BOINC ver.6.6.20
ATI 0.19f

1.Installed ATI 4870.
2.Installed Catalyst 9.1 for Win Vista. Works as should.
3.Installed Catalyst 8.12 for Win XP. Not working.

Followed instructions in readme file.
Any ideas why it works with vista and not XP?

You need to have net 3.5 installed with XP. To be on the safe side, I usually go into Windows Update and update everything.
645) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 24968)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Well done Martin.

That's 18,000,000 MW for me




Gratz Ice - you running 8 cards there?

No, not that many. But I am running MW CPU as well as GPU on the same boxes as the GPU cards (anyone else managing that? ;), and also one or two other CPU-only MW crunchers to give me and my team a further little boost :)
646) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24937)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ahh...but we do agree that a GPU gets real "good bang for your and my buck". Now the cost/credit is cheaper here using the optimised app than anywhere else. Is that science on the cheap or just cheaper science? Combined we are doing science on the cheap, but individually proving not so cheap hardware? It's all a matter of perspective.

Yes, it is about perspective, and not about twisting the perspective by someone else. Since the advent of ATI GPUs here on MW, approx 6 months ago, I have spent more on BOINC that I ever did on entire BOINC in the years before, and I am certainly spending far more on electricity, keeping these computers and ATI cards fed, than I ever did before. It's not exactly "cheap" science for me, so I still don't take too kindly to someone trying to say that "we" are doing science on the cheap.
647) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24925)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you are here, and you are volunteering and bearing the cost of running your systems then you are in the "we" like it or not ...

I think your are missing my point, as you seem to miss everything in your ramblings. Please don't speak for me. Please don't spout your opinions with your 'we' as if those opinions include me. You also seem to want to speak for the project admin here, but I don't see anything that indicates you represent them, and you certainly don't represent me. "I" am not doing science on the cheap even if you think eveyone else is - get it? "I" do not think that "we can do things cheaply", whether as "we" you are talking about all crunchers or as a MilkyWay project staff (get them to give you a tag if you are). I am certainly not part of any of your "we" since I repeat my view that the project cost with all the contributions of volunteer time, computers and electricity bills is HUGE.

You're nit-picking.
It was meant in the broad scale of things. "You" were not singled out.

No I am not nit-picking. The statement was "we are doing science on the cheap" but I object to someone saying that I am doing science on the cheap. By all means agree that you are doing it on the cheap, but please don't speak for me and say that I am doing it on the cheap. What I've contributed to MilkyWay is NOT cheap.


Nobody said that what you have contributed is...however when putting things in perspective, all of our systems allow them to get the work done for less money than what it would cost them normally for equivalent processing time on a cluster / supercomputer. Ergo, it is "on the cheap"...from a certain perspective. I'm sure Paul wasn't trying to say that you're cheap or I'm cheap or whatever, just that if there wasn't an economical savings to doing things this way, it would make a whole lot more sense to just do it on a cluster, which is what Predictor ended up doing...

Say what you want, but not that "we are doing science cheap". I just completed 18,000,000 MilkyWay WUs. They weren't "cheap" as far as I am concerned, for me or for the project.

648) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 24921)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Well done Martin.

That's 18,000,000 MW for me


649) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 24920)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
HI Everyone!!! I've never seen the "Sound of Music" either. At least not all of it, I've turned it off a number of times, its just not my cup of tea.
;-p

Bruce, I'm surprised with you. It's everyone's duty to grin and bear it at least once in their lifetime. You might find it easier to visit Mecca, but you just gotta get with the 'hills are alive' just the once at least ;)

As I said I've tried to watch it at least 4 times, just couldn't do it!!

Try a straightjacket, shackles and a device to keep the eyes open ;)p

650) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24919)
Posted 11 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you are here, and you are volunteering and bearing the cost of running your systems then you are in the "we" like it or not ...

I think your are missing my point, as you seem to miss everything in your ramblings. Please don't speak for me. Please don't spout your opinions with your 'we' as if those opinions include me. You also seem to want to speak for the project admin here, but I don't see anything that indicates you represent them, and you certainly don't represent me. "I" am not doing science on the cheap even if you think eveyone else is - get it? "I" do not think that "we can do things cheaply", whether as "we" you are talking about all crunchers or as a MilkyWay project staff (get them to give you a tag if you are). I am certainly not part of any of your "we" since I repeat my view that the project cost with all the contributions of volunteer time, computers and electricity bills is HUGE.

You're nit-picking.
It was meant in the broad scale of things. "You" were not singled out.

No I am not nit-picking. The statement was "we are doing science on the cheap" but I object to someone saying that I am doing science on the cheap. By all means agree that you are doing it on the cheap, but please don't speak for me and say that I am doing it on the cheap. What I've contributed to MilkyWay is NOT cheap.
651) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Murder reveals hidden online life (Message 24897)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Jepp. So...when will we get to see your faces on the avatars..?? ;-)))


Most of us are not as pretty as you...

But is that the real Moon!?


Lets have a vote.

hehehe

She's real alright ;)

652) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 24896)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
HI Everyone!!! I've never seen the "Sound of Music" either. At least not all of it, I've turned it off a number of times, its just not my cup of tea.
;-p

Bruce, I'm surprised with you. It's everyone's duty to grin and bear it at least once in their lifetime. You might find it easier to visit Mecca, but you just gotta get with the 'hills are alive' just the once at least ;)
653) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24890)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
With the advent of decent GPUs and GPU crunching, the cost of the base computer now for outways the cost of the GPU and we (yes everyone who has purchased a GPU for crunching) are happy that we get more bang for our buck with a GPU.

I would go a little farther than that with my bangs for a buck and say in my case I have incurred the cost of ATI GPU cards - but that's it, just the electricity costs. I have managed to use older PCs with PCI-E slots that were destined for landfill. They aren't much good for anything else and could expire on me at any time - but then I'll just go and visit the landfill again.

That is one of the key successes of the GPU cards - any old crummy PC will do so long as you can install the GPU and run BOINC.
654) Message boards : Number crunching : How to Get Work (Message 24883)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Almost seems a reduntant question now.

The answer is of course - just sit back and watch 'em roll..............

Get a few ATI cards and watch 'em rock as well ;)


Did you forget the part about electricity?

Not at all. I'm going to start cycling now and using my car less so I can afford to keep my pong pump running 24/7. The little fishes just love it ;)

655) Message boards : Number crunching : How to Get Work (Message 24841)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Almost seems a reduntant question now.

The answer is of course - just sit back and watch 'em roll..............

Get a few ATI cards and watch 'em rock as well ;)

656) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24826)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Gee Ice. Your surrounded by all kind of nice looking women.
Maybe I should join Team England

Martin

Ah, you should join the team that you want to be with, that will be good and faithful to you.

Is my advertising campaign working then? :P

I don't know about being surrounded by women, but you will be more than welcome to join Team England :)
657) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 24825)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hehehe - aye, they can take a lot those Blue Norwegians -
Still only resting.. ;-)) Note! Its not caused of Baileys!

Peter! Peeeeter! Come over here..!! Your going to lose your parrot. :p

Just a very small point, almost insignificant, but it's a Norwegian Blue, not a Blue Norwegian. The difference is as slight as to whether it is merely deep in thought, or not moving because it's temporarilly savouring some particularly good basil and kipper soup...

658) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 24811)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Peter - Is "parrot" off-topic or a opptim. app for GPU? update me on it, will you? Lol. ;-)


I picked two words that Ice wrote - "dead certain"...and referenced the Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch...

It's never as funny if you have to explain it...

Oh, and the whole "tea and a slice" thing... Pink Floyd


Hmm... isnt that parrot even Norwegian? wow - thats a coincidence. lol.

A Norwegian Blue if I recall. But he wasn't dead. Just resting.


Pining for the fjords...

There.. I told you he wasn't dead. He was pining for the fjords and must have been momentarily stunned...

659) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 24810)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
3 Million total, 140k today alone!!!

Geez back in 2006 it took two years with 12x P2-333Mhz to get 800k - to now do that in a week....

Well done borandi ;)



660) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 24808)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Peter - Is "parrot" off-topic or a opptim. app for GPU? update me on it, will you? Lol. ;-)


I picked two words that Ice wrote - "dead certain"...and referenced the Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch...

It's never as funny if you have to explain it...

Oh, and the whole "tea and a slice" thing... Pink Floyd


Hmm... isnt that parrot even Norwegian? wow - thats a coincidence. lol.

A Norwegian Blue if I recall. But he wasn't dead. Just resting.
661) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Availability v2 (June 9) (Message 24803)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
>not gripe and complain
Well we're used to shortages by now... and restart the scripts if necessary.

Yea, and take the tea and biscuits away from old men who probably prefer cocoa and Jaffa cakes anyway, but wouldn't be seen dead with fairy cakes.

662) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24782)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you are here, and you are volunteering and bearing the cost of running your systems then you are in the "we" like it or not ...

I think your are missing my point, as you seem to miss everything in your ramblings. Please don't speak for me. Please don't spout your opinions with your 'we' as if those opinions include me. You also seem to want to speak for the project admin here, but I don't see anything that indicates you represent them, and you certainly don't represent me. "I" am not doing science on the cheap even if you think eveyone else is - get it? "I" do not think that "we can do things cheaply", whether as "we" you are talking about all crunchers or as a MilkyWay project staff (get them to give you a tag if you are). I am certainly not part of any of your "we" since I repeat my view that the project cost with all the contributions of volunteer time, computers and electricity bills is HUGE.
663) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Availability v2 (June 9) (Message 24779)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



Looking good!


Have a bit of problem with debts personal and BOINC but working them out.

Watch your bank - it'll take your house if it has half a chance.
664) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 24778)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I was the first to set up an account so I should get the first complaint, but I complain that someone pushed in front of me, stole the shopping from my basket, and is now using scripts there to make a cup of tea for an old man :P


For want of the price of tea and a slice?

The old man probably didn't even drink tea, just cocoa, but neither was that dead certain.
665) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 24776)
Posted 10 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Thankyou AriZonaMoon and John Clark for your kind comments. It looks like with all our CPU/GPUs now fully charged there will be a few more milestones coming soon ;)

666) Message boards : Number crunching : Work Availability v2 (June 9) (Message 24727)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Oh my. All my ATIs are going like the clappers :-O



667) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 24723)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Team England (Boinc)

Congratulations on 40 million in MW :)

668) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24722)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Congratulations on 40 million in MW :)

Congratulations on 130 million combined :)



Click Miss England to join :)
669) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24693)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You are looking at it from YOUR perspective, not the project's ...

Not looking anywhere really, just concerned that you are belittling my 'cheap' efforts. It's not 'cheap' for the project either. Everyone can clearly see that the total cost of the project is HUGE with the all the crunching contribution included, and that contribution is not 'cheap'.

By all means describe your contribution and efforts as 'cheap', but less the the 'we' since I certainly object to be included in your 'we'.

but, because we are doing science on the cheap ...


670) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 24692)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
But hey, the web site is up! It must have work!

lets complain!

Oh please please can I complain?!?!?!?!?!?!

I was the first to set up an account so I should get the first complaint, but I complain that someone pushed in front of me, stole the shopping from my basket, and is now using scripts there to make a cup of tea for an old man :P

Timing is everything.

Yea, timing and poise at the keyboard when Travis said things would be up and running "later tonight". And a bit of luck that I pressed the keys at the right time before borandi, banditwolf and others who were also perched on keyboards ;)

671) Message boards : Number crunching : ps_sgr_235_3s errors remain (Message 24656)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
'bad WU! bad, bad WU!
Now go back to your kennel. :)

I blame the owners myself. It's the way the WUs are brought up ;)

Yea I had a bunch of bad ones yesterday.
Gave em a right good thrashing before I sent em back, I can tell you...

Bread and water is just too good for them...

672) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24645)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
but, because we are doing science on the cheap ...

Cheap? The PCs we use are not cheap, and neither is the electricity to run them. The GPU cards are not cheap either, and neither is the electricity to run them.

Whatever you say about the servers - MilkyWay is getting our computers, GPU cards (from some of us) and electricity - which are not 'cheap'.

673) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU II (Message 24639)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


But hey, the web site is up! It must have work!

lets complain!




Oh please please can I complain?!?!?!?!?!?!

I was the first to set up an account so I should get the first complaint, but I complain that someone pushed in front of me, stole the shopping from my basket, and is now using scripts there to make a cup of tea for an old man :P

674) Message boards : Number crunching : ps_sgr_235_3s errors remain (Message 24638)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
'bad WU! bad, bad WU!
Now go back to your kennel. :)

I blame the owners myself. It's the way the WUs are brought up ;)
675) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24637)
Posted 9 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
youre welcome to come back in a few months and see if its more to your liking then.

I'm here after a few months, and I can say that, emm, that... hmmmm ... what are we waiting for again?


Normality to occur.....

It's a long wait ...
676) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24599)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
this is monotonous.

Yes I agree. And yours is a bit brief.

[edit] No actually, I disagree. This a Team Recruitment thread which could get quite competitive. Come on Crunch3r - your turn.
677) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24597)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Team England (Boinc), was founded in February 2006 and has its roots in the BBC Climate Change Experiment. In March 2007, the team decided to explore the wider Boinc world and now supports all of the major projects and most of the lesser known ones. Our aim is to be the UK's number one Boinc team now that we have achieved our aim of breaking into the top 100 Boinc teams.

If you are looking for a friendly community that will help you out, this is the team to join. Our forum provides a place for members to chat and exchange information and experiences about the various projects, as well as providing up-to-date project and team news. So why not come and join us, you'll be very welcome!


Click here to join Team England (Boinc)

[

678) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24586)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:





Click Miss England to join :)
679) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24583)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:





Click Miss England to join :)

680) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero wu's. (Message 24580)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I just started up some work. Looks like John stopped a bunch of searches and didnt start any new ones up :P

I think you should allow him more coffee breaks. ;-P

Throw some food in once and a while too.

And a big sign over the server consol: "remember to start more searches, or food stops"

:p

681) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero wu's. (Message 24576)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I just got 5 tasks

682) Message boards : Number crunching : Zero wu's. (Message 24571)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The server status shows 0 wu's to send.

So it does. Is the sky about to fall in?

683) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24570)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
youre welcome to come back in a few months and see if its more to your liking then.

I'm here after a few months, and I can say that, emm, that... hmmmm ... what are we waiting for again?

684) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24543)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So to sum it up..they don't care; as long as the WU's are being crunched..Even though their server can't handle the load, lol.

The admin here are building a new project, MilkWay_GPU, to take the GPU load away from this one. The have said again and again that this was a better way to resolve the situation than continually trying to tweak this project, thus giving MilkyWay_GPU their attention, and leaving this project, MilkyWay, 'as is' until MilkyWay_GPU is ready.

So to sum it up.. not as you said.
685) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 24542)
Posted 8 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

well like right now it is really complicated and i can't find the files i have to edit and stuff, so when is it going to be released in the sense that it will just happen.

That will happen after DA gets the ball rolling on BOINC Manager 6.10.x which should have support for ATI GPU's.

I appreciate your point Robert. For example, with GPUGRID all you have to do is have a nVidia card installed with drivers and BOINC manager will detect that you have the card and download and process the WUs for you automatically.

With the ATI 'bolt-on' here you have to make a number of decisions and do a number of things to get ATI crunching just now. For example, you have to choose between the Windows and Linux optimized apps. For Windows you have to select a driver for the ATI card that works with the apps. You have to decide on which app to use with CPU-Z as your guide, and decide where in your BOINC folders to copy the files. There is also an xml file to edit with your choices.

Decisions, decisions and choices which, as you say, can be quite complicated for some. But quite frankly that's the way it is; there isn't a less complicated or better way right now with the authors of the apps and others giving welcomed assistance.

Let's hope that using ATI GPUs in MilkyWay_GPU is less complicated.
686) Message boards : Number crunching : Confused..about what GPU support is coming 1st (Message 24466)
Posted 7 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

But why then is a ATI app out already, when Cuda is the one that is supported by BOINC?

Because some bright spark reckoned that ATI was faster than nVidia, and had a go at writing an optimized app for MilkWay while the MilkyWay admin were still thinking about CUDA, and some of us dashed out and got ATI cards and proved the bright spark right - the ATIs are ..... fast!

Travis is still working on CUDA and an ATI version for MW_GPU. It’s just that the bright spark and his helpers got there first with the ATI rocket science.

687) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 24454)
Posted 7 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Well done arkayn. I'm on my hols, so sorry for the delay, but zslip is now updated.


688) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI GPU app 0.19f fixes the ps_sgr_208_3s errors (Message 24453)
Posted 7 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Cluster Physik fixes it :) Well done!

Hello!

The Version 0.19f of the ATI GPU application
is ready for download. Besides the fix for the three stream WUs it reports now the GPU time as WU time.

Be sure to update your GPU apps as soon as possible, so the project can continue with the new searches!

PS:
Read the readme.txt!

689) Message boards : Number crunching : Feeder not running. (Message 24076)
Posted 3 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


It's my fault. Every rime I go on holiday the feeder stops.

Amazingly though, I've had fantastic weather on the south coast. Am I bovered about the feeder? ;)

690) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Gibraltar (Message 24074)
Posted 3 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The citizens there have voted time and time again overwhelmingly to remain British.

I went to Gibraltar once, stayed overnight on my travels. I don't profess to be on expert on Gibraltar, but I do know that Gibratar does not belong to Spain and niether do the waters around it, and have not for hundreds of years. My understanding is that whilst Gibraltar has the protection of the UK, it is run and administered by the people who live there, who wish to remain British, as quoted above.

691) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 24070)
Posted 3 Jun 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


692) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread 2 (Message 23811)
Posted 31 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
693) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 23768)
Posted 31 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Be a winner!

Click Miss England to join :)


694) Message boards : Number crunching : How to Get Work (Message 23744)
Posted 31 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
RAC: 323
???

Must be waiting for the wingman so all the pendings will validate, eh? ;)

So how much anyone want to bet this thread gets the most views in MW history because the title.. *snicker*

Wot? You think it will top the zslip "get your optimized apps here" thread? Good luck ;)
695) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 23692)
Posted 30 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have added two more countries from which zslip has had visitors; Taiwan and Thailand.

There have been 483 vistors this week, with a daily average now of 69.

The last visitor was from Bratislava, Slovakia. I went to Slovakia on a motor bike once. This photo was taken a few miles away from Bratislava.
696) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 23601)
Posted 28 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
zslip.com is a web site that hosts downloads for optimized applications which have been developed by third parties for MilkyWay@home crunching.

And just in case you can't remember that site http://www.creditsathome.com is impossible to forget.

Drat, I'd forgotten about that again. Thanks again Misfit for the link impossible to forget ;)

697) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 23579)
Posted 28 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Back in the Top 20 participants on credit after a long slog during which no groceries were stolen from any shopping baskets, but an Intel Atom may have been used for a short time to help me out. Actually, I confess, it's crunching for me right now, but I very much doubt if I could squeeze an ATI HD4870 into a Samsung N10.

Anyway, bully for me, I'm about to hit a quarter million RAC.

698) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 23562)
Posted 28 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

A reminder and to new users;

zslip.com is a web site that hosts downloads for optimized applications which have been developed by third parties for MilkyWay@home crunching. Links to posts are provided which help with the use of the optimized apps, and you can always post your questions on the MilkyWay forums.

Good luck with your crunching, and good luck with the optimized apps. Thanks again to Cluster Physik and speedimic, and to others concerned, for developing and testing these apps for us.

699) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23461)
Posted 27 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I vote no to the limiting of wu do I hear a second it motion?


Seconded.

Hold on. The sky's the limit. Let me think about it...
700) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23403)
Posted 26 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
To be honest, before people started using scripts to hammer the server, we were getting around 9-11 workunits a second. Now we're seeing around 6-7 workunits a second.


Now shouldn't this get some/all to let off their scripts so they could actually get more work? What more proof is needed that the scripts are hindering the project?

Proof? I wonder what 'proof' you are talking about? That the only people using scripts are those crunching GPU WUs? Or that most, by far, of crunchers here are CPU crunchers, and that most, by far of script users are CPU crunchers? Or that the user base has increased rapidly since word got out that pretty damn good credits can be had by using optimized apps at MilkyWay? And that most of these new crunchers are CPU crunchers and not GPU crunchers? And that the talk and detailed publication of script useage has made it more and more likely that more and more are taking to script usage?

Or a combination of some or all of the above? Let's hear the 'proof' please, and perhaps think before making unsubstantiated allegations?"

701) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23384)
Posted 26 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ageless wrote:
I have taken my systems off of Milkyway as per immediately. They won't return until the GPU project is up&running and the kinks have been ironed out over there.

And even then, what's to keep the scripters from keeping their scripts running to get more work for their CPUs once their GPUs have moved? Nothing.


I don't think anyone should be standing down their MilkyWay crunching. Your penultimate sentence here is interesting Jord "what's to keep the scripters from keeping their scripts running to get more work for their CPUs once their GPUs have moved?". It will be interesting to see if the complainers still continue to blame GPU crunchers even if there is no GPU crunching here anymore ;)

702) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23355)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Spankinmonkee wrote:

One thing thats going on and maybe most are not aware. The Top 2 teams in Boinc are battling it out for bragging rights on MW before the the project freezes the old stats.

It's never occurred to me to take a look at the top teams in MW. I'm pleased to see my team in the top 12, but more so, to see 3 teams from the UK in the top 12. I'm sure we'll be battling for top bragging rights before the project freezes any stats ;)

Oh I remember now, as well as the science, this is about fun, friendly competition between individuals and teams...
703) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23348)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



Thanks for the explanation Travis. looking forward to what's beyond that tunnel ;)

704) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23322)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The lack of WU's created is not caused by those using scripts.

That could well be a revelation to some.

"Read my lips..."
705) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23283)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You have all forgot one thing!!! This is a CPU project,not a GPU project!!!

That is absolutely wrong. Your Honour, I place before you exibit one, the website "zslip.com" stickied by Travis and offering optimized apps for both CPU and GPU. Such website has been in place for some months now and I submit that the prosecution are trying to rewrite BOINC history by stating that this is not a GPU project and most probably trying to suggest it never was.

Case closed, prosecution please stop the persecution.
706) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23277)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You're wrong Bill. There is no DoS attack occuring.

The current limit was hit after a server outage a while ago. Prior to that there was approx 40% more work available.

One of the things that I admire about this project are the two administrators, Travis and Dave, who have been part of building this project with colleagues at their university and who are the interface between us and the project. Yes, they haven't been perfect and some communication from them has been was lacking. But this communication from them I am sure of; it's their intention that there are enough WUs for all, they invite and support use of optimized aplications, for all to do more science; They see the 'no work' as a problem they are trying to fix, and have chosen to do it by building another project - MilkyWay_GPU - and move all GPU crunching there, so that all crunchers, CPU and GPU, will have as many WUs to crunch as they are scientifically inclined.

I doubt whether anyone has a pure heart or that the phantom DoS scripter exists anywhere but in a few threads here of late. Sincere intentions I respect, but some of this these recent negative posts (I don't include you The Gas Giant) are making this forum a little depressing don't you think?
707) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 23270)
Posted 25 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The real winner here is the project!! More science is being done than EVER before.

It's a pity that some have to complain about others doing more science than ever before. According to the stats, on average active users in MW have 1.8 active hosts. Those who only have one host might consider attaching another 0.8 so that they could do even more science than ever, and welcome all new users!
708) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 23185)
Posted 24 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
One of the nice things about BOINC is that there are now lots of choices to be had.

Yes there are, and some take them. Others continue dreaming of the past.

709) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 23184)
Posted 24 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


14,000,000 in MW

8th in RAC, 25th in credit.


710) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Strange but true (Message 23088)
Posted 23 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Kes, a palomino pony, has "adopted" a lamb on a farm near Truro, in Cornwall. The horse became so protective towards the lamb he
had to be moved to a different field after chasing its mother away.



711) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link III (Message 23087)
Posted 23 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


~ (of) money

712) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 23086)
Posted 23 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
For now, I have now completely done with MW CPU cruching for reasons of efficiency, saving on electric bills, and not wanting to start up those air conditioning units as summer approaches. I for one look forward to some decent credit returns from fewer PCs with GPU cards and not being driven to distraction by the heat pumped out by all those CPU crunching PCs on a hot summer day.

Take the money and run.

Yes, that's one way of putting it. Take the money from lower elecricity bills and at the same time contribute an enormous amount to MilkyWay by running its WUs with super efficient ATI GPUs.
713) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 23058)
Posted 22 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@Ice, not using the gecko anymore?

Oh yes certainly, just seeing if my old look speeds up my RAC a bit more :P


Put the gecko on his visor. The best of both. :P

Now there's an idea I couldn't resist ;)
714) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 23053)
Posted 22 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's good to hear that there is some future ATI card support.

For now, I have now completely done with MW CPU cruching for reasons of efficiency, saving on electric bills, and not wanting to start up those air conditioning units as summer approaches. I for one look forward to some decent credit returns from fewer PCs with GPU cards and not being driven to distraction by the heat pumped out by all those CPU crunching PCs on a hot summer day.
715) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 23052)
Posted 22 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@Ice, not using the gecko anymore?

Oh yes certainly, just seeing if my old look speeds up my RAC a bit more :P
716) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 23045)
Posted 22 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It might do


It might not...


...that is the question.

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action. - Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd.
717) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 23012)
Posted 22 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



It might not...


718) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 22931)
Posted 21 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hope this is clearer...and it is most definitely not a far-fetched idea...

I hope with certainty that this *is* a far fetched idea. At the beginning when the ATI development started, I asked Travis the speific question as to whether he would drop the tariff for the GPU crunched work units. His answer was very specific, that he would not. Credits would be applied the same no matter how the WUs were crunched.

This 'risk' of diminished returns just because you were using a GPU was ruled out by Travis and I don't see why this should change. A work unit crunched should get the same credit no matter who or what crunched it.
719) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 22926)
Posted 21 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I swear...it really isn't this difficult to do conceptual thinking...

I'm sure you're right Brian. But I swear... there are no 'CPU' WUs and no 'GPU' WUs. There are just work units which the crunchers decide what to crunch with, since Cluster Physik gave us that choice...

720) Message boards : Number crunching : Future ATI Card Support? (Message 22903)
Posted 21 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I understand the frustration of people who invested money into ATI-cards because of BOINC(Milkyway) but in my eyes there are two fundamental misunderstandings

1. BOINC is meant to use spare cpu/gpu cycles to do something useful while not doing their intended work. So any investment dedicated to BOINC is the first basic mistake

2. Neither BOINC nor any project ever promised that any specific system will be supported. Even a complete project could be ended without any entitlement from the volunteers. So to bet on a specific system is the second basic mistake

For Milkyway i don't believe they will end support for ATI not for the non-gpu project and of course not for the gpu project. Cluster Physik already said that he'll work on a ATI app for the gpu project perhaps until the weekend.

I see absolutely no reason for a project to release an app for hardware not supported by BOINC such work will use a lot more project resources than standard apps and is very likely to not work anymore when the hardware will be supported by BOINC, so work has to be done twice. If i take into account how long it took to make the gpu-project, i can't see any free resources for an official ATI-app.

To focus on something not officially supported always includes the risk that it will not work anymore in the future. If you want to go with this risk - do it, if it is too much risk - let it be. But do not blame anyone else for decisions you made for your own.

will all the folks who have purchased ATI cards be left out in the cold?
They will be left exactly there where they were left all the time.

That last sentance is correct at least ;) However, BOINC is meant to do a number of things, and one of them is to attract people to donate their computers free of charge. Saying that you need to do no more than contribute your spare cycles is just one way of selling a punter the idea of BOINCing. After that, if you want to run quad cores, and a number of them, exclusively for BOINC, then that's up to you. But certainly no basic mistake.

No-one should be concerned about having no use for a PC (or many) if a projects goes under, as many have. We just switch to another project (or some). No mistake there either for anyone to choose any project and worry about it going bust.

So what about ATI cards? Is it a mistake to buy one now? I can't say, I'm unlikely to buy any more, my buying contribution there is done. Was it a mistake to buy ATI cards? I can only speak for myself; I have millions of credits generated in a very short time, and I am turning off electricity hungry CPU crunchers all the time as I concentrate loads'a'crunch into fewer boxes (actually my initial idea was to make do with one box, but then maybe I want more than 'just enough' :)
..... and the yellow brick road just seems to go on and on and on.....

For those who went for ATI at the start I'd say it was no mistake, and for me an interesting journey to get caught up with them in MW crunching. For those thinking about it, you can see what's gone before and what might go from now. As for me, I will have ATI and zillions of credits whatever happens.
721) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22813)
Posted 20 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Travis wrote:
currently it's crunching the current stripe 82 WUs in around a minute using a GeForce 9600M GT.


Nasicus wrote:

At the moment I'm using an ATI with app_info for Milkyway and a nVidia for GPUgrid in the same PC. Will it be possible to use an ATI card and a nVidia card at the same time for Milkyway?


How exciting. That's the card I have in my laptop - will it share with GPUGRID ?
722) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 22775)
Posted 20 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
About to hit a RAC of 200,000. Now accumulating over 6 million credits a month (more if MW gets going).

LOL..It's still a long way to the top for bragging rights.

This project has made a joke out of the stats.

I have to disagree with that statement.

If 3rd parties are able to 'optimise' or get the same work done on an 'anonamous' platform more quickly and validly then so be it. All the better for those willing to participate!

Well said The Gas Giant. Work done rapidly or lots of it ought to be celebrated, as it it should be here in MW.
723) Message boards : Number crunching : MW power outages (Message 22746)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
[off topic]
It has been a huge help with finding updates to opti apps :D

That was/is the idea ;) You're very welcome asb2016

[/off topic]
724) Message boards : Number crunching : MW power outages (Message 22741)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

& thanks for the updates on CUDA!! Im really excited to see it running and see what numbers my geforce cards can do :D


IS MW CUDA up and running then? I can't even raise the MW-GPU website.
725) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 22739)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
ice wrote:


RAC of 150,000 reactivated, but normality has not yet been achieved.


That was 10 days ago. Now I'm at 190,000 RAC

I wonder what the probability will bring in the next 10 days...
726) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones II (Message 22736)
Posted 19 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
About to hit a RAC of 200,000. Now accumulating over 6 million credits a month (more if MW gets going).

(My BOINCstats RAC is now 197,221)
727) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22506)
Posted 17 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Another milestone to add; I'm in the top 10 for RAC




In the words of AC/DC...

"It's a long way to the top if you want a sausage roll...."

No, I don't want to brag about sausage rolls. You might want to. I just want to brag about being a bigger badder cruncher with zillions of credits and in team simply zooming up the charts ;) Stop whining. There's too much of it. This is a thread for celebrating milestones. Not singing about sausage rolls or fairies either.

Being a foreigner living in Britain, you're going to want to understand popular culture a little more....

I have reported your post as being racist. I am British but have no idea what drugs you are on pal, but racism is not acceptable anywhere.
728) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link III (Message 22499)
Posted 17 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



sausage maker


729) Message boards : Number crunching : Just HAD to say Hi to the Moderator here :-) (Message 22498)
Posted 17 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
haha i just caught that. thanks. well it's up to travis when he's going to release it. i have no idea. i'm on summer break but i still try to keep up with things. he said he had a version that was partially working.

Cheers Dave. Nice to hear from you ;)
730) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22496)
Posted 17 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Another milestone to add; I'm in the top 10 for RAC




In the words of AC/DC...

"It's a long way to the top if you want a sausage roll...."

No, I don't want to brag about sausage rolls. You might want to. I just want to brag about being a bigger badder cruncher with zillions of credits and in team simply zooming up the charts ;) Stop whining. There's too much of it. This is a thread for celebrating milestones. Not singing about sausage rolls or fairies either.
731) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 22454)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Douze points pour la fille avec les gros boobies

Is that Creole?
732) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 22452)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Is it only me, or is anyone else having the problem with 6.6.28 where after a reboot, the app_info and application are gone ...

6.6.28? Good grief, I'm still on 5.10.45 ;)
733) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 22451)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
&#1062;&#1077; &#1074;&#1089;&#1077;&#1090;&#1072;&#1088;&#1072;&#1073;&#1072;&#1088;&#1097;&#1080;&#1085;&#1080;&#1084;&#1077;&#1085;&#1110;
Nevermind. That didn't work. I'll try braille next.

what WAS that meant to be, btw??

Ukrainian

But the braille is in English


734) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 22449)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
&#1062;&#1077; &#1074;&#1089;&#1077;&#1090;&#1072;&#1088;&#1072;&#1073;&#1072;&#1088;&#1097;&#1080;&#1085;&#1080;&#1084;&#1077;&#1085;&#1110;
Nevermind. That didn't work. I'll try braille next.

what WAS that meant to be, btw??

Ukrainian
735) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 22448)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Of course that's because you are stealing all of my workunits.

I always wanted to be a Steeler. Of course that's because I'm a winner not a whiner.
736) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link III (Message 22444)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



cupid


737) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 22442)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
&#1062;&#1077; &#1074;&#1089;&#1077; &#1090;&#1072;&#1088;&#1072;&#1073;&#1072;&#1088;&#1097;&#1080;&#1085;&#1080; &#1084;&#1077;&#1085;&#1110;
Nevermind. That didn't work. I'll try braille next.

I got a Braille prog is you want a copy...

I have one thanks.


738) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 22440)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh no, its that time of year again:

Royaume-Uni, nul point.


Yup. Norwege 12 point. ;p

HAHAHA!! Kokosnøtter, tolv poeng.


Our non-EU friends will be wondering what its all about.

Mind you, I do as well...




hehe..

maybe they know better than we do ;-)

Its Fairytale.

&#1062;&#1077; &#1074;&#1089;&#1077; &#1090;&#1072;&#1088;&#1072;&#1073;&#1072;&#1088;&#1097;&#1080;&#1085;&#1080; &#1084;&#1077;&#1085;&#1110;
Nevermind. That didn't work. I'll try braille next.
739) Message boards : Number crunching : Just HAD to say Hi to the Moderator here :-) (Message 22427)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Caught that last name, sticking out a hand to shake and saying hello. (Przybyla with a A at the end here). LOL


Hello Dave! Nice to hear from you after so long. How's it going? MW-GPU almost there? 'No work' here nearly sorted sorted out?

btw, nice try with the 'John' and the 'a', but hey, at least you posted ;)

LOL :)
740) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Strange but true (Message 22424)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

A passer-by tries Victorian workhouse gruel in Piccadilly, London
741) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22414)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Another milestone to add; I'm in the top 10 for RAC


742) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 22402)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:






BOINC World position based on RAC = 40 out of 81,742



Dohhhh. Shudd'v kept shhtumffff.
743) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Strange but true (Message 22394)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


As a Ukrainian crunching for Team England I see that Ukraine is just below Team England in world rankings and Russia just above. Now that really is strange but true.




744) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 22393)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Welcome to Celestia
The free space simulation that lets you explore our universe in three dimensions. Celestia runs on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X.
http://www.shatters.net/celestia/

Misfit, your new avatar/sig is making me want to go and see the new Star Trek movie. Even more so, I have urges to load up Command & Conquer Generals on my new laptop. Surely I have enough graphic cards to play this game now ;)
745) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22392)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




Team England (Boinc) 115,000,000 - 79th in world ranking

746) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link III (Message 22391)
Posted 16 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



~wink



747) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 22362)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:






BOINC World position based on RAC = 40 out of 81,742


748) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 22357)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I guess all anyone needs to do is post here and they will get some work

post here
749) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Strange but true (Message 22335)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Claudia Davies puts the finishing touches to a giant hanging basket measuring 20ft (6.1m) wide and 10ft (3m) high brightening-up a street in London.

750) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Misfit wanted the Fairy tale (Message 22333)
Posted 15 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't want anyone to fail, I would like us all to succeed ...

That's well said Paul. Those, like yourself, who take the trouble to help others are noticed and, I am sure, are appreciated.

Ice, your avatar compels me to save over 15% on my car insurance.

It compels me to want to change the channel.

It's on every channel. Perhaps you'd prefer to watch a DVD.


I love ICE his avatar almost like my little monster :D
He runs happily over the windows when he is set free for a few hours

You must let me know where to get one of those. A gecko running all over my screen to add to my cats constantly walking in front of it would be just wonderful :)
751) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Misfit wanted the Fairy tale (Message 22294)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't want anyone to fail, I would like us all to succeed ...


That's well said Paul. Those, like yourself, who take the trouble to help others are noticed and, I am sure, are appreciated.
752) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 22293)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Darnit Ice slowdown that RAC
me never get near you if you keep going so fast

I'm throwing everything I have at MW right now, except for what I'm pushing at CPDN, Cosmo, GuppieGrid and Rosetta. It's interesting times for me. I'm turning in the most credits for my team and my country right now, and my RAC is the all time highest it has ever been for me.

I think I'll let this candle flare a little longer and shine bright for this moment before summer arrives and it broils in my garage, and I wonder why I am spending on all this electicity and what on earth this is all achieving.

But hey, I want to be in the top 20 for RAC and credits (again) and have a website with a billion hits :P
753) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Strange but true (Message 22266)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

University of Central Lancashire, England (UCLan) student Sara Watson made a shabby Skoda Fabia "disappear" by
painting it into a canvas which matches the background of a parking space outside her studio.


754) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 22257)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
"borandi" wrote:
If you want to load several programs at once, they wipe the floor with Raptors. If you want to transfer large files, why are you using an SSD with not so much space? It's simple - SSDs work well as a boot drive, other HDDs are more suited to large file opening and/or transfer.


This is good information to have.

Do you happen to know what the exchange rate from £ to USD is nowadays?

£1.00 = $1.51 (according to BBC Radio 4 a few minutes ago)
755) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 22248)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If i come in the cold north i'll visit you.
For now i have set my plan to visit a friend in chile, before it gets struck by another mega earthquake :D

Or just go up north and get chile. Do both at once ;)
756) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 22247)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
College chicks ;-)


where, where :D

Send 'em here - there are never enough forum chicks :P

757) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 22214)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
LOL...

Come on guys... Just look at the Staff bio-snippets.

Travis: Graduate Research Assistant.

Dave: Undergrad Research Assistant.

The rest... Post Here... Probably not. Sorry, that's just the way it is. As far as Joe goes, I'll be positive, and speculate he got lucky and made a clean getaway by graduating.

Unless things about colleges and universities have changed a whole lot since I was in school:

1.) Research Assistant means you are a grunt, doing the work of two, three, four or more people (right up to the point where your endurance and sanity snaps), in a variety of disciplines which sometimes is a stretch to call 'research'.

2.) Grad and Undergrad indicates that they have their own course, project, and other non MW related work which must get done in the search for that ever elusive 'sheepskin' (to then frame, hang on the wall, and admire henceforth).

3.) They might even perhaps be harboring illusions of finding and landing a job, paying real money, in their chosen fields in the near future. Silly them.

4.) They might even be spending time trying to figure out why the MW programming chores they've got going right now aren't working out quite the way they expected. Shocking.

So other than that, I can't think of any reason why they shouldn't be posting 20, 30 times a day with "It's not soup yet". :-D

Alinator


So what you're saying is,,,, that, *maybe*, they suddenly had a more interesting project to do, MW-GPU, so they dropped everything here and appointed Blurf so that they have an excuse with DA if we all go Guns 'n' Roses. Then, almost as suddenly, they graduated, got jobs, and dumped MW-GPU as well. All without telling us anything.

And in the meantime we're all slogging our computers on MilkyWay, whether getting work or some or not, slogging away, some having added GPU cards to their slogging power, some deciding others amongst us are responsible for work distribution/shortage when, in fact, the zoo keepers have left, leaving the locks locked.

?

That's right, I'm the gecko in this zoo ;)
758) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 22212)
Posted 14 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It must be difficult in a small project where theres only a couple of people to keep things running, sort out bugs and add new bits when they have real jobs to do at the same time.
And then answer a pile of PMs and read the myriad of "I cant get any work" posts.


But is easy to delete the account of one who worked doing fixings and optimizing the project faults during one year...

Oh to be a forum administrator and be given a bit of leeway for making a mistake or two.

Yes, but at least we get notifications on the front page and a post about the issues long before or pretty quickly after the fact like good administrators should do when they are providing a public service and take pride in their work. A big tick from me about how this project is performing!

Hmmmmmm. What a difference a day makes. Or has it been a month?

What a difference 11M credits make.

Check out my BOINCstats. I'm doing over 200,000 credits a day ;)

759) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 22178)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It must be difficult in a small project where theres only a couple of people to keep things running, sort out bugs and add new bits when they have real jobs to do at the same time.
And then answer a pile of PMs and read the myriad of "I cant get any work" posts.


But is easy to delete the account of one who worked doing fixings and optimizing the project faults during one year...

Oh to be a forum administrator and be given a bit of leeway for making a mistake or two.

Yes, but at least we get notifications on the front page and a post about the issues long before or pretty quickly after the fact like good administrators should do when they are providing a public service and take pride in their work. A big tick from me about how this project is performing!

Hmmmmmm. What a difference a day makes. Or has it been a month?


760) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Misfit wanted the Fairy tale (Message 22158)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Now you tell me boys and girls, who lived happily ever after?

I would say everyone except for the King (mean old tyrant) and the stranger (easily manipulated). After all, aren't we all happy boys and girls?

761) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 22152)
Posted 13 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


What a strange bunch you are. The first thing I do when I get to my laptop in the morning is to check whether my PCs are still crunching and calling for/getting work. What is being said on the forums is of secondary importance.


762) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22069)
Posted 12 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's about time we had some milestones for zslip.com

Total visits ; 15,458 (this week 430)

Average Per Day ; 61

Total Page views ; 23,892 (this week 768)

Average Per day ; 110


March was the busiest month. A busy little website, and hopefully still providing a useful service ;)
763) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 22060)
Posted 12 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm working on getting an update, guys.

Are you working on 0.19f instead of Cluster Physik ? ;)

He most likely meant that he is working on getting more information out for us. :)

I'd rather he worked on getting us more work :P

The invasion is underway.

Is it a secret invasion from some other project?
:-)

And forum!

Yep, I think you're right.
764) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22059)
Posted 12 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

15 , 000 , 000 overall

11 , 000 , 000 in MW


Spare some credits?? ((rattles cup))

Join Team England and you get to share the lot ;)

Including your videocards.

You can have the Blu-ray. Optical video is on it's way out. And the things won't crunch.
765) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Nevermind (Message 22056)
Posted 12 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
uihh ... a empty a cup of coffee, is a very bad thing!!!

How about a nice cup of tea for a change? Oh nevermind...

766) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22053)
Posted 12 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

15 , 000 , 000 overall

11 , 000 , 000 in MW


Spare some credits?? ((rattles cup))

Join Team England and you get to share the lot ;)
767) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 22041)
Posted 12 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

15 , 000 , 000 overall


11 , 000 , 000 in MW


768) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 21958)
Posted 11 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I'm working on getting an update, guys.

Are you working on 0.19f instead of Cluster Physik ? ;)


He most likely meant that he is working on getting more information out for us. :)

I'd rather he worked on getting us more work :P
769) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 21940)
Posted 11 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I'm working on getting an update, guys.

Are you working on 0.19f instead of Cluster Physik ? ;)

770) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 21921)
Posted 11 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, I dont think that is of much importance to you. But as you very well
know, there is only one... still it can go many times in a day.
That was not too difficult, was it? ;-)

Surely there is more than one ice breaker out there? Jaws and Speedy Gonzales must still be going round and round. Or did one of them sink, and Jaws II also?
771) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link III (Message 21831)
Posted 10 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
#1
772) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 21821)
Posted 10 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Dream on.......

Not holding my breath, but I can dream!
;-p

I dream of being number one there. But hey, I am - #1 user id ;)
773) Message boards : Number crunching : WUs distribution (Message 21812)
Posted 10 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hopefully. With 500 users ther already, hopefully the gpu site can keep them satisfied too.

That depends on whether those 500 users have nVidia cards and signed up for nVidia crunching.

774) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21745)
Posted 9 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Good Morning Dune,Phil,Moon & Es99!!
;-P Ice too!!! he-he

Morning Bruce. It's evening now - I've just returned from the Dominion theatre in London. We Will Rock You is absolutely fantastic, highly recommended.

775) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 21694)
Posted 9 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


RAC of 150,000 reactivated, but normality has not yet been achieved.



776) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 21693)
Posted 9 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Did Travis inadvertently created a Black Hole in which he got sucked in and disapeared from the surface of the earth?


If this is true then he must be running another MW in a parallel time zone.
If someone could find a link to this time-zone then – maybe there will be work units there to download :)

I thought I was there already - in the Twilight Zone ;)
777) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21691)
Posted 9 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, we'll all immigrate, or is that emmigrate???
Oh bliss. Off you go then...
Would that make any difference to anything?
I'm pretty sure they have the internet in most foreign countries.
I dont suppose they get any more work units there, either!
Unless they hammer the scheduler with a script.
You dont have to be a foreigner to do that, tho.

No, just a Templar


778) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 21648)
Posted 8 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Be a winner!

Click Miss England to join :)


779) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21647)
Posted 8 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

OK, we'll all immigrate, or is that emmigrate???

Oh bliss. Off you go then...



780) Message boards : Number crunching : Where do I put the optimized zslip.com files in Ubuntu? (Message 21561)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
paste the log up here.

my log might help


Yea but you need whopping great nails to get that log onto this board, and then the mods might complain it makes this tech area too rural or sommat.

I agree, Linux shouldn't be too interleaved.
781) Message boards : Number crunching : Where do I put the optimized zslip.com files in Ubuntu? (Message 21559)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
paste the log up here.

my log might help

782) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 21557)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
.
.
Congrats to all #1 crunchers!

Now I am Number 1 cruncher for Ukraine !

.


I have this sudden Urge to become a Ukraine Citizen ... :P

Ah, there are some things you just can't buy, some things a dozen ATI cards won't get you. But for me, just a few ATI cards and I'm the Number 1 of my country. (Until another Ukrainian with some empty PCI-E slots cottons on to what is going on here - ummmmm if they can find the work of course :)
783) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 21531)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Did you choose that country manually or was that done by script that changes countries every 15 seconds?

"that country" happens to be the country of my origin. I didn't choose my parents or that they are from Ukraine.
784) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 21511)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
.
.
Congrats to all #1 crunchers!

Now I am Number 1 cruncher for Ukraine !

.
785) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 21507)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Why is there throttling at all?

There is no throttling. Just ways of accelerating (optimized apps).

Why is there a shortage of workunit generation? Is there a limit of some kind that prevents new workunits from being created? (such as a lack of server/CPU/memory power-capacity to create said WUs?)


Apparently, the number of WUs is not the problem. The problem, I hear, is the bottleneck at the distribution point made by the hammering of gimme, gimme, gimme requests. So they say.


786) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 21493)
Posted 7 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well there goes the neighbourhood!

I'd like to think you would will assess peoples concerns regarding posts better than you do on other boards.

Nice one Blurf. You have them wanting to think ;)

Oh and BTW, welcome as moderator Blurf. All the best to you and respect for taking the time to do this.
787) Message boards : Number crunching : WUs distribution (Message 21444)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I can tell I am taking this all too seriously now and I refuse to buy any more of these Guppie cards. Dam things need PCs which clutter up my garage. I have a lizard to put on ice. Laters gators.

Me either perhaps I should turn off all of my computer and see how many $$$ I can save while waiting for WUs, perhaps that will add up for my new 4890 ;-P.

I'm tellin' ya what... Some have said that they "can't afford" to have their system idle. Actually, having them idle is more affordable...at least when speaking of money... ;-)

Thats so true Brian, but it's much more fun when the systems are whirrin' and the credits are rollin' in :P

It's amazing what 10M credits will buy you. Or perhaps how you can buy 10M credits.

That's missing the whole point of BOINC, if I might say so. The credits represent the contribution that you have made to BOINC projects. If they represent anything else, then joy and good luck with it ;)
788) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 21443)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

New moderator

789) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 21441)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Post 69.

Anyway, how about a poll. Regarding my avatar/profile should I:

1) Keep the same pic of Grace Park.
2) Change to a different pic of Grace Park.
3) Change to a different model and/or actress?

Go for 4) Change to Miss England


You'd prefer that over Bob the Alien?


Bob's very nice I'm sure, but she's got two hands...
790) Message boards : Number crunching : WUs distribution (Message 21432)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I can tell I am taking this all too seriously now and I refuse to buy any more of these Guppie cards. Dam things need PCs which clutter up my garage. I have a lizard to put on ice. Laters gators.




Me either perhaps I should turn off all of my computer and see how many $$$ I can save while waiting for WUs, perhaps that will add up for my new 4890 ;-P.


I'm tellin' ya what... Some have said that they "can't afford" to have their system idle. Actually, having them idle is more affordable...at least when speaking of money... ;-)

Thats so true Brian, but it's much more fun when the systems are whirrin' and the credits are rollin' in :P

791) Message boards : Number crunching : WUs distribution (Message 21426)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My cards are not 4890, and I aim to keep running them. What I am not running now is some of my PCs. I turned off 4 PCs and 2 laptops this past weekend, and another dual core today. But then I loaded a couple of CPDN WUs on it because they just don't give any fuss or demand micro monitoring. So that should give my cards a chance at some more WUs. I can tell I am taking this all too seriously now and I refuse to buy any more of these Guppie cards. Dam things need PCs which clutter up my garage. I have a lizard to put on ice. Laters gators.


792) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 21425)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Post 69.

Anyway, how about a poll. Regarding my avatar/profile should I:

1) Keep the same pic of Grace Park.
2) Change to a different pic of Grace Park.
3) Change to a different model and/or actress?

Go for 4) Change to Miss England


793) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 21424)
Posted 6 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Be a winner!

Click Miss England to join :)

(Miss England doesn't wear or smoke the hemp ;)
794) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 21347)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Congratulations CampaignForLiberty.com !

I have a few zeros myself now, but not quite as many ;)

10 million in MilkyWay

795) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 21322)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Be a winner!

Click Miss England to join :)
796) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21321)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've heard the virus is no worse than the usual winter flu. So unpleasant, but not the end of the world.

Only for those who die of flu.
797) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 21319)
Posted 5 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Arrakis



798) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21303)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Shurrup and keep clicking that button...

It's not working :( MY PC is workshy.

Pig flu has made it to one of the local schools Another school shuts as UK swine flu toll rises

I'm not looking forward to catching the flu..I am hoping that working in a school means that I have been exposed to almost every virus going at some point or another and my immune system is as highly trained as an SAS soldier. Fingers crossed.

*Goes to make a cup of echinacea tea*

[quote]
Just watching the news, it does seem that we are supposed to be in a state of perpetual fear.


  • Pakistan 'Cruicible of Terror' (OMG! OMG!..we're all gonna be killed by terrorists OMG!)
  • Swine flu (OMG! OMG! we're gonna die! We're gonna die!!)
  • Recession (ARRRRGH..we're all gonna lose our jobs and DIE!)
  • Terrorists are going to hack the olympics (OMG! OMG! The computers are gonna DIE!)



Does anyone else get tired of the hysteria?



Be careful what what you laugh off as hysteria. Swine flu strain #2 might well have you taking it seriously, even if the current victims don't.
799) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 21298)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Perhaps. I just wish they'd stop doing stuff like that. The scripts have never worked as planned. I think I was shortchanged the last time, but this time I wasn't really "active" when the whole error on downloading happened. I decided to grab a few tasks after seeing the reports of high memory usage just to see what it would do on my system, so I sorta feel like I got a "freebie", but so did everyone, so I'm not going to feel guilty...

I think we'd all settle on satisfactory communication from Admin. But messing up a free credit script was easier for them. Next they'll start a t-shirt contest as a PR move. :P

Actually, I think I'd like them to adapt their script, with whatever caused it to SELECT *, and have them give it to my bank and run it on all checking and savings accounts... ;-)

I'm still waiting for the transfer of 30M credits into my Cosmo acct.

I'm expecting transfer of 10M credits into my MilkyWay account to be complete any time now.

Sure that will be allowed - as long as they come from your Milkyway acct.

Oh, I was thinking of robbing a pension fund.

As long as it doesn't come from mine. That's been robbed enough as it is.

I was thinking 'bank' first, but they're all cleaned out right now.
800) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 21295)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Perhaps. I just wish they'd stop doing stuff like that. The scripts have never worked as planned. I think I was shortchanged the last time, but this time I wasn't really "active" when the whole error on downloading happened. I decided to grab a few tasks after seeing the reports of high memory usage just to see what it would do on my system, so I sorta feel like I got a "freebie", but so did everyone, so I'm not going to feel guilty...

I think we'd all settle on satisfactory communication from Admin. But messing up a free credit script was easier for them. Next they'll start a t-shirt contest as a PR move. :P

Actually, I think I'd like them to adapt their script, with whatever caused it to SELECT *, and have them give it to my bank and run it on all checking and savings accounts... ;-)

I'm still waiting for the transfer of 30M credits into my Cosmo acct.

I'm expecting transfer of 10M credits into my MilkyWay account to be complete any time now.

Sure that will be allowed - as long as they come from your Milkyway acct.

Oh, I was thinking of robbing a pension fund.
801) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 21293)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So it looks like I just keep on doing 'normal' MW on my Radeons with Cluster's client for a while... and GPUGrid on my 9800s.

I expect I'll be doing the same, except I only have just the one 9600.

802) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 21249)
Posted 4 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Perhaps. I just wish they'd stop doing stuff like that. The scripts have never worked as planned. I think I was shortchanged the last time, but this time I wasn't really "active" when the whole error on downloading happened. I decided to grab a few tasks after seeing the reports of high memory usage just to see what it would do on my system, so I sorta feel like I got a "freebie", but so did everyone, so I'm not going to feel guilty...

I think we'd all settle on satisfactory communication from Admin. But messing up a free credit script was easier for them. Next they'll start a t-shirt contest as a PR move. :P

Actually, I think I'd like them to adapt their script, with whatever caused it to SELECT *, and have them give it to my bank and run it on all checking and savings accounts... ;-)

I'm still waiting for the transfer of 30M credits into my Cosmo acct.

I'm expecting transfer of 10M credits into my MilkyWay account to be complete any time now.
803) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21139)
Posted 3 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I totally give up......

Bye.
804) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 21138)
Posted 3 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Screweheads?
Hehehehe


My head was attached sideways...with crazy glue.


Hi Al! Having your head screwed on right is a phrase meant to infer that you have the right idea about something. Then again I'm open to suggestions.... ;-))


Yes, that's one meaning, but not the only one. A screwed up head (screweheads?) infers you always think you are right, but invariably living in your own screwed up head, and using crazy glue doesn't help if your head is already screwed.

Alternatively, some weird sexual preference is being is being professed. Then again it could be an indication of dislike for heads.

Or simply a reference to Screw Heads songs.

Okidoki, at least there are two of us with our heads screwed on right...... ;-)))


Im afraid somone will say thats the other way.. ;-)))


Don't be afraid, be happy.
805) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 21116)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Step 16. DA shuts it down.


I think that is a bit unfair. He generally gets a bad press in Boinc which is not deserved. OK, he could be better at the PR thing, but scientists are what they are.


Plus, you can't afford to purchase an nVidia card since you spent all your money to buy kleenex to wipe off your brown nose.

806) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 21096)
Posted 2 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


ho-hum - so lacking in interest as to cause mental weariness


807) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 21057)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I apologize Ice
I should not have talked about OC and other things here.
I will keep this thread as it was originally made for.

Martin

No need to apologize Martin. Discussions tend to drift and are still welcome if useful. I for one wish I could understand how to OC more and find such discussion interesting.

I think the point that I'd like to make is that people should be allowed to say that they are unhappy about something as important as not being able to get work without being made fun of. More important is that Travis/Dave should drop by occassionally and at least don't leave us blaming each other or going round with wrong assumptions. Even if it means reinforcing explanation already given.
808) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 21049)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
btw.. If I was Travis, I would like to keep the happy cruncher, and let the unhappy ones go.


How about keeping the unhappy ones and let the quiet ones go? ;p It seems if there isn't something to complain about no-one is happy. :p


Hehe.. yes.. thats also a solution.

Let`s get out of this thread and have a Baileys.. ;-)

I'll stay with my glass of port. Bye.

This thread is asking why it is so difficult for some people to get work, and those people who are running this project should perhaps acknowledge this question and be concerned that some are unhappy, given that people are providing freely given resource to this project.

809) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 21039)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

btw.. If I was Travis, I would like to keep the happy cruncher, and let the unhappy ones go.

What is it with all this hero worship? Travis is only one of the people running MilkyWay@home, as stated on the home page. It is not for any of them to decide who is unhappy and to get rid of them. This thread is asking why it is so difficult for some people to get work, and those people who are running this project should perhaps acknowledge this question and be concerned that some are unhappy, given that people are providing freely given resource to this project.

810) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 21015)
Posted 1 May 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


tiddlywinks

811) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 20980)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


unsteady (hic!)

812) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20962)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Woah...slow down there little Billy...

Little Billy got his free credit.


Yeah, I posted on the boincstats forum about it... I knew it was a bad idea. I told Anshul that every time it is done, something goes wrong. Oh well... At least nobody got slighted, and nobody moved up or down in the project standings because everyone got the same amount. However, now the howling will start from the Kredit Kops... The 5000 for nothing will be first on the agenda. After that, I bet someone will be saying that 420 is "way too much credit". We might even get to see the claim that it's "ridiculous" or even "obscene"...

Happy happy!

I still don't know if I got free credits or not. How can you tell? I haven't looked into Cosmo for a while and you could have added to my credits or taken some away - I wouldn't have noticed either way ;)


Oh, how wonderful...

Here's your Cosmology account

I don't know what the larger spike is all about, but yes, you did get 5000 from the script they just ran...

Oh cool, I can see that isloated 5000 in a day recently. They should surprise us like this more often. Maybe even a free bonus from MilkyWay for turning up? ;p

[edit] the larger spike was probably me being reckless and crunching somewhere else for a change ;)
813) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20957)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Woah...slow down there little Billy...

Little Billy got his free credit.


Yeah, I posted on the boincstats forum about it... I knew it was a bad idea. I told Anshul that every time it is done, something goes wrong. Oh well... At least nobody got slighted, and nobody moved up or down in the project standings because everyone got the same amount. However, now the howling will start from the Kredit Kops... The 5000 for nothing will be first on the agenda. After that, I bet someone will be saying that 420 is "way too much credit". We might even get to see the claim that it's "ridiculous" or even "obscene"...

Happy happy!

I still don't know if I got free credits or not. How can you tell? I haven't looked into Cosmo for a while and you could have added to my credits or taken some away - I wouldn't have noticed either way ;)
814) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 20954)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I wish someone would add 5000 free credits to my MilkyWay total.

Oh Look! They just did :P

815) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 20898)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


fodder


816) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 20894)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I also keep reading about how they are working on a CUDA app, why not get the ATI one working first? Take on one thing at a time. There are other projects that are running under CUDA, this is the only one (recognized by BOINC) that runs under ATI.


That's because BOINC has endorsed CUDA, and thus getting that up as a project should be easier since they can get help from other people associated with BOINC (and/or SETI). This project running ATI is somewhat of a "rebel".

It's true that this project has done nothing to develop ATI optimized apps so far. This was done by Cluster Physik who is not employed by the MW project in any way, AFAIK. MilkyWay have not chosen to develop ATI GPU apps at any time, at all, so far.

That also applies to the CPU optimized apps that Cluster Physik developed for this project - they are not MilkyWay products either.

So if you wonder why MilkyWay keep quiet about these optimized apps - it's because they didn't do them. And if they've throttled their server in response to these optimized apps, both GPU and CPU, which they didn't write, then that's probably their best response to keep the whole thing from keeling over. At least they allow the continuing use of these optimized apps - both CPU and GPU. For which at least I am thankful. Hence no whinge from me. Thanks again Cluster Physik.
817) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 20887)
Posted 30 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



butterfly

818) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 20817)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


unconventional


819) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 20812)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


biological

820) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 20746)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

memories


821) Message boards : Number crunching : Is milkyway@home dead? (Message 20744)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@ Ice:

Of course, end of the year exams and other little problems like that might be throwing a wrench into the works a bit. ;-)

Alinator

Exams? Good luck with them. I took one recently, the first for a long, log time. It was truely horrid, all that studying into the night and it just taking over everything for a while. But it's great to pass, yippee!, and have another certificate to file away... ;)
822) Message boards : Number crunching : Is milkyway@home dead? (Message 20735)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
, at nearly two weeks from "almost there", I think an update is due...

It would be nice to hear something. It's awfully quiet around here recently...
823) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 20702)
Posted 28 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

824) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 20646)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
dunno. they come and go so quickly its as if they were never here.
and most of the time they aren't here at all...

Mine sure come and go quickly. Blink and they're crunched...

Try a P4 3GHz and you'll have around 47-48 minutes to watch them.

Actually I knew that when I started with the optimized apps months ago, before Cluster Physik even invented the ATI card ;) I have three P4 3GHz (without ATI cards) crunching right now.

I prefer to watch my PCs with ATI cards - they ripple through WUs in seconds. Much more interesting.

825) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 20631)
Posted 27 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am going to have to go see Moon and try some of her Rømmegraut, some friends were talking about it at a BBQ party the other day. I also hear that there are more and more people going there, so many that the ferries can't handle them all.

Ferries? There's more than one now?
826) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 20538)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
dunno. they come and go so quickly its as if they were never here.
and most of the time they aren't here at all...

Mine sure come and go quickly. Blink and they're crunched...
827) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 20536)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



click the pic for the video

828) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 20530)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



click the pic for the video

829) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 20499)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sorry, what was that again? At my age I tend to rely more on computer memory than my own!
The suggestion was mainly to help newcomers to MW. But that's pretty academic really unless you can get units to crunch.

creditsathome.com is a domain name that Misfit owns which he has forwarded to zslip.com.

zslip.com has already enabled newcomers to find the information needed to download and install the optimized applications for both CPU and GPU. You can try and find the original download sites or get then from creditsathome.com where you can also find the optimised application downloads.

creditsathome.com hands it all on the best 'one-stop' plate that you will currently find for MilkyWay optimized apps.

If you're looking for the optimized apps just remember creditsathome.



.
830) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 20496)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



click the pic for the video

831) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20494)
Posted 26 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's spring here. I love the spring when the trees start to become light green of new leaves.

I'm just so happy that they have stopped dropping leaves all over the garden. But the corkscrew hazel is still dropping twigs everywhere. It saves on prunning I guess ...

But you should have pruned it back in the autumn. There's a big corkscrew hazel growing in my brother's garden, it was as big as a van, so he has pruned it to a nicer size. He cut off some very long branches and some twigs back in November, my boss got them all, she uses them for her Christmas decorations. And now it looks much more nice and healthy.

Oh, but I do prune it in the autumn. Quite severly last autumn since you couldn't walk under it without it pretending it was a weeping willow. But then mine is the size of a house, much bigger than a van, and I can't get to the higher parts to prune more. 10 years ago I tried to anchor it to the fence to stop it being like the leaning tower of Pissa. Now it would take any fence any direction with it.

So, you like prunes in the autumn, eh? Find you can't walk afterwards and feel like a weeping willow, eh? Prunes the size of a house, eh?

I certainly don't go for prunes on my Pissa but a weeping willow would just about hit the spot.

The prunes aren't supposed to make you pissa. But they could make you weep.

Actually, it's usually Fosters that makes me pissa. Then I usually hug trees ;)

Watering the flora and recycling at the same time. It makes nature happy.

I went cycling by the water, Basingstoke Canal, only yesterday. In 1778 a Parliamentary Act was passed to allow a canal 44 miles long from Basingstoke to the River Wey. The outbreak of the War of American Independence caused a delay in raising the required capital required to start building the canal. Work finally started in 1788 and it should be finished anytime now.
832) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20474)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Whatever. I'm going to continue to run my Sapphire HD4850, SATA HDD and DVD reader/writer etc. in a PC with a 250W PSU.


I think you should get ready for a bang in the night....

As I said, it's the PC I put my first ATI in 8 million credits ago, many weeks ago, running 24/7 since then, and no bangs yet and why should there be?

What happened to your ATI then? Bang!

Oh mine must have gone BANG! My RAC has risen from 75,000 to 76,700 today. Bang! Wonder how much it will Bang! tomorrow night.
833) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20432)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Whatever. I'm going to continue to run my Sapphire HD4850, SATA HDD and DVD reader/writer etc. in a PC with a 250W PSU.

834) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 20403)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Your RAC is drooping.

Mine has drooped by 50% since 4 weeks ago or so. Then it was 150,000+ - now it's just 75,000
835) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20397)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's spring here. I love the spring when the trees start to become light green of new leaves.

I'm just so happy that they have stopped dropping leaves all over the garden. But the corkscrew hazel is still dropping twigs everywhere. It saves on prunning I guess ...

But you should have pruned it back in the autumn. There's a big corkscrew hazel growing in my brother's garden, it was as big as a van, so he has pruned it to a nicer size. He cut off some very long branches and some twigs back in November, my boss got them all, she uses them for her Christmas decorations. And now it looks much more nice and healthy.

Oh, but I do prune it in the autumn. Quite severly last autumn since you couldn't walk under it without it pretending it was a weeping willow. But then mine is the size of a house, much bigger than a van, and I can't get to the higher parts to prune more. 10 years ago I tried to anchor it to the fence to stop it being like the leaning tower of Pissa. Now it would take any fence any direction with it.

So, you like prunes in the autumn, eh? Find you can't walk afterwards and feel like a weeping willow, eh? Prunes the size of a house, eh?

I certainly don't go for prunes on my Pissa but a weeping willow would just about hit the spot.

The prunes aren't supposed to make you pissa. But they could make you weep.

Actually, it's usually Fosters that makes me pissa. Then I usually hug trees ;)

836) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 20396)
Posted 25 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What I don't understand is that the Ati cards are running this project right now...Wouldn't it make more sense to start the new GPU project with them since they are already proven to work and add the Cuda in the near future ?? All your problems between gpu and cpu users are solved..........Doing it this way you are causing more problems because you are going to be adding more users (nvidia card) before you move the ati cards to the new project.......

You are probably right. The only problem is that I don't have the code for the MilkyWay_gpu project to do the ATI port (a new application will be required for MW_gpu).

As long as there is no application (and no WU for it and a working website), ATI cards can't start on the new GPU project ;)


I'm afraid they know exactly that.....servers won't be stressed. Plenty time to fine tune Cpu side and Nvidia GPU side.

Time will tell..

Time is telling that we have a problem for both CPU and ATI-GPU here in that we can't get work even though, apparently, there is plenty available. I would have thought that some resources both from the project and that volunteered by Cluster Physik should be going into addressing this, eg, migrating ATI to MilkyWay_GPU. But instead all resource seems to be going into something that doesn't help current crunchers.
837) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 20326)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well folks. Before you can run the script to make the project, you have to build the boinc system. Which, to say the least, is not pleasant on FreeBSD systems. Anywho, to update on the status, Travis is working on the GPU app. He has been working on it for the past 2 weeks. He has to translate the entire code from C into CUDA, which obviously isn't trivial. He told me the other day that he's got some functionality out of it but it's not yet complete.

Thanks Dave. Any ball park estimates of when the new GPU project may be up and running?

This is obviously of interest to the CPU guys as well since the migration of GPU to the new project should make things better here.
838) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 20322)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If man shall survive, so must the animals.

I think it's more about man shall survive if animals do. For example;

"If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man."
(attributed to Albert Einstein)
839) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 20321)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This has nothing to do with any God. Man is, as animal, a part of this world.
If man shall survive, so must the animals. Man has to think himself. Not claim it to be a "God`s responsibility".

Now i`m off to feed Dolly. ;-p

I don't know who Dolly is, maybe I should, but I bought 20 kilos of fish food today to keep my fish fed and happy for a while ...
840) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 20319)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

There is a notion that God gave Man dominion over the world. Why would God punish the animals with such a cruel master?

--Ariesta Pelai, 1634 A.D.

841) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 20318)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I agree that occasional progress reports would be helpful


What, and waste 60 Seconds that could go to getting the Milkyway_GPU Project past the Almost There Stage. That could set it back another 2 Years if they did that ... :P

Ha ha, I must admit I started this thread in the hope that 'someone in the know' might say a few words. But if you're busy then an "Amost Almost There (or not)!" would be nice ;)
842) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 20303)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
There again I suppose its a human trait not to respect what you eat.

I'm not sure that is true for all. The Northern American indians were illustrated in 'The Last of the Mohicans' when Nathanial Poe killed an elk and the indians offer these words;

"We're sorry to kill you, Brother.
Forgive us. I do honor to your courage and
speed, your strength ... "

I'm sure there are other examples of humans respecting the dead animals that they need to kill for food.

843) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 20301)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
But isn't it just 'd/l html for your generic boinc website, change a couple of parameters [eg name from 'generic project name' to 'my project name'] and run installation script'? What speed 286 are they running this on? :)

I must admit I had wondered about 'some academics thinking it would be cool to make a GPU project, and throwing together a bog-standard BOINC forum together and proclaiming - Almost There!' ;)

Perhaps delivering a GPU-based project is a little more difficlt than envisaged, but it would be nice to know what was going on, if anything apart from the initial rush to set up accounts and teams.

844) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There! (Message 20284)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
MilkyWay_GPU - Almost There!

That's what it says on the MilkyWay_GPU home page dated April 16, 2009 - but what is the situation now? Does anybody know?
845) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20273)
Posted 24 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's spring here. I love the spring when the trees start to become light green of new leaves.



I'm just so happy that they have stopped dropping leaves all over the garden. But the corkscrew hazel is still dropping twigs everywhere. It saves on prunning I guess ...


But you should have pruned it back in the autumn. There's a big corkscrew hazel growing in my brother's garden, it was as big as a van, so he has pruned it to a nicer size. He cut off some very long branches and some twigs back in November, my boss got them all, she uses them for her Christmas decorations. And now it looks much more nice and healthy.


Oh, but I do prune it in the autumn. Quite severly last autumn since you couldn't walk under it without it pretending it was a weeping willow. But then mine is the size of a house, much bigger than a van, and I can't get to the higher parts to prune more. 10 years ago I tried to anchor it to the fence to stop it being like the leaning tower of Pissa. Now it would take any fence any direction with it.

So, you like prunes in the autumn, eh? Find you can't walk afterwards and feel like a weeping willow, eh? Prunes the size of a house, eh?

I certainly don't go for prunes on my Pissa but a weeping willow would just about hit the spot.
846) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 20233)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I hope everyone had a happy St George's Day.

Here are my St George's Day signature pictures, maybe for use again next year;












847) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 20205)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A squirrel looks at a dragon set up by English Heritage in St James's Park, London, to celebrate St George's Day

848) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20202)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Very interesting -- most of the specs for various 48xx cards indicate the need for a 450W or greater PS. The thing is, I'm running 95W and 125W CPU's (AMD 9600/9850/A940) and wondering if that changes the numbers a bit.

The first ATI card I put to work, a Sapphire HD4850, and therefore the longest I have had crunching on MW, is in a PC with PSU output of 250W, max surge (10 sec) 270W.

The highest PSU output I have for a ATI HD4850/70 crunching MW is in a PC with PSU output of 330W.
849) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 20190)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Rømmegraut must have been one of the strangest sounding food I have eaten.

Now that does look strange, Google Translate tells me:

"Graut is created by a kokar sour cream and / or sour whistle on low heat.Different cereal can be mixed in, such as halibut, buildings, semolina - or risgryn."

I'm sure AriZona Moon can tell you what it is. If not, I'll dig out a recipe.
850) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20189)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Or maybe England's Red Rose in a blue dress




Ohhhh, I've just bought a box with the two dvd's, The Complete Elizabeth Collection, with Cate Blanchet as Elizabeth the 1'st. She was robbed, yes robbed, for that Oscar Gwyneth Paltrow got instead, she was much better as Elizabeth than Gwyneth was in that stupid Shakespeare in Love movie.

I've just watched both movies, I've seen them some times now, they are very good movies.

The Tudors will always be missed.
851) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20188)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's spring here. I love the spring when the trees start to become light green of new leaves.



I'm just so happy that they have stopped dropping leaves all over the garden. But the corkscrew hazel is still dropping twigs everywhere. It saves on prunning I guess ...


But you should have pruned it back in the autumn. There's a big corkscrew hazel growing in my brother's garden, it was as big as a van, so he has pruned it to a nicer size. He cut off some very long branches and some twigs back in November, my boss got them all, she uses them for her Christmas decorations. And now it looks much more nice and healthy.


Oh, but I do prune it in the autumn. Quite severly last autumn since you couldn't walk under it without it pretending it was a weeping willow. But then mine is the size of a house, much bigger than a van, and I can't get to the higher parts to prune more. 10 years ago I tried to anchor it to the fence to stop it being like the leaning tower of Pissa. Now it would take any fence any direction with it.
852) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 20185)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Rømmegraut must have been one of the strangest sounding food I have eaten.


853) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20162)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If these cards run ok on 300 watt PS why do manufacturers recommend 350W or even 450 on some of them?


look at the nVidia website, i'm sure they'rerecomending a 650w for s system that runs a 4890

I've been poised to go out and buy bigger PSUs if my ATIs didn't work, but so far they have been running OK.
854) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 20149)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Mike Grundy, director of United Flags and Flagstaffs based in Middleton, Manchester, holds up a St George's flag to mark England's Patron Saint's Day.
855) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 20148)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Does that taste like pork? Beaver is very greasy.
Good Morning Ice!

Morning Bruce. It was a while ago and I really can't remember, although an even stranger food I tried was caviar at 35,000 feet on Concorde. The caviar was horrible and Concorde cramped, but I think I'd like to try wild boar again so I can tell you ;)
856) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20145)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
hello all,
i am power supply only 450w, and running GPU "milky" and 100/100 CPU in other project,
and no problem for power :)
regards,
laurent

Hi laurant & BarryAZ. I have ATI HD4870 and HD4850s all running in boxes with a power supply of no more than 330w. All these also crunch CPDN with CPU. They were all going full pelt when I was up to a RAC of 150,000+ not so long ago and I haven't experienced any PSU problems with them (yet).

What sort of ATI GPU's are you running? I'm guessing older lower power cards (Radeon x550 and the like).

As for 450W - all my ATI's are happy with around 300W - so far...
857) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 20141)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

wild boar
858) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20137)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Cosmo has gone off the deep end regarding credit. They decided to give free full credit to all those units that errored out on DL because of a bad app (no crunching involved). Yet the rest of us who still had the good app are granted less credit than we claimed.

AliceInWolderland@home... Admin's conundrum: do you drink the potion or eat the cake?

Actually, I prefer Matrix@Home... Red or Blue?

Watch and decide.

I'd rather go for soylent green.


I'll still take the woman in the red dress...

Or maybe England's Red Rose in a blue dress


859) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 20136)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

860) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 20131)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
St George's Day

Who was St George, and why is celebrating him so contentious?


St George, as seen in pub signs
861) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20130)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

My point was, and is, that there was a lot of negativitiy from people who have GPUs. Those of us not fortunate enough to have such hardware are being deemed as "second class citizens". There is a ton of greed that is going on from the GPU side. If the project itself is happy with the rate of progress, then I suggest to the "GPU guys" that they simply deal... It's either that or they lobby the project PRIVATELY to eliminate CPU participation.

Is that how you see it? How sad.
862) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20117)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's spring here. I love the spring when the trees start to become light green of new leaves.



I'm just so happy that they have stopped dropping leaves all over the garden. But the corkscrew hazel is still dropping twigs everywhere. It saves on prunning I guess ...
863) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20116)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I hear you, it seems thaat some folks feel that GPU's (and with Milkyway still, that is specifically 38xx and 48xx GPU's) is the ONLY way to go.

It's a bit dangerous to ONLY go with a GPU project that doesn't exist (MW optimized GPU doesn't work - no WUs; MW-GPU doesn't exist yet). It's all very well someone at a university thinking that it would be cool to have a new project using ATI and nVidias, get some labstaff and "hey presto", but another thing turning it into reality.

As for 450W - all my ATI's are happy with around 300W - so far...
864) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 20099)
Posted 23 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You forget one thing: the GPUs could do the new and the old searches more efficiently than CPUs.

You missed the flip side of the coin, capacity.

It would be tempting to run MW CPU whilst running MW GPU - if optimised MW CPU brings better credit returns than other projects. However, it might be better to contribute to other projects with the 'spare' CPU capacity and get some of the other stats moving.
865) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20092)
Posted 22 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Cosmo has gone off the deep end regarding credit. They decided to give free full credit to all those units that errored out on DL because of a bad app (no crunching involved). Yet the rest of us who still had the good app are granted less credit than we claimed.

AliceInWolderland@home... Admin's conundrum: do you drink the potion or eat the cake?

Actually, I prefer Matrix@Home... Red or Blue?

Watch and decide.

I'd rather go for soylent green.
866) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 20065)
Posted 22 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sorry friends--at the advice of an attorney, I asked that my post and the other post be hidden referring to specific information from the interview. It has been done. However I'll keep people updated.

I'd hide and keep low in a situation like yours, but I'm worried about creasing this suit.
867) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19990)
Posted 22 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Perhaps my suits won't be so baggy any more. I think I can compromise with a certain suit even if I still think it's still a little loose. One should have a cut if one pays for it.
868) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 19962)
Posted 22 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:




869) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19955)
Posted 22 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Cosmo has gone off the deep end regarding credit. They decided to give free full credit to all those units that errored out on DL because of a bad app (no crunching involved). Yet the rest of us who still had the good app are granted less credit than we claimed.

I'm happy about that. I hadn't touched Cosmo in many months and decided to crunch some when it went down, and now I have all those lovely credits :p

AliceInWolderland@home... Admin's conundrum: do you drink the potion or eat the cake?

I say; give them cake.
870) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 19903)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

8 million
871) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 19889)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Don't forget ...



872) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 19888)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:






873) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 19882)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yay, 1.000.000 - all on cpu :-)


Welcome to the millionaires club RoyceMcKnight ;)
874) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19870)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And speaking of BSG the Caprica pilot was pretty good.

Landings are always good, even if the the reverse thrust scares the willies out of me. How can any pilot be good if he can't keep the plane from shaking so. But what really scares me is how I'm going to cope in that baggy suit with all those messages.
875) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19822)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I'm getting worried that the suit will look baggy and the boots far too clumpy in the glare of all that media. Elegant to some I'm sure, but at least I hope it will look cool.
876) Message boards : Number crunching : never getting more than one task (Message 19806)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi. My systems seem to never get more than one new task at a time from wu requests. (the "Sent" columns in the hosts' task pages have only unequal times)

I think this problem started suddenly a few days ago, and without any changes done by myself.

All those machines are using 0.19e with RV770 gpus. I have tried BOINC client versions 6.4.5, 6.6.20, and 6.6.23. Also been fiddling with the work request lenghts from computing preferences, but nothing seems to help.

Doesn't seem like other users are suffering from this. Any ideas what could be causing it?

The way things are now with a shortage of work, I think it is random. You turn up and ask for work; got get none, one, some, or a bucketful. It's all in the stars really.
877) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19804)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Feel MUCH better after some sleep...possible radio interview today so the media blitz continues

I just want to avoid all three. The nightmares, the reminders about all those about to be affected, and those that have no idea that the story they are telling will develop into more than a blitz.
878) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19800)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Post away.


FRAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure Dick Frak will get to you as soon as he can ;)

In the meantime my mission continues. I only hope the suit will fit.
879) Message boards : Number crunching : Catalyst 9.4 question (Message 19773)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If an ATI HD48*0 is being used just for crunching MW, does the version of Catalyst driver make any difference to RAC ?

Is there any benefit, for example, of ungrading from 8.12 to 9.4 to generate a faster turnover of WUs ?
880) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The V Club (Message 19765)
Posted 21 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yay...my interview went well but the stress of it encouraged the return of my sinus infection.....

Or perhaps the interviewer had a cold. I know I have one. Could be from the rollercoaster weather ride of 30 degree shifts every few days.

Only on a Wednesday could a 30 degree shift, usually in an orange haze. The coasts would always roll then, but would they clear?
881) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19686)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The moon? It doesn't exist.

It does so. It must. I have a picture of it on my desktop! That can't be fabricated. :-)

Neither can tides ;)
882) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19677)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm having a little bit of an identity crisis and need to know whether I am 'us' or 'them', and who knows which is which and who is who.

Do you feel like you belong with US or THEM??


There is no THEM, just US.

We are ALL doing valuable science.

Well put!
883) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19676)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How long was the Earth considered flat and / or the center of the universe?

It isn't?

Heretic!!

Never mind about that. Let's keep focused on those pin holes in the night sky we call the Milky Way.

After we established whether they turn around us or the moon. :-)

The moon? It doesn't exist. A fabricated idea by Hollywood for their best seller "One small step for Man on the Moon". Didn't you know? ;)
884) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What is the Strangest Food You Have Eaten? (Message 19669)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Why wife's cooking. Ha ha.


885) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19665)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How long was the Earth considered flat and / or the center of the universe?

It isn't?

Heretic!!

Never mind about that. Let's keep focused on those pin holes in the night sky we call the Milky Way.
886) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19643)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Number of white papers published...hundreds

Where's that project? I want to crunch for that. Does it use ATI or nVidia?
887) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 19639)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:







888) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 19631)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi ppl,

so waz up around..hope everything and everyone is ok ,coz i've been for long time away..


im watchin' right now crank2 : high voltage... this movie is bad ass ..really cool!!

have fun all and wish you have a nice evenin' !

Hi petros, nice to see you again ;)
889) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19630)
Posted 20 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It is time the "GPU guys" accept that...

What are "GPU guys" then?

Are they those with computers that all have one or more GPUs in them? Or those that have at least one GPU, but also computers that do not have GPUs, with CPUs that crunch MW or not? Or those that will only cruch with a GPU as opposed to those that will also crunch with CPUs ?

I'm having a little bit of an identity crisis and need to know whether I am 'us' or 'them', and who knows which is which and who is who.

"And after all were only ordinary men."



.
890) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 19578)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:







891) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : What are we doing and for whom? (Message 19549)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We've updated the main page of the project, so now you have information on our publications and related grants.

I read this in your publications with interest;

...the 1024 processor partition of the BlueGene
(IBM BlueGene/L supercomputer) provides a similar number
of fitness evaluations per second as the approximately
1,000 user BOINC community, access to the BlueGene is
limited and shared with other researchers. Alternatively,
the BOINC project is dedicated to the astronomy project
and operates at a fraction of the cost. Because of these
factors, we argue that asynchronous genetic search on volunteer
computing platforms is a valuable asset to scientific
researchers doing computationally intensive scientific modeling
and it is comparable with synchronous genetic search
on supercomputing environments.



And that article was written/published in July 2008. Imagine how many BlueGene's we're up to now!!!


Good point. I wonder how many thousands of active MW crunchers there are now.
892) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 19535)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Good morning fellow Milkyway crunchers!!!

Nice of you to say so Bruce. I've just planted out all my veg and my back's killing me now. That'll do for my excuse to loaf about doing nothing much for the rest of the day ;)
893) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19514)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Dang GPU folders taking all the WU's..the people behind the scenes shouldn't be allowing GPU folders to jam the servers like is happening..


LOL.. chill, mate!

Something to consider: a 4870 at 30s/WU and ~100W needs 3kJ to crunch a WU. My Phenom 9850 with optimized app needs about 20mins/WU. At ~100W that's 120kJ, fourty times as much energy. Do you still think it's a good idea to run Mw on CPUs?

MrS

That's an interesting calculation ExtraTerrestrial Apes. I made my own calculation when ATIs were first able to crunch on MilkyWay. It went something like this; "If I get an ATI card and put it in one computer, I could turn all my other computers off and save a stack on electricity, and get more credits than all those computers were getting in total."

I saved so much I was able to go on a cruise :P
894) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19501)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Don't you just hate it when you put an notice in the Recruitment Thread, and then someone from another team almost immeditely posts above your notice and buries it, with more than one post sometimes (is that spamming?).
Ho hum, some just have no concept of fair play. End of rant.
895) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 19500)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just dropped by to watch the beaver video.

I saw it! Parental discretion advised ;)
896) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 19499)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Join Team England or we go and spam the Angry thread



897) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19498)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Is anybody here getting ANY work? I haven't been able to get a single WU since early last night..

Dang GPU folders taking all the WU's..the people behind the scenes shouldn't be allowing GPU folders to jam the servers like is happening..

Are GPU folders that are crunching this data even suppose to be? I thought these WU's were for CPU folders?


I thought the project was here for the science. However the work is done, what matters is that it is done.

You are quite right Debs. Volunteer computing platforms is a valuable asset to scientific researchers. We're better than an IBM BlueGene/L supercomputer ;)
898) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : What are we doing and for whom? (Message 19497)
Posted 19 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We've updated the main page of the project, so now you have information on our publications and related grants.

I read this in your publications with interest;

...the 1024 processor partition of the BlueGene
(IBM BlueGene/L supercomputer) provides a similar number
of fitness evaluations per second as the approximately
1,000 user BOINC community, access to the BlueGene is
limited and shared with other researchers. Alternatively,
the BOINC project is dedicated to the astronomy project
and operates at a fraction of the cost. Because of these
factors, we argue that asynchronous genetic search on volunteer
computing platforms is a valuable asset to scientific
researchers doing computationally intensive scientific modeling
and it is comparable with synchronous genetic search
on supercomputing environments.

899) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19454)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fosters, eh?
I'm from Canberra.

The amber nectar has been my favorite for some time. They even sold pint cans of Fosters on my ship in the Caribbean.

As much as you pay for a cruise all food and beverages should be free.

Food yes, drinks I wish. It was flaming unfair I tell you!
900) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19452)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fosters, eh?
I'm from Canberra.

The amber nectar has been my favorite for some time. They even sold pint cans of Fosters on my ship in the Caribbean.
901) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19407)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh it's so obvious. The cat wants you to let go of the mouse and can't understand why you have to clutch it all the time. Let go!


902) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19398)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Trying to check the forums etc while I have my morning tea and I have this madam desperately trying to tell me something. She has her claw suck gently into my arm just enough to get my attention and is purring very determinedly.

Stage II is to sit on the desk in front of the screen, usually.

No, I don't think so. That's stage III. Stage II is to constantly walk in front of the screen so that you have to bob your head up and down to see the screen and keyboard. They love doing that.

That's my spy in the upper left asking for a hand out. Please feed him.

Oh it's so obvious. The cat wants you to let go of the mouse and can't understand why you have to clutch it all the time. Let go!
903) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19396)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
haha yes, that's exactly what i meant. good job folks.

Oh. I just opened a can of Fosters and got on with getting peased.

It comes with peas?

Yea, mushy pease. I just need the fish and chips and I'll have appease supper ;P
904) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19388)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
VENT although not about milky.

I'm angry with what my disability is throwing at me. It never stops.

End of rant.



Lisa-been there done that...aging is not fun especially when you add a pre-existing physical issue on top of it. My phantom pains from my amputated legs have returned en force as of late--out of nowhere and its extremely difficult to tolerate.

Sorry to hear about this both Lisa and Blurf.

905) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19383)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
haha yes, that's exactly what i meant. good job folks.

Oh. I just opened a can of Fosters and got on with getting peased.
906) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19352)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Trying to check the forums etc while I have my morning tea and I have this madam desperately trying to tell me something. She has her claw suck gently into my arm just enough to get my attention and is purring very determinedly.



Stage II is to sit on the desk in front of the screen, usually.

No, I don't think so. That's stage III. Stage II is to constantly walk in front of the screen so that you have to bob your head up and down to see the screen and keyboard. They love doing that.
907) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19350)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I meant that I accepted the friend request from Ice but not from Misfit, sorry for any confusion. Both those requests appeared in my gpu account.
Now, many hours later, the requests are still there which indicates that not all bugs are out of the gpu site yet. I have since checked my MW account and found friend requests from ice and dreamer. I answered yes to ice and no to dreamer. The latter was a 'hand quicker than brain' problem as I've since confirmed that dreamer too is on team Sicituradastra and it would be silly not to be friends. I've pm'd an apology and my own request for friendship.

OK verstapp, I hoped this is what you meant, and I thank you for accepting my friend request.
908) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19340)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
in Message ID 19325:

The trolls have started early.
I too got a friend request from Misfit - No!
Also one from Ice - yes!

This post is well out of order.

I looks very much like verstapp is saying that Misfit is not a troll, but "yes!" Ice is.

Whatever the meaning he intended, accusations of "trolls" should be relegated with flaming to permanent bans.


I read that post as a flame as well, although I read it as saying that he accepted your friend request and not misfit's.

He hasen't accepted my request here, neither has he accepted it on the new forum - another reason for me to question what his meaning is supposed to be. What the post by verstapp implies, written in the way he has written it, is what it implies to whoever reads it. Either way the post is still out of order.

I have not sent any friend requests to anyone I didn't think would accept or be offended by it. If anyone has received an unwelcomed request from me, here or the new forum, perhaps you'll let Dave know and he can put any impressions right.
909) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 19334)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
in Message ID 19325:

The trolls have started early.
I too got a friend request from Misfit - No!
Also one from Ice - yes!

This post is well out of order.

I looks very much like verstapp is saying that Misfit is not a troll, but "yes!" Ice is.

Whatever the meaning he intended, accusations of "trolls" should be relegated with flaming to permanent bans.
910) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19317)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
1 allready stolen by ICE ;)

Yea! eat my dust ... ;P
911) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help installing optimized app (Message 19305)
Posted 18 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Holy .. I just did it anyway ..deleted what was inside of the milkyway folder and paste those 2 files into the milkyway folder...

There's no need to delete the contents of the folder - just pasting in the .exe and .xml files should be OK.

Great to see you are now optimized ;)
912) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 19247)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have this temporary resource in place;

http://3rd.in/zslip

<snip>

I'll leave a copy of zslip on my Indian site for a while, just in case the sky falls in again ;)

The above link is now a redirect to zslip.com. I have started to update zslip pending the the arrival of 'home for GPUs', although who knows what will be needed outside of the MilkyWay forums.

*ahem* zslip is so difficult to remember... ;)

I expect some would remember creditsathome.com much more easily :)
913) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19241)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I know it is early days but the new project allowed me add a computer to my account but then does not display that computer when I go into my account, says I don't have any.

The User of the Day, KWSN imcrazynow, has a post, but I can't see a message board. I expect it's too early to start a "Milkyway@Home_for_GPU got 0 new tasks" thread ;)

914) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 19234)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've started to add some photos from my recent cruise in the Caribbean to my photo site.

Please click on the cruise ship in my sig or click here if you want to take a look.

915) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 19232)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have this temporary resource in place;

http://3rd.in/zslip

<snip>

I'll leave a copy of zslip on my Indian site for a while, just in case the sky falls in again ;)

The above link is now a redirect to zslip.com. I have started to update zslip pending the the arrival of 'home for GPUs', although who knows what will be needed outside of the MilkyWay forums.
916) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19203)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just had a look at top participants. I think I shoud be higer than 129th!
How dare you, Dave, be ahead of me when you've crunched 0 cobblestones!
:):)

In the end, there can be only one - the last one will receive all the credits of all the crunchers who ever cobbled stones ...
917) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19167)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ha! Got ID #99 here and got ID #99 there (MW_GPU)! Just registred 10 min. ago... Hope it'll stick.


Do you get a Flake with that?

A double Flake I hope ;)
918) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19165)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Still haven't switched on the up/download server. :(
We should be patient...

You can check out the GPU server status here;

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway_gpu/server_status.php
919) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19163)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ha! Got ID #99 here and got ID #99 there (MW_GPU)! Just registred 10 min. ago... Hope it'll stick.

That's pretty cool, I must say. I sure hope you can keep the 99s ;)
920) Message boards : Number crunching : BBG (Message 19162)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Should be handy for those who want an el-cheapo rack.
BBG url

I'd be up for one of those, but for the cats walking all over it, but how do you provide cooling? I always thought you needed a case to provide adequate air flow/cooling.
921) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19152)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Congrats ICE on No 1

He was hammering create_account_form like a piratebay tracker.

LoL naah just random luck :) I just clicked on my bookmark when I after tea break at work to see what was up and signed up then. I got #2 :)

You have a tea break and get #2. I have a tea protest and get shafted.

Can I have account number 1 billion?

Random luck? Maybe ;) Or was it skill, cunning and speed? Dave did say he would finish "either tonight or tomorrow" so it was a question of who could get there first really :P

No, you're right borandi. I'm just randomly lucky. Or just poised to be :)

If it sticks this time - Ice is #1 - Yea! :)

I billion GPU users - that's going to be interesting Misfit.

Congrats on your #2 borandi !

and on your #56 boosted ;)
922) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 19150)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just want to say thanks ICE for all you do. I know I mentioned your name earlier in this subject but as I said before you do have alot of very good input and help to the project. I hope you can understand why I posted what I did.
Randy
Ni!

Thanks Randy, no problem ;) Ni!
923) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU/CUDA Milkyway (Message 19111)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm lazy/cheap, plus I already have so many cables laying around, so I use TightVNC. It definitely saves on cables - headless PCs only need power lead and network lead.

Unless they need a keyboard and mouse to reboot - that can be a bind. I also use VNC and run everthing from a wireless laptop. Very handy.
924) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19091)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think I need to rethink my strategy a little here ;)

Letting me win would be your best strategy. HA! Beat that.

Of course I'll let you win. But how many years will it take you to catch up on my 7 and a half million? :p

Shall I do my calculations with my current nVidia card that apparently cannot do double precision?

Be precise and do it twice

but is that enough to beat Ice?
925) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU/CUDA Milkyway (Message 19064)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Maybe they have gone to Stanford and beging for help.
It seams to be the only guys who can make programs both
for ATI and NVIDIA.;)

That's OK by me since I have both ;)
926) Message boards : Number crunching : Deleted Accounts (Message 19026)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Dave

I find it difficult remembering my MW user ID.

I presume for the accidentally deleted account users crunch, if they crunch for other projects as well they could give you their cross project ID as another way for you to reach their original account to restore their credits? This is different to their strong account key, though.

If they crunch for another project they can get any of their acct IDs from the links in the Projects in which you are participating section in their acct information.

Just in case anyone finds this of use - my signature is made by boinc.mundayweb.com and it holds all the account numbers for all the projects I crunch in. That us where I could go if I wanted to know my account number in any project.

It's a nice sig to - the only sig I know that lets me include my SETI stats.
927) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19025)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think I need to rethink my strategy a little here ;)

Letting me win would be your best strategy. HA! Beat that.

Of course I'll let you win. But how many years will it take you to catch up on my 7 and a half million? :p
928) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19023)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I to am very disappointed, but happy that the situation is being resolved by Dave, Travis and Blurf.

Vote Blurf for forum mod!

Seconded
929) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19019)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I tried to pull a Nixon and erase the tapes. They got me. ;)

And there's me thinking this was the new GPU site and we were starting all over again.

I was just wondering how long it will take me to make up seven and a half million credits on MW again.

But then I have found two more PCI-E slots, so let's hope the new MWGPU site can keep up with me :P

Look at you. Some of us are happy with a little gold dust from Pirates. :P

Ok, it's Pirate talk then. "Belay that order me hearties!" I got my quarterly electricity bill today. My jaw dropped to the floor - I could not believe it. I could buy a better camera than I have now with what I've spent heating up my garage with those computers and ATI cards.

I think I need to rethink my strategy a little here ;)
930) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 19015)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I tried to pull a Nixon and erase the tapes. They got me. ;)

That was a short term ban....what happened?

Accusing me of being banned sounds like flamebait. Go figure that offer of peace wasn't genuine. I am very disappointed :(

Props to Dave P. for going out of his way to fix my acct very quickly. :)

I must admit it I thought it was very unkind to "accuse" of being banned so quickly after your account disappeared. I'm sure there are 50+ people horrified and worried that their accounts have disappeared, but then for someone to start making out they have been 'banned', and allowing such an idea to lie, when they have no way to post and refute such a thing .... that is totally unecessary and unwanted.

I to am very disappointed, but happy that the situation is being resolved by Dave, Travis and Blurf.
931) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 19001)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It must be difficult in a small project where theres only a couple of people to keep things running, sort out bugs and add new bits when they have real jobs to do at the same time.
And then answer a pile of PMs and read the myriad of "I cant get any work" posts.

Maybe even that restoring some deleted accounts accidently can't be done absolutely immediately if some research-related work has to take precedence just now.

I know of at least one accidentally deleted account that has been fixed, or restored from backup, and I should imagine others are following.


I'm working with Dave to identify the incorrectly deleted accounts and restore them.

Well done Blurf! Mine is the account with 56 million credits missing :P
932) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 19000)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It must be difficult in a small project where theres only a couple of people to keep things running, sort out bugs and add new bits when they have real jobs to do at the same time.
And then answer a pile of PMs and read the myriad of "I cant get any work" posts.


But is easy to delete the account of one who worked doing fixings and optimizing the project faults during one year...

Oh to be a forum administrator and be given a bit of leeway for making a mistake or two.
933) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 18997)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It must be difficult in a small project where theres only a couple of people to keep things running, sort out bugs and add new bits when they have real jobs to do at the same time.
And then answer a pile of PMs and read the myriad of "I cant get any work" posts.

Maybe even that restoring some deleted accounts accidently can't be done absolutely immediately if some research-related work has to take precedence just now.

I know of at least one accidentally deleted account that has been fixed, or restored from backup, and I should imagine others are following.
934) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 18992)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yeah...! I think Travis must to have a backup to restore it and do it right... or not...?

Sure Travis has a backup - Dave is doing a fantastic job.

Hahaha!!


There you go - he's keeping you happy!
935) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 18989)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yeah...! I think Travis must to have a backup to restore it and do it right... or not...?

Sure Travis has a backup - Dave is doing a fantastic job.

Nice to see you here again Logan ;)
936) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU/CUDA Milkyway (Message 18977)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I just talked to Travis and he said he was going to post what he had soon.

I hope he's going to post a few WUs for those waiting patiently for them ;)
937) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 18976)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
"got 0 new tasks"

hello laurent, I am sorry to say that is how it is for most of us on MilkyWay for much of the time right now. But the project is being re-organized and very soon there should be more work for everyone. There is a new MilkyWay GPU/CUDA project starting up any time (see the MW home page).

The work will come, keep standing by ;)
938) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 18958)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
hello dear,

i am running mlky via hd 4830,
but i am not many work ??? only 5 or 12 per days ? no more
is normaly??? or server is over ?

regards

laurent

There has not been much work recently, but we are expecting a higher availability of work any time now.
939) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18948)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I tried to pull a Nixon and erase the tapes. They got me. ;)

And there's me thinking this was the new GPU site and we were starting all over again.

I was just wondering how long it will take me to make up seven and a half million credits on MW again.

But then I have found two more PCI-E slots, so let's hope the new MWGPU site can keep up with me :P
940) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18942)
Posted 16 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I tried to pull a Nixon and erase the tapes. They got me. ;)

And there's me thinking this was the new GPU site and we were starting all over again.
941) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 18831)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Haha yes, its actually completely ready and I think Travis has the apps up. We're just working on getting the web server to redirect the page correctly.

AWESOME.

:)

-jim

I'm looking forward to the actual apps already :)
942) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 18823)
Posted 15 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

bowel
943) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 18746)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Let's see, a RAC of 10, what would that be, 1 Wu on a GPU ... hahaha ... :)

Sorry, but a WU on a GPU is like gold dust - worth far more :P
944) Message boards : Number crunching : Is milkyway@home dead? (Message 18745)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What I havn't been able to figure out on my Core2's is how to get two CPDN tasks crunching when MW work is absent. (I manage to get 2 CPDN crunching, but sometimes it stops the MW work when there is some.)

If you're using BOINC v5.10x you can run BOINC Studio and set an individual priority for each project.

Ah, now there's a thing. I always assumed I should be running the latest versions of BOINC to get the best out of it with the ATI cards. Currently it's at 6.6.20

I wonder if going to 5.10x is OK with the ATI cards, or is this best just for CPU crunching?
945) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Just my luck (Message 18738)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Got anything lucky, or not so lucky to tell us about?

I got two letters from the the National Savings people today, that offer prizes up to a £million every month, both with cheques in them. I had hoped for a million or two, but both were for the lowest possible amount :(

But heck, £50 will buy a few beers :)

My luck only gets me phishing spam saying I won a lottery I never entered.

I got one of those once. Said I had won $67,000,000

Can you top that?
946) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Just my luck (Message 18736)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Got anything lucky, or not so lucky to tell us about?

I got two letters from the the National Savings people today, that offer prizes up to a £million every month, both with cheques in them. I had hoped for a million or two, but both were for the lowest possible amount :(

But heck, £50 will buy a few beers :)
947) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 18733)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In the past few weeks, the flaming on the boards has been intense. I will ask you all to please cease fighting with eachother. Anyone who I see flaming in the future will get a permanent ban from the boards. Also, if you are reporting someone who isn't flaming in spite, you will also get a ban. Thank you for you cooperation.

Yay! A recommendation if I may. Permabans for those caught creating/using fake accounts to anonymously flame with.

Seconded
948) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 18731)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
949) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 18729)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Almost missed I had hit the 8 million mark....

Congrats to all milestoners...

Goodness gracious! I almost missed I hit the 7 and a half million mark.

Well done Spankinmonkee and all milestoners who stay awake!
950) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18722)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

And British.

The British always scare me.

Only the ones carrying pokers.
951) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 18711)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

crisps (I'm eating Salt & Vinegar right now)
952) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 18704)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Breakfast (in America)
953) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link 2 (Message 18702)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

dreamer
954) Message boards : Number crunching : Flaming (Message 18701)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A blistering shape spreads from the rising flames.
...
The Phoenix has risen again,
Her flames rekindled with life.
To fly over a world of deceit and destruction,
To be a symbol of hope for all

From "The Rising Flames" by Elizabeth Davidson (edited, full version)
955) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 18699)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Click the pic to join the best team in England, the UK and the World




956) Message boards : Number crunching : Is milkyway@home dead? (Message 18695)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My GPUGrid nehalem/nvidias share with CPDN, so even without GPUGrid work they're not exactly bored, even if the GPUs are currently idled.

verstapp, almost all my PCs/laptops that are crunching MilkyWay have a CPDN task constantly on the go. One, because MilkyWay allows you to crunch with the CPU, and secondly because there is something crunching (CPDN) when there is no MW work available.

What I havn't been able to figure out on my Core2's is how to get two CPDN tasks crunching when MW work is absent. (I manage to get 2 CPDN crunching, but sometimes it stops the MW work when there is some.)
957) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18681)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

And British.

The British always scare me.
958) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18676)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am setting up a new domain for zslip.com which should come on line within the next 24 to 48 hours.

I will not be setting up a "UK mirror" since others are setting up alternate download resources and I have no wish to duplicate my efforts unecessarilly. It will just be zslip.com and no other site.

In the mean time I have this temporary resource in place;

http://3rd.in/zslip


Great job, thanks. It's great to see the resource back up so quickly on a holiday weekend, when others are still either talking about it or being critical of the fact you are just as able to make mistakes or have problems as the rest of us :)

Thanks again :)

Thanks Debs. I'll leave a copy of zslip on my Indian site for a while, just in case the sky falls in again ;)
959) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18675)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Okay, I have mine up now as well.

I borrowed a bit from Ice on the design since a table is the best for all the different apps.

http://www.arkayn.us/milkyway/index.html

Borrow away if it helps the forum out. Let's face it, the more help we give each other the better.

I also included the OSX app that jedirock made.

I don't know about this, don't understand it at all, so I'll leave this for you to host arkayn ;)
960) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18674)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'd forgotten about that. Thank you very much Misfit for that additional link - 10/10 for the site name. (Godaddy is great - I get free hosting ;)

Of course creditsathome.com is easier to remember. :P (Provided someone stops having GoDaddy fantasies.)


961) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18673)
Posted 14 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thank you Ice and keep up the good work:)

For you Berserk_Tux no problem ;)
962) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18581)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
http://zslip.com/ seems to be up and running.

It's hosted in it's own right for the first time, not forwarded to another domain as previously. Less chance for me to mix it up with another domain when I'm doing a rushed update at a holiday weekend.
963) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 18577)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hitting 150k today :)

Well done Blurf. You're optimistic about getting more work ;)
964) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18528)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... maybe ICE taking the site down for a while is doing a favour to anyone who might have downloaded it now and find it not working in a few days (whether that was part of the intent or not...)? Sometimes newbies don't check all posts to see what status the project has...

If this post upset anyone, then I am sorry that you are so sensitive :)

Thanks Debs, that might have been a good reason. The truth is that I got careless with over 50 domains now, and goodness knows how many PCs doing what with which. Careless because I managed to upload the wrong files to the wrong host and screwed up the www zslip files.

Unlucky because it was Easter and I had to go to Richmond, London to see Noël Coward's "Brief Encounter", so couldn't get to it straight away to fix. After clearing out both mirrors and re-uploading the file forwarding just wouldn't work for both sites.

I have now set up a dedicated host for zslip.com, which has now gone live, but will take a little while before the WWW is updated to know about it.

I will sow a few seeds today in my greenhouse before I populate zslip.com with code, and it'll be ready soon enough.
965) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18526)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@ICE

Just in the event no one has said thank you also... Thank YOU. For the web connection. Like you, I too have many web sites that are mine. And if I too wanted to take it off line for a while then the rest will just have to wait.

BTW Show me the pictures I am Jealous that you got to go on VAC....

DD,

Thanks Dan! You have PM ;)
966) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18523)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, thank you Ice for hosting the apps.

I am also wandering why milkyway is not hosting these gpu apps?
It's like BOINC have a resistance against AMD\ATI but they should
know that resistance is futile ;)

:) Thanks for the thanks Simplex. I must be a Borg - I got an ATI card (3 actually) as soon as I realzed they could make mega credits ;)
967) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18522)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, I can provide you with north-european mirror if you like. Meaning you can have several links on zslip.com

Thnks for the offer pjsalmin. However using two sites means double the code maintenance and administration of upload files on each site. If someone else is offering to put it on their server, as they have done today, then that saves me a lot of work. I will just be maintaining the one zslip.com site from now on.
968) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18521)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Please note a 'thank you' from me as well, Ice. Many of us could host the apps for public download, for free, as a favour to all, but you actually did it.

Thanks Brickhead. But it wasn't just about hosting the apps where people could more easily find them. It was also about getting Travis/Dave to acknowledge that they could be used (at least not saying they produced "bad results" and could not be used) so people could feel more relaxed about using them. I always made sure the authors posted a link to their apps here in MilkyWay first and said it was OK to use them before putting them, or any updates, on zslip.

That is why there is little in the way of instructions/narrative on zslip - instead links to here in MilkyWay, so it is all up to what is said in MilkyWay and not on my site.
969) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18520)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks Ice, your Efforts are Appreciated by at least some of us Milkyway Participants.

Thanks PoorBoy. Someone was asking me about my avatar recently and I was telling them that it is graffiti photographed on a wall in Chile. The artist titled it "Poor Boy" ;)
970) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18514)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am setting up a new domain for zslip.com which should come on line within the next 24 to 48 hours.

I will not be setting up a "UK mirror" since others are setting up alternate download resources and I have no wish to duplicate my efforts unecessarilly. It will just be zslip.com and no other site.

In the mean time I have this temporary resource in place;

http://3rd.in/zslip
971) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18512)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Easter still looks fine. Not sure what this has to do with raising hell, but I'm hoping to buy flower seeds today. My greenhouse is still half empty. Web sites with downloads that I don't need can wait a while. I'll be doing that for other people's benefits, not my own, later I hope.
972) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18510)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I too believe the service Ice has provided with his site for organising all the different apps has been most beneficial. I just hope he continues on with it.

Please excuse me if I'm not optimistic though. He has done this sort of thing before. Time will tell and I will gladly alter my attitude if he does continue on with it, but I'm not holding my breath.

Done this sort of thing before? Drivel, drivel drivel from a snotty The Gas Giant control freak who advocated scripts that brought down the servers, despite being warned the scripts would do so.

Thanks a bunch from me and possibly everyone who can't get work now.
973) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18508)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Now if I can get all the apps, I can host them on my server.

A bit of redundancy is not a bad idea. Why not have them hosted in more than once place?

Funny that I thought of that right at the start, and an educated teached has only just thought of it now.
974) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18507)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I can't get my zslip site to work. For those who have taken the opportunity to lay some crap on me and accusing me of purposly screwing up my site for crap reasons they have given given - sod you. I do not have to operate my sites in 'your' way with links in my signature according to 'your' requirements. I will take down my sites for maintenance when I feel necessary and change my signature links when I wish - not when some control freaks here wish it, nor will I ask your permission first.

For those who have offered support I thank you - I have this in place for you as a temporary measure until I can find out why zslip currently does nothing but offer godaddy adverts.

http://3rd.in/zslip
975) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18506)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
bump


John Clark wrote:
˙sǝɯıʇ llɐ ʇɐ lǝʌıɹp ƃuıʞlɐʇ sı puɐ 'ɔıdoʇ uo ɹǝʌǝu sı ǝɥ ˙dɐɹɔ 'dɐɹɔ 'dɐɹɔ sǝʇıɹʍ ʎluo ʎnƃ sıɥʇ

976) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18504)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
bump

Why are fat gas bags and friends trying to ruin this thread, the one that has had the most hits in the history of MilkyWay? Why level such abuse at the author of this thread? Why does anyone have to do maintenance on a web site? Why do problems sometimes happen with a site which take it down for a while? Why have some only got one brain cell? For Christs sakes add your own download resources and keep them up to date and I'll be sure to call you a snotty runt if it goes down.

FFS Only said it had gone down and was showing an ad for non-slip floors.... :-O

I know what big fat gas with a big fat dummy in his gob says, and I know what he has said in posts hidden by moderators.

977) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18470)
Posted 13 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'd use the Ignore button if I had that trouble.

I'd use the Ignore button if I didn't have the policy of not using the Ignore button.

Actually, if someone was giving me trouble, I don't see why I should back down. I'd stand up to the trouble and let it try it's luck with me.
978) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18454)
Posted 12 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Why are fat gas bags and friends trying to ruin this thread, the one that has had the most hits in the history of MilkyWay? Why level such abuse at the author of this thread? Why does anyone have to do maintenance on a web site? Why do problems sometimes happen with a site which take it down for a while? Why have some only got one brain cell? For Christs sakes add your own download resources and keep them up to date and I'll be sure to call you a snotty runt if it goes down.

FFS Only said it had gone down and was showing an ad for non-slip floors.... :-O

I know what big fat gas with a big fat dummy in his gob says, and I know what he has said in posts hidden by moderators.
979) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 18271)
Posted 11 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Bump

Click any of out Team England banners to join the best team in England, the UK and the World






980) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18221)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My cats start chasing eachother around my bedroom at 5.30am. One likes to claw my curtains to death and she knows that wakes me up. One goes over my head on pillow non stop between windowsills. Then they sit at strategic points and moew from a whimper upto a megga meow until I get so fed up, there's no point in laying there.

Oh, the latest trick is to claw the corner of my mattress sheet; found millions of tiny holes in it last night. Honestly, these cats have it all worked out.

Don't you just love them though.

Always :) But stop licking me!
981) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 18171)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Click any of out Team England banners to join the best team in England, the UK and the World





982) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18151)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I sleep through alarm clocks. Annoying as hell.

I turn alarm clocks off in my sleep without waking.

My cat turns mine off :(

My cat walks on my wireless keyboard with 'extra button to switch off PC' and switches off my laptop.

Why do I need a wireless keyboard with a loptop? To provide an extra obstacle to stop my cats forever walking between me and my laptop when I'm trying to work.

But then those pesky cats can jump such obstacles easilly, so I get to see flying cats instead of my screen every now and then.

Except when they they go for that shut down button and I see two innocent cats staring at me.
983) Message boards : Number crunching : Run the project only a few hours a day (Message 18145)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In the spirit of international cooperation and good will to all, I will take up the challenge of not crunching on my GPU until further notice.

I shall ensure my RAC remains below 100 for a while.


Thank you guys. I'm sure my new HD4850 will help take up the slack :)

I forgot to say that the real reason I'm stopping GPU crunching for MW is that my 4850 died. I've now gone back to my pre-MW GPU days and have re-instated my 9600 for GPUGRID...and MW on my cpu.



Burned it up, huh?


It was probably the hot and cold caused by having work, then not having work, then having work again after it got cold. If only it had been kept hot the whole time........... ;-)

It just stopped at about 3am 2 mornings ago. You could be right there Brian as there was a cache full of wu's when it went.

What's very interesting is that since MW has been back on the CPU only I don't think it has run out of MW work yet.....

I expect the demoid pounding it gave to the server was just too much. I'd take care not to do the same with your CPU.
984) Message boards : Number crunching : Power consumption by GPUs (Message 18144)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am still trying to figure out the context of this thread...

The cost of running the GPU will be about equal or higher than the CPU as a general rule depending on the capabilities of the GPU ...

So the only way I can see relevance to this question is watts per Cobblestones and if that is the question then the GPU is going to be more efficient ...

But I thought the point was to do the science ...

Yes, but even science has to be done within a budget and an eye on "if I do it this way I could get more science done than spending my money that way".

I initilly decided to spend money on an ATI so that it would crunch the WUs of the PCs that I could then switch off, thus saving a heck of a lot of electricity bills. That is, one PC with ATI does the work of many PCs without ATI cards. Or, one PC with ATI is equivalent to a 'farm' but consuming far less electricity.

For this reason, yes, the science is being done at a lower (electricity bill) cost.

Cluster Physik is saving us money ;)
985) Message boards : Number crunching : The problem with servers (Message 18143)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Very well put together Phil. That is so funny.

I have to book an argument with Debs though, because I thought it was funnier than the orignal. A quickie should do it. I mean, a short argument should suffice :P



Ah, but a nice long drawn out argument will keep entertained for a lot longer. Are you sure you don't want to book one of them?

Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten!


How long for 14 pounds?


I can pound the server for much longer than that.

(Should we book another argument for who can pound the longest?)
986) Message boards : Number crunching : The problem with servers (Message 18108)
Posted 10 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Very well put together Phil. That is so funny.

I have to book an argument with Debs though, because I thought it was funnier than the orignal. A quickie should do it. I mean, a short argument should suffice :P

987) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Arrive ... raise Hell ... leave (Message 18068)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Some where to vent perhaps. No excuse to break any forum rules, but give it a raise if you have a feeling for it.


988) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18065)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If I read the GPU announcement correctly, it will require Gipsel (or another intrepid person) to create the new App for the ATI's as Milkyway are only creating the CUDA Version?

You are right and be assured, I will do my best.
I hoped Travis would have released the code for the GPU version as announced as I won't have time during Easter. So even if it is released today, it will have to wait until tuesday or so.

Cluster Physik, I'm glad you're doing this. I only hope that Travis can get the code out to you soonest.
989) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 18060)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
990) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 18049)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So I backed it off to 800 GPU & 925 Memory & when I restarted BOINC again all the rest of the WU's just gave a Computation Error. Heats not an issue as far as I can see as the Cards only getting up to about 52c when running the WU's & 35c @ Idle.

If heat was the issue it would more likely that the card simply stopped running, and even reset yor PC. Those computation errors are a symptom of a wrong driver - a software incompatibility between the card drivers and the opp app.

As for reducing down from the stock 850 GPU - I would have thought that there should be no need for that, but scope to increase up from 850 to clock it.

I'd be interested in getting a HD4890 myself to play with, but not a good idea just yet based on your experience and the lack of WUs to play with.
991) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 18027)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

But the 4890 is compatible for sure. The relative crunching speed should be the same as I speculated a month ago.

Has the HD4890 been tested as working? Has anyone got it working yet? Does it perform better than the HD4870 for MW crunching?

Has anyone found any MW WUs to test it on?


I did get the 4890 to work & run 2 WU's with Credit Granted with the newly released 9.4 Drivers from ATI/AMD, I posted about it in the zslip.com Thread.

Thanks for letting us know PoorBoy. Not only the first 2 WUs cruched on MW with a HD4890, but the most expensive at $125 each ?
992) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 18026)
Posted 9 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I got around to trying the new 9.4 Cat Drivers from ATI/AMD & did get the Diamond 4890 to run the WU's, well at least 2 of them anyway since that's all I had left to run & haven't received anymore since then on that Box.

At first they didn't work, so I checked for the required amd files like the Readme states & they weren't in the system32 Directory. So I copied & renamed the 3 ati files like the Readme states and then the last 2 WU's I had ran okay.

Now all I have to do is sell them on E-Bay and get some more NVIDIA Cards & go get some WU's over @ the GPUGrid Project since it's next to impossible to get any here unless your in the select group of participants that seem to have no problem getting all they want ... :)

Congratulations PoorBoy :) While you are waiting on your ebay bids (I already have my bid snipper poised ;P) please let us know if you manage a few more WUs on that HD4890. As for ebay, I would check out your local landfill since not too long ago I heard people were chucking out their nVidia cards to make room for ATIs.
993) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU units hanging (Message 17971)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
[IMG ]snip[ /IMG]

This is from today. You can see that the top unit as been running for 13 hours an none of the others have crunched anything. I have set it with n4 and w1.1 in the app_info.xml file.

Any hints welcome. Thanks to everyone again for taking the time to try and help us out.

Try suspending everything but MW, shut down BOINC, restart it again, pound the update for MW a couple of times, resume other projects.

If this doesn't work, send the WUs to me and I'll see if they can help my RAC any ;)
994) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 17936)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Though eBuyer have been known to have bad customer support if they screw up your order.

Ah yes, I had that knowledge. I got a HD4870 from them which required two internal power leads; with just the one they supplied it didn't work. It took them over 2 weeks to get the second to me. Thankfully I managed to get a lead from Maplins so was able to get crunching straight away.
995) Message boards : Number crunching : Run the project only a few hours a day (Message 17931)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

  • I am entitled to a fair days' credit for a fair days' work
  • I invested substantially in kit to advance science
  • I am entitled to see all my rigs are fully fed with work
  • Button-mashers, script-kiddies and credit-whores are trying to stop me and sabotage the project.




I don’t know Phil. I see BOINC as a 'hobby' and wouldn't spend more on it than I would on the odd computer game/other software now and then.

I also see BOINC as projects which ask you to do voluntary work, but I wouldn’t ask them to change their project just to suit how I crunch or how big/many WUs I want at any time.

The only entitlements that matter are that I am entitled to ask for work and the project is entitled to give it to me, or not.
996) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 17927)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Is there a consensus on what nVidia cards would run the client, and the best bang for buck (like the HD4850 for ATI and MW).

I would think the GTX260 has the best performance per $ or € with the new GTX275 coming in at a close second place.


Looking as the prices of the Asus GTX260 PCI-E2.0 512MB priced at £175 and the Asus ATI HD4870 512MB also priced at £185 they are similar. Both locally.

Is there an nVidia equivalent in performance and price to the Asus ATI HD4850, locally this is priced at £130? This latter ATI card looks like it is the golden price-performance point.

I don't know where you mean by 'locally', but in England at ebuyer.com you can get a ASUS ATI HD4850 for £109.99, and a ASUS ATI HD4870 for £154.38 or a XFX HD4870 for just £149.99, all prices include VAT tax. Even pcworld.co.uk will give you a Sapphire HD4850 for £122.23 including VAT tax.

[edit] I cross posted with borandi. ebuyer is OK, but there are sites where you can get even lower prices - shop around...
997) Message boards : Number crunching : Run the project only a few hours a day (Message 17902)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think we should REWIND all Wu's b4 returning them!

Recycling! Now there's an interesting proposition...
998) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 17899)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sorry guy's, I didn't notice this Thread or I would have Posted my Problem's with the 4890 here instead of where I did. The 9.4 Drivers aren't out yet as I just checked again. I left the 4890 Card in the Computer even though it wasn't doing anything but so I could try the new drivers as soon as I notice that they are out. If the new Drivers don't work I'll pull it then and put the 4870 back in.



Never mind, the thread you chose seemed, on the face of it, appropriate at the time, so I wouldn't feel out of sorts. Just be aware that Ice takes a poor view of anyone posting the obvious, to him, even when it is posted on the assumption it may have been missed and is directly connected to the question he asked earlier.

No John Clark, I just take a dim view of you posting your usual drivel which has nothing to do with anything that helps.
999) Message boards : Number crunching : Run the project only a few hours a day (Message 17898)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I propose a 4 day week. Or maybe a one day week. All those with problems can only ask for work on a Monday. Those with a problem can only ask for work on a Friday. No-one can work when work is unavailable, even if they have a slow machine with 10 days worth of cache. No work can be done at the week end, or when their ATI drivers don't work. Scripts to get work on a Wednesday will be outlawed, as well as scripts that thrash the MilkyWay server to death.
1000) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 17894)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Okay Ice, Whatever you say ... :)

Actually what I initially meant to say was that it 'seems' like MW give a good credit rate (because some people in this forum keep saying so), but that it is no good, whatever credit rate you're offering, if you can't give out the work.

However, the usual micro managing stops my machines from standing idle for so long wondering what to do. And no, in case anyone was wondering, I am not pushing in front of anyone to grab WUs that belong to them. I am simply turning up and asking for work, as everyone else is doing, and doing work that I can/wish, as eveybody else is doing.
1001) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 17892)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Seems like MilkyWay gives a good credit return


"Seems like" Your kidding, right ... ???


I wouldn't know really. Apart from the fact that I had a RAC of 5,000 not very long ago and one of 150,000 in the last 2 weeks. And my credit total jumped from 3 Million to 10 million since January.

And that's with running less computers, swapping out just 3 graphic cards.

I'd say it seems like MilkyWay gives a good credit return.
1002) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 17886)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

10 million for BOINC

1003) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 17885)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

But the 4890 is compatible for sure. The relative crunching speed should be the same as I speculated a month ago.

Has the HD4890 been tested as working? Has anyone got it working yet? Does it perform better than the HD4870 for MW crunching?

Has anyone found any MW WUs to test it on?



I am sure you have seen the discussion started by PoorBoy in this other thread, your one, Ice. He seems to be the first to try one of the new HD4890's, and is running in to a bit of difficulty getting the card to run MW.

Yes John Clark, I have seen the discussion in my own thread. Your stating the obvious remains unabated. In my post that you quote above Cluster Physik says 'in this thread' that that "the 4890 is compatible for sure", and my web site zslip.com reflected this until this morning, when I changed it to say it does not work with the HD4890. Poorboy has indicated that he can't get his to work, but I ask in this thread with "HD4890" in the title whether anyone has got this new card to work with the ATI optimized apps, so that I can keep my website zslip.com up to date.

So I ask again, not what poorboy is doing or whether I read my own threads, but "has anyone got the HD4890 working with the optimized apps?"
1004) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI 4750/4770/4890 support (Message 17881)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

But the 4890 is compatible for sure. The relative crunching speed should be the same as I speculated a month ago.

Has the HD4890 been tested as working? Has anyone got it working yet? Does it perform better than the HD4870 for MW crunching?

Has anyone found any MW WUs to test it on?
1005) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 17880)
Posted 8 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I have updated zslip.com to say that the HD4890 has not yet been confirmed as working for these optimized apps.

Not that the fact that the HD4850/70 are working amounts to much if more diners are arriving at a shrinking pizza and everyone is screaming at a waiter who gets harder of hearing by the minute.

Seems like MilkyWay gives a good credit return, which doesn't really amount to much if you can't get the Work Units, and results in machines standing idle while looking for pizza. Not good for BOINC, is it...
1006) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 17804)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been away the last two weeks.


Yes after 2 weeks defrosting on a tropical paradise your new handle is now "Melt"
Welcome back. You will find that the forum discussions (arguments) are hotter than the tropics


Thanks for melting welcome back. Fortunately the PCs I left on didn't melt since it seems they had hardly anything to do while I was away. Nothing new then :/
1007) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 17803)
Posted 7 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been away the last two weeks. Is there anything I need to update zslip with? Are you guys still using this site?

"I've been away" GEEZ! Tell us about big boats and paradise.

They were big. It was paradise.

Actually, the 'Vision of the Seas' isn't the biggest of paradise boats to cruise around the Caribbean, but it sure was paradise ;)
1008) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 17735)
Posted 6 Apr 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been away the last two weeks. Is there anything I need to update zslip with? Are you guys still using this site?
1009) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 17189)
Posted 31 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Steel drum band on my way to Antiga :)

Yea ...
1010) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The copy cat thread (Message 16387)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We're witnessing the precise moment when all the problems started

It was a near miss, but I saw it.
copy that




Start a thread with a slightly different title just to show how clever you are.

Start a post with slightly different wording just to show how clever you are.

;p

Start talking with slightly different inflections in your voice to show how clever you are.

1011) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 16386)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
okay, time to start our own punch up :p

Rum punch in the Caribbean, Nice :)
1012) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 16385)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

more surf

1013) Message boards : Number crunching : WU abuse (Message 16381)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sorry, i mixed things up with Pwrguru, he's reporting WUs every few seconds immediately when they're done which i a pain for the servers and completely senseless.
You're reporting a WU every 30 Minutes which is perfect

Anyway i don't understand your problem with deadlines, they're at 3 days you can do the max 6 WUs in 3 hours so it should be possible to do the 6 WUs and report them back. Not that i think that is needed but it should be possible.

kindly regards
If you read it right I am not reporting a work unit every second as you say.....It is completed work unit uploaded (no reporting), not asking for more work.....I realize that you may be new and all but that is how boinc works.....

P.s. I think that you are still confused who you are talking about.........

No, BOINC doesn't work like that. The times I posted of your contacts with the server were from wu's being reported. Much more often than anything my update script does.

Still trying to defend your update script? Tell that to the forum administrator, Dave, who just said that the server can't keep up with the ATI cards.

And before you start with your suggestive lies - I would NEVER use your update script or ANYTHING of yours. Not as if I could since you did't share this script. Sniff.
1014) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 16380)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ya just passed me in total BOINC rankings, ya bastiche. :)

-jim

:P Personal BOINC rankings don't mean a lot to me when they don't include my million plus SETI credits......

ROTFLMAO...

I'm glad I continue to entertain you The Gas Giant. Keep sniffing.

Where's my million plus SETI credits?


You got everything you deserved little fella.....

I still have my million plus SETI credits, thank for learing. They are in a seperate ICE account sitting there in Team England (Boinc) adding 1,128,074.61 value which is more that you do.

[edit] "little fella", Is that stalking bully boy tactics? Whatever it is, I object to it. Stop this demeaning bully talk. It's not funny. I don't like you. I don't want to be your friend. I don't want any 'truce' with you. I don't want anything with you The Gas Giant. So stop with this "little fella" crap and similiar. Do not use ANY type of endearment or personal 'affection' with me - GET IT?
1015) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 16378)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Misfit wrote:
**whoosh** right over your head.

Is that so?

So, tell me, how does it feel to be intellectually superior? Is it lonely up there on the pinnacle?

Lloyd, it's OK, I wanna be #1 credit whore on google. It's this bizarre sense of humour I have. Which gets more bizarre as I read some of the MW threads in the past few hours. Maybe Misfit also has a sense of humour, which is quite ROTMYFUNNYSHINBONE at times.
1016) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 16376)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ya just passed me in total BOINC rankings, ya bastiche. :)

-jim

:P Personal BOINC rankings don't mean a lot to me when they don't include my million plus SETI credits......

ROTFLMAO...

I'm glad I continue to entertain you The Gas Giant. Keep sniffing.

Where's my million plus SETI credits?


1017) Message boards : Number crunching : Questions For Travis (Message 16373)
Posted 21 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice in the Caribbean?!

XD

He's captain of the Jamaican bobsled team.

I'm very good at bobbing

That is so wrong.

OK, weaving then.
1018) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 16285)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

~ views (over the Caribbean Sea)

1019) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : No forum is complete without funny Cat pictures (other funny pics allowed too) (Message 16284)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Do cruise ships have ships cats?


1020) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Hellooooo... (Message 16283)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Going back a few posts....

We can't *eep anymore?

What's the world coming to?


It can be hard not to *eep. :D

Nobody did any before that Lisa came here doing it.

was your avatar always sideways?

I'm trying to bias my processor toward doing more MW units.

You're making me seasick

1021) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : What are You listening to? (Message 16281)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

surf
1022) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 16279)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Jamaican rum
1023) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The copy cat thread (Message 16278)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
copy that




Start a thread with a slightly different title just to show how clever you are.

Start a post with slightly different wording just to show how clever you are.

;p

Start talking with slightly different inflections in your voice to show how clever you are.

1024) Message boards : Number crunching : WU abuse (Message 16271)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Some go to the north pole, others to the equator in their holidays


Some even go to the Caribbean.

Live long and Beers!

Good idea, but do you think that this is such a real good idea for everyone to be doing? It could bring the server to its knees...

1025) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 16223)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

In the MW top 50 for credit at 49th, currently with 5,101,816 credits

1026) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The copy cat thread (Message 16216)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



Start a thread with a slightly different title just to show how clever you are.

Start a post with slightly different wording just to show how clever you are.

;p

Start talking with slightly different inflections in your voice to show how clever you are.


1027) Message boards : Number crunching : WU abuse (Message 16177)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Even Ice uses one....

No I don't, I have three. And just are you trying to start now The Gas Giant? Why do all your posts seem to end up naming me with taking a poke at me? Is your life so bad that you have no other kicking post?
1028) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 16165)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

5 million for MW
1029) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 16164)
Posted 20 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ya just passed me in total BOINC rankings, ya bastiche. :)

-jim

:P Personal BOINC rankings don't mean a lot to me when they don't include my million plus SETI credits. But they all count for my team, so what the heck, I'm about to cruise the Caribbean ;)


1030) Message boards : Number crunching : WU abuse (Message 16098)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Why are machines going dead and not getting new WU's, even when there are WU's available. If you have people forcing reloads of new WU's they really need to be banned for the abuse. It's completely screwing up the WU reload for everyone else. If this is not the case does anyone else have thoughts on it. Patrick

I'm not sure you can ban people when such activity has not been declared as a bannable offence. I have made my opinion on this matter in this post. If such activity is against the rules of this forum then it should be stated so. Anyone giving out information which may lead to the servers being hammered, even though they were warned it may do so, should be dealt with appropriately.
1031) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The copy cat thread (Message 16062)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Start a thread with a slightly different title just to show how clever you are.
1032) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 16017)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Some say that credits are valueless. I say they represent the contribution that you make to science projects, and are damn fun to watch as your team propels upwards in the BOINC top 100.


And the downward spiral of rejecting science and becoming a credit whore begins...

But, from a scientific point of view, there appears to be a correlation between the speed and downward force of the spiral and the number of gpus.

Well, let me see. Let me quote from my SETI profile;

I was the original founder of Team England in SETI and would like to see it grow into a major SETI team.

Yes, the team I am in are doing good in SETI, and dare I say that with a little help from my GPUs here, they are doing good in MilkyWay.
1033) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 16016)
Posted 19 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
CREDIT WHORE

Now I want everyone reading this thread to click on that link so we can see Ice's profile listed as Google's #1 search return for "credit whore".

Click now and click often.

Ha ha ha, that's great, now I have something else to bash apart from that update button ;P
1034) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15991)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
One for the HOG scrapbook. Entry in the Top 20 Participants with a RAC of 150,000 plus.

Improbability is still rising, but the moral of the story for me is clear.

Buy a graphic card with the intention of getting rid of your old computers and drain on your electricty bill, and you may end up with three graphic cards and more PCs humming in your garage than you had before.

However, watching that RAC and your credits rising is more than worth the expense and effort. Some say that credits are valueless. I say they represent the contribution that you make to science projects, and are damn fun to watch as your team propels upwards in the BOINC top 100.


1035) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : GLOBE at Night 2009 (Message 15984)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Here's the one at our observatory (photo courtesy of Dr. Bill). It's a Meade LX 200 (.4 meter) with a 3.5 inch Questar guide telescope on top.

[IMG ]snip[/IMG ]

That's a fantastic Meade, thanks for sharing that photo Mary. Here is my Meade, no guide telescope, but a digital camera instead.


1036) Message boards : Number crunching : Questions For Travis (Message 15974)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice in the Caribbean?!

XD

He's captain of the Jamaican bobsled team.

I'm very good at bobbing and sledding, but this year I'll be doing the Barbados Ice Chill! :)

1037) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15928)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
banditwolf wrote:

......Ice still isn't normal. ;p

The Gad Giant wrote:
LOL..too true!


Like the bumper sticker says: "Why Be Normal?" I especially like it when people put them on upside down.

ATI card contribution is still rising, but normality is not yet complete.


Anton, as much as I don't respect you, that is serious RAC there. I bow to your RAC....! Paul.

Duncan: Excuse me, what did you say?
Magua: Magua said... I understand English, very well.

Just be deliberately hostile or insulting, why don't you.
1038) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 15921)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
RAC of 150,000 in MilkyWay
1039) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 15920)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
god, if mobile phones are crashing now, we 'do' have problems.

I'm looking for one of them fancy new ones with the posh graphics and the built-in Linux.
My idea is to get it running MW in the style of the GPUs apps, but I expect I'd have to keep it in a bucket of water for cooling purposes as they dont come with built-in fans.


Well the name BT O2 implies it has its own oxygen supply. It might just work underwater.

Or under cover if used by an alias
1040) Message boards : Number crunching : So what's the project status?? (Message 15917)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
People running update scripts somewhat irritate me, because while I could do it, I feel it is akin to attempting to "butt in line".

It's irritating that someone should have publicised this feature in this thread - Update Script. And then to go on to encourage with;

My update script appears to be working well. It's been able to update and get work when my 4850 has run out a few times now. It's not hammering the schedular, just every so often. Still, it's a little clunky and should really look for the dreaded "Got 0 new tasks" message - not just update every so often.

What I find even more irritating is that he didn't even share his findings, just ask for help, brag about having found it, and then brag that it's "not hammering the schedular" as if he knew squat about what he was talking about.
1041) Message boards : Number crunching : Questions For Travis (Message 15915)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

2. Is Travis AWOL?


All those who aren't here would you please raise your hand?

I ment that for Dave, as Travis doesn't seem to be around.

Do I have to request leave when I'm not around?

Two weeks starting Monday please, no mobile phone calls including Retired BT. Oh go on then, phone me in the Caribbean if you must.
1042) Message boards : Number crunching : Any plans to split GPU tasks and CPU tasks? (Message 15914)
Posted 18 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You have to listen to aliens - and only with a computer. It's the only way...


I thought it was with a cheap pair of headphones... Now you tell me!?!?!

Oh, errr, take care. You'll be putting some academics out of a job. Abandon expensive computers - cheap headphones are just as good for listening to static....

Meanwhile, at MilkyWay headquarters, we don't only use graphic cards just to look at graphic. Oh no, we also use them to further the cause of real science. With a little help from Cluster Physik and his fine team mates ;)
1043) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 15846)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What about the 'rest to the left'? I'm sure everyone realizes there must have been a reason but doesn't know why.

Anybody can find out why if they know where to look.

I'm usually good with Google, but it's knowing what to search for, and which BT O2 mobile to use
1044) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 15828)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just goes to show that one must be careful how you type out a post. It could be offensive without really trying to be offensive, sometimes I've wanted to make a funny remark, but didnt because I wasnt sure if it would be taken out of context. Not picking sides, just making an observation. I dont know what happened.

I agree. I've done the same thing. I don't know either.

I'm sure the ban was to do with a clear breach of the forum rules which warranted a ban. It doesn't just have to be for something like an offensive remark. It could be for commercial advertising, displaying links to gambling, disclosing somebody else's personal information to the forum, abusive comments about race, religion, etc, etc.

Read the information to the left next time you post.

What about the 'rest to the left'? I'm sure everyone realizes there must have been a reason but doesn't know why.

Then that is to the credit of the Administrators/Moderators of MilkyWay - who dealt with the problem and contained it before any more damage could be done.

[edit] This is my own view of course - I don't speak for MW admin/mods
1045) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : GLOBE at Night 2009 (Message 15827)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Being in the city it's hard to get a good night to view. Usually clouds or haze. But once in a while I see some nice things.

I used to see some nice things with my Meade ETX-70AT telescope, but the computerized motor is failing so it doesn't find the stars any more. It's really hard to point manually so I don't tend to bother with it much now.

1046) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA PhysX Milkyway@Home application (Message 15820)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hello All!
I know it has been asked hundred times, I just wanted to make a clear post to be up to date in this topic. PLease post here anything that I can do to use my nvidia GPU to work on this project!

thanks

It can't be used to process WUs here, not yet, although some developments for nvidia may be in the pipeline. Currently only ATI Radeon graphic cards, HD3800 or HD4800 series and Firestream 9200 series, can be used.
1047) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15808)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I would have thought a couple of straight jackets would be better along with a leather mask with a ball in the mouth.....

I'm sure they are there already.

I'll drink to that (maybe next week)



Don't drop your BT mobile phone overboard.

Yes, I'll be bringing the retired O2 phone with me - you never know when I might want to surf a text message to people who create alias accounts and then PM me to plead their innocence (if they are innocent why would they PM me, and why create alias accounts like they did in SETI?)

Did you ever think a truce might be called for?

Terms?

You've done this before. Then carried on with your irresistable way to cause trouble and agro to those you and your friends wish to target.

As I said. Terms? Just what is it that YOU will stop, if I stop trying to expose a certain multiple account abuser. And Why should this abuser not be exposed?

So easy to ask 'stop' when you're being defeated by your own games, eh?
1048) Message boards : Number crunching : Any plans to split GPU tasks and CPU tasks? (Message 15803)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How come seti dosn't get an active link, but all the others do?

Other than the fact that I hate SETI@Home?

I'm sure you must be the only one ;P

Yes, I am sure that I am about the only one that feels this way ... if you look at participation rates you would think that SaH is doing something that is actually important... but I just cannot see it ...

Oh my, it's because you are looking. You have to listen to aliens - and only with a computer. It's the only way... But you can always turn radio waves of static into a screensaver if it helps.
1049) Message boards : Number crunching : Any plans to split GPU tasks and CPU tasks? (Message 15799)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How come seti dosn't get an active link, but all the others do?

Other than the fact that I hate SETI@Home?

I'm sure you must be the only one ;P
1050) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 15796)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just goes to show that one must be careful how you type out a post. It could be offensive without really trying to be offensive, sometimes I've wanted to make a funny remark, but didnt because I wasnt sure if it would be taken out of context. Not picking sides, just making an observation. I dont know what happened.

I agree. I've done the same thing. I don't know either.

I'm sure the ban was to do with a clear breach of the forum rules which warranted a ban. It doesn't just have to be for something like an offensive remark. It could be for commercial advertising, displaying links to gambling, disclosing somebody else's personal information to the forum, abusive comments about race, religion, etc, etc.

Read the information to the left next time you post.
1051) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : GLOBE at Night 2009 (Message 15795)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The other problem we're finding is that even when we get away from the cities and head out into open fields, there's still too much light pollution.

I once took my telescope to a pub (public house - bar) which was in the middle of nowhere. Just the pub in the middle of fields - the nearest neighbouring building about half a mile away. I set the telescope up in the car park as far away from the pub as I could. The light pollution from the pub, which was well lit, was still surprisingly very significant.
1052) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 15792)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

4 million BOINC credits overall.


Never mind about that - now over 4 million MilkyWay credits.
1053) Message boards : Number crunching : How is this possible? (Message 15790)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Those computers are running an optimized GPU app. Some WU's finish in less than 1 second I've heard.

That's CPU time, which is basically the amount of communication taken between the CPU and the GPU. The 'wall clock' time will be longer.

Yes, the actual processing time of a WU is around 12 seconds, depending on which ATI card you have, how much you have it clocked, and what else is is going on in your computer at the time. I've recorded as low as 8 seconds, but then the WUs have been getting bigger, and it's difficult to time the WU's when 2 or more are processing at the same time.
1054) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15788)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
banditwolf wrote:

......Ice still isn't normal. ;p

The Gad Giant wrote:
LOL..too true!


Like the bumper sticker says: "Why Be Normal?" I especially like it when people put them on upside down.

ATI card contribution is still rising, but normality is not yet complete.

1055) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI Crunchers dominate top 100 list (Message 15786)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

That list shows top users for multiple projects,

users participate in two or more projects with a resource share of 5% or more.



I see nothing wrong with this - seems that many have found a way to do work faster, and get rewarded for that work. As it should be.

I agree. I can get three ATI cards or 30 PCs to do the same job (or is it 130?). Are those with multiple PCs doing something wrong by contributing so much?
1056) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15785)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I would have thought a couple of straight jackets would be better along with a leather mask with a ball in the mouth.....

I'm sure they are there already.

I'll drink to that (maybe next week)



Don't drop your BT mobile phone overboard.

Yes, I'll be bringing the retired O2 phone with me - you never know when I might want to surf a text message to people who create alias accounts and then PM me to plead their innocence (if they are innocent why would they PM me, and why create alias accounts like they did in SETI?)
1057) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : GLOBE at Night 2009 (Message 15784)
Posted 17 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...unable to see the stars in our Milky Way galaxy arch across a
pristinely dark sky.

Light pollution has always stopped me seeing the stars from horizon to about a third up. One day there'll be a power cut and I'll find all the trees and buildings are in the way ;)
1058) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15701)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
**YAWN**.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............

Yea boring. Numbers usually are. But the Heart of Gold must go on to it's conlusion...

142,000 and rising, but no-one yawns until the big fat lady sings.



Ha ha ha. fair do banditwolf. Normaility has been achieved ;)
1059) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15694)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
**YAWN**.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............

Yea boring. Numbers usually are. But the Heart of Gold must go on to it's conlusion...

142,000 and rising, but no-one yawns until the big fat lady sings.
1060) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15688)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The flight path of my Heart Of Gold (HOG to the bikers) has been an interesting trajectory;

2 March (13 days ago) RAC 50,000

3 March (12 days ago) RAC 61,000

4 March (11 days ago) RAC 72,000

5 March (10 days ago) RAC 83,000

8 March ( 7 days ago) RAC 100,000

11 March (4 days ago) RAC 120,000

15 March (today) RAC 135,000

and I do believe it's still rising, and as such normality has not yet been achieved.

... and only a day later I have RAC 142,000
With a bit of luck I'll be back in the top 20 again.

That's just cool and froody ;)

1061) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15686)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I would have thought a couple of straight jackets would be better along with a leather mask with a ball in the mouth.....

I'm sure they are there already.

I'll drink to that (maybe next week)


1062) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15681)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Eschew on this!

No, sorry, I don't have this in any of my existing PCs;

Requirements
Minimum of a 550 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 40 Amps.)

My HD4870 is running with only a 330 Watt PSU, but I have my fingers crossed it won't drain my electricity budget. 550 might just break the bank, let alone my PCs trying to squeeze that PSU in.

Right, break the bank. That and a cruise.

This is what I'll be cruising on around the Caribbean next week click the pic for a larger version
I doubt if I'll be able to afford another ATI card when I get back, or even an nVidia, not after the Somali pirates have been and gone.

1063) Message boards : Number crunching : zslip 0.19d gpu and seti (Message 15602)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



Is he saying that this is the reason why Windows is slow? Because his mummy is in it?
1064) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15601)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Conspiracy theories again.....paranoia abounds!

Even paranoids have enemies ...

Just because I am paranoid does not mean you are not out to get me ...


I wear my tinfoil hat 24x7.

Me too, it keeps out all them psycotropic rays from retired-BT Cellphones:

Hmmm...only a hat? Surely a full body suit would do more.

A chastity belt is all you need. Protect yourself.

Don't forget the combination to the lock, or the number of the retired-BT Cellphone
1065) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15600)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've noticed the credit criers have stopped their crying.

It's tricky to get that script working I expect. But then the real trick is to get it to pound that 'update' button qucker than a human finger can. Even if it's The Big Finger Giant.

Especially the Big Finger Giant Pirate at Bay!


Pounding with a cutlass will wreak havock on the open seas!
1066) Message boards : Number crunching : Massive team movements (Message 15599)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's extraordinary. According to BOINCstats team Divodurum moved up 76,071 places in the last day. My own team, Team England (Boinc), shot up to 35th place, but is losing over 80 million credits a day in the process.

Using ATI warp speed 3 sure has some strange effects ;)

Looks like Synergy lost almost 884M yesterday.

Dollars or Euros? And anyways, you gotta talk billions before we can bail you out.

Not really. I'll just earmark the necessary funds in some obscure paragraph.

I'll just remain feeling lucky that my team lost 'only' 80 million. If losing 80 million is lucky that is. But lucky that we now have it back (can we have your 884M? :p )
1067) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15598)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Eschew on this!

No, sorry, I don't have this in any of my existing PCs;

Requirements
Minimum of a 550 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 40 Amps.)

My HD4870 is running with only a 330 Watt PSU, but I have my fingers crossed it won't drain my electricity budget. 550 might just break the bank, let alone my PCs trying to squeeze that PSU in.
1068) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15578)
Posted 16 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Eschewing obfuscation in his thread indeed seems to turn him in to a horrid little man.

If this doesn't get you banned, then nothing will. Let's all crap on each others threads.
1069) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15565)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Bugger!

There goes my plan to place an ATI card in a spare PCI-e slot, without a monitor connected and see it crunch.

I will need to replace the NV card with the HDx8xx series one to make any sense.

Excuse me. Will you not use that profane language in my thread. Curse in your own tread you horrid little man.

1070) Message boards : Number crunching : zslip 0.19d gpu and seti (Message 15564)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh I quite agree with what anybody says. Suck.
1071) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15562)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've noticed the credit criers have stopped their crying.

It's tricky to get that script working I expect. But then the real trick is to get it to pound that 'update' button qucker than a human finger can. Even if it's The Big Finger Giant.
1072) Message boards : Number crunching : Massive team movements (Message 15561)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's extraordinary. According to BOINCstats team Divodurum moved up 76,071 places in the last day. My own team, Team England (Boinc), shot up to 35th place, but is losing over 80 million credits a day in the process.

Using ATI warp speed 3 sure has some strange effects ;)

Looks like Synergy lost almost 884M yesterday.

Dollars or Euros? And anyways, you gotta talk billions before we can bail you out.
1073) Message boards : Number crunching : zslip 0.19d gpu and seti (Message 15559)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I was using 0.19d and windows graphics refreshes were, well, very very slow.

Try a decent ATI card. Or an ATI card if you're not using one. Remember, cheapest is not always the best, and two of that sort not necessarily better than one of those if you only have a PC with one PCI-E slot, or a PC with PSU not even rated for an ATI card. Try turning the PC on - that usually speeds it up and gets the graphics moving nicely.
1074) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15552)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The flight path of my Heart Of Gold (HOG to the bikers) has been an interesting trajectory;

2 March (13 days ago) RAC 50,000

3 March (12 days ago) RAC 61,000

4 March (11 days ago) RAC 72,000

5 March (10 days ago) RAC 83,000

8 March ( 7 days ago) RAC 100,000

11 March (4 days ago) RAC 120,000

15 March (today) RAC 135,000

and I do believe it's still rising, and as such normality has not yet been achieved.

That's just cool and froody ;)
1075) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15539)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Is anyone reading it?

Oh yes, I even tried f60 for a while. In fact, I might even try one or two more settings now that you've mentioned it ;)
1076) Message boards : Number crunching : Massive team movements (Message 15512)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
looks less strange now...

I liked it the way it was :p
1077) Message boards : Number crunching : Massive team movements (Message 15508)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's extraordinary. According to BOINCstats team Divodurum moved up 76,071 places in the last day. My own team, Team England (Boinc), shot up to 35th place, but is losing over 80 million credits a day in the process.

Using ATI warp speed 3 sure has some strange effects ;)


I've seen some odd things on BOINCStats recently. Now it shows your team at 88th place.

Here is a screenshot of BOINCstats not 30 minutes ago;

1078) Message boards : Number crunching : Massive team movements (Message 15505)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's extraordinary. According to BOINCstats team Divodurum moved up 76,071 places in the last day. My own team, Team England (Boinc), shot up to 35th place, but is losing over 80 million credits a day in the process.

Using ATI warp speed 3 sure has some strange effects ;)
1079) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15465)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Shall we start again? Is there someone masquerading with an alias account to spam these threads as he did in SETI, and now trying the same tricks here to fool us in Milkyway with a 'spy' account? Who's on first?...

Watt's on first. Who's on second.

I SPY WITH MY LITTLE EYE...!

A poster who keeps going peep?

A two finger poke would work.

A pig in a poke?

I'll order one for you right away on my retired BT mobile.
1080) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15443)
Posted 15 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
By the way, you could put version 0.19e of the ATI GPU app on zslip. The new version plays a bit nicer with the OS trying to react to user input. The system response should be quite a bit improved.

OK, that's done Cluster Physik. 0.19e is on zslip.com/org and the zslip.net/info UK mirrors.
1081) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15414)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Upped the clock to 615 MHz and guess what --
My 1st sub 1sec wu !!!!! http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=23350847


But only CPU time. It took your GPU more than 30 seconds to crunch this WU.

Yes, I must admit that the consept of CPU/GPU crunching took a while for me to get my head around. Doesn't really matter if the CPU takes a millionth of a second - it's the GPU that's doing the work and taking the time.

None-the-less, sub 1 seconds may be a rare thing (at least catching one to record it) - so congratulations Copycat-Digital! :)

It is a nice demonstration of the low CPU load.
But I would like to report GPU time as WU time in the next version as this is a much better representation of the time the WUs actually take. Only Travis has to agree with that. But he was quite quiet the last days, maybe still the flu?

There's probably some good snow at Belleayre.
1082) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 15407)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Upped the clock to 615 MHz and guess what --
My 1st sub 1sec wu !!!!! http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=23350847


But only CPU time. It took your GPU more than 30 seconds to crunch this WU.

Yes, I must admit that the consept of CPU/GPU crunching took a while for me to get my head around. Doesn't really matter if the CPU takes a millionth of a second - it's the GPU that's doing the work and taking the time.

None-the-less, sub 1 seconds may be a rare thing (at least catching one to record it) - so congratulations Copycat-Digital! :)
1083) Message boards : Number crunching : Any plans to split GPU tasks and CPU tasks? (Message 15312)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Makes sense, for queue generation purposes.

Few seconds on GPU is cool, but its more reasonable to feed the GPU something more complex, like an hour plus task!

Well, for the non-optimized applications, I was seeing run times up to and over an hour. So, by that definition, the GPU is a reasonable thing to use on those tasks. Though I will grant you that it would be nice to have the GPU running full time.

The good news is that we now have several projects with GPU applications live or soon to be released.

Einstein
GPU Grid
Milky Way
SaH (and SaH Beta)
The Lattice Project

It remains to be seen what this all means ...

What about Folding@home. Is that BOINC?

1084) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15311)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well... Please make your complains here...


I complain that this thread is too long. :P

But happy with the project? With or without alias accounts stalking us?

Ahhh, see, I was always on topic :P
1085) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15307)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
hmmm... death by spam.

Yea, I go out for the day and look what happens:-(

Seems like every thread gets overtaken by Ice, banditwolf, and Misfit in the end, doesn't it?


Yep. Sure does.

Every thread? Seems like you are talking utter rubbish. Yep. Sure does.
1086) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15306)
Posted 14 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Shall we start again? Is there someone masquerading with an alias account to spam these threads as he did in SETI, and now trying the same tricks here to fool us in Milkyway with a 'spy' account? Who's on first?...

quote=this post - in this thread

I started this ID on here to test compiles of the client on different machines, but then someone said I was a spy.


Someone said your ID was a spy? How come your name is now blank?

1087) Message boards : Number crunching : Opt app trouble (Message 15270)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

And also try the 8.12 drivers if you haven't already done so.


LOL, he said he is having trouble with the CPU app, not GPU :)

Oh yea, the 8.12 drivers won't help a CPU much ;)

wipe your telephoto lens off, it's smudged.

Thoroughly wiped, all camera equipment cleaned - in readiness for my Caribbean cruise in just over a week.
1088) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15266)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

But anything else goes???

Yep, they say if he masquerades pantless, we send in the BT telecoms mobile phone cleaners. Only the retired ones mind you.

Pantless retired mimes driving while texting.

...with a coffee and sandwich...

...and a giant slice of pizza while reading a book with a small dog on his lap.

...while flipping off the driver who just about hit 'em.

...just after they had their picture taken by a red light camera.

...with a long range zoom lens with anti alias filter.

...while wearing sunglasses made from 2 hydrogen alpha filters.

...while eating toast in fish fluid.

...while blasting YMCA on the radio.

...on my retired British Telecoms radio.

...on the way to RadioShack for spare parts.

...then realizing those parts haven't been made since the stone age.

...and realizing he's just not quick enough any more.
1089) Message boards : Number crunching : Opt app trouble (Message 15265)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

And also try the 8.12 drivers if you haven't already done so.


LOL, he said he is having trouble with the CPU app, not GPU :)

Oh yea, the 8.12 drivers won't help a CPU much ;)
1090) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15262)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

But anything else goes???

Yep, they say if he masquerades pantless, we send in the BT telecoms mobile phone cleaners. Only the retired ones mind you.

Pantless retired mimes driving while texting.

...with a coffee and sandwich...

...and a giant slice of pizza while reading a book with a small dog on his lap.

...while flipping off the driver who just about hit 'em.

...just after they had their picture taken by a red light camera.

...with a long range zoom lens with anti alias filter.

...while wearing sunglasses made from 2 hydrogen alpha filters.

...while eating toast in fish fluid.

...while blasting YMCA on the radio.

...on my retired British Telecoms radio.

...on the way to RadioShack for spare parts.

...stopping off at the post office to collect my pension first.
1091) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 15250)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
130,000+ RAC with 3 ATI cards.

I managed to stay ahead of your RAC with two ATI cards and a fraction of a few CPUs for some time - not so after a PSU died and took the mains breaker with it yesterday while I was away. Back in business today after an emergency wallet blood-letting, but I suspect 3 cards can be tough to beat anyway.

But your point is obvious, and one that I'm told some people who do professional graphics rendering also have understood: Let the graphics card do the heavy work and get more speed for less money.

I spent a while trying to catch you when I had two ATI cards - the third I added very recently, just yesterday ;)
1092) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15241)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

But anything else goes???

Yep, they say if he masquerades pantless, we send in the BT telecoms mobile phone cleaners. Only the retired ones mind you.

Pantless retired mimes driving while texting.

...with a coffee and sandwich...

...and a giant slice of pizza while reading a book with a small dog on his lap.

...while flipping off the driver who just about hit 'em.

...just after they had their picture taken by a red light camera.

...with a long range zoom lens with anti alias filter.

...while wearing sunglasses made from 2 hydrogen alpha filters.

...while eating toast in fish fluid.

...while blasting YMCA on the radio.

...on my retired British Telecoms radio.
1093) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15230)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

But anything else goes???

Yep, they say if he masquerades pantless, we send in the BT telecoms mobile phone cleaners. Only the retired ones mind you.

Pantless retired mimes driving while texting.

...with a coffee and sandwich...

...and a giant slice of pizza while reading a book with a small dog on his lap.

...while flipping off the driver who just about hit 'em.

...just after they had their picture taken by a red light camera.

...with a long range zoom lens with anti alias filter.

...while wearing sunglasses made from 2 hydrogen alpha filters.

...while eating toast in fish fluid.

1094) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 15227)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
130,000+ RAC with 3 ATI cards. How many PCs are you using to get a fraction of this?

It's not me that needs help...

Pull down a few uFluids workunits and see if that affects your ATI crunching. The darn thing killed my CUDA processing for some reason.

I may just take those fluids on. But right now I need some toast and a visit see how my pond fish are doing in their fluids.
1095) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 15218)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

130,000+ RAC with 3 ATI cards. How many PCs are you using to get a fraction of this?

It's not me that needs help...
1096) Message boards : Number crunching : Opt app trouble (Message 15138)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

And also try the 8.12 drivers if you haven't already done so.
1097) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15137)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

But anything else goes???

Yep, they say if he masquerades pantless, we send in the BT telecoms mobile phone cleaners. Only the retired ones mind you.

Pantless retired mimes driving while texting.

...with a coffee and sandwich...

...and a giant slice of pizza while reading a book with a small dog on his lap.

...while flipping off the driver who just about hit 'em.

...just after they had their picture taken by a red light camera.

...with a long range zoom lens with anti alias filter.
1098) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 15136)
Posted 13 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have actually switched off all rigs except the Nvida and Ati crunchers. Much easier on the electric with only 2 rigs. I don't mean the electricity they use directly but the major cost was in running the AC to try to keep it only near 80f in here. Envy those folks who can put puters in their cold garage. But can't take the cold myself so not moving anytime soon.

That was my original plan. One laptop with nvidia for using, one ATI for crunching; turn off all other including dilapidated old PCs - save on electricity and micromanaging a number of PCs. But then I had to have another ATI... and another...
1099) Message boards : Number crunching : zslip 0.19d gpu and seti (Message 15073)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The instructions can be found here.

That doesn't answer your question Holger, just tells you how to install the card. To get gpu ATI to share with another project is still a mystery to me. I only have 2 cores and manage to get two other WU's to share with nVidia gpu 'sometimes' - but with ATI I have only managed one non-MW WU to crunch with gpu ATI.

I find I am still experimenting with the settings in 0.19d to get a best mix of crunching. Hopefully 0.19e and beyond in the future will help us.

1100) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15068)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!

Could we leave the drama back over at SETI? Please?

This isn't drama. This is an action packed adventure. It may turn out to be a musical.

Let me know when it hits Broadway. :P

It's already a pantomime. "someone said I was a spy", who may well have dressed up in a sweetie wrappers. Extraordinary action for a panto!

I thought it was just a mime doing his invisible wall trick.

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

But anything else goes???

Yep, they say if he masquerades pantless, we send in the BT telecoms mobile phone cleaners. Only the retired ones mind you.
1101) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15059)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!

Could we leave the drama back over at SETI? Please?

This isn't drama. This is an action packed adventure. It may turn out to be a musical.

Let me know when it hits Broadway. :P

It's already a pantomime. "someone said I was a spy", who may well have dressed up in a sweetie wrappers. Extraordinary action for a panto!

I thought it was just a mime doing his invisible wall trick.

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

There will be no exposure until The Sun sign the contract.

Or until British Telecom get to know about it first.
1102) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 15058)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Credibility is rising, RAC now 120,000 but normality has not yet been achieved.

With Cosmo having scheduler problems more MW work is being crunch... MW total going up quicker. You'll need to do way better.

Oh it's just too much... I wanted to do more, and did much more than I did before... but 'they' are all doing more... it's so hard to keep up... to stop wanting to relax... to long for the days when "poh, who needs a decent graphic card" and crunching was done with actual computers...

Cosmo? I've been trying to crunch Cosmo all day. Keeps telling me it can't attach shared memory, or is it being picky about which graphic card I have ;)
1103) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15056)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!

Could we leave the drama back over at SETI? Please?

This isn't drama. This is an action packed adventure. It may turn out to be a musical.

Let me know when it hits Broadway. :P

It's already a pantomime. "someone said I was a spy", who may well have dressed up in a sweetie wrappers. Extraordinary action for a panto!

I thought it was just a mime doing his invisible wall trick.

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.

Hopefully he wasn't pantless.

Which account of his are we talking about?
1104) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15039)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!

Could we leave the drama back over at SETI? Please?

This isn't drama. This is an action packed adventure. It may turn out to be a musical.

Let me know when it hits Broadway. :P

It's already a pantomime. "someone said I was a spy", who may well have dressed up in a sweetie wrappers. Extraordinary action for a panto!

I thought it was just a mime doing his invisible wall trick.

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!

One must be careful lest be cited for indecent exposure.

There may be a breakthrough. Someone has PM'd me and wishes to expose the person ... (drum roll) ... who did it.
1105) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 15027)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!

Could we leave the drama back over at SETI? Please?

This isn't drama. This is an action packed adventure. It may turn out to be a musical.

Let me know when it hits Broadway. :P

It's already a pantomime. "someone said I was a spy", who may well have dressed up in a sweetie wrappers. Extraordinary action for a panto!

I thought it was just a mime doing his invisible wall trick.

Don't know about a wall, but he made a recent post here disappear. This needs to be exposed for what it is!
1106) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 14994)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You need to stand on one foot, hop in a clockwise circle 3 times, while playing a mandalin.

Thats how the rest of us get work.

;P

I find the John Cleese method works the best. I get a small branch from the garden, and use it to thrash my PCs for about a minute. That usually works.


A good slap with a large fish works too.

I must admit a branch from a shrubbery works must better that any ol' tree.
1107) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 14989)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You need to stand on one foot, hop in a clockwise circle 3 times, while playing a mandalin.

Thats how the rest of us get work.

;P

I find the John Cleese method works the best. I get a small branch from the garden, and use it to thrash my PCs for about a minute. That usually works.
1108) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14988)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

center

1109) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 14986)
Posted 12 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!

Could we leave the drama back over at SETI? Please?

This isn't drama. This is an action packed adventure. It may turn out to be a musical.

Let me know when it hits Broadway. :P

It's already a pantomime. "someone said I was a spy", who may well have dressed up in a sweetie wrappers. Extraordinary action for a panto!
1110) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14960)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Dance for your ~
1111) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14957)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Credibility is rising, RAC now 120,000 but normality has not yet been achieved.

1112) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 14949)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
quote=this post

I started this ID on here to test compiles of the client on different machines, but then someone said I was a spy.

Someone said your ID was a spy? How come your name is now blank?

Why would someone be foolish enough to blank out their name when their ID and information is easily viewable in the pagesource? Why would he want to delete BT Retired Team and friend from his acct? A mystery as enthralling as this demands to be solved!

This spy deleted his friends? How unkind.

[edit] Or is this nothing to do with kindness, but an act of trying to hide some unacceptable deception of trying to fool an entire message board ...

Yes enthralling indeed, demanding to be solved!
1113) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 14942)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
quote=this post

I started this ID on here to test compiles of the client on different machines, but then someone said I was a spy.


Someone said your ID was a spy? How come your name is now blank?
1114) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14898)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So far I have two 4830's, 4850, and a 4870 running with Winxp32 8.12 19b.
I have two more 4850's in the mail. Waiting to get a 4890 for my machine...

I have a 4850, a souped up 4850, and a 4870. I'm tempted to go for another 4870 now, but I think I'll take your advice and wait for the 4890 to come out.

I want to got to 850Mhz and beyond! :P
1115) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14885)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sun is going down here, so must be later, surely?

Dark here too, and don't call me Shirley!

So Shirley, what shall we call you? Sue? Betty? Mary? Bobby-joe?

Just call me up and ask if I'd like some of Ice's spare credits.

I expect to have a few more going spare now that I have my 3rd ATI on line :P

The Credit Whore Force is strong with this one.

Getting stronger my friend. I didn't even use the riser for my third - I now have a 4th PCI-E slot if I want to whore it to a 4th ;)
1116) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14884)
Posted 11 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So it was working only the system was more or less unresponsive?

I'm working on that and it will hopefully much better with 0.19e.


Yes, it was creating a few seconds delay in doing pretty much everything other than crunching. Sometimes my cursor to would become jerky. I appreciate your hard work Cluster Physik, and others too, and I can't wait to put the 3870 back to crunching in the near future.

I can't wait for 0.19e :)
1117) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14823)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Degrees
1118) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14820)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Ni!
1119) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14817)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Jack
1120) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14814)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sun is going down here, so must be later, surely?

Dark here too, and don't call me Shirley!

So Shirley, what shall we call you? Sue? Betty? Mary? Bobby-joe?

Just call me up and ask if I'd like some of Ice's spare credits.

I expect to have a few more going spare now that I have my 3rd ATI on line :P
1121) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14813)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

trees
1122) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14811)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

sapiens
1123) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : How Can I lose 2700 credits in a day? (Message 14798)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you would like to lose more, send em to me!

Please don't send them to me. I have nowhere to put them.

Yea your boxes are already stuffed full. :P

It's just that can't keep tab of it all now. It'd be wasted on me, and I'd probably lose the credit Rick6718 already lost :p
1124) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : How Can I lose 2700 credits in a day? (Message 14790)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you would like to lose more, send em to me!

Please don't send them to me. I have nowhere to put them.
1125) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Stats (Message 14787)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
waaaaa...

If you read about it. He says the other stats aren't changing. This is to see how much of ones credits come from each projects. And everyone can agree with the glut of gpu's recently that they are skewing the stats.


Also sounds like someone is a "little" self conscious about big #'s from very little work!

When I've got a dozen PCs maybe I'll do as much as 'very little work'.

Sorry to skew that stats, but right now I'm spewing WUs for my own and my team stats. Have to catch SETI.USA somehow... :P


No I'm not a "little" self conscious. I could do MW 24hrs and get more credits, but I prefer rosetta, so I don't get a lot of credits. There is a big difference between a Gpu that puts out 50k+/day and a pc that does 1-5k/day. They make the computers look anchient. So think what you may.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Everyone should contribute what they want/can.

That includes the time to build optimized apps, or the cash to pay for components which may or may not capture your imagination as you contribute to the science of this or any other project.
1126) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 14780)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, here's my scores on the doors for ATI overclocking;

HD4870; GPU clock: 800MHz, Memory Clock: 900MHz, Temperature: ~80C

HD4850; GPU clock: 685MHz, Memory Clock: 750MHz, Temperature: ~85C

HD4850; GPU clock: 730MHz, Memory Clock: 750MHz, Temperature: ~86C (Zalman fan)

In all cases I'm keeping the Memory Clock down to the lowest setting to keep the heat down, conserve power, and because I don't need it.

The first two have been stable for some days. The third only just came on line and needs some more testing, although I have tested it previously in another PC.
1127) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 14775)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
100,000 credits!

Well done Blurf. That's a good milestone ;)

1128) Message boards : Number crunching : Losing my BOINC manager (Message 14774)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
6.6.14 is a buggy one...I mean more buggy than usual.

I'm using 6.4.6. Maybe I should try 6.4.7.

BOINC Windows 6.4.6 was withdrawn due to a dodgy installer, I dunno if it had other issues.
Yes try 6.4.7.

I've finally turned on a PC with the 4850/Zalman fan, and am running under 6.4.7. After an hour, so far so good...
1129) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Stats (Message 14772)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
waaaaa...

If you read about it. He says the other stats aren't changing. This is to see how much of ones credits come from each projects. And everyone can agree with the glut of gpu's recently that they are skewing the stats.



Also sounds like someone is a "little" self conscious about big #'s from very little work!

When I've got a dozen PCs maybe I'll do as much as 'very little work'.

Sorry to skew that stats, but right now I'm spewing WUs for my own and my team stats. Have to catch SETI.USA somehow... :P

1130) Message boards : Number crunching : Losing my BOINC manager (Message 14701)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
6.6.14 is a buggy one...I mean more buggy than usual.

I'm using 6.4.6. Maybe I should try 6.4.7.
1131) Message boards : Number crunching : Losing my BOINC manager (Message 14700)
Posted 10 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thought I was the only one..

Press ctl+alt+del to open "Task Manager"
Select the "applications" tab
Right click on Boinc Manager in the list
Click on "Maximize"

That's the problem - it's disappeared from the applications tab in the Windows Task Manager, although the Propcesses tab shows all the seperate 'Image Names' still running, including boinc.exe

There is nothing to maximize. Nothing to do but run BOINC Manager again. Then if you click 'File, exit' in BOINC Manager, BOINC is still running.
1132) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 14628)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It will only get worse as more people adopt the ATI GPU application ...

Not all can adopt that position. It can be quite stretching and awkward.

I'm not sure what the problem is, but I don't seem to be running out of work, and am even beginning to run up a bit of a sweat.
1133) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14625)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Goto 'Your Account', 'Community preferances' & check 'Hide signatures'.

Yes, please everyone do that. Then I can claim I have 15 images and 345 links :P

I won't yet. :p I'll keep you from false claims. :p

I think 6 images and 5 links must be the limit. I hear what you're saying though and will have a look at replacing the animated stuff.


I haven't seen your sig animate yet. Many times I hit 'stop' to view the posts quicker & save load times, so I might be missing it.

It's very subtle. The ladies in the middle picture wink occassionally.

I have sigs display disabled. beat that.

Can't beat that, but I've flattened all the rotating gifs in my sig.

Not sure about the ladies in the main pic winking though...

I'll have to add my lovely pirate wench.

Handy to get into your computer I expect.
1134) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14624)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How about using your CPU for computer programs and your GPU to display graphics?

Fast? Jeepers creepers!

Keep going you credit whore. :P

Only if I get paid for it :P
1135) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14621)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Oh my, isn't this such a lot of fun.


1136) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 14592)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
3,000,000 credits

100,000 RAC
1137) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14591)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
or the looking peeping?

I'm gonna tell... :D

But you didn't, which is it?

I ment on Lisa for 'peeping'. :P

Ja, I know, I was hoping you could see what Lisa was peeping at ;)

Maybe your the Milky Way Peeper! :P

No, I'm sorry, you won't get a peep out of me...
1138) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14589)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
or the looking peeping?

I'm gonna tell... :D

But you didn't, which is it?

I ment on Lisa for 'peeping'. :P

Ja, I know, I was hoping you could see what Lisa was peeping at ;)
1139) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14586)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
or the looking peeping?

I'm gonna tell... :D

But you didn't, which is it?
1140) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14581)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm here, but can't decide what to add to the conversation... so Hi peeps x

Peeping instead of adding, eh? Is that making peeping sound or the looking peeping?
1141) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14578)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Just like old times, to be sure

1142) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14576)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Goto 'Your Account', 'Community preferances' & check 'Hide signatures'.

Yes, please everyone do that. Then I can claim I have 15 images and 345 links :P

I won't yet. :p I'll keep you from false claims. :p

I think 6 images and 5 links must be the limit. I hear what you're saying though and will have a look at replacing the animated stuff.


I haven't seen your sig animate yet. Many times I hit 'stop' to view the posts quicker & save load times, so I might be missing it.

It's very subtle. The ladies in the middle picture wink occassionally.

I have sigs display disabled. beat that.

Can't beat that, but I've flattened all the rotating gifs in my sig.

Not sure about the ladies in the main pic winking though...
1143) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14573)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
LoL its so funny with these intel dudes
you don't have 8 cores, you have 4 cores who pretend and acting like they are 2 cores.
yes its maybe annoying that MW see exactly what it is, but the application is running like it should there is only 1 core not 2.
hyperthreading is just a trick which fools a operating system to think there are 2 cores while its just 1.

Here's a good trick - my first ever Dell hyperthreading is right now churning out WU's far faster than the biggest farm I ever had.

The trick is in the HD4870 hidden inside it ;)
1144) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : milkyway released under GPLv3 (Message 14571)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Where can I get the SourceCode for the Stream capable client ?
I'm interested in porting it to linux.

Nowhere.

The whole thing is work in progress and I will share the code with Travis when it's finished. The readme supplied with the GPU app states my view on this topic.

I for one appreciate what you have shared so far Cluster Physik. It's been interesting to watch the development of such an astounding product. I look forward to seeing what the future will bring with your vision and your graphic cards ;)
1145) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14570)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

How about using your CPU for computer programs and your GPU to display graphics?


Fast? Jeepers creepers!


1146) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14569)
Posted 9 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Hawkeye



1147) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14475)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I once hired a small car in the USA which had 3 cylinders, which I'd never come across before. Can you imagine pulling one of the spark plugs? That's how it is for me a I guess - I hope my spark plug arrives tomorrow ;)


Ahh, yes - the late, lamented (by some) Suzuki Swift or its rebadged twin, the Geo Metro. I met someone who had one, and said it got quite a bit north of 40 MPG. This is especially impressive given that I'm pretty sure this was a carbureted engine!

That's it! I recognize the name. It was a Geo Metro. Nice little car, got me all the way from LA to Phoenix and back, and around most of Arizona. Ha ha, I even got done for speeding on the way back from Flagstaff on the I-17, so it could shift for a small car ;)
1148) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14471)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

In the future it may become possible to distribute the GPU apps by the project automatically. But there is still a lot of developement to do.

And you and speedimic are doing some grand developing Cluster Physik ;)
1149) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14465)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I haven't been able to get the ATI v9.2 to work yet on my i7 running XP Pro 64-Bit & 4870 Card. I Installed it & just tried it without any other changes, All I got was Computation errors, so I copied/pasted/renamed the 3 files like described above & then all I got was VPU Recover Errors ???

Sorry if I'm being obvious, but did you reboot after: copying the files, renaming them and moving the renamed files into windows\system32 ?

I've tried the 9.2 drivers and got partial success (after a while ATI kept crashing), so I'm now using 8.12 both for my 4850 and 4870 successfully.


Limited success at best, I rebooted it @ still got the VPU Errors, went back to v8.12 @ it's running okay now.

Also the <cmdline>n2</cmdline> entry to the v0.19d Application File doesn't do anything, at least for me it doesn't anyway. It starts out running 1 WU but the longer BOINC runs the more Milkyway WU's start up, as many as 6-7. So the Default of 3 and the <cmdline>n2</cmdline> or what ever you want to put in there don't work with the v0.19d Application ...

When you say, 6-7, do mean that it says they are running under 'Status', but only 2 (when n2) are actually making progess under 'Progress' (ie, only 2 are actually running/crunching) ?
1150) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14460)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Very impressive banditwolf! Maybe next year I won't grow my billions of tomato plants and have a go at these cacti. Those flowering type are great.

Cacti as of the past week:

~3 months old (start from 3 leaves),

~15 months old (from 3 & 1 leaves)
1151) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14457)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I hope my spark plug arrives tomorrow

Not sure that'll help you. :P

My 4850 with BIG Zalman fan won't run without it.

This 4850 is already rated at 700 MHz (as opposed to the standard 625 MHz) - and I've already clocked it at 730 MHz after whipping out my 4870 to test it.

4870 is back crunching, but 4850 with BIG fan awaits it's spark plug ;)
1152) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14443)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fantastic! Well done Brickhead!, that's done the trick for me :D

Uh-oh, does this mean I'd better watch my back now? :D

Happy to learn that my findings still hold water now that we have a statistical base of no less than 4 :P

I'm not sure what you're watching, but I'm watching two MW WUs steadily crunching on two machines, with each crunching a CPDN WU in addition.

Fantastic! Cheers Brickhead, you're a star! :)

1153) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14440)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I once hired a small car in the USA which had 3 cylinders, which I'd never come across before. Can you imagine pulling one of the spark plugs? That's how it is for me a I guess - I hope my spark plug arrives tomorrow ;)

1154) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14437)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I haven't been able to get the ATI v9.2 to work yet on my i7 running XP Pro 64-Bit & 4870 Card. I Installed it & just tried it without any other changes, All I got was Computation errors, so I copied/pasted/renamed the 3 files like described above & then all I got was VPU Recover Errors ???

Sorry if I'm being obvious, but did you reboot after: copying the files, renaming them and moving the renamed files into windows\system32 ?

I've tried the 9.2 drivers and got partial success (after a while ATI kept crashing), so I'm now using 8.12 both for my 4850 and 4870 successfully.
1155) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14432)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Oh yea, I forgot to mention, 3 of the 6 images are animated (all made by me) - I'm working on the others :P


hmm... won't improve the situation for me. :(

I'll try to get another browser...


Goto 'Your Account', 'Community preferances' & check 'Hide signatures'.


no, I won't see the planes then. ;)

Just installed Opera mini - by far not as pretty and handy as Chrome - but I can read the posts.
Put in your sig whatever you like :P

In your sig? Then I can have 2 :P
1156) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14429)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
<snip>

... it's as simple as getting the maths straight and give it a few hours.

Fantastic! Well done Brickhead!, that's done the trick for me :D
1157) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14415)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...its been running good so far, both GPUs are showing 99.9% utilization. :)

That's good. But what I'm trying to do is to run another project with the spare CPU that the GPU isn't using. I'm succeeding so far with the 4870 and have a CPDN task running. If I get two CPDN, or one CPDN and a Cosmology, the MW crunching stops.

As for the 4850 - it's still cracking on with 4 MW tasks, but doesn't seem to want to share the CPU.
1158) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14408)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well, it's been running well since I set it to n1, crashed once when power saver turned the display off. The biggest thing I am curious about at the moment, is: I have a 3870 and a 4850 in it at the moment, but with n1, only one WU is running... shouldn't there be two?

The optimim is n3. n1 will only run one work unit at a time. I have mine set to n2, but with my 4850 4 WUs are always crunching at once. With my 4870, just 2 crunch as expected.

And btw, thank you very much fior taking the time to help me out

no problem :)
1159) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14406)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I had a chat with my potatoes while they were chitting. It was just an excuse to see if any of my seeds had started to come up yet - I've temporarilly turned my dinning room into a greenhouse.

No little shoots just yet. Apart from the potatoes of course, which are chitting away nicely.



I figured I'll be starting (trying to) some seeds soon. Though my christmas cactus starts are bloming (again!). Only planted one 3 months ago, it's rooted and bloomed that quick.

Lots of kudos for growing the catus - I hear they're quite hard to grow. I find peppers hard to grow. I'm trying quite a few varieties this year, including chili peppers.
1160) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14399)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I had a chat with my potatoes while they were chitting. It was just an excuse to see if any of my seeds had started to come up yet - I've temporarilly turned my dinning room into a greenhouse.

No little shoots just yet. Apart from the potatoes of course, which are chitting away nicely.

1161) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14397)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh, my apology, I did omit a step. I uninstalled 9.2, wiped it clean with Driver Cleaner Pro.

Then in that case I would try 9.1
1162) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14396)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Goto 'Your Account', 'Community preferances' & check 'Hide signatures'.

Yes, please everyone do that. Then I can claim I have 15 images and 345 links :P

I won't yet. :p I'll keep you from false claims. :p

I think 6 images and 5 links must be the limit. I hear what you're saying though and will have a look at replacing the animated stuff.


I haven't seen your sig animate yet. Many times I hit 'stop' to view the posts quicker & save load times, so I might be missing it.

It's very subtle. The ladies in the middle picture wink occassionally.
1163) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14392)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Goto 'Your Account', 'Community preferances' & check 'Hide signatures'.

Yes, please everyone do that. Then I can claim I have 15 images and 345 links :P

I won't yet. :p I'll keep you from false claims. :p

I think 6 images and 5 links must be the limit. I hear what you're saying though and will have a look at replacing the animated stuff.
1164) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14390)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have a little story, so bear with me before I get to my actual question.

CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600 OC'd to 3 GHz
GPU: Radeon HD3870

I just read up on the 19d app, souded good so I thought I'd give it a go. Running Windows 7 on Vista 64 Catalyst 9.2 with proper ati*.dll files in my sys32 folder. It ran pretty well running its 3 WUs in way better time than the 19 app did. Then... the driver crashed. Restarted, did it again, of course. So I read up more on the xml file and tweaked a bit, first to n1, and the GPU still ran at max load constantly, so I started messing with the w variable, and had to get it up to 1.6 before the load decreased. But by now, my crunching time had suffered so much it was worse off than the 19 app. So I found this here thread and saw that the 8.12 drivers are supposed to work way better. After fighting with Windows 7 for about 2 hours, I FINALLY get the install to go through. Cautiously, I started at n2 and no w variable. About 1 minute in display crash again. So I hit up n1 and it's going well. Then I had this thought, I have an extra 4850 laying around(the 3870 has better cooling as well as GDDR4 for gaming performance(, so why not toss that in just to crunch since the 19d app supports multiple GPUs. Load that up, strongarm windows into using the right drivers and fire boinc back up. Still, only one WU crunches. It was my understanding, and please, if I'm flat out wrong, I apologize, that the n1 flag would let one WU crunch per gpu? If this is the case, what might I be doing wrong?

Sounds a familiar to the problem I was getting (when 9.2 worked for a while then kept crashing). My theory is that you need to uninstall 9.2 completely - including the CCC Catalyst Control Centre. Otherwise you may have settings somewhere in your system that is causing an overclock with 8.12.

Flush it all out with a complete uninstall of all ATI products before installing 8.12 - is what I would advise.
1165) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14386)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...
As I previously mentioned, I got the zslip sites for an invention I had/have in mind, but turned over the sites to MilkyWay science (not the invention, just use of the sites). zsling initially was to get the most images/links in a BOINC project signature - I have 6 images and 5 links in my MilkyWay signature, which, as you know is restricted to 250 characters. Now, is that optimization or what :P
...


LOL, now I know why the browser of my G1 freaks out when it comes showing your posts. Must be that animated stuff...


Oh yea, I forgot to mention, 3 of the 6 images are animated (all made by me) - I'm working on the others :P


hmm... won't improve the situation for me. :(

I'll try to get another browser...


Goto 'Your Account', 'Community preferances' & check 'Hide signatures'.

Yes, please everyone do that. Then I can claim I have 15 images and 345 links :P
1166) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 14385)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi All,

I don't get any job since 4PM (3PM UT).
What's wrong with the server ?


Thanks

I've been getting work OK today.
1167) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14384)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Will these work ok with the new BOINC manager 6.4.7? Just had to do a re-install and 6.4.5 seems to have vanished.

Yes 6.4.7 should be fine. I've been using 6.4.6, which some had problems using, so it's been re-issued as 6.4.7, which should be OK.
1168) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Milkyway chit chat - Now Closed! (Message 14356)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Strangley enough, my potatoes are also chitting indoors.

1169) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Solar System (Message 14343)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I remember one of these from Pitch Black when one of these astronomical models revealed that a month-long total eclipse was imminent when the nasty alien creatures were about to emerge.

It struck me then that with all the futuristic space craft and equipment being used, that they had a clockwork clock to tell the time.

Nice looking device, but not sure it would stand up for very long with my two cats...
1170) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 14335)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ha ha, yes I was thinking that, wondering if the 12 seconds might come down to 11 or 10.... then, what the heck - 12 seconds is fast enough! ;)

But then where would we be without a challenge?

You want a challenge?

I owe a beer to that nvidia developer who produces a CUDA version that runs faster on a brand new dual GPU GTX295 card than my version on a single GPU HD4870.
I first thought about offering the same for a comparison to a mainstream HD4850, but in that case there would be a (slim) chance ;)

Cluster Physik, I don't know much about nvidia and CUDA, except that nvidia is slowly giving me some credits on a laptop. I've also heard about some who have some nvidia going spare now that they have taken them out and replaced with ATI. If I could take out my on-board nvidia and replace with ATI I certainly would, but I just don't have any solder for my soldering iron right now :P
1171) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14333)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
don't
1172) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work Given Until Run Out of Work? (Message 14332)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
With the GPU app I'm seeing the behaviour atm where while I've got less than the 6 wu's per core cached, I can hit update and BOINC (6.6.12 and XP) says it is asking for work, but MW gives me none. I can then run out of work, hit update and I get work, but not always, but currently I never get new work while there is at least 1 wu cached.

Frustrating when you've got a beast to feed....and I hate micro-managing BOINC.

Any ideas on how to overcome this?

Also, any ideas on how to get the back-off time shown again?

Also,

Strange things can happen when you first kick off a ATI GPU app. I've installed and re-installed the 4850 as part of running some tests, and similar to what you describe happens. Just keeping pressing update when it gets 'stuck' and eventually it will settle down to a pattern where you can just watch it ripple without any micro-managing.

If it doesn't settle down... then also,
1173) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14324)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

handbags

1174) Message boards : Number crunching : Losing my BOINC manager (Message 14323)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I seem to loose my BOINC manager every now and then. I occassionally find a PC showing no BOINC manager, although task manager shows BOINC is running with the astronomy* tasks, and indeed on firing up (another) BOINC manager I can see everything running OK. Close downn BOINC manager (presumably a second instance) and task manger shows BOINC still running.

Anyone else get this?
1175) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14321)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 100,000 RAC... and rising.

(... but normality has still not yet been acieved ...)
1176) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14320)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Install the 8.12 drivers ...


I'll try that once I have access to the Dell again.

I found that it was best to go into Control Panel, Add or Remove Programs, and remove the ATI display drivers first. The 0.19* apps seemed to behave better than with just adding 8.12 without removing existing ATI drivers first.
1177) Message boards : Number crunching : been sick (Message 14319)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looks like Travis was scared off again... :P

Time to blame Misfit!! ;P

It's cuz someone else has completely lost it. It's true because I sez so.

Completely? Bit of an understatement I would sez so.

Hope you're feeeling better Travis.
1178) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14318)
Posted 8 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I've updated ZSLING with a few more of my favorite MilkyWay links.

If anyone has any suggestions for useful links that I could add, please post them here, thanks.


You might like to add http://www.mothershipathome.org/index.php. It's currently still pre-Alpha (for those who love a site that is running smoothly...) and is not easy to join up with (you appear at the moment to need an invite, although that can't be that hard as I managed it, and I am not on form at the moment...). I'm not even exactly sure what they will be doing, but it is some form of medical research :)

Thanks for that Debs. Although it's not giving out work units or credits just yet, it might be a project of interest to some if it takes off. I'll add this in my next update, thanks again.
1179) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14288)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, I've got the 3870 installed, Catalyst 9.1 drivers, no other application running, only Boinc with the optimized apps for ATI GPU (0.19d Win64), but it's crashing the graphics driver very often (the Catalyst Control Center is not running in the background). I can't leave my computer crunching away without checking up on it from time to time. Is it the nature of the beast as it's not a final version? When it does work it's very fast, making my Dell AMD dual core nearly beat my Mac Pro with 8 cores!

Install the 8.12 drivers Alberto. I've never managed to get the 9.1 drivers to work, and the 8.12 drivers are working well with my HD4870.

I tried the 9.2 drivers with my HD4870 as well as the 9.1, which worked for a while and then not in both cases, so I reverted to the 8.12 drivers and everything is well again and runs fine. I'm using optimized app version 0.19d.
1180) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14268)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi Ice! Here's a link that has been pretty useful, lots of free download links etc. http://www.cnet.com/ This site has some pretty good mailing lists too, I dont really subscribe to many mailing lists but they always have lots of the "new" stuff to check out. Another site you might like is "zdnet", lots of tech apps at both of these sites.

Hi Bruce, Thanks for the links, I'll keep them in mind when I do my next update. I'm also interested in any BOINC-related links, if anyone wants to suggest any.
1181) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14267)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No mail today, hopefully I'll get the riser tomorrow. Sadly I have one HD4870 just sitting here in a box, just slightly used, and very much lazily doing nothing :( ... lol

Send it to UCB, they are not going to do anything until they get an ATI card ...

Anything with memory greater than 128MB will do. ;)

I think I'll keep it for now, it's back in the Dell cruching away at 800 MHz.

The first 4850 is still running at 685 MHz. The latest 4850 with BIG fan is now tested at 730 MHz, but awaiting riser for it's new home in a small cramped PC. So I'm just firing on 2 cyliders just now, a trident due to fire up soon I hope, maybe early next week.
1182) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14227)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...
As I previously mentioned, I got the zslip sites for an invention I had/have in mind, but turned over the sites to MilkyWay science (not the invention, just use of the sites). zsling initially was to get the most images/links in a BOINC project signature - I have 6 images and 5 links in my MilkyWay signature, which, as you know is restricted to 250 characters. Now, is that optimization or what :P
...


LOL, now I know why the browser of my G1 freaks out when it comes showing your posts. Must be that animated stuff...


Oh yea, I forgot to mention, 3 of the 6 images are animated (all made by me) - I'm working on the others :P
1183) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14225)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I've updated ZSLING with a few more of my favorite MilkyWay links.

If anyone has any suggestions for useful links that I could add, please post them here, thanks.
1184) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Math logic (Message 14191)
Posted 7 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, I give you 103% for these interesting conclusions :)

(The extra 3% is for the way you tell em ;)
1185) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 14182)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice. Don't take this badly. I have you on filter and request you kindly leave me alone and stay well away from me.

Thank you.

If you have me filtered then there's no need to say anything to me, is there?

But quit with the 'vermin' crap. You to Gas Giant.
1186) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 14173)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
True. I've seen vermin come in and bait folks outright, which is against the rules for posting. But we know those who do that sort of thing are weak minded individuals.

Well rather than just being locked the thread has been deleted. That really sucks.

I wanted it locked before those that like to follow me around making snide comments came and trashed it. I guess it got trashed anyway.

Oh for goodness sakes Esme, grow up. Travis usually hides a thread before deciding what to do with it, and to see if there is anything untowards in it. Let him do as he feels fit not as how you demand.
1187) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 14168)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Does this actually work?

I've made two red x. One was a very valid complaint a while ago and one was asking for a thread to be locked and there has been no action taken on either.

My my, poor Travis was sick and didn't snap to your attention. And what's with all this talk of yours about 'vermin' and The Gas Giant going on about it as well? Is that sort of talk necessary?
1188) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14154)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The 4850 with Zalman fan is installed and running. The overclock takes it right up to 750Mhz - the highest the ATI Overdrive program will go :P

Just waiting for the postman with my riser so I can shoe-horn the 4870 into the other PC...


The mailman is lazy & destructive here. (That is if we even get the mail to start with. :( Ups is great.

No mail today, hopefully I'll get the riser tomorrow. Sadly I have one HD4870 just sitting here in a box, just slightly used, and very much lazily doing nothing :( ... lol

But the new HD4850 with Zalman fan clocked at 725 MHz is doing OK so far...
1189) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 14144)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
dog
1190) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 x 4870s or 4870X2 (Message 14143)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My biggest problem is keeping the GPU working. :(

And sadly, UCB seems to be slow rolling the issue of the ATI GPU ...

I don't think I care much about what UCB smoke slowly rolled.

I'm just glad that the people who worked hard to bring optimization to MilkyWay, GPU or otherwise, didn't smoke that stuff :P
1191) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 14129)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Improbability of my RAC reaching 83,000 is falling, but normality has not yet been achieved...

Your not very probable then...RAC: 84,355...

I think I was getting my double negatives mixed - improbability falling ;)

Ho hum. 85,000 and still rising...

Slowing down, need more GPU's to get it going again. You're not gonna hit 300k RAC at this measily pace.

I'm on it boss. That HD4850 with Zalman fan is arriving tomorrow.... :P

Ho hum. Still a ways for you to go.

The 4850 with Zalman fan is installed and running. The overclock takes it right up to 750Mhz - the highest the ATI Overdrive program will go :P

Just waiting for the postman with my riser so I can shoe-horn the 4870 into the other PC...
1192) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14128)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I guess it'd save time if you've joined them all. Has it saved you any? Seems like the opposite.

Here's some site name ideas for your next venture: zspit., zhernia., zslipping., zwasteoftime.
:P

As I previously mentioned, I got the zslip sites for an invention I had/have in mind, but turned over the sites to MilkyWay science (not the invention, just use of the sites). zsling initially was to get the most images/links in a BOINC project signature - I have 6 images and 5 links in my MilkyWay signature, which, as you know is restricted to 250 characters. Now, is that optimization or what :P

I find my IC3 toolbar (previously known as the 'brilliant' toolbar taking the name from my www.brilliantsite.com site) is extremely useful. But I don't want to, or it's not convenient, to install it on whichever PC I'm using, eg in an internet cafe it's not possible to install anything.

So finally I got round to putting the links on a web page, easily accessible with it's own dot com - www.zsling.com - to sling me to wherever I want to be ;)

It's available for anyone to use. Free, no adverts, no viruses, no adware - whatever goes with a straight forward web wage.


Yes it's a nice setup and nice to share it. Just having fun. ;P

There is an entertaiment pull-down menu at the top on the right ;)
1193) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14115)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am reproducing part of the 'readme.txt' file that comes with 0.19d so that I can remove the proviso on zslip about Cataylst 9.2 not working;

Note on Catalyst 9.2:

ATI/AMD renamed the CAL libraries with the latest driver release. To get the GPU app running,
duplicate the following files in your Windows\system32 folder (the suffix "64" applies only to
64Bit systems):

aticalrt.dll or aticalrt64.dll
aticalcl.dll or aticalcl64.dll
aticaldd.dll or aticaldd64.dll

Now Rename the copies to

amdcalrt.dll or amdcalrt64.dll
amdcalcl.dll or amdcalcl64.dll
amdcaldd.dll or amdcaldd64.dll

You should have now 6 dll files in your Windows\system32 folder, 3 named amdcal*.dll and 3 with
the name atical*.dll. A simple rename of atical*.dll to amdcal*.dll is not sufficient!


[edit] zslip has been updated.
1194) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 14111)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
0.19d is floating around already (it is usable, even on a multi GPU setup, it just doesn't use multiple GPUs to the full extent). So if Ice wants he can put it on zslip. He has it already.


0.19d is now on zslip - thanks Cluster Physik.

Maybe it would be better to advertise it with "lower CPU load" and not multi GPU, as this is not really working.

OK - done
1195) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 14107)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

0.19d is now on zslip


1196) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimized OS X Applications (Message 14104)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Of course we are interested ...


Me too :)


and me :)

If I knew what they were I'm sure I would be ;)
1197) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 14102)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
0.19d is floating around already (it is usable, even on a multi GPU setup, it just doesn't use multiple GPUs to the full extent). So if Ice wants he can put it on zslip. He has it already.


0.19d is now on zslip - thanks Cluster Physik.
1198) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 14099)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Be sure to read the included readme.txt!

I read it

Code: Gipsel
Test: HiRN, Emploi and a lot of other people of Team Planet3DNow!, www.planet3dnow.de

Thanks guys and gals! Much appreciated.
1199) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14097)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
but it's a Dell...

Say no more ;) LOL

Actually, mine is also in a Dell. It's the only full sized tower with PCI-E that I have, and has the highest PSU wattage (probably not highly rated enough) - my HD4870 is crunching away in there.
1200) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 x 4870s or 4870X2 (Message 14092)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I don't know if this helps you much, but my HD4870 PC is on an average credit of 43,760 - the HD4850 is 37,960

They are not identical PCs running for identical times etc, but the HD4850 card was fitted first and the output from the HD4870 is higher even though it started later.
1201) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 14091)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm getting a 3870 to help crunch on a Vista 64 machine. Do I have to use optimized apps in order to use the gpu, or is it done automatically? Also, if I need to use optimized apps, how do I go about it? Depending on how many WU a 3870 can crunch at a time, I may get another 3870 to crunch on another machine.


This might help. Remember, only the 8.12 or 9.1 drivers work - don't use the later 9.2 (9.1 drivers never worked for me)
1202) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14088)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I guess it'd save time if you've joined them all. Has it saved you any? Seems like the opposite.

Here's some site name ideas for your next venture: zspit., zhernia., zslipping., zwasteoftime.
:P

As I previously mentioned, I got the zslip sites for an invention I had/have in mind, but turned over the sites to MilkyWay science (not the invention, just use of the sites). zsling initially was to get the most images/links in a BOINC project signature - I have 6 images and 5 links in my MilkyWay signature, which, as you know is restricted to 250 characters. Now, is that optimization or what :P

I find my IC3 toolbar (previously known as the 'brilliant' toolbar taking the name from my www.brilliantsite.com site) is extremely useful. But I don't want to, or it's not convenient, to install it on whichever PC I'm using, eg in an internet cafe it's not possible to install anything.

So finally I got round to putting the links on a web page, easily accessible with it's own dot com - www.zsling.com - to sling me to wherever I want to be ;)

It's available for anyone to use. Free, no adverts, no viruses, no adware - whatever goes with a straight forward web wage.

1203) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14086)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've made a web page based on a toolbar that I've been developing over the years. It's full of BOINC related links and other useful links which you are welcomed to use.

This is my first cut and hopefully I will develop and improve it over time.

http://zsling.com

And pretty soon it will earn you credits!

No credits, no viruses, no adware - this is a straight forward simple web page ;)
1204) Message boards : Number crunching : Hello, sorry about this WU (Message 14085)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm afraid my computer would not crunch it

3/5/2009 5:11:04 PM|Milkyway@home|Computation for task ps_s79_10_6807_1235779573_1 finished

My computers get tired sometimes. Commiserations.
1205) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Yeah! Go petros! UOTD!! (Message 14083)
Posted 6 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well done that dude!

1206) Message boards : Number crunching : zsling.com - BOINC links (Message 14038)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've made a web page based on a toolbar that I've been developing over the years. It's full of BOINC related links and other useful links which you are welcomed to use.

This is my first cut and hopefully I will develop and improve it over time.

http://zsling.com
1207) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : become a writer of programs... (Message 14035)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Part of my job is to take support calls, but I don't want to do that. If the user can't figure it out, screw 'em.

:D
1208) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 14031)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

1209) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 14017)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I have been running v .17 is there any benefit in spending the time to upgrade to 19 or 19b -

I also do not see a download on zslip for anything more recent that 19b... isn't there a 19d ?

0.19d is still under develpment/test for multi-GPUs. I can't say about 0.17 v 0.19/b
1210) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU app 19b (and earlier) trash all tasks on re-boot WIn-64 (Message 14015)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The latest ATI driver 9-2_vista64_dd_75977.exe is installed

The latest version 9.2 does not work as-is with the optimised apps.

Try versions 9.1 or 8.12. Mine never worked with XP 9.1, but did with XP 8.12
1211) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 x 4870s or 4870X2 (Message 14003)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've heard of one person using a 4870x2

That would be me.

Yes I know. I'm forever behind you chasing you up the top 20 now ;)
1212) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 13997)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



1213) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 x 4870s or 4870X2 (Message 13996)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
0.19d: 26th Feb 2009
- multi GPU support (still experimental, can be turned off by exclusion of all but one GPUs in
app_info.xml)
- release of the CPU during GPU calculations, CPU load down to ~10% of one core or less

0.19c: 25th Feb 2009
- multi GPU and CPU release test, limited publication
- added support for command line options (GPU choice, CPU release, max number of WUs in flight)

For what it's worth, I ran with 0.19d for a few days on an HD4850 and a HD4870 with no problems, not that I needed the multi GPU support, but reverted back to 0.19b yesterday after which I managed to get MW crunching alongside CPDN again.

[edit]Now that 0.19d has been announced, I can tell you that the sub-one minute WU in my profile was crunched with 0.19d, and I will put the "d" back in it accordingly.
1214) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13992)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Improbability of my RAC reaching 83,000 is falling, but normality has not yet been achieved...

Your not very probable then...RAC: 84,355...

I think I was getting my double negatives mixed - improbability falling ;)

Ho hum. 85,000 and still rising...

Slowing down, need more GPU's to get it going again. You're not gonna hit 300k RAC at this measily pace.

I'm on it boss. That HD4850 with Zalman fan is arriving tomorrow.... :P
1215) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13987)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Come on speedimic, you're missing the fun :P


ATM I'm missing the money...
Just got my '83 BMW M3 out of winter sleep - gotta invest in fuel now. ;-)

Awww, and there's me forgoing the lens I've been lusting for to buy plastic bricks that can't even autofocus :~p
1216) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 x 4870s or 4870X2 (Message 13985)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... is anyone running a pair of 4870s (non-crossfire) or a 4870X2 with the GPU App?

If so - any benefits?

P.

I've heard of one person using a 4870x2, but so far the optimized app is only making use of one side. I think it's likely that someone, somewhere is testing an app that will make use of both sides, and maybe even crossfire. If so, I hope they tell me when they do and get it working so that I can add it to zslip ;)

Not heard of anyone using crossfire yet, or even two cards (non-crossfire) in the same box.
1217) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13982)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
BTW, one of the FTL ships in Adams books was called "Heart of Gold" ;^)

Some good observations there Lloyd, and yes this thread is based on that very Heart of Gold, with the Infinite Improbability Drive, stolen by Zaphod Beeblebrox whose photo I added in my last post.

Improbability of my RAC reaching 83,000 is falling, but normality has not yet been achieved...

Your not very probable then...RAC: 84,355...

I think I was getting my double negatives mixed - improbability falling ;)

Ho hum. 85,000 and still rising...
1218) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13981)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

LOL, haven't even gotten round getting me a ati/nvidia card...

The development of apps for GPU is really quite recent. If I recall, it is less than 6 weeks or so when there was talk about ATI being faster than nvidia, and someone ought to develop an app based on the ATI cards...

Come on speedimic, you're missing the fun :P
1219) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunchoff MW vs SETI (Message 13978)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Got up this morning and the box that was running SETI had crashed...

Blue Screen of DEATH!!!

Enough said, MW wins ;)

But really, sorry to hear that, hope you fix the PC. It would be nice to know the results even with what you have. Even better if you can carry on.
1220) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13965)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi
I heard u can told how many WU to calculate in the same time.

I've look in many thread, but i can't clearly find an answer

Because With opti, when i have 16 Wu at the same time, sometimes i have error.

I'd like calculate 8.

Thx a lot

It would be useful to provide a bit more info. What was the error message? Is this on a core 4? Windows or Linux? Optimized apps or GPU optimized apps? How often do you get the error? A bit more information and somebody might be able to help.
1221) Message boards : Number crunching : Relative GPU Crunching Speeds (Message 13961)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Does CPU speed matter when running Gpu app?
Does 1 to 4 cpu cores make any difference while running Gpu app?

I don't think CPU speed makes any material difference to crunching with ATI GPU. The crunching is done with the GPU with just a fraction work done by the CPU.

If I have 4 GPU WUs crunching at once, or 2 at once, it makes no diffrence - I get the same throughput of MU WUs. I'm using a HD4850 and a HD4870 and the same applies, although I am not using your version of BOINC and maybe a different version of 0.19, so what works for you may be different for me.
1222) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13958)
Posted 5 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
BTW, one of the FTL ships in Adams books was called "Heart of Gold" ;^)

Some good observations there Lloyd, and yes this thread is based on that very Heart of Gold, with the Infinite Improbability Drive, stolen by Zaphod Beeblebrox whose photo I added in my last post.

Improbability of my RAC reaching 83,000 is falling, but normality has not yet been achieved...
1223) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13902)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The red wine that killed the laptop doesn't count - drinking and surfing in bed isn't usually required with anti-static mats :P

Need to lay off the juice. :P

Actually, it wasn't wine, it was port. It was a while back when I was in bed with a snapped Achilles’ tendon. When I tried to navigate out of bed past the tray holding the laptop and port...

It was a new laptop, not even a week old. I hobbled to the shop with crutches and helper. They confirmed the motherboard was zapped, and gave me a new laptop. Luckily the warranty covered accidental spillages.
1224) Message boards : Number crunching : Relative GPU Crunching Speeds (Message 13897)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been a BAD BOY and just purchased an ASUS EAH4850 w 512MB DDR3 RAM for A$243 (US$155). I'll install it tonight and see what happens.

My ASUS EAH4870 claims to have the "Worlds's Fastest DDR5 Memory". Now how fast is that?

I already installed it and it's 'fast'.

I hope that isn't the triple fan card. Those are ugly.

Only one fan, but it's BIG. It's very pretty, and would look good dangling from the interior mirror in my car, but unfortunately it's hidden by a computer case.

LOL...there is a line there, but I'm afraid it would be taken out of context. Dang this internet thingy....

Hmmmmm, this internet thingy is very useful actually. I'm thinking about buying another HD4850 - with Zalman fan. It's a BIG fan and comes with a clock speed of 700 MHz. Hmmmmmm, that should get me flying again...

Only one minor problem. There is no way I can fit a brick into my Small Form Factor with the CPU right behind the PCI-E slot. But then, I fitted a Sapphire brick into my other SFF... where's my hammer?...
1225) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13894)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Misfit wrote:
Leaving something plugged in and grounding yourself at the same time... might as well work on your car battery while standing barefoot on your concrete garage floor.


Except that there's no HV around unless the PSU has failed and grounded to its case, or you open the PSU, or you have a HV water pump that somehow has exposed leads, etc.

Ice wrote:
To do it 'properly', you would place your PC on an anti-static mat, replace power lead with a lead prupose built lead which connects only the ground with to the PC (or attach PC to a ground point), use an anti-static wristband (to ground you) with other end attached to the PC (which is now grounded), touch a bare metal part of the PC case before you start, to discharge any static you may have, and be carful not to unecessarilly touch any electrical circuits anyway.


Which is essentially what I was suggesting, less the antistatic mat, which is of course a good idea as well.

I'm glad we would both suggest the same thing. But then it must be a few years since I used an anti-static mat, or wrist strap, or grounded a PC - but I've never lost a component yet, and like to think I know what I'm doing (touch wood).

Mind you, there was that SIMM that died with that scorch mark in the RAM socket which killed the motherboard... The red wine that killed the laptop doesn't count - drinking and surfing in bed isn't usually required with anti-static mats :P
1226) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13889)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
.

My MilkWay credit total is now double that of my SETI.
My MW RAC is now 78,000 and rising, but normality has not yet been achieved...
1227) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13887)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
77K still isn't cutting it.

Nope. Those above me keep climbing. Maybe they'll stop for a cup of tea soon.

Would that be Ice'd tea?

Now there's an idea - cool them down while I sneak past 'em :P

You need a fire hose, cause one glass isn't going to help. :P

You are absolutely right. Maybe I should stop taking these tea breaks...
1228) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13877)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Someone needs to design the stand alone GPU BOINC board. It's just a rudementary OS and BOINC stored on a flash chip and several onboard GPUs. The new revolution in "farming".

Check out this bad boy - multiple nVidia GPUs, but no graphics ports. You just set up one or more of these and one graphics card (or on-board graphics) so you can see what's going on. nVidia has some reference systems specified, where you run three (or even FOUR!) of those monsters (C1060 "Tesla" GPUs) on the same mobo. Or, one can buy a box already configured.

Well watching that video all I need is $10K in throw away money and I can tell Ice to BEAT THAT!

Looks like you need an nVidia chipset too

Well! That core clock speed is certainly impressive, as is the price! It appears to be an infinite probability decison - that nVidia, or two brand new PCs with an ATI HD4870 in each - which would give more creditability? :p

As for;

The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...

The infinite credit drive is achieving even more optimization; 61,000 RAC... and rising...


Keep going...

I woke up to 72,000+ ... It's a strange dream I'm having here...

77K still isn't cutting it.

Nope. Those above me keep climbing. Maybe they'll stop for a cup of tea soon.

Would that be Ice'd tea?

Now there's an idea - cool them down while I sneak past 'em :P
1229) Message boards : Number crunching : Relative GPU Crunching Speeds (Message 13871)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been a BAD BOY and just purchased an ASUS EAH4850 w 512MB DDR3 RAM for A$243 (US$155). I'll install it tonight and see what happens.

My ASUS EAH4870 claims to have the "Worlds's Fastest DDR5 Memory". Now how fast is that?

I already installed it and it's 'fast'.

I hope that isn't the triple fan card. Those are ugly.

Only one fan, but it's BIG. It's very pretty, and would look good dangling from the interior mirror in my car, but unfortunately it's hidden by a computer case.
1230) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13870)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Someone needs to design the stand alone GPU BOINC board. It's just a rudementary OS and BOINC stored on a flash chip and several onboard GPUs. The new revolution in "farming".

Check out this bad boy - multiple nVidia GPUs, but no graphics ports. You just set up one or more of these and one graphics card (or on-board graphics) so you can see what's going on. nVidia has some reference systems specified, where you run three (or even FOUR!) of those monsters (C1060 "Tesla" GPUs) on the same mobo. Or, one can buy a box already configured.

Well watching that video all I need is $10K in throw away money and I can tell Ice to BEAT THAT!

Looks like you need an nVidia chipset too

Well! That core clock speed is certainly impressive, as is the price! It appears to be an infinite probability decison - that nVidia, or two brand new PCs with an ATI HD4870 in each - which would give more creditability? :p

As for;

The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...

The infinite credit drive is achieving even more optimization; 61,000 RAC... and rising...


Keep going...

I woke up to 72,000+ ... It's a strange dream I'm having here...

77K still isn't cutting it.

Nope. Those above me keep climbing. Maybe they'll stop for a cup of tea soon.
1231) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13868)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Naaaa, BOINC isn't a word, but 'Join Team England' are certainly 3 words :P

So have you all Joined BOINC Synergy yet?

I feel like the cow tho.

Become one with the cow.

The cow far predates BOINC for distributed computing.

I predate distributed computing by far.

Anyone here predate computing? ;)

Must be me. I can remember using log tables and slide rules before Bill Gates even invented MS-DOS.

Oh dear, I remember those from school, too! Although by the time I hit the real world, calculators were around.

Hmm, that reminds me of an old mechanical Facit calculator I played around with. Wonder how it would crunch? Assuming you could find someone who could still use it!

Ice, your a relic! ;P.
I'm older than Boinc, but have never used a slide rule, though I have one. I have a DOS pc. Some of the best games on it.

I had one of those mechanical calculators. It was called a Babbage Analytical Engine.
1232) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13861)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I could have sworn I seen a post by somebody saying they got some app to work in Linux but could be mistaken, anywho I didn't pay attention when I downloaded the Linux App, just thought it was for running the ATI Cards ... :)

There are certainly optimized apps for Linux by speedimic, but I don't think he's gotten round to ATI GPU, but I don't have Linux myself and I really don't know.
1233) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13850)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

knockers
1234) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 13848)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I guess I should not complain about only being able to do about 15 GPU Grid tasks a day on one of my systems ... :)

As to the credit caps, Milky Way is one of the only projects that I can think of that has ever had a credit cap ... SaH had one once if I recall correctly ... generally though they are set so high that only a few people run into those caps ... and if they run more than one project that is even very unlikely ...

Heck, I am having a hard time keeping my one ATI card supplied and running 24/7 ... though that is more likely the fault of the BOINC Manager than anything else ...

No, I think it's more like the fault of SaH. OK, Misfit then :P

I've heard a rumour about a version of BOINC that is optimum for GPU. I've been moving away from 5.10.45 since I got into GPU and it's been quite fun to experiment with different versions and drivers, and to watch as the optimizing/GPU development has been going on.
1235) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 13846)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Seems he gets max amount everyday the same as with his 280 GTX cards
No increase in points a day thats what he told me not sure if he runs ps3grid.
He told me there is a limit on points on the projects or with boinc.
I cant confirm any of it since i dont have such materials i am just a poor boy running boinc for fun :)

ps cant ask him yet he is on holiday not returned yet

I'm running PS3GRID, or GPUGRID as it's now known, and have one big complaint about limits. I'm limited to just one on-board GPU that can run it, and it should be twice as fast ;)
1236) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13845)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I tried to get ATI Card to run the Milkyway WU's on the Linux side of a Dual Boot Windows/Linux Box but so far no luck. I installed the Linux 8.12 Drivers or at least I thought I did because everything seemed to go alright & the ATI Counsel showed up. I did it from the Terminal because when I tried to install them from a Counsel I got a error message saying something about a wrong ID.

Anyway the Milkyway WU's run but Dog Slow at best, about 30 min's Per WU so I'm assuming something isn't right & their not running on the ATI Card but the CPU side instead ... So I booted back into Windows until I can get it figured out, any ideas on whats wrong would be helpful ...

If you take a look at zslip you will see that the ATI cards and the optimization files made available for MilkyWay are only available to Windows 32 and 64 bit. No mention of it working for Linux, and none that I have heard about.
1237) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13843)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What you mean my old cpm machine or you mean the one which used pons-cards
a kinda telex like device :D
which could count 1 + 1 or 2 + 2 xD

A brain is a computer, so anyone without a brain. Like I said, Bill Gates introduced MS-DOS...
1238) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13842)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

controls
1239) Message boards : Number crunching : The Great Crunchoff Grandstand (Message 13836)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

It makes me wonder where it leaves all those claiming that no project awards higher than SETI. And well done Travis for a good credit pitch.


Here's some info for you: Not all CPU/OS combinations give the same results.




The SETI version is the optimized AK version; the MW is also supposed to be optimized. This comparison is why I put my Intel Macs back on SETI full time - it's a waste of my time and electric bill to run MW at these credit levels.

C

The OS X application doesn't seem to be hugely optimized. I'm going to take a crack at it in the coming days.

I'm glad that it's not just a case of which is better, but running tests like this to see if improvements can be made for MilkyWay.
1240) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13835)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OR unplug it then hold the power button down. That will drain what is left in the system. Ground yourself beforehand so you don't discharge any static electricity into your components.

Leaving something plugged in and grounding yourself at the same time... might as well work on your car battery while standing barefoot on your concrete garage floor.

To do it 'properly', you would place your PC on an anti-static mat, replace power lead with a lead prupose built lead which connects only the ground with to the PC (or attach PC to a ground point), use an anti-static wristband (to ground you) with other end attached to the PC (which is now grounded), touch a bare metal part of the PC case before you start, to discharge any static you may have, and be carful not to unecessarilly touch any electrical circuits anyway.

Or, open up the PC and be absolutely sure not to touch anything that could be killed with static that you may have picked up from the carpet. Static shock must be 3500 to 4000 volts before you can feel it, but integrated circuits can be damaged or destroyed by static voltages as low as 400 volts.
1241) Message boards : Number crunching : Relative GPU Crunching Speeds (Message 13834)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been a BAD BOY and just purchased an ASUS EAH4850 w 512MB DDR3 RAM for A$243 (US$155). I'll install it tonight and see what happens.

My ASUS EAH4870 claims to have the "Worlds's Fastest DDR5 Memory". Now how fast is that?

I already installed it and it's 'fast'.
1242) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13833)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Someone needs to design the stand alone GPU BOINC board. It's just a rudementary OS and BOINC stored on a flash chip and several onboard GPUs. The new revolution in "farming".

Check out this bad boy - multiple nVidia GPUs, but no graphics ports. You just set up one or more of these and one graphics card (or on-board graphics) so you can see what's going on. nVidia has some reference systems specified, where you run three (or even FOUR!) of those monsters (C1060 "Tesla" GPUs) on the same mobo. Or, one can buy a box already configured.

Well watching that video all I need is $10K in throw away money and I can tell Ice to BEAT THAT!

Looks like you need an nVidia chipset too

Well! That core clock speed is certainly impressive, as is the price! It appears to be an infinite probability decison - that nVidia, or two brand new PCs with an ATI HD4870 in each - which would give more creditability? :p

As for;

The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...

The infinite credit drive is achieving even more optimization; 61,000 RAC... and rising...


Keep going...

I woke up to 72,000+ ... It's a strange dream I'm having here...
1243) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13832)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Naaaa, BOINC isn't a word, but 'Join Team England' are certainly 3 words :P

So have you all Joined BOINC Synergy yet?

I feel like the cow tho.

Become one with the cow.

The cow far predates BOINC for distributed computing.

I predate distributed computing by far.

Anyone here predate computing? ;)

Must be me. I can remember using log tables and slide rules before Bill Gates even invented MS-DOS.
1244) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13831)
Posted 4 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

optimization
1245) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13800)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
First I had a nVidia 8800GTS512 installed, then an ATI 4850. And I changed them a few times. It's just a shutdown, change the cards and start again. Yes, it works ;-)


Not always ...

There are times that Windows XP will "forget" that the drivers have been installed on switching cards and require you to reinstall the drivers. As always ... YMMV ... if it works for you, that is cool ... but it does not work always ... my experience has been that if you change cards back and forth you will be reinstalling the drivers each iteration.

It's the same with USB devices like external hard disks, keyboards, mice - you often seem them reinstall when plugging back in. Almost certainly if they are plugged back into different a USB port.
1246) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13773)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've never tried it but I wonder if you could install NVidia Drivers with a NVidia Card installed & then shut the PC down & pull the NVidia Card. Then put a ATI Card in & start back up & install the ATI Drivers.

Once that was done if you could flip flop Video Cards as you wish & have them work without un-installing & re-installing the proper Video Card Drivers all the Time ???

I don't know the answer to that, but I would be cautious with that flip flopping. These cards are quite expensive and delicate and I imagine could be physically damaged or killed with static, which would not be very nice.
1247) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13770)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The infinite credit drive is achieving even more optimization; 61,000 RAC... and rising...


You got a ways to go to catch Campaign's 248k RAC. Your only 28th. Quit being lazy. :P

Don't worry, I've turned a couple of rust buckets back on in my garage, from my ex 'farm'. I wanted to make it four, but the other two won't respond any more, their life of BOINC toil over. The big push for 248k RAC is on ;P
1248) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13769)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ofcourse i cant compete with a whole team but i do very well single :)
Mainly on one machine the laptop is not really build for running boinc ;)

I'm sure I couldn't compete with a whole team, so I joined one ;) And they even made me an administrator :D

I have 3 words for you. (Look below.)


"look below" is only 2 words!!!



I believe he ment look below in his signature: "Join BOINC Synergy!"

Naaaa, BOINC isn't a word, but 'Join Team England' are certainly 3 words :P
1249) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13759)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Misfit wrote:
ATI is well known for releasing faulty drivers and following up with hotfixes (some of which are also faulty). It's the reason after all these years as an ATI customer I switched to nVidia. They might not be as powerful but at least their stuff works.

Pretty much the reason I never even started buying ATI, though I'm seriously considering a 4870 so I can do some serious MW crunching.

I don't have a GPU card but i've been told that if I want to install one I'm best putting an ATI one in rather than NVIDIA as I already have the ATI drivers. Is this correct?

No, you ought to use the cards(s) that you want and should be able to use the drivers that come with it, or find them on the 'net. Most device manufacturers have sites for driver downloads. Already having ATI drivers on your system should not cause problems with a nVidia installation.
1250) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13748)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I had both HD4850 and HD4870 running with 8.12, and am now running 9.2 with both successfully (ummmmm, 9.2 doesn't work, it says so on zslip ;)


Hmm, which is right, Ice or his site? :) I'm sure you GPU crunchers are just trying to put the rest of us off buying the cards until your credits are too high for us to reach :)

Probably both.

That's absolutely right. What Paul D. Buck said, and; zslip has an advice not to use 9.2 rather that an order (you can use what you like, don't look at zslip even ;) There are problems with using 9.2 such as ATI/AMD screwing up naming conventions in change over in brand name affecting naming of system files, and probably other issues I don't understand, since I'm not as clever as the guys and gals testing 9.2 ;)

I decided to give it a try and am always poised to revert back to 9.1...
1251) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13747)
Posted 3 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Someone needs to design the stand alone GPU BOINC board. It's just a rudementary OS and BOINC stored on a flash chip and several onboard GPUs. The new revolution in "farming".

Check out this bad boy - multiple nVidia GPUs, but no graphics ports. You just set up one or more of these and one graphics card (or on-board graphics) so you can see what's going on. nVidia has some reference systems specified, where you run three (or even FOUR!) of those monsters (C1060 "Tesla" GPUs) on the same mobo. Or, one can buy a box already configured.

Well watching that video all I need is $10K in throw away money and I can tell Ice to BEAT THAT!

Looks like you need an nVidia chipset too

Well! That core clock speed is certainly impressive, as is the price! It appears to be an infinite probability decison - that nVidia, or two brand new PCs with an ATI HD4870 in each - which would give more creditability? :p

As for;

The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...

The infinite credit drive is achieving even more optimization; 61,000 RAC... and rising...

1252) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : How does this work? (Message 13691)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Maybe someone could tell me exactly what we are suppose to be accomplishing here, as how I ended up here was a website called makeuseof.com was saying you could help with the war on cancer by letting these projects use your computer, but after I signed up, I never could find any of the cancer projects, so I ended up here???? Could someone please explain what all of this is about, I am just a simple fellow trying to help, thank you.

These links might be able to help;



1253) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13688)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...

Almost at my total for your rac.

Oh gosh, so it is. Won't be too long before my RAC equals your total, then we'll be twins :P

Keep going...

I am. It'd be interesting to see how far I can get...


Don't stop. It sure drops fast when not crunching here. In 2 weeks ~410 to 113.

Oh, I'm going to have to stop when I go for my hols shortly. I must admit I get very tempted to crunch nothing but MW to push it as far as I can. But then I want my Climate credits above the million at some time.
1254) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13687)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm running 3&3 3 MWay's & 3 Regular Wu's and getting 85,000-90,000 Per Day from 1 Card (4870 512mb with no Overclocking) ...


That's crazy. :P It puts my 1 pc to shame. In 2 days you can put out more than my overall total, I did ~50k all of last year. I need a Gpu...(sigh).

It's still about contributing what you can/want. Even with GPU, both ATI and nVidia, I'm still crunching the old fashioned way with actual computers and laptop ;P
1255) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13686)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

PS:
I still don't get why people raise the number of concurrent WUs. Two are really enough for maximum efficiency. So even taking the start/finishing of WUs into account, you will never need more than 3 WUs (default value) for maximum efficiency of the GPU. It would be better for the throughput, if you lower the wait factor closer to 1. Or are you just trying to avoid the eviction of WUs by the boinc manager?

I don't understand the settings in the BOINC parameters, something to get into at some time, but I may have a tip that may work for others. I'm trying to get MW to run with another task, eg, CPDN, but usually 4 MW are running on their own. Not efficient as you pointed out Cluster Physik.

So what I do is put MW on suspend, two CPDN tasks run (I'm hyper-threading). Then I resume the CPDN project. 4 MW tasks then 'freeze'. I then suspend one of the CPDN tasks and have two MW and one CPDN crunching away nicely.

When things don't look right, exit the BOINC manager and restart it - that usually sorts it out for me.
1256) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13682)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Try the 8.12 Drivers instead ... If that doesn't work try BOINC Client v6.5.0

Definitely try the the 8.12 drivers. I couldn't get the 9.1 drivers to work with my HD4850 when I first tried to install it and had instant success with 8.12.

I'd also recommend BOINC 6.4.6 - I have that running with my HD4850 now and it seems to be purring away nicely, although it also ran fine with 6.4.5.

ATI is well known for releasing faulty drivers and following up with hotfixes (some of which are also faulty). It's the reason after all these years as an ATI customer I switched to nVidia. They might not be as powerful but at least their stuff works.

We're lucky to have Cluster Physik and his team to test and recommend which drivers, although, as I say, I couldn't get the 9.1 drivers to work, even with my HD4870. I had both HD4850 and HD4870 running with 8.12, and am now running 9.2 with both successfully (ummmmm, 9.2 doesn't work, it says so on zslip ;)
1257) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13681)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...

Almost at my total for your rac.

Oh gosh, so it is. Won't be too long before my RAC equals your total, then we'll be twins :P

Keep going...

I am. It'd be interesting to see how far I can get...
1258) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13652)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
6.4.6 was pulled because of the corrupted installer issue.

6.4.7 should be out soon.

That's interesting. I have 6.4.6 installed and working just fine on two of my PCs.
1259) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13644)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...


Almost at my total for your rac.

Oh gosh, so it is. Won't be too long before my RAC equals your total, then we'll be twins :P
1260) Message boards : Number crunching : ATI help please. (Message 13642)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Try the 8.12 Drivers instead ... If that doesn't work try BOINC Client v6.5.0

Definitely try the the 8.12 drivers. I couldn't get the 9.1 drivers to work with my HD4850 when I first tried to install it and had instant success with 8.12.

I'd also recommend BOINC 6.4.6 - I have that running with my HD4850 now and it seems to be purring away nicely, although it also ran fine with 6.4.5.
1261) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 13615)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The infinite credit drive is achieving optimization; 50,000 RAC... and rising...
1262) Message boards : Number crunching : Ready to start - forever... (Message 13614)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Completing a CPDN model remains an achievement. At least I think so. I finished one yesterday and have another finishing today - it's like a smile after a long slog. If they do something with it so that they complete in a blink of an eye - it just won't be the same ;)


Yeah, I just completed a couple my self ... on one system I already had another lined up so I took it over suspend. The other system I have to wait till it will go get one ...

I do what I call 'PC hopping'. I occaisionally have access to a PC, say for a couple of weeks, eg if I'm on a course, and start a CPDN task on it. I then copy it off and continue it on another PC, and even another, and another perhaps. I use a technique whereby I don't install BOINC on the machines because of the temporary nature - just copy down the BOINC folder and run.

I have a few CPDN models queued waiting to finish. The one big danger is getting confused with which is the latest copy and crunching the same model again, and again ;)
1263) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 13611)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
a little to the right...

Ice went skydiving.

Ha ha ha. I nearly did a parachute jump in Arizona when I was there one time. We started the training (I watched some videos on what to do) and then they said the wind was too hign. Carry on training and hope for the wind to drop and come back another day if not, or take a refund and go.

It was a bit difficult to come back from England another day, but maybe another $100 another Arizona visit sometime... ;)
1264) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13608)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh shock horror, hooray :D I've got Catalyst 9.2 working.

[edit] with a HD4870 / 0.19

A bit of a strange pattern of crunching at first and then when I tried to run a CPDN WU the 4 MW just froze. I then suspended one of them and the other 3 set off working. Now it's settled down to a pattern of 2 MW WU's crunching every 40ish seconds and a CPDN WU crunching away every 436 hours.

I think that's slower that using using version 9.1 (not referring to CPDN), but then I'm not sure how long these new WUs take now.

I took it back to 9.1 and the 8.12 and with both it seemed slower than 9.2. I think it's these longer work units which I haven't baselined for myself yet.

I've taken it back to 9.2 and it's been running overnight just fine with what seems to be good performance. It just seemed to take a little while to settle downn - a CPDN WU is crunching alongside 3 MW WUs nicely, all running with BOINC 6.4.6 (XP pro).
1265) Message boards : Number crunching : Ready to start - forever... (Message 13607)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You can now crunch climate on CUDA?

SaH ... I could not get climate to run back then ... hence SaH, now SaH can be run in moments instead of hours to days ...

Sorry, I didn't read it right. I thought you were talking about climate, raced over to the climate forums and decided they were hiding it from me

[edit] Sure SaH can do it in moments, but I expect they still don't hear the aliens...


CPDN I don't expect to ever see in CUDA or any other GPU anytime soon as the basic model code is FORTRAN and is not owned by the project (unless that has changed in the last year or so).

Completing a CPDN model remains an achievement. At least I think so. I finished one yesterday and have another finishing today - it's like a smile after a long slog. If they do something with it so that they complete in a blink of an eye - it just won't be the same ;)

1266) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13577)
Posted 2 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh shock horror, hooray :D I've got Catalyst 9.2 working.

[edit] with a HD4870 / 0.19

A bit of a strange pattern of crunching at first and then when I tried to run a CPDN WU the 4 MW just froze. I then suspended one of them and the other 3 set off working. Now it's settled down to a pattern of 2 MW WU's crunching every 40ish seconds and a CPDN WU crunching away every 436 hours.

I think that's slower that using using version 9.1 (not referring to CPDN), but then I'm not sure how long these new WUs take now.
1267) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 13574)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I request something interesting be said in this thread.

I think you just said something interesting.

I'm just naturally interesting.

It must be why some people chase after me with adoring posts.

Yours is interesting too. It's the way that you said it ;)


I'd rather be
1268) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 13571)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh shock horror, hooray :D I've got Catalyst 9.2 working.

[edit] with a HD4870 / 0.19
1269) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 13569)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I request something interesting be said in this thread.


I think you just said something interesting.


Yes, that just typifies this thread. Boring, would send anyone to sleep.
1270) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 13566)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I request something interesting be said in this thread.


I think you just said something interesting.

I'm just naturally interesting.

It must be why some people chase after me with adoring posts.

Yours is intesting too. It's the way that you said it ;)
1271) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 13563)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I request something interesting be said in this thread.
1272) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13561)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


  • When I first attached to this project, I noticed that I sometimes had to suspend other projects to get it to load WUs (such as Renata/Neal mentioned). My thought was "...phooey on this!", so I jacked the resource share up to 10,000. Yes, you read that right. I've still had to do a manual update since then, but only once that I can recall.


I've had MilkyWay set to 10,000 resource share (99.01%) with CPDN to 100 (0.99%), and also MilkyWay 10000, GPUGRID 100, CPDN 100 - for the past 2 weeks plus.

I think you have been lucky, evil and mean if you havn't been pounding that 'update' button like the rest of us ;)
1273) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13559)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In fact, he warns about GPU overclocks, and I've seen similar warnings elsewhere concerning doing BOINC processing on your GPU.

I'm really glad you mentioned that. I've found my PC with GPU turned off 3 times over this w/e. I suspect it's cut off becuase of the GPU leaving the last MW WU with a computation error. Otherwise no other lost or bad WU's that I can see. I've now taken the GPU back to the default settings, also because ever-so-slightly faster than extrememly fast is not going to make that much of a difference I suspect.

I've now installed BOINC 6.4.6 on a Vista machine, which seems to be optimizing nicely.
1274) Message boards : Number crunching : Milkyway support OpenCL ? (Message 13558)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You mean, I watched that youutube, analyzed it thoroughly, and spent my entire Sunday deciding on how to word my question, and now I'm not going to get an answer? :/


It means that there is an OpenCL application that runs on the Nvidia hardware that makes pretty pictures on the display.

The only project that I can think of that MIGHT have a display of data like that (if I understand the goal of the project correctly) is Cosmology. Showing the formation of stars and galaxies.

On the other hand, it could be just a random pixel generation application as a technology demonstrator of the API as implemented by Nvidia.

The only other display like that as a screen saver is LHC, but the LHC SV does not show any science or results ... the only thing real on that image for LHC is the turn counter ...

I've been seeing that on my PC for years now. It's called 'Media player'.
1275) Message boards : Number crunching : Milkyway support OpenCL ? (Message 13557)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, but what does it all mean? :/

It means he's making the same post on many many projects without reading any threads.

You mean, I watched that youutube, analyzed it thoroughly, and spent my entire Sunday deciding on how to word my question, and now I'm not going to get an answer? :/

Something like that.

Core blimeee, that's a good pattern for a wallpaper...
1276) Message boards : Number crunching : Ready to start - forever... (Message 13555)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You can now crunch climate on CUDA?

SaH ... I could not get climate to run back then ... hence SaH, now SaH can be run in moments instead of hours to days ...

Sorry, I didn't read it right. I thought you were talking about climate, raced over to the climate forums and decided they were hiding it from me

[edit] Sure SaH can do it in moments, but I expect they still don't hear the aliens...
1277) Message boards : Number crunching : Ready to start - forever... (Message 13552)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think my first BBC Climate model, with a slower machine at the time, took well over 6 months to complete. Or was it 6 years? It certainly seemed like it at the time. Right now a bit quicker on a faster machine, CPU time 471:21:32, 00:58:17 to complete. Slightely different to "CPU time 00:00:03" here ;)


Back in that day I could not get them to run well enough to get anywhere ... so I stuck with SaH Classic which in that day took 33-40 hours to complete one task. Now I think there is 16-32 times more work done and the time can be down in a few hours time ... or on a CUDA, several minutes...

You can now crunch climate on CUDA?
1278) Message boards : Number crunching : Milkyway support OpenCL ? (Message 13546)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm going to be working on an OpenCL version the milkyway app... if that's your question. Although I'm not quite sure if there's an implementation of it out there yet.

Darn Travis, I am so impressed that you deciphered that morse code ;)
1279) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13545)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Milkyway is a no good project! Or, should I say a no good credit project. It is a project. It has good credit. There is no good credit where there is no work. Maybe we should all discuss the credits and the limits some more. What's the point if you can't get any work?


Dude, take a chill pill and set up some backup projects! It looks like I'm not having any problems, on multiple CPUs even. See my next message.

Aye, I with you there Lloyd. It's best to remember that this is a test project. Things sometimes don't go smoothly, or else it wouldn't be in an 'alpha' stage. Travis is working on it and things get better, worse, better, best, hotter, colder, up, down, round and round, left foot in, left out, shake it all about...

I'm now running on BOINC 6.4.6, hopefully things might get better for my GPUs and the world seem a more delightful place for me...

1280) Message boards : Number crunching : Milkyway support OpenCL ? (Message 13541)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, but what does it all mean? :/

It means he's making the same post on many many projects without reading any threads.

You mean, I watched that youutube, analyzed it thoroughly, and spent my entire Sunday deciding on how to word my question, and now I'm not going to get an answer? :/
1281) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13533)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've just updated my profile and added this;

This is one of the first recorded sub-one second MilkyWay WU's, crunched by me with a Sapphire HD4850;

Task ID 13212621
Name ps_s21_10_2105_1235836088_0
Workunit 12897484
Created 28 Feb 2009 15:48:11 UTC
Sent 28 Feb 2009 15:49:08 UTC
Received 28 Feb 2009 15:54:49 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 40322
Report deadline 3 Mar 2009 15:49:08 UTC
CPU time 0.59375
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.45</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Running Milkyway@home ATI GPU application version 0.19 by Gipsel
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 cores/threads) 2.79297 GHz (347ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.3.145
Found 1 CAL device

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 512 MB local RAM (remote 28 MB cached + 512 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 680 MHz, memory clock: 750 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue)
supporting double precision

0 WUs already running on GPU 0
Starting WU on GPU 0
Calculated about 1.85078e+012 floatingpoint ops on GPU, 6.18221e+007 on FPU.
Calculated about 8.03964e+008 floatingpoint ops on FPU (stars).
WU completed. It took 0.953125 seconds CPU time and 25.528 seconds wall clock time @ 2.79307 GHz.

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 0.00127383979304833
Granted credit 12.961071
application version 0.19

1282) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13528)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ofcourse i cant compete with a whole team but i do very well single :)
Mainly on one machine the laptop is not really build for running boinc ;)

I'm sure I couldn't compete with a whole team, so I joined one ;) And they even made me an administrator :D

I have 3 words for you. (Look below.)

Hahaha, synergy is always good ;)
1283) Message boards : Number crunching : Ready to start - forever... (Message 13508)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
(PS I'm impressed with your 1326 hours CPDN - I have a 473 hour due to finish today, a real short one ;)


It is a "Coupled" model and it is a slow machine. It is all the way down to 1320 hours to go now ...25.245% done ... after I got that one I turned off Coupled and now mostly get slabs ...

I think my first BBC Climate model, with a slower machine at the time, took well over 6 months to complete. Or was it 6 years? It certainly seemed like it at the time. Right now a bit quicker on a faster machine, CPU time 471:21:32, 00:58:17 to complete. Slightely different to "CPU time 00:00:03" here ;)
1284) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13495)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ofcourse i cant compete with a whole team but i do very well single :)
Mainly on one machine the laptop is not really build for running boinc ;)

I'm sure I couldn't compete with a whole team, so I joined one ;) And they even made me an administrator :D
1285) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU app 19b (and earlier) trash all tasks on re-boot WIn-64 (Message 13489)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Boinc is installed as service.
I stopped the service boinc, copied the 3 files brook.dll, astronomy_0.19_ATI_x64b.exe, app_info.xml
into D:\BOINC\DATA\projects\milkyway.cs.rpi.edu_milkyway
then restarted boinc.
------------------------
Does it exactly mean Boinc should no run as service ?

It's an option you get when you install Boinc - Install as service Y/N

It means do you want it to run (automatically) as a service, ie, initiated on Windows startup.
1286) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13486)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Now running out on ALL machines, GPU and CPU where before it was just the GPU.

Still not always giving out work though;

01/03/2009 16:42:54|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 880582 seconds of work, reporting 11 completed tasks
01/03/2009 16:42:56|Milkyway@home|Started upload of ps_s22_11_563115_1235925322_0_0
01/03/2009 16:42:58|Milkyway@home|Finished upload of ps_s22_11_563115_1235925322_0_0
01/03/2009 16:42:59|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
01/03/2009 16:43:14|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 880693 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
01/03/2009 16:43:19|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

1287) Message boards : Number crunching : new searches, ps_X_10 (Message 13479)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I've just knocked mine down a notch, just in case ;) Although I suspect my virus checker might have done something since I forgot to exclude it from my Boinc folder.


All your fault. Time to blame Ice! :P

I've taken it back to the defaults. It wasn't me, honest gov.
1288) Message boards : Number crunching : Milkyway support OpenCL ? (Message 13478)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1sN1ELJfNo&eurl=http://www.generation-3d.com/actualite-La-premiere-demo-OpenCL-sur-nVidia,ac14322.htm

@+
*_*

Yes, but what does it all mean? :/
1289) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13474)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hey now, some of the GPU apps are taking a whole 3 seconds.

Not really.
...<snip>...
Ice has posted already one result that took him mere 0.96 CPU seconds to crunch (but a bit more on the GPU of course).
...<snip>...
If you want we can skew the cpcs values (they are skewed anyway with GPU apps) on the stats sites with some creative timing ;)

Yes of course. I have a stopwatch on my mobile, not too accurate for timing but, prior to the increased length WU since yesterday, they were taking around 8 seconds GMT time.

As for the sub-second you quoted above - I caught one even quicker ;)

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 cores/threads) 2.79297 GHz (347ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.3.145
Found 1 CAL device

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 512 MB local RAM (remote 28 MB cached + 512 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 680 MHz, memory clock: 750 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue)
supporting double precision

0 WUs already running on GPU 0
Starting WU on GPU 0
Calculated about 1.85078e+012 floatingpoint ops on GPU, 6.18221e+007 on FPU.
Calculated about 8.03964e+008 floatingpoint ops on FPU (stars).
WU completed. It took 0.953125 seconds CPU time and 25.528 seconds wall clock time @ 2.79307 GHz.
1290) Message boards : Number crunching : new searches, ps_X_10 (Message 13471)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A couple of the GPU apps are just returning rubbish however, I'm not sure if this is because they're working on an unsupported card, or just because of settings or conflicts with other applications.

If it's started on an unsupported card, it should not report any result a all (only a compute error).

Can you relate these wrong results to a certain set of WUs or parameters, or are just some hosts (maybe overclocking their cards too much) reporting strange fitness values? The worst thing would be just random errors.


some hosts are returning really weird values... like positive 8s and 9s from one host, another is returning values in the +130-140 range.

So most likely just some too high clocked cards. I guess they will lower the clocks if they get consistently 0 credits for such results ;)

I've just knocked mine down a notch, just in case ;) Although I suspect my virus checker might have done something since I forgot to exclude it from my Boinc folder.
1291) Message boards : Number crunching : Ready to start - forever... (Message 13470)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
There are a couple projects that MAY be able to run tasks faster per unit time (optimized for the Power Mac architecture) but, they may also not be of interest to you ... :)

Oh for goodness sakes, I may not have an Mac, but I just can't take the suspense - please tell! :P

(PS I'm impressed with your 1326 hours CPDN - I have a 473 hour due to finish today, a real short one ;)
1292) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13462)
Posted 1 Mar 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And people thought my suggestion of 1 credit per second was too much.

People are always wrong about you
1293) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13360)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Should be even better now that the workunits should take around twice as long to crunch.

Huh. Making us work twice as slow eh? :p
1294) Message boards : Number crunching : The Great Crunchoff Grandstand (Message 13359)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...
It's also a Q6600 with 2GB RAM with a fresh BOINC install, running Seti stock and MW stock at 50/50 rate.

Host at Milkyway
same Host at Seti

On the Seti side it's set to crunch Multibeam only.
...


I just ended my little experiment. Here are the numbers:

MW: 4827
Seti: 4619 (including pending up to now)

I expected MW to be a bit higher, but it's still not below Seti. :)

Now I put the opti apps back in place to get more...

Well done for doing that mic.

It makes me wonder where it leaves all those claiming that no project awards higher than SETI. And well done Travis for a good credit pitch.
1295) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13335)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It had to happen sooner or later. The first sub-one second ;)


CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 cores/threads) 2.793 GHz (364ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.3.145
Found 1 CAL device

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 512 MB local RAM (remote 28 MB cached + 512 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 680 MHz, memory clock: 750 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue)
supporting double precision

0 WUs already running on GPU 0
Starting WU on GPU 0
Calculated about 1.85078e+012 floatingpoint ops on GPU, 6.18221e+007 on FPU.
Calculated about 8.03964e+008 floatingpoint ops on FPU (stars).
WU completed. It took 0.96875 seconds CPU time and 25.627 seconds wall clock time @ 2.79307 GHz.

1296) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13332)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes!

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 cores/threads) 2.79298 GHz (362ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.3.145
Found 1 CAL device

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 512 MB local RAM (remote 28 MB cached + 512 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 680 MHz, memory clock: 750 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue)
supporting double precision

0 WUs already running on GPU 0
Starting WU on GPU 0
Calculated about 1.85078e+012 floatingpoint ops on GPU, 6.18221e+007 on FPU.
Calculated about 8.03964e+008 floatingpoint ops on FPU (stars).
WU completed. It took 1 seconds CPU time and 25.726 seconds wall clock time @ 2.79307 GHz.


NO!

Amazing. And I got 12.961071 credits for it.
1297) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13329)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes!

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 cores/threads) 2.79298 GHz (362ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.3.145
Found 1 CAL device

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 512 MB local RAM (remote 28 MB cached + 512 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 680 MHz, memory clock: 750 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue)
supporting double precision

0 WUs already running on GPU 0
Starting WU on GPU 0
Calculated about 1.85078e+012 floatingpoint ops on GPU, 6.18221e+007 on FPU.
Calculated about 8.03964e+008 floatingpoint ops on FPU (stars).
WU completed. It took 1 seconds CPU time and 25.726 seconds wall clock time @ 2.79307 GHz.
1298) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13322)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

tailgate
1299) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13321)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I looked randomly at 10 of the top 100 computer’s RAC – they are all ATI equipped.

I expect the top crunchers amassed most of their credits before the ATIs were available for optimized crunching. ATI GPU crunching is relatively quite recent and I expect people want a stable period of crunching with the ATIs before saying how they are doing with them.
1300) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13282)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Although the server side says there is plenty of WUs to be released so, clearly, the issuing to work to requests are the problem still. Again I am, uncharacteristicly, out of work.

Let us hope the problem, and server cache work waiting, issues can be solved early next week.

::Waving to Anton:: who is still sore!

Sore? Try a few more idiotic statements to entertain us.
1301) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13275)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

cooking
1302) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13274)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK shoot me for this!
The baby ATI cruncher grew into a monster with an unsatisfying appetite
A quick calculation shows that a 4850 in a quad can gobble up +/- 1400 work units in an hour!
These monsters multiplied rapidly when a lot of crunchers rushed to the stores to get theirs
Now the server and network can’t keep up feeding these hungry monsters.

Result:
Everyone is starving!

Bang! Travis has recently repeated that there are plenty of WUs on the server side. The problem is releasing them to the clients (us), which I understand requires a server memory fix which will be done on Monday, hopefully, the 20/6 WUs being a temporary fix. It has nothing to do do with WU shortage so blaming ATI will do nothing for you.

Go here; http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/server_status.php

There are 700 WUs for you not being gobbled by ATIs

[edit] it just went up to 800 +
1303) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13268)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

parachute
1304) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13267)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

How about 1 second per WU?

...snip...

1 credit per day, subject to being lowered without notice.

WU completed. It took 1.32813 seconds CPU time

Any good? :P
1305) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13264)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

nuclear
1306) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13245)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Compared to yesterday my rigs (CPU only) seem to be running well, and fed. Yesterday, with the cache at 20 per CPU, I was in the same position as everyone else - zilch.

Everyone? Zilch? I got a shed load of WUs yesterday, I can tell you. Did anyone else get any? Did everyone get zilch WUs yesterday? Was I the only one who got any WUs yesterday?

If you're going to bitch and complain, at least don't drag me into your 'everyone'.
1307) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13242)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Baron
1308) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13241)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I forgot. For me it seems to work more smoothfull. I get less wu but the system is running most of time now. The message reaches cpu limit is ocuring regurly, but this is the setting at this moment. This means that the work available for my serer is at that moment the maximum that it is allowed, so I think this has made the situation more stable.

Hallelujah, someone's happy ;)
1309) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13236)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
i see that more WUs is with granted credit 0.

I'm seeing WUs claiming zero credit and being awarded the credit they jolly well deserve.

(OK, it's some GPU which show zero crunching time but I've timed some of them on a stopwatch and they do actually take a few seconds. I mean, I wouldn't even see them if it was zero seconds, would I)

1310) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13235)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Plus the cable modem has got to be good for doing something else.

Good idea! And who needs a screensaver when you can watch the flashing lights on this

And some flash more than others.

And some find it arresting.
1311) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 13232)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Earl
1312) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13231)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You might want to ask the seti Germany team, they seem to be running the credit distribution of Boinc right now.

Maybe DA's paying them on the side... :)

Maybe he's grading their paper's as well...





1313) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13230)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Plus the cable modem has got to be good for doing something else.

Good idea! And who needs a screensaver when you can watch the flashing lights on this
1314) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU App + Other Projects (Message 13177)
Posted 28 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Someone from Alliane Francophone obviously found the latest test app already ;)

Actually, I've been running with it all day - with no problems (so far) - it's delightful ;)
1315) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13176)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Can I crunch on my scsi card? Its just sitting there idle!!

I've got internal USB 2.0 cards and PS/2 ports doing nothing. What about my power unit? That ought to be cruching with it's own fan an' all...

I've got a sound card that's silent and idle far too often. Give it some work to do! ;P


You are all gluttons for punishment! There aren't enough WUs to keep the cpus and gpus busy and you want to port it to additional hardware? Focus people. Focus!


Yes but, I'd have a cache in that card, that card, and that card, as all as the big red brick called a GPU which spits 'em out faster than this chap can bongo ;)
1316) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13168)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Can I crunch on my scsi card? Its just sitting there idle!!

I've got internal USB 2.0 cards and PS/2 ports doing nothing. What about my power unit? That ought to be cruching with it's own fan an' all...

I've got a sound card that's silent and idle far too often. Give it some work to do! ;P

I just can't believe we've got idle sound cards. They could sing as they crunch ...
1317) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 13167)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
2) Will it work on the 9x series?

No.

It's not fair :(
1318) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13152)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
oO thats not good :D
Hmm when i spare the money i buy a 4870x2

Well, I've certainly done OK with the optimized apps this month.


1319) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13130)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
hehe well i am really scared with my temps 5 processes running 100%
nvidia 65 C and my poor little amd 9850BE cpu 4 x 55 C xD

Mine was running at 81 C, but I knocked the overclocking back a bit and to 73 C. However, I suspect the temperature drop has something to do with standing idle waiting for work...
1320) Message boards : Number crunching : search progress visualization (Message 13126)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Dave was supposed to have gotten them run automatically :P I guess he didn't... I'm going to bug him some more.

Keep that cattle prod handy!

I'll click the Red X on him.

Dave will blame it on a freshman.

I think you have something there. A freshman prodding Dave with a cattle prod. Now that's an idea for a screensaver :P
1321) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13124)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
oohhh---I bet that would keep it nice and cool! And you could always bump it from 110 to 220 for that extra "kick"!


It's already 220 over here in England - I'm trying to clock mine to 240 :P
1322) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13114)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Can I crunch on my scsi card? Its just sitting there idle!!


I've got internal USB 2.0 cards and PS/2 ports doing nothing. What about my power unit? That ought to be cruching with it's own fan an' all...
1323) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13103)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Gpu's keep wanting work.

Well, somebody's got to do it.


*LOL* But we poor CPU crunchers want work, too!!!


Hey, I'm a CPU cruncher as well. You hum it, and I'll crunch it. With my network card if Cluster Physik and speedimic get round to it ;P
1324) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 13101)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Gpu's keep wanting work.

Well, somebody's got to do it.

1325) Message boards : Number crunching : Relative GPU Crunching Speeds (Message 13093)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Do the 4830's work with the GPU app ?????

Yes they do. It is tested and they run.

Hmmmm, I better update zslip then...

You're just getting too good Cluster Physik ;)
1326) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13080)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
First you need to get your RAC over my total credit. Beat that.

Oh please don't make me get all those PCs out again :P

Now then, how many triple overclocked HD4890s do I need to order?

A tripled overclock as in 3X standard overclock?

No, I meant like, instead of two HD4870's stuck back to back on the same graphic card (a HD4870x2) I reckon I need a triple HD4890, all stuck on the same card since I only have a limited number of PCs with PCI Express slots.

I knew what you meant. Gotcha! Beat that.

Ah, but you know what Paul just said. I only need two and a half slots. I have one occupied, one not, and there's always that Lappy nVidia of mine churning out GPUGRID - that could be half a slot... game's not over just yet

Did you hear the latest GPU credit news? It's gonna be adjusted SETI Classic style. 1 credit per WU. Beat that.

How about 1 second per WU?



'That's just too much credit. It'll have to be in line with seti. Credit for Gpu's now 1/360th of a credit.' ;P After all this is Seti-Way ya know!

Darn, I better revise my triple HD4890x3 requirement. 360 did you say?
1327) Message boards : Number crunching : Relative GPU Crunching Speeds (Message 13078)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Do the 4830's work with the GPU app ?????

Nope. Only the HD3850, HD3870, HD4850, HD4870 and the HD4890 when it's due to come out in April.
1328) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13072)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

OK, I just got a bunch through. It was quite a shock to see so many :P
1329) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13065)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nothing at all since that one task;

27/02/2009 16:43:14|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

1330) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13062)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Let me know if the increase queue size helps at all with the work availability.

Looking forward to it Travis, but right now I have this;

27/02/2009 16:31:35|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

No work availabilty just now


Yeah, I just restarted the server :P Work should start flowing now.

Yes, I just got a task, but no more;

27/02/2009 16:36:26|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 1745280 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
27/02/2009 16:36:32|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
1331) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit queue size (6) (Message 13058)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Let me know if the increase queue size helps at all with the work availability.

Looking forward to it Travis, but right now I have this;

27/02/2009 16:31:35|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

No work availabilty just now

[edit] I just got a task. Whooohoooo! :)
1332) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : MyMiniCity: Milky Way style (Message 13045)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Oh god not again!
1333) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 13040)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
First you need to get your RAC over my total credit. Beat that.

Oh please don't make me get all those PCs out again :P

Now then, how many triple overclocked HD4890s do I need to order?

A tripled overclock as in 3X standard overclock?

No, I meant like, instead of two HD4870's stuck back to back on the same graphic card (a HD4870x2) I reckon I need a triple HD4890, all stuck on the same card since I only have a limited number of PCs with PCI Express slots.

I knew what you meant. Gotcha! Beat that.

Ah, but you know what Paul just said. I only need two and a half slots. I have one occupied, one not, and there's always that Lappy nVidia of mine churning out GPUGRID - that could be half a slot... game's not over just yet

Did you hear the latest GPU credit news? It's gonna be adjusted SETI Classic style. 1 credit per WU. Beat that.

How about 1 second per WU?

1334) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 13033)
Posted 27 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Also what everyone Temps on their cards



1335) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12953)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Today was the first time I saw all my 4 puters at home running idle. *eek*

4 puters running idle? How dare they? They should be standing still if they're idle :P
1336) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12952)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have a problem when running another project at the same time :

If I run another project, I always have the "not requesting tasks" message.

If I suspend the other projet, I must manually request tasks, and sometimes I get some ...

I also get this. There seems to be enough tasks available for us to download, but for some reason we don't get them. Minds immeasurably more intelligent than mine are looking at the problem right now I expect.

1337) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12936)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Does it makes sense to compile ATI GPU version with CPU SSSE3, SSE4.1 and/or SSE4.2 instructions? Or at least try to see how it would behave...

No sorry, the ATI would never fit into my Core 2 SFF, there is not enough room inside and I couldn't get the lid back on, no way ;)
1338) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12935)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
First you need to get your RAC over my total credit. Beat that.

Oh please don't make me get all those PCs out again :P

Now then, how many triple overclocked HD4890s do I need to order?

A tripled overclock as in 3X standard overclock?

No, I meant like, instead of two HD4870's stuck back to back on the same graphic card (a HD4870x2) I reckon I need a triple HD4890, all stuck on the same card since I only have a limited number of PCs with PCI Express slots.

I knew what you meant. Gotcha! Beat that.

Ah, but you know what Paul just said. I only need two and a half slots. I have one occupied, one not, and there's always that Lappy nVidia of mine churning out GPUGRID - that could be half a slot... game's not over just yet
1339) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12922)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@Cluster Physik

Just installed 19b, and have a couple comments ...

One, shouldn't the file names be set on zslip to reflect the content, ie: win64-19b? or something like that ...

I think that's a good comment and I can sort that out on zslip.


Cool, I usually D/L and hang onto the versions till it is very clear that the new is the keeper. Just incase I have to back-level the application ... I do the same thing with BOINC Manager (in case they start to hide the old list, even paranoids have enemies) ... :)

OK, zslip is updated so that the filenames also include OS, whether ATI, 32 or 64 bit, and version number.
1340) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12912)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
@Cluster Physik

Just installed 19b, and have a couple comments ...

One, shouldn't the file names be set on zslip to reflect the content, ie: win64-19b? or something like that ...

I think that's a good comment and I can sort that out on zslip.
1341) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12911)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well, if you can get dual core cars, you only need 2 1/2 cards ... so you only need 2 1/2 PCI-e slots ...

Of course, finding a MB with a 1/2 PCI-e slots might be hard too ...

Hmmm, tricky.....
1342) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 12909)
Posted 26 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
[One GPU, out-of-the-box and into-the-box and 6-14 seconds per task ... geeze, what more is needed?


Ha ha, yes I was thinking that, wondering if the 12 seconds might come down to 11 or 10.... then, what the heck - 12 seconds is fast enough! ;)

But then where would we be without a challenge? I'm looking forward to seeing what else Cluster Physik and speedimic can do with their magic :)
1343) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12900)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

zslip now includes version 0.19b for the ATI cards. This version includes GPU detection.

Is this the 32bit or 64bit version, though?


zslip has been updated to show the ATI 0.19b 32bit and 0.19b 64bit versions separately.
1344) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 12899)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Your HD4850 only runs at 625MHz? Wow, my HD3850 does 669MHz with 829MHz on the memory.

I'm clocking my HD4850 at 690MHz and 1183MHz on memory.

[Edit] No I'm not. It just crashed. Just a little tweak needed I expect...

You tweakers and your crashes...

It's tweaked down to 685MHz and 1050Mhz and behaving itself right now. But even if it runs OK at these settings I will probably notch it down a little more. Why stress it when the tasks it is churning out are more than enough? It's been interesting trying to clock it, and I'm interested to hear if others have tried it.
1345) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12898)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
First you need to get your RAC over my total credit. Beat that.

Oh please don't make me get all those PCs out again :P

Now then, how many triple overclocked HD4890s do I need to order?

A tripled overclock as in 3X standard overclock?

No, I meant like, instead of two HD4870's stuck back to back on the same graphic card (a HD4870x2) I reckon I need a triple HD4890, all stuck on the same card since I only have a limited number of PCs with PCI Express slots. However, since Paul D. Buck reckons I will need five then I'm in trouble since I don't have 5 PCs with PCI Express. In any case the HD4890 isn't out yet and I doubt if they're invented the 3-stuck-on-one-card yet.

Cluster Physik is my best bet. If he can get the GPU crunching down to 3 WU a second and Travis lifts the daily quota...
1346) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12896)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Can't help agreeing, this 12WU/core limit is a pain in the butt - why the limit? S@H allows a 10 day buffer, even given the number of regular SNAFU's they get. Even raising it to just 30/core would be more manageable - until you get the download scheduler problem sorted, we the grunts(the poor sods on the receiving end of Travis' whims), are gonna continue to run out of work, dropping RAC, etc, which is just gonna cause more frustration! How many more crunchers do you want to leave the project in disgust?? Get it sorted, PLEASE!!

I think you have to remember that this project is still in an alpha stage and WUs are issued according to the needs of the project. I'm sure Travis is aware of what you are asking, but working within what he sees as best for the project in conjunction with the other scientists he is working with. He is trying to resolve the problems, as he has recently said.
1347) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 12873)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Your HD4850 only runs at 625MHz? Wow, my HD3850 does 669MHz with 829MHz on the memory.

I'm clocking my HD4850 at 690MHz and 1183MHz on memory.

[Edit] No I'm not. It just crashed. Just a little tweak needed I expect...
1348) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 12852)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Will I be able to use my nVidia 8500gt to run GPU app?

and my nVidia 9600M GT ?
1349) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 12851)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Your HD4850 only runs at 625MHz? Wow, my HD3850 does 669MHz with 829MHz on the memory.

Now I feel inadequate :( But then the HD3850 has 320 Stream Processing Units as oppossed to 800 for the HD4850 ;)
1350) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU overclocking (Message 12842)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I expect this must be the next way of getting more number crunching. I've been reading around and it seems I can push my HD4850 up from 625MHz to maybe as much as 690MHz. Has anyone tried this?

1351) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12840)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

zslip now includes version 0.19b for the ATI cards. This version includes GPU detection.

Is this the 32bit or 64bit version, though?

I just test ran 4 tasks on my HD3850; although running tasks in 30 - 40 seconds is nice, I'd rather have a responsive system. So I think I'll only run this at night, when I am not using my computer. ;-)

0.19b is for both 32 and 64bit.

The zip file available for download for 0.19b contains the apps for both 32 and 64 bit versions. I will make it clearer by seperating them - I'll update zslip later.
1352) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12828)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
First you need to get your RAC over my total credit. Beat that.

Oh please don't make me get all those PCs out again :P

Now then, how many triple overclocked HD4890s do I need to order?
1353) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU App + Other Projects (Message 12827)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I can't get my HD4850/Pentium D setup (2 Cores, 2 threads) to run any more than ATI-MW and one other project. Once I add a third project, even having set MW at 99% resource share, it will not run MW whilst the other two are running.

1354) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12826)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm having a problem and not finding the answer so I could use some help. I have installed a Radeon HD 3850 with 512 mb gddr3 in a quad q66oo. I have downloaded the windows 32 bit GPU version .19b from zslip, I have also downloaded catalyst 8.12 drivers for windows vista 32 from ATI. The card seems to run wu's in about 12 seconds. They all error out with the following error.
stderr out

<core_client_version>6.4.5</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Running Milkyway@home ATI GPU application version 0.19 by Gipsel
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 cores/threads) 2.39398 GHz (398ms)
CAL Runtime: 1.3.145
Found 0 CAL devices
No compatible GPU found!

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Would like some help understanding what is wrong.
Thanks

I would say that it looks like the drivers are not installed as required. I first tried the drivers that came with my card, 8.5, and also 9.1 and 9.2 (with files renamed to make it work) but none of them worked - only 8.12 was good for my HD4850.

Perhaps you need to make sure you uninstall all your existing ATI drivers before installing 8.12 - my suggestion.
1355) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12825)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It is simply at the maximum already ;)


It is simply the best Cluster Physik! :)
1356) Message boards : Number crunching : Why... (Message 12795)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Travis has said there is enough work being generated and availble on the servers, and I can see so from the server status. But maybe there is a problem with the servers - I've seen this once or twice;

2/25/2009 00:56:11||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Or is he still taking the servers down briefly to work out what the problem is?

[edit] There it is again, no work;

2/25/2009 01:02:47|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 834717 seconds of work, reporting 5 completed tasks
2/25/2009 01:03:02|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

I don't know Lisa. It's a mystery...
1357) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12791)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I was hoping you'd be able to mount the rest of your system onto the brick. Beat that.

Haha, well, in a way I have. I've already turned off some of my PCs and mothballed them, no longer needed. If my HD4850 card gets through 5000 wu's a day, (are we still being capped? I can't remember) that, I am told, equates to approximately 50,000 credits.

That's equal to say 10 quads running Seti enhanced apps.

One HD4850 running here or 10 quads in Seti? I've already got the ripple card ;)
1358) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12787)
Posted 25 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

zslip now includes version 0.19b for the ATI cards. This version includes GPU detection.
1359) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12762)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I might be able to claim a first here, maybe, even go for a Guinness Book of Records - I've manage to shoe-horn my HD4850 brick into a Small Form Factor. Bet no-one has ever done that and run ATI 0.19b :P

I wanted to run it in this better machine rather than the only colossus tower I have, and not only is it rippling away nicely in the SFF, but I'm running it under BOINC version 5.10.45
1360) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12759)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Not sure what it means, if it means anything, luck of the draw, bad day at black rock ...


Bad day at black rock. If you're running the ATI then these tasks are over in a blink of an eye. Let them go. We cherish each one, I know. But there are many others to greet and to race by - in the blink of an eye...

;)


Hmm, well, I don't know about that ... I blink slowly, but not THAT slowly ... :)

But you are right, I am too anal about losing the science ...

I know what you mean. I find it hard to micro manage so many machines, and especially have that 'Doh!' feeling when I find I've crunched the same CPDN WU and it ain't gonna give me no more credit the second time. I have to ditch some part run WUs 'just in case' I already finished them off somewhere else.

Oh the joy of short MW tasks :)
1361) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunchoff MW vs SETI (Message 12746)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
How much will you pay me :)

I've had a good think about that, but decided to keep my hands in my pockets. Maybe not knowing is best. Half the fun is trying to work out where it is best to crunch, and with what resources ;)
1362) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12739)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Not sure what it means, if it means anything, luck of the draw, bad day at black rock ...


Bad day at black rock. If you're running the ATI then these tasks are over in a blink of an eye. Let them go. We cherish each one, I know. But there are many others to greet and to race by - in the blink of an eye...

;)
1363) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12738)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Too many Gpu's for the setup being used.

Well I don't know about that. But I do know that I never had a farm of Quad ZillionMhz super processors - but with my one ATI card I do now ;) CUDA is fast but not a patch on what Cluster Physik is doing with these ATI cards ...
1364) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunchoff MW vs SETI (Message 12702)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
But at the end of the day I might want to know where it's best for me to crunch, which project, if I want to maximise my credits.

This is not to see what give you personaly more credits per hour but to achieve credit parity between the stock applications.

To get the data for your own machine you will have to run and watch yourself, especially as the optimisations may vary considerably for different OS/CPU/GPU setups.

That's a very good point, but it usually comes down to which project(s) you want to crunch. Credit is nice to have, but credit is more of an indication of 'I did more for this project than that project'.
1365) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunchoff MW vs SETI (Message 12694)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
To testing opt app to opt app. I can, but I don't see what this would accomplish, it is like comparing speeds between a boat and a plane.

I understand what you're saying here. But at the end of the day I might want to know where it's best for me to crunch, which project, if I want to maximise my credits. I could say, in this case, that I would not be interested in the stock comparisons between SETI and MW - if I intend to use op apps and not stock apps. I would want to know which returns the most - the SETI op app or the MW op app. (Hypothetically since I can't crunch in SETI anyway.) That is relevant even if I have GPU since I don't have GPU in every box I am crunching.

However, I can understand that the stock to stock comparison is vital since it also affects the MW credit awarded in op apps and GPU, irrespective of whether I or anyone else crunches in SETI. So I'm very interested to see this test outcome.
1366) Message boards : Number crunching : workkk I need work... (Message 12692)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What this tells *ME* is that the best way to run GPU systems is with an HT enabled Intel CPU ... like the one I am running MW on ... :)

That's handy. That's how I'm running my GPU :)
1367) Message boards : Number crunching : workkk I need work... (Message 12691)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
While it shows 8 running at the same time, you really only have one running at a time and it just takes 8 times longer to complete all 8 ... but each takes the same amount of time ...

I think I can confirm this as being true. On it's own I can have 4 MW tasks running concurrently. I've found a stopwatch on my mobile phones and found that on average I am completing a WU every 10 to 12 seconds.

Now I have 2 MW tasks running and one CPDN task. MW is still completing a WU in 10 to 12 seconds on average, but now I am now also processing other project's WU.
1368) Message boards : Number crunching : The Great Crunchoff Grandstand (Message 12690)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Remember, we measure in Cobblestones as opposed to Whetstones, Dhrystones, or Flintstones ...

And Soapstones, surely... :)
1369) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12674)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I previously tried Catalyst 9.1 for my HD4850 which crashed and left the MW tasks going snail-pace.

I also tried Catalyst 9.2 with the renames in Windows/System32, but it again crashed and snail-pace.

Reinstalled Catalyst 8.12 and everything is rippling again nicely ;)
1370) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12663)
Posted 24 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
All right, got the GPU app working, under Windows 7 no less. Two problems: BOINC was using a protected install, and the DLLs for stream were missing. First was easy to correct with a reinstall, and the DLLs I tried grabbing from Vista x64, worked like a charm. So in exchange for some graphics performance, I get 4 ABC and 4 MW WUs running all at the same time. Great app Cluster Physik. ;)

Having discovered a stopwatch on my mobile phone I ran some tests and find that I can indeed run another project together with MW. I quite agree - Great app Cluster Physik. ;)
1371) Message boards : Number crunching : workkk I need work... (Message 12642)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well I just got some more, but still hitting the CPU not the just the GPU... Though it is hitting the GPU as well. I would just like MW to be GPU only.

I must admit I've tried to run it with two other projects, but no luck. It all slows down and then it's off in fury when I suspend the other project. Perhaps someone else is having luck (did someone say they were running ABC with it) ?

I'm not really too bothered, I can crunch other tasks on another PC, but it would be nice to get MW GPU to play with other tasks.
1372) Message boards : Number crunching : workkk I need work... (Message 12640)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
well I seemed to get a bunch of 7-8 second units but somehow they taxed the CPU not the GPU...

But then nothing...

I noticed mine stopped for about 10 minutes half an hour ago. I pressed 'update' and it's flying again...

23/02/2009 22:00:41|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 1745280 seconds of work, reporting 3 completed tasks
23/02/2009 22:00:46|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
23/02/2009 22:02:01|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 1745280 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
23/02/2009 22:02:11|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
23/02/2009 22:11:07|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1745280 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
23/02/2009 22:11:17|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request completed: got 15 new tasks
1373) Message boards : Number crunching : I read on boincstats where they got GPU MW running on 4870 (Message 12629)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've just posted the steps to install the ATI card here in 'The GPU Ripple'

Works better, but doesn't mention that a protected install doesn't work with it. That's the one thing that had blocked me before, as while that protected off may be the default in 6.4.x and later, it's on by default in 6.2.x and earlier.

Thanks jedirock - I've updated that post.
1374) Message boards : Number crunching : I read on boincstats where they got GPU MW running on 4870 (Message 12626)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
1. Is this true?
2. How do I cause I have a HD 4870 that I want to put to work.

1: Yes, it is true.
2: Couple prerequisites:
- ATI Catalyst 8.12 or 9.1 recommended, 9.2 will work with renaming some files
- An AMD/ATI Radeon HD38xx or 48xx graphics card (which you have)
- ATI GPU application. Ice hosts some at zslip.com, you should be able to find the link on here
- Windows XP or Vista (both 32- and 64-bit work AFAIK) (Windows 7 will work, but you need to copy some DLLs from a Vista install)
- BOINC install that does not have the protected install

The application download comes with a DLL file, an executable, and an app_info to direct BOINC to use the application rather than the stock. You should just be able to shut down BOINC, stick the three files in Milkyway@Home's project directory, and start BOINC again.

I've just posted the steps to install the ATI card here in 'The GPU Ripple'
1375) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12624)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks a lot. That guy said to me that it had tested the application unger Vista 32 and under XP 32 and they didn't work. As you have confirmed me that it works under XP pro 32, may be he is wrong (possibly with the drivers). I'll tell him.

I have just got the drivers through your post about zslip (doing the same but for vista)

It might help to spell out the steps to install the card;

1. Download the Catalyst drivers - see where it says 'find a driver' against the ATI cards in zslip

2. Download the apps for ATI 0.19 from zslip

3. Switch off PC, fit the ATI HD card.

4. Power up PC, use the downloaded drivers to install the ATI card.

5. Install latest version of BOINC, if already not done so. Make sure the install does not have the protected install set on.
(protected off may be the default in 6.4.x and later, it's on by default in 6.2.x and earlier)

6. Run BOINC and Attach to MilkyWay. (No WUs will download)

7. Exit BOINC manager.

8. Copy the downloaded app files in (2) above to your MilkyWay project folder (eg, C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\milkyway.cs.rpi.edu_milkyway in Vista)

7. Start BOINC Manager.

That's it ;)
1376) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12619)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This PC has a small box but it has accepted previosly a gtx280 (that now is broken and returned to the shop). ¿Do you know if this appl. works with Windows Vista 32 bits?

I can't say. Mine works fine with Windows XP Pro 32 bit, and I can tell you that there is a Vista 32 bit driver for , but that's all.

You'll find the Catalyst 8.12 32 bit Vista driver here;

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/previous/common/common-cat812-vista32.html
1377) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12610)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It will fit, sure. When I say "the box" I refer to the graphic card box. After I have bought it I have been told that this application doesn't work under Vista 32 bits and if it is so, It would be easily for me to return the card with an unbroken box.


I was joking. But then I wanted to fit it in my SFF but of course there is no hight in the box, but certainly no room behind the PCI-E to take a 10 inch lump. But there is in another SFF that I have that has space behind the PCI-E slot, but again, no way if fixing the top back on.
1378) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12604)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Please, I need to know if the Win32/ATI/0.19 application will work under Vista 32 bits O.S. I have a just-bought hd4850 and I need to know it before I open the box...

The first thing you need to know is, 'Will it fit in my PC?' It's pretty big for a graphic card ;)

[edit] you'll find the Vista 8.12 drivers link on zslip where it says 'find a driver' (I found that the 9.1 drivers didn't work for the HD 4850)
1379) Message boards : Number crunching : The Great Crunchoff Grandstand (Message 12601)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yea but.... who's winning?

[edit] Dam, I just noticed - I hit the 5 million ;)
1380) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : The GPU ripple (Message 12573)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I know some are trying GPU out and I for one am fascinated it. One of the things that I find quite entertaining is watching the Tasks page in my BOINC Manager. I have it sorted by 'To Completion' and can be mesmerized by the way the lines and numbers flicker and ripple as the tasks are rapidly completed. (OK, mesmerized by the credits clocking up as well ;)

Anyone else found this fascinating screen saver?
1381) Message boards : Number crunching : The Great Crunchoff Grandstand (Message 12569)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
** either Gipsel or zslip 0.19 used for same reason as before, just not sure which right now. ;-)

zslip hosts a copy of Gipsel's 0.19 - they are both Gipsel's ;)

1382) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12568)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ok, then the culprit may be the server or the 'greedy' GPUs requesting WUs so much faster than our poor CPUs. *LOLOL*
Although Travis stated that on the server side, it appears that we never drop below 300+ available workunits at any given time..
But possibly too many users/fast GPUs eat up the WUs too quickly so that too many work requests are blocking each other?

From what I can make out my GPU has been working non-stop all day without shortage of tasks. It must be an outlier avoiding the bumping :P
1383) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12556)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've also had problems getting work today. This is typical;

23/02/2009 15:58:13|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1739444 seconds of work, reporting 16 completed tasks
23/02/2009 15:58:18|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
1384) Message boards : Number crunching : Core i7 and Optimized App (Message 12547)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

*Grin* You have to eat more MilkyWay candy bars and grow fat! ;-P

Well I don't know about that, I'm not getting any now, even if I'm asking for it;

23/02/2009 14:54:15|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1745280 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
23/02/2009 14:54:20|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

But then I get 3 tasks, and suddenly the rest;

23/02/2009 14:55:26|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
23/02/2009 14:55:41|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 21 new tasks
1385) Message boards : Number crunching : Core i7 and Optimized App (Message 12544)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hmmmm... *scratches head* Maybe the server thinks I'm too greedy?

Naaaaaa, it's making sure there is enough for me :P

Tss, you're putting me on diet????

Oh my no, just making sure I have a chance at catching your 2 million :P

1386) Message boards : Number crunching : The Great Crunchoff Grandstand (Message 12542)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Anyway, it looks like we are off to the races now! :-D

I bet a tenner in MW to win :/
1387) Message boards : Number crunching : Core i7 and Optimized App (Message 12540)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hmmmm... *scratches head* Maybe the server thinks I'm too greedy?

Naaaaaa, it's making sure there is enough for me :P
1388) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunchoff MW vs SETI (Message 12534)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Attached MW and Seti on both.

I was wondering why on both. I would have thought that one should have one and one the other. Theoretically files installed by SETI could taint MW, and vica vica versa of course.
1389) Message boards : Number crunching : Core i7 and Optimized App (Message 12529)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It seems to me that it's all the Cylon's fault (who won't share with humans). It seems to me that if MW is the only project running it will request work. If say CPDN is also running, at times it won't request any more MW. If I suspend CPDN, MW tasks are almost immediately requested.


On the server side, it appears that we never drop below 300+ available workunits at any given time.


Hm, but since today I'm getting the same on my lappy:

snip


It's sitting idle (only a little FreeHAL WU is running but that's non-cpu intensive so Milkyway does request work but the lappy isn't getting some... )

I also have the same problem with a couple of laptops. Suspending the only other project makes no difference, they are requesting zero MW and downloading zero. But I do see 400 tasks waiting server side and other PCs of mine request tasks and get them eventally, after clicking on 'update' 2 or 4 times.
1390) Message boards : Number crunching : Core i7 and Optimized App (Message 12509)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm getting a lot of "requesting new tasks - request completed: got 0 new tasks" messages on all of my machines. So they sit idle, then request again. Looking at the logs i'm suprised i'm able to even connect to the server since I can't be the only one hammering it many times a minute.


Has it occurred to you that the problems may be caused by the people who are hammering the server many times a minute? ;)


It seems to me that it's all the Cylon's fault (who won't share with humans). It seems to me that if MW is the only project running it will request work. If say CPDN is also running, at times it won't request any more MW. If I suspend CPDN, MW tasks are almost immediately requested.
1391) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12492)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
- it was like how the Cylons and Humans can't get along, it always had to be one or the other never both.

I've been running the HD4850 on version 0.19 for just over 24 hours now and the phrase 'running like the clappers' comes to mind ;) I've tried to share with CPDN, but it instantly drops from a rapid 4 x 0.5 CPU to a very slow 2 x 0.5 CPU. To be honest I can run CPDN on another box and the 4 x 0.5 clappers is more than enough throughput for me on this one box. However, if a way to share with the Cylons can be found, it would be nice ...
1392) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 12491)
Posted 23 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

smelly :(
1393) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12373)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I would like to know how much more productive it is expected to be a HD4870 versus a HD4850.

20%

As the number of shaders is identical for both cards, the difference comes just from the clock speed, 750 vs 625 MHz.
750/625 = 1.2

The higher memory bandwidth of the HD4870 is of no use for MW. It is not a limiting factor, that's the shader throughput.

I take it the power of the host computer makes no difference, or does, for example, CPU or RAM in the computer make a difference to the card's performance?
1394) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12372)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
LOL

Some people just have to take the long way round (it IS more scenic :) )

Yes it's longer, but then some may like to get the drivers from the ATI site itself. I documented the 'long walk' below so that I could link to the post in zslip ;)

One of the problems with a site like ATI's is the mass of information and links you have to wade through. If you're unlucky you don't see the links you need, or if lucky or used to such sites you may see them quickly. Hopefully it is now easier for some to find the drivers.


hehe, I was describing the ATI site as the ong way round, not your site.

Yes I see, but now that I've found it on the 'long' ATI site I'm inclined to uninstall mine and use the one from the ATI site. I do recall on the site I used that there was more than one driver for 8.12 XP... did I pick the right one? The one on the ATI site must be right.
1395) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 12371)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
tattle tale

At least we are reminded of how to spell "The Curmudgeon", aren't we John Clark?

And as for those on the list still using multiple names here - don't.
Leave it in SETI why don't you?

And for God's sake John Clark The Curmudgeon why are you bringing tattle tale up here in MilkyWay?


I don't want to bcome part of any ongoing war beteen members, but feel I should remind you this threasd is for a word game. "mole" was followed by "tattle-tale", the two having the same meaning in some contexts. being sensitive is fine, but please keep this game thread as a light entertainment.

mole was followed by tattle tale. tattle tale is two words (this game is not words link) and clearly a reference to something John Clark decided to bring over from SETI. This game is no excuse to bring flame over from SETI.
1396) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12363)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
LOL

Some people just have to take the long way round (it IS more scenic :) )

Yes it's longer, but then some may like to get the drivers from the ATI site itself. I documented the 'long walk' below so that I could link to the post in zslip ;)

One of the problems with a site like ATI's is the mass of information and links you have to wade through. If you're unlucky you don't see the links you need, or if lucky or used to such sites you may see them quickly. Hopefully it is now easier for some to find the drivers.
1397) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU App + Other Projects (Message 12358)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Probably has to do with the "detatch from project" that I had to do when I installed the ATI card, but MW is still running in High Priority mode - meaning that if I let things work the way they should, I will have to wait until it's no longer considered HP.

I'll see what happens over the next couple of weeks.

XB

I'm clutching at straws here, but if I were you I'd be tempted to uninstall the BOINC manager and re-install it.
1398) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12354)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
.
Ah, I see it now, thanks speedimic. To find the Catalyst 8.12 and 9.1 drivers;

Go to the official Ati/AMD site http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html, and click on your OS, eg, 'Profesional/Home' under 'Windows XP'. Then select 'Radeon', then select 'Radeon HD 4800 Series', then click on Go. Click on 'Previous Drivers and Software' at the bottom. Select 'Catalyst 9.1' or 'Catalyst 8.12' and then click on 'Display Driver'.

Or go to http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=18
1399) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 12331)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
tattle tale

At least we are reminded of how to spell "The Curmudgeon", aren't we John Clark?

And as for those on the list still using multiple names here - don't.
Leave it in SETI why don't you?

And for God's sake John Clark The Curmudgeon why are you bringing tattle tale up here in MilkyWay?
1400) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12330)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've updated zslip.com / zslip.net with links to a suggested free download site for the ATI Catalyst drivers, which is;

http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

If you know of a better site please let me know. Thanks.



What about the official Ati/AMD Site?
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

I tried that initially. But all it wanted to offer me was the 9.2 driver. I must admit I got confused and frustrated with it since there is no obvious place to find the 8.12 driver. Perhaps you can say where it is on that site?

There will be a different page for all OS flavors and card series.
For example: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/commonprevious-vista32.html
Might as well use the site previously mentioned.

Thanks for finding that Misfit. When you've just laid out mega bucks for a card and want to get it installed and running quickly, one page with all the drivers for all OS would be helpful - so I'll leave the site I found as you suggest, thanks. I'm sure pleople can use the official ATI or other sites if they want.

But as ever, if there are any suggestions for improvement, please let me know.
1401) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 12327)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I was
1402) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12325)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've updated zslip.com / zslip.net with links to a suggested free download site for the ATI Catalyst drivers, which is;

http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

If you know of a better site please let me know. Thanks.



What about the official Ati/AMD Site?
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

I tried that initially. But all it wanted to offer me was the 9.2 driver. I must admit I got confused and frustrated with it since there is no obvious place to find the 8.12 driver. Perhaps you can say where it is on that site?
1403) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 12317)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Add another Red X to that as another SOS went out.

;)

1404) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 12310)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice

1405) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12309)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've updated zslip.com / zslip.net with links to a suggested free download site for the ATI Catalyst drivers, which is;

http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

If you know of a better site please let me know. Thanks.

1406) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 12307)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hahaha, that is so funny I score that double 3 Red X


1407) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 12282)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Windows 32/64 ATI version 0.19 are now in zslip.com and zslip.net

Thanks again Cluster Physik


I'm now using the Win32_SSE2 ATI version 0.19 myself. It is crunching 4 tasks at a time remarkably quickly. The BOINC manager Tasks screen is fast forwarding so quickly you might as well make it the screensaver.
1408) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU App + Other Projects (Message 12279)
Posted 22 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Someone out there already knows the answer, so in advance, let me thank you for your insight.

Have recently installed the GPU app on my quad-core, but it seems to ONLY want to run MW-GPU for now - leaving all other projects waiting to run. This leaves open a lot of CPU cycles.

I've read with interest the developing threads on the GPU app, and other related threads, but to date, I've not found anything that gives me suffienct clues to help me run MW-GPU plus each of the four other apps in my projects file.

Ideally, I'd like to have one of each of the four tasks running on the CPU cores, plus have a MW-GPU task running on the GPU - all at the same time.

Is there a simple way to do this, or do I need to make other decisions about what I can (or cannot) run on the quaddy?

Thanks in advance for your insight.
XB

I can't say I know the answer to this, I don't have a quad. But for my Core 2 situation (and bearing in mind the MW GPU ATI is still experimental and not much testing/results have been carried out here in MW as yet) I am running GPU ATI and more MW in a virtual machine, so that I have more MW WUs running than physical cores.

Cor! ;)
1409) Message boards : Number crunching : Very Strange Time To Competion (Message 12233)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Has anyone tried the last version of BOINC out to see if it picks up the ATI cards? I sent them the notes on GPU detection but have not seen any feedback on it ...

Yes I have and I don't think so. I installed BOINC 6.4.5 after installing a HD4850 ATI card today;

21/02/2009 23:24:27||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86
21/02/2009 23:24:27||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
21/02/2009 23:24:27||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
21/02/2009 23:24:27||Data directory: C:\boinc-data
21/02/2009 23:24:27||Running under account ix
21/02/2009 23:24:27|Milkyway@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
21/02/2009 23:24:28||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3]
21/02/2009 23:24:28||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
21/02/2009 23:24:28||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
21/02/2009 23:24:28||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 7.85 GB virtual
21/02/2009 23:24:28||Disk: 74.53 GB total, 29.55 GB free
21/02/2009 23:24:28||Local time is UTC +0 hours
21/02/2009 23:24:28||Not using a proxy
21/02/2009 23:24:29||No CUDA devices found
21/02/2009 23:24:29||No coprocessors
21/02/2009 23:24:29|Milkyway@home|URL: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/;
1410) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12208)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
BoincView looked like a scene from "The Shining" after I installed Catalyst 9.2, and I also noticed 0% load on the GPU. Reverted to 9.1, and the WUs again finished without errors. Has anyone else tried the latest incarnation of the driver?

Just look here.

If you really want to use the Cat 9.2 driver, it should be possible to manually rename the three atical*.dll files in the Windows/system32 folder to amdcal*.dll. Someone in my team tried and it worked.

@Ice:
Could you add a note to zslip, that the Cat 9.2 is not working with the GPU application? And the older 0.17 GPU app is only available for Win64, not Win32/64 as stated there.

Sure, I'll do that

[edit] done
1411) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12194)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
BoincView looked like a scene from "The Shining" after I installed Catalyst 9.2, and I also noticed 0% load on the GPU. Reverted to 9.1, and the WUs again finished without errors. Has anyone else tried the latest incarnation of the driver?

I got the HD4850 today which came with the 8.5 catalyst driver. That didn't work. I then tried a 9.1 which wouldn't work at all, but I think it was for Vista (I have XP). I tried the 9.1 for XP and it worked, but it seemed like the 4 WUs were going to take forever. So finally I located the 8.12 driver for XP and it works a treat.
1412) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12191)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ah, I see, they took less than a minute so somewhere more around 25 seconds - without doing a precise test (I wish I had a stop watch....)

[edit] 4 ran in 64 seconds - that's 16 secs a WU. Is that about right?

For the longer dual stream WUs (12 to 13 credits) it is the right time for a HD4850 (a 4870 would be 20% faster). The shorter single stream WUs (~8 credits) should take 10 to 11 seconds or so on your card.

Aha, you've worked out which card I have ;)
1413) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12181)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sat 21 Feb 2009 09:29:32 PM CET|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

soon running dry...

I've been getting that on and off all day. It doesn't take long for the tasks to come again.


hmmm, wasn't the result generation supposed to be higher to compensate?

It's only happened on one or two of my PCs - and then I suspect it's something to do with a previous problem where it wouldn't ask for more until the cache ran down. But then I managed to get more tasks by clicking on update before it went dry.
1414) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 12173)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sat 21 Feb 2009 09:29:32 PM CET|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

soon running dry...

I've been getting that on and off all day. It doesn't take long for the tasks to come again.
1415) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12168)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
7 to 12 seconds a WU. Amazing!

Sorry, another edit - that's 4 WU at a time, which makes it an average of 3 seconds a WU or below. I can't get my head around this.

Hey, and I'm not even using the 4870

Sorry, but it isn't that fast ;)
The CPU time gives a good indication for the throughput in the moment, in your case it means a WU finishes every 7 to 12 seconds, but not every 3. Take a stopwatch if you don't believe it ;)

Ah, I see, they took less than a minute so somewhere more around 25 seconds - without doing a precise test (I wish I had a stop watch....)

[edit] 4 ran in 64 seconds - that's 16 secs a WU. Is that about right?
1416) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12166)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Kudos to everyone involved!

Basically, that's just me ;)

But I guess you also have to thank the two guys from my team Planet3DNow! who didn't hesitate to test the very first incarnations of the app, when it did crash on virtually every WU and didn't delivered any results let alone credits. Thank you HiRN and L@MiR/Emploi!
You have to know I do the GPU coding in some kind of a vacuum. I don't have a compatible card yet to test it for myself. That will be some kind of a problem for the multi GPU stuff. We will see how this works out.

L@Mir? Fantistic! (Hello again :) and HiRN also - many thanks! :)

1417) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 12163)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As soon the Nvidia is ready I'm up for testing it on my 9600M GT.

If the project does not drop the double precision requirements, it will also require very recent nvidia cards (CUDA compute capabilities 1.3 required, your 9600GT supports 1.1). That means only the GTX 200 line will work.
That is the same the reason the ATI GPU app is only available for HD3800 and HD4800 cards.

Well, I don't have the HD3800 or the HD4800, but I sure am using something that is crunching them mega qwik ;)
1418) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 12159)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ha ha, I love it. Claimed credit 0.01 Granted credit 8.44

Cluster Physik you're a genius :)

[edit] 7 to 12 seconds a WU. Amazing!

Sorry, another edit - that's 4 WU at a time, which makes it an average of 3 seconds a WU or below. I can't get my head around this.

Hey, and I'm not even using the 4870
1419) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : My PM Inbox is empty :-( (Message 12135)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
My PM Inbox is empty :-(

You never said yes/no.

I get some one word messages in my inbox. Most of them are still pending.
1420) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Great Free RPG Game (Message 12118)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This is an entirely free and VERY addictive RPG if you're bored...

FallenSword RPG - Play online now free!

Hi Blurf. I wasn't sure what RPG was, so I googled it. Wikipedia tells me it stands for 'Rocket-propelled grenade'. Hmmmm. Must be very addictive until it goes off :P

BTW, I barbecued it properly
1421) Message boards : Number crunching : ScreenSaver? (Message 12112)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'll look back in a year then and if they have one i will start cruching again.

To be honest, you're doing this for the wrong reason if you're just waiting for screensavers.

Hehe, true. I almost never use screensavers, because it only eats CPU power and I need that for crunching!

Same with me. I don't even use a desktop screensaver; don't want to waste PC resource for whatever I'm using my PC for.
1422) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 12110)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As I'm crunching I do not yet see any WU being worked by my GPU (Nvidia/Apple 8800GT). Is it because the MW application is not yet compatible with GPU on the mac, or that Boinc is not ready yet for GPU crunching on the mac? Or that Apple/Nvidia are dragging their @ss in offering an updated driver for the system?


Nvidia cards will work on CUDA for Seti but you need an ATI card for milkyway.

If thats wrong someone will point it out hopefully.


Yeah the only current GPU app for milkyway is Cluster Physik's which uses ATI cards. We're working on one for Nvidia.

As soon the Nvidia is ready I'm up for testing it on my 9600M GT.

1423) Message boards : Number crunching : Very Strange Time To Competion (Message 12061)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have a Intel Celeron 1.70GHz 512MB RAM WinXP which jumped to over 3 hours per WU after applying optimization SSE2 v.0.19.

I put it back to v.0.16 and it's now taking just over 16 minutes per WU.

v.0.16 can still be found on zslip
1424) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 12060)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks for your answer!
But how can I add MW-CPU-WUs to the BOINCmanager? I have 16 GPU-tasks running, but BONIC won´t get MW-WUs for the CPU.

Try suspending all your GPU tasks, then resume/add the MW. Then resume the GPU tasks.

If this fails, try suspending all GPU tasks, detach MW, attach to MW, exit and add the optimizer files and restart BOINC manager, and then resume the GPU tasks.
1425) Message boards : Number crunching : Main Page Formatting Change? (Message 12055)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Believe it or not my chosen name previously was even shorter - iX - the name of a planet in Dune (by Frank Herbert) as well as the Roman 9.


Ah... Did you read the series or just see the movie?

My 5 favorite Sci-Fi series are:

Terry Goodkind's "The Sword of Truth" series (now a TV series)
Robert Jordan's "The Wheel of Time" series
Frank Herbert's "Dune" series
Jack L. Chalker's "The Saga of the Well World" series
Ann McCaffery's "Dragon Riders of Pern" series

There's a number of others, too many to list. I have so many sci-fi books that I had to build a database so when I go to the bookstore I don't get one I have already. <smile>


I've read evey one of Frank Herbert and his son's Dune collection, except for the very last, 'Sandworms of Dune' which I will be taking to read on my cruise in the Caribbean next month. I hope to finish the penultimate 'Hunters of Dune' shortly - it's so exciting! ;)
1426) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 12052)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hello!
Is it possible to crunch with GPU and CPU at the same time and how?


Yes, I'm doing it with a Core 2. The GPU takes 0.01 to 0.03 of a core and either one or two other projects also crunch, CPDN and MW. Sometimes CPDN or MW goes into 'Waiting to run' leaving the other to crunch with GPU. I'm not sure why one has this occassional rest.
1427) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 12051)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Moderation is for the weak, soft-heads. ;)

Ha ha, tongue in icy cheek, don't you mean moderators are weak, soft headed? Not here in MW of course, some other forum

It must be Saturday, the weather is gorgeous, and I'm off for a run...
1428) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Nevermind (Message 12050)
Posted 21 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OMG. Just look what is arriving. Had enough of trying to screw SETI up, so trying your luck here?

This is all grinning tongue in cheek of course. Have you seen my precious?


1429) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 11915)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Lol

Yeah, I love the heart of gold, but you forgot to mention that anyone on board has to talk to Marvin.

And this is really describing the Situation at MW.

Marvin would tell you the facts about the Heart of Gold and it's prototype for infinite credit travel.

The principle is that as its drive reaches infinite credit, the ship passes simultaneously through every conceivable and non-conceivable BOINC project in every conceivable and non-conceivable universe (in other words, when one activates the Infinite Credit Drive, the ship is literally in every BOINC project at once).

It is then possible to decide in which BOINC project you actually want to crunch when credit levels decrease.

1430) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11909)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Windows 32/64 ATI version 0.19 are now in zslip.com and zslip.net

Thanks again Cluster Physik

1431) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11906)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
what is the latest version of the gpu app? I'm currently using 0.17 and not sure if their is an update i should be using. If there is any reason to upgrade or known problems?

The latest version would be 0.19 (the link is some posts above), but nothing changed besides a CPU detection like in the CPU version 0.19. A GPU detection would have made more sense ;) So I would regard an upgrade as optional and not needed atm.
Well, 32Bit Win systems are supported now, too.

Actually the 32Bit app still needs some testing, the known problems are quite similar to the 64Bit version I guess. But according to some reports, it may not be such a problem to run GPU-Z when the GPU is used as it is with the 64Bit version. But that's more of a speculation.

If the ones running the app provide some feedback about their settings and the stability, it would be great.

Windows 32/64 ATI version 0.19 are now in zslip.com and zslip.net

Thanks again Cluster Physik
1432) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 11820)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
hahaha i didnt get a message saying that someone pressed the red x so it looks like you didnt actually submit it.

This is what I just wrote in the comment box to the red-x of this post:
This is quite an offensive post!
I feel very bad because of it
:D :D :D









(did it work?)

It certainly worked on me Saenger. I'm shocked! :P
1433) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11818)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The cuda version of the optimized application is ended ? ( i'm sorry for my english but i'm french ^^ lol )


There isn't a CUDA application for milkyway yet. We just got an undergrad to start working on it, so hopefully there'll be a version out in the next couple weeks.

I'm also looking into getting the server to automatically determine what optimizations are available to a client (via BOINCs [url=http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/AppPlan]application planning). If we can get that up and running then we'd be able to have our applications compiled with different levels of optimization and send them out accordingly.

This sounds excellent. I'm sure many will appreciate this process being automated, although I expect some will prefer direct control of applying optimization.
1434) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11804)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If the ones running the app provide some feedback about their settings and the stability, it would be great.

So where's the best place to get one of these cards and drivers at the best price in the UK? I quite fancy having a go at this card crunching.

[edit] Ahem, I would like to add that I would not buy such a card just for gaining credits, or heaven help me to just to help a scientific project, but I'm sure it would also improve the graphic capability for my digital photography hobby and general usablity of my PC system(s).

And I'd be dying to see how it performs on the latest Red Alert game :p
1435) Message boards : Number crunching : Heart of Gold (Message 11775)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Heart of Gold is a prototype space ship for infinite credit travel in the Milky Way. The principle is that as its drive reaches infinite creditability, the ship passes simultaneously through every point in every BOINC project. It is then possible to decide at which project(s) you actually want to be at when creditability levels decrease and approach normality.

Credibility is falling, but normality has not yet been achieved.


1436) Message boards : Number crunching : Main Page Formatting Change? (Message 11772)
Posted 20 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think it's actually caused by the UotD's profile image. I've seen the same thing happen on other projects when the UotD has a wide image in their profile like that.

It's called 'stretching' and can happen in threads where a too-wide image is used, eg, in signatures. It can also happen on the left side of the page if a user picks a very long name, eg, thisismynamewithoutanyspaces.whichwillstretchtheleftAuthorcolumn.containingavatars.

At least nobody can accuse you of using a name that's too long, Ice!

Believe it or not my chosen name previously was even shorter - iX - the name of a planet in Dune (by Frank Herbert) as well as the Roman 9. Somewhere along the way I used the name Ice instead and it kinda stuck. Like tongues do on ice inside cheeks :P

And we figured them all out. Except I think the surfingwithangels one. Your rant about that shall always remain in the Top 10. :P

OMG, please don't remind me, it wasn't me, it was a crazy masquerading lunatic, in fact, I was never there, I have a rock solid alibi, I was with David Beckham and the Harlem Globetrotters at the time, and I never looked at their names, honest guv :/ :P :? :*

1437) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11684)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Screenshot, I couldn't resist. I still can't believe what amazing work this is!

Screenshot

100% in 6 to 9 seconds. Amazing. I've been looking at the rumours about the ATI Raedon HD 4890 coming out in April with 960 stream processors and 48 texture units. Apparently there will be an overclocked version which will beat the HD 4870 with 25-30 percent performance boost with 1GB GDDR5 memory.

I'm saving my pennies already ;)



Can I have your old one? I just have a Radeon 9600. ;P

Sorry, but it's welded inside a laptop, and it's not that old, just a month or so - a Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT. I've just finished my 8th GPUGRID WU with it netting me a nice 2,479 credits. (While is been crunching CPDN and MW at the same time ;)

1438) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11679)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Screenshot, I couldn't resist. I still can't believe what amazing work this is!

Screenshot

100% in 6 to 9 seconds. Amazing. I've been looking at the rumours about the ATI Raedon HD 4890 coming out in April with 960 stream processors and 48 texture units. Apparently there will be an overclocked version which will beat the HD 4870 with 25-30 percent performance boost with 1GB GDDR5 memory.

I'm saving my pennies already ;)

1439) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11654)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Okay, so far, a speed report.

ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB. Running Cat 8.12.
Intel Core2Duo E8400, running stock at 3.0Ghz.
Crunched through daily quota of 2000 tasks in around 10 hours.
Credits - 23,000. This equals around 46,000 credits per day without a WU limit, or 2,300 credits/hour.
I can also run GPU-Z while crunching without a problem. Had to use RivaTuner to increase my fan speeds, it was running at 85C.
This is amazing work!

Is that one task every third of a minute?


1440) Message boards : Number crunching : No work (Message 11649)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just the minute my q9550 ran dry on one core I got 44 new ones. That's what I call good timing

And who says we only do this for the credits? Look at all the brand new tasks we keep getting ;)
1441) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 11640)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes--I figured that a thread titled "any requests?" was good to keep alive.

So it's really about songs and music.


Look up songs titled "Milkyway"...must be hundreds.

You sing it and I'll crunch it :P
1442) Message boards : Number crunching : Main Page Formatting Change? (Message 11637)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think it's actually caused by the UotD's profile image. I've seen the same thing happen on other projects when the UotD has a wide image in their profile like that.

It's called 'stretching' and can happen in threads where a too-wide image is used, eg, in signatures. It can also happen on the left side of the page if a user picks a very long name, eg, thisismynamewithoutanyspaces.whichwillstretchtheleftAuthorcolumn.containingavatars.

At least nobody can accuse you of using a name that's too long, Ice!

Believe it or not my chosen name previously was even shorter - iX - the name of a planet in Dune (by Frank Herbert) as well as the Roman 9. Somewhere along the way I used the name Ice instead and it kinda stuck. Like tongues do on ice inside cheeks :P
1443) Message boards : Number crunching : Main Page Formatting Change? (Message 11616)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I think it's actually caused by the UotD's profile image. I've seen the same thing happen on other projects when the UotD has a wide image in their profile like that.

It's called 'stretching' and can happen in threads where a too-wide image is used, eg, in signatures. It can also happen on the left side of the page if a user picks a very long name, eg, thisismynamewithoutanyspaces.whichwillstretchtheleftAuthorcolumn.containingavatars.
1444) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11544)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
linux links are broken. why is their extension .tar.tar? i also tried tar.gz, tar, or zip.

Sorry about that. I forgot to upload the .tar files to my site :/ They should be there any minute now.

The reason they are .tar.tar is because that is the format that the source is offered as here in MW. I hoped that you Linux people can handle .tar files :P

[edit] links are fixed. Linux 0.18d mkII are available


what I offer is .tar.gz
---> see

What you offer is appreciated mic - it all unpacks very nicely :)


what I wanted to say is on my site it's file.tar.gz, on zslip it's file.tar.tar.
something must happened on the transfer...

The problem seems to be at my end. I am dowloading these files as .tar.tar even though I renamed one of the files on my site to .tar.gz as a test - and this is after I checked the associations for my WiZip and WinRAR.

I'm going to rename all these back to .tar.gz on my site and hope that is how you can download them.

[edit] all the 0.18d mkII files are now file.tar.gz on zslip
1445) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11539)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
linux links are broken. why is their extension .tar.tar? i also tried tar.gz, tar, or zip.

Sorry about that. I forgot to upload the .tar files to my site :/ They should be there any minute now.

The reason they are .tar.tar is because that is the format that the source is offered as here in MW. I hoped that you Linux people can handle .tar files :P

[edit] links are fixed. Linux 0.18d mkII are available


what I offer is .tar.gz
---> see

What you offer is appreciated mic - it all unpacks very nicely :)

1446) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11536)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
linux links are broken. why is their extension .tar.tar? i also tried tar.gz, tar, or zip.

Sorry about that. I forgot to upload the .tar files to my site :/ They should be there any minute now.

The reason they are .tar.tar is because that is the format that the source is offered as here in MW. I hoped that you Linux people can handle .tar files :P

[edit] links are fixed. Linux 0.18d mkII are available
1447) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11533)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks to speedimic, zslip now offers Intel optimized apps for Linux 32 and 64 bit. These are still based on version 0.18d and I've marked them as 0.18d mkII

zslip USA ........... zslip UK



Can you you please mark everything up to and including sse3 as Intel and AMD compatible...

No problem - it's done ;)
1448) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11523)
Posted 19 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks to speedimic, zslip now offers Intel optimized apps for Linux 32 and 64 bit. These are still based on version 0.18d and I've marked them as 0.18d mkII

zslip USA ........... zslip UK



1449) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11511)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
looks much better now!

I doubt those old Linux versions are of any than historical interest...


OK, I'll remove them then. I'd rather just have what is usable than confuse.

Hmmmm, I see 0.18d MK II need to go up ;)
1450) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11498)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You should mention cat /proc/cpuinfo for the linux CPU capabilities.


I certainly will do, but preferably by linking to that information here. If it's posted here in MW I'll add it to zslip or link back to here as appropriate.

1451) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU crunching question please (Message 11491)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I got a new 3850 Graphics card today and it's crunching along nicely. The question I have is this. Is it normal for it to now only use 50% or less of the CPU power?

Thanks in advance

Neal

Yes it is normal. Just crunch another project on the CPU alongside MW on the GPU if you want use the full potential of your system.
The goal is to reduce the used CPU resources in the future.

I'm crunching GPUGRID on a Core 2. BOINC manager tells me the GPUGRID WU is running with 0.03 CPUs and 1 CUDA. With the other 1.97 CPUs I have a CPDN Climate and a MilkyWay WU crunching.
1452) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11481)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've used some welcome coding from Exar Kun to improve the layout of zslip which hopefully will make it easier to use. I still need to tidy it up a bit, but the latest Windows and Linus apps are there. Just some historical Linux to add.

Thanks for your help Exar Kun, much appreciated ;)

1453) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11475)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I'm always pleased to take advantages of improvements, so if you're serious in that I can use the code for your table, I might just do that. Thanks ;)


I'm serious. It took me 5 or 10 minutes to do that, so it's not a big work ^^

Take everything you want. If you want me to do something else, do not hesitate ^^

(exarkun_AT_free.fr if you want to talk more about it)


I like that :)


Thank you ^^

Many thanks for that Exar Kun. I have imported your code into zslip.com and tweaked it just a little bit.

I think it's a great improvement - thanks ;)
1454) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11433)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You can take a look (it's an alpha version ^^) :

http://www.starwars-holonet.com/boinc/mw.html

Just to get an idea. You can take the code of course ^^

Well, it's certainly a well laid out table and easy to read.

I'm always pleased to take advantages of improvements, so if you're serious in that I can use the code for your table, I might just do that. Thanks ;)

1455) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11414)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's my personal opinion, but I think that a full list of compatible GPUs might be great, because I can read here and there some questions about the compatibility of cards. Maybe the label "HD38x0 or HD48x0" isn't clear for all people. Maybe something like this :

Compatible Cards :

- ATI Radeon HD 3840
- ATI Radeon HD 4850
- ATI Radeon HD 4870

Cluster > do not be offensed by my next question : do you want a simple html/css code to present your different pages ? With some nice tables, colors, etc. ?

If you do that, and it's in these MW forums, I'd be happy to link zslip to reference it.
1456) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 11408)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I want my RAC back :)


I want SETI to put my SETI credits back into my BOINC stats :(



1457) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11399)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I noticed something strange of the website (zslip.com) : the link for the ATI GPU app is labeled "Windows optimized apps (0.17 - latest, cuda)".

Cuda ?

I guess nvidias marketing has done its job ;)


lol. They probably want to change that :)

Haha, sorry about that. I'll get it changed later today when I can get to the site(s). I meant to put 'gpu' not 'cuda'.


Might want to put ATI because I think it will only work for certain ATI cards. You might want to mention which ones as well.

Yes, you are right. It needs to be differentiated from the 'general' Windows versions. I'll probably put the whole info; Windows optimized apps (0.17 - latest, Win64 GPU app for ATI HD38x0 or HD48x0 card and Catalyst 8.12 or 9.1 driver)

1458) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11396)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I noticed something strange of the website (zslip.com) : the link for the ATI GPU app is labeled "Windows optimized apps (0.17 - latest, cuda)".

Cuda ?

I guess nvidias marketing has done its job ;)


lol. They probably want to change that :)

Haha, sorry about that. I'll get it changed later today when I can get to the site(s). I meant to put 'gpu' not 'cuda'.
1459) Message boards : Number crunching : Site goes very slow at times? (Message 11395)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... you NEED chocolate; I'm a woman; trust me, I know :p


I'm not sure that 'NEED' is a strong enough word. I'm on an enforced no-chocolate diet (so I can binge on the stuff during a cruise in March/April), but I find myself being a secret chocolate covered peanut eater in the health shop.

It's a health shop, right?

:P
1460) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 11394)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
aahhhh!!, gotcha!

aahhhaaaaa!

but.... you're the one that brought this thread back to life... :P

OK, for a good reason; it's good to see MilkyWay in the 'attach' list ;)
1461) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 11370)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The misfit monster?


No, the yeti monsters

1462) Message boards : Number crunching : Site goes very slow at times? (Message 11366)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh goodness yes, I can LIVE on Snickers.


Don't tell the Milky Way people, but Snickers are my favorite too :)

You just can't beat a Boost

1463) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11359)
Posted 18 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Say is that Crunch3r's BOINC client?

I am not hosting any of Crunch3r's BOINC clients or anything of Crunch3r's on zslip.
1464) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11255)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
zslip now contains Windows and Linux optimized apps from version 0.16 onwards.

I have created a mirror so that zslip.com is hosted on a Linux server in the USA and zslip.net is hosted on a Windows server in the UK.

Both have the Windows and Linux apps of course ;)

1465) Message boards : Number crunching : ps_s20_X and ps_s21_X (Message 11214)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
[quote]Just because a majority of MW crunchers are smart enough to install the optimized app and the SETI lemmings are not, doesn't mean MW should be penalized.





That is because MW participants have had LOTS and LOTS of practice installing optimized apps sometimes twice a day :)



Let's say all crunchers are equal. But these with opti apps are more equal ;)

All ps_s21_X i've got so far were crunched smoothly.

Whatever I'm crunching is rattling through faster than a line of 'Vegas fruit machines spewing out dimes after all hitting jackpots.

When do we get to the dollar machines? :P
1466) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 11213)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi

Anybody out there know where I can get the old v0.16 optimised app for windows.
Since switching to v0.19 the work unit times on most of my machines have got longer (eg. from 390s to 540s, and 20mins to 35mins on the slower machines).
So I'd like to try reverting back to v0.16 to see what happens


I will put them back in zslip. I was thinking of keeping it simple by having only the latest window/linux versions, but then windows 0.16 is still valid and I would support people being able to choose if there is more than one version available.

I'll let you know when windows 0.16 is added back to zslip



Thanks Ice much appreciated

You're very welcome m4rtyn. zslip now contains all the Windows and Linux optimized apps from 0.16 onwards.
1467) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 11190)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi

Anybody out there know where I can get the old v0.16 optimised app for windows.
Since switching to v0.19 the work unit times on most of my machines have got longer (eg. from 390s to 540s, and 20mins to 35mins on the slower machines).
So I'd like to try reverting back to v0.16 to see what happens


I will put them back in zslip. I was thinking of keeping it simple by having only the latest window/linux versions, but then windows 0.16 is still valid and I would support people being able to choose if there is more than one version available.

I'll let you know when windows 0.16 is added back to zslip

1468) Message boards : Number crunching : ps_s20_X and ps_s21_X (Message 11187)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just because a majority of MW crunchers are smart enough to install the optimized app and the SETI lemmings are not, doesn't mean MW should be penalized.


I agree. We're smart ;)
1469) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 11088)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The monster is lurching.

LOL !
1470) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Any Requests? (Message 11076)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It is there now :-)

So it is. Cool :)
1471) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11073)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ok, I will anxiously stand by!

Thanks

Be anxious no longer, it's done :)

Windows v0.19 and Linux v0.18d are now updated to zslip

Thanks Cluster and speedimic :)
1472) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11070)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Unable to download anything from zslip. It gives a "page not found" error.

I guess Ice is just updating the Win apps.

Yes, that's true. I messed up the Windows links when updating the Linux, but with updating Windows to 0.19 it will be fixed very shortly...
1473) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11061)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What I would like to see is the ability to use my Nvidia in MW. I know you are using an ATI since it is faster, but I only have the Nvidia which I'd be interested in transferring from crunching on GPUGRID to MW.

Afaik, there is already a student starting to work on a CUDA app. As this is easier to work with, I guess we could see some results soon ;)
But don't expect times much below 25s per WU for nvidias GTX line. And older ones won't work at all (lack of double precision units).

25 secs? Blimey, hurry up student :)
1474) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 11058)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Cluster > If I understand correctly, your optimization uses "only" one core at a time, is that right ? Is it possible to use more core, so we can use only Milkyway on one computer with more than one core ?

The goal is actually to use not a full core (or even more), but maybe only 10% of a core or so. This way your CPU would be free to crunch something else.
If it is really wanted I could put in support for simultaneous crunching of MW on GPU and CPU. But this would have a low priority on my list.

What I would like to see is the ability to use my Nvidia in MW. I know you are using an ATI since it is faster, but I only have the Nvidia which I'd be interested in transferring from crunching on GPUGRID to MW.
1475) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 11056)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:



1476) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11049)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've updated zslip with the latest 0.18d Linux versions.

I have nominally assigned the Windows apps as version 0.16, and 0.17 for the app to be used with an ATI card.

1477) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 11047)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
just posted the new v18d Linux-apps in the code forum...

I'd best get this fantastic news posted up on zslip then ;)




All we need now is the Windows apps. <grin>
I've updated the Linux apps to zslip (thanks speedimic). I suspect the Windows 0.18 would be just as fast as the 0.16 ;)


Thanks to those folks who were generous enough to share their code with the project.

I fully agree. It's fantastic to see what they do, and a pleasure to use it :)

1478) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : Recompiled Linux 32/64 apps (Message 11046)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If someone feels like crunching full speed on linux, here are the new v18d apps.
Crunch time is cut to half compared to the prior version (on my quad at least...).

Linux32 Pack
(with new SSSE3-version)

Linux64 Pack

LinuxAMD Pack

Report problems & errors here...

The above has been updated to zslip, thanks speedimic ;)
1479) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 11030)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
just posted the new v18d Linux-apps in the code forum...

I'd best get this fantastic news posted up on zslip then ;)

1480) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 11001)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Now I just with I had some programming knowledge so I could do a optimized app for OS X.

I have 2 machines here on a 9% fix.

If it is an Intel Mac just run BOINC on Windows inside a virtual machine. You will loose less than 5% performance to a native Windows solution.

I'm still scratching my head over the use of a virtual machine.

I have a GPUGRID, a CPDN and a MW WU running on a laptop (that's 3 WUs on a Core 2) all performing well, the MW optimized WU being completed in just over 5 minutes.

At the same time I have a virtual machine running with 2 MW optimized WU's being completed 10 minutes or so.

That's 5 WUs on one Core 2 laptop, all chugging along pretty much quickly. Amazing!

Not really that amazing. After a while the virtual machine loses response and almost makes my laptop unusable as the whole thing grinds to a halt. The two BOINC managers are presumably grabbing all the PC resource.

1481) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 10998)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Optimized apps still only need to be bumped to v0.18.




lol. I suppose I could make it v0.16. I think all the optimized apps are doing correct checkpointing by then...

:) No, I think you should go with the increase in version numbers otherwise people are going to get confused with stock apps and op apps with different (lower) version numbers.

I hope it's not too much for those who compile the opp appz to recompile.
1482) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.18/v0.19 issues here (Message 10994)
Posted 16 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Optimized apps still only need to be bumped to v0.18.


1483) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10842)
Posted 15 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Now I just with I had some programming knowledge so I could do a optimized app for OS X.

I have 2 machines here on a 9% fix.

If it is an Intel Mac just run BOINC on Windows inside a virtual machine. You will loose less than 5% performance to a native Windows solution.

I'm still scratching my head over the use of a virtual machine.

I have a GPUGRID, a CPDN and a MW WU running on a laptop (that's 3 WUs on a Core 2) all performing well, the MW optimized WU being completed in just over 5 minutes.

At the same time I have a virtual machine running with 2 MW optimized WU's being completed 10 minutes or so.

That's 5 WUs on one Core 2 laptop, all chugging along pretty much quickly. Amazing!
1484) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10759)
Posted 15 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...the fact that the optimized applications chew through results very quickly, the fact there there is a very high concentration of Core2 (and newer) systems attached to this project, and the fact that "test applications" is opt-in only, a hundred "test" tasks really won't tell them much more than if they were to go out and purchase a single C2Q system and run one of the optimized applications on it for about 2 hours.

I'd like to understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that using optimized apps is no good, that you'd rather I returned a tenth of the WU's (and wasting my computer time and electricity bill in doing so when I could be using opt apps to be more efficient)?


No, you are taking the conversation out of context. What I'm talking about is the complaint by Banditwolf that the project should release "a hundred test units" out to everyone before releasing a new search / application. What I am saying is that doing that on a scale so small is of very little practical use. It may provide "feel good" / "public relations" points to some, but it would not be effective. If we wanted to talk about ten thousand test units, then perhaps it would be useful, but then you get into the idea of making a "test run" inside a project that is already supposed to be known to be at a stage where they are testing, which seems quite redundant...

People should understand that this project is not a "production" project. Several people are applying "rules of acceptable conduct" that would be acceptable to be applied to a production-level project to a project that has clearly stated multiple times that they are in alpha test mode. IMO, that's being a bit too demanding...however I have been speaking about this from the perspective that perhaps there is a misunderstanding about the nature of alpha projects and what is needed to be an effective test environment...


Oh, OK thanks, sorry for my misunderstanding. As far as I am concerned, and it's just my opinion, but I think what Travis and Dave have done so far is fine. Crashes and problems are all part of any alpha project such as this, as are volunteers who run PC resource for them who can accept a few knocks; no WUs, lost WUs, etc.
1485) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10755)
Posted 15 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...the fact that the optimized applications chew through results very quickly, the fact there there is a very high concentration of Core2 (and newer) systems attached to this project, and the fact that "test applications" is opt-in only, a hundred "test" tasks really won't tell them much more than if they were to go out and purchase a single C2Q system and run one of the optimized applications on it for about 2 hours.

I'd like to understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that using optimized apps is no good, that you'd rather I returned a tenth of the WU's (and wasting my computer time and electricity bill when I could be using optimized apps to be more efficient)?

I'm not really sure what the issue is concerning <<"test applications" is opt-in only>>

Nobody ever asked me about this and how am I supposed to know or that it matters? As it happens I have always had my "Run test applications?" to yes for MilkyWay, but I don't recall seeing anyone being encouraged to use this setting.

For those who don't know where this setting is, go to My Account, Resource share and graphics MilkyWay@home preferences,

Run test applications?
This helps us develop applications, but may cause jobs to fail on your computer - yes or no as you prefer.
1486) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10735)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks Ice, are the ones posted there based on the 0.18 release?

The Windows applications are based on the 0.07 release with the core computational parts transplanted from my modified version of the old 1.22 app (slightly tuned to allow better autovectorization by the compiler) and then some small modifications to get the checkpointing correct and the addition of the required signature string in the output file.

Most likely all I will do is to change the version number to 0.18 because the input and output file formats have not changed and the actual computation is probably also the same. But you don't have to worry about it, there were no new features added since 0.07 (besides the version string in the output).

I must admit that I wasn't sure what version to attribute the optimzed apps to and certainly don't want to get bogged down in version control. I had hoped to keep zslip.com to the latest op apps that were available and returning good results.

I am more than happy to include the Linux/AMD beta versions based on 0.18c, if that is the best way to label them.
1487) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 10657)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
To my Valentine, wherever she is ;)


1488) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10624)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

try using this link to get to Cosmo.

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/testsite/

Much easier on the eyes IMO.


MUCH better
1489) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10622)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Incidentally, I defy ANYONE to be able to use parts of cosmology@home's site correctly, you have to find a black button on black background in order to fill in form information (in black).

On my screen the background is lighter than the text boxes and the form text is white.

Ha, I know they'd be subtle shades of something very dark:P

Theres some page somewhere I tried to fill in, and couldnt stop laffing...

I just took a look - the black text box is blacker than the surrounding black form (OK, maybe slightly gray) so I can see where everything is. It just gets taking used to I suppose. But then I can guess that on some screens the differences in the black shading would be hard to work with.
1490) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10615)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Do you mean the front page where I've left the background blue?


Yea, last I checked it was still bright blue. Now it's maroon. Taken care of then.

No, I havn't changed the color yet, but I've been working on the text links as well as providing 'home' links on the other pages. I'll have a go at toning down that blue background now.
1491) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10612)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

you have to find a black button on black background in order to fill in form information (in black).


So....what's your problem.

:P


zslip does read better, the main part is still a tad hard to read though.

Do you mean the front page where I've left the background blue?

I'm with Phil on the cosmology web pages. I don't find it all comfortable to work with those black pages.

1492) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10610)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It might help some folk if it wasn't blue text on a blue background. Having text colour saet differently to the background colour does make it more readable (and I am sure there are people who find it hard to read but don't like to say anything...).


Thank you for that feedback Debs ;) I've updated the colors and hopefully it's more readable now.


That looks much better now, thanks for taking note of my comment. It's made a useful site much more usable :)

I'm glad you mentioned it. I've been tweaking one or two other things to perhaps improve it more. Thanks again for your feedback.

1493) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10601)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It might help some folk if it wasn't blue text on a blue background. Having text colour saet differently to the background colour does make it more readable (and I am sure there are people who find it hard to read but don't like to say anything...).


Thank you for that feedback Debs ;) I've updated the colors and hopefully it's more readable now.
1494) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10596)
Posted 14 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Whilst it's nice to have everything on one web page in http://www.zslip.com/milkyway, I have also put the Windows and Linux optimized apps in separate pages;

http://zslip.com/milkyway/windows.htm

http://zslip.com/milkyway/linux.htm

Hope this helps.

1495) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10505)
Posted 13 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What is zslip?

I've wondered that myself. A new type of lingerie perhaps?

Actually, it started out as the name of an invention. I dreamt up something to do with the prevention of something slipping, and came up with the product and website name 'zslip'. Who knows, maybe the invention will come of something and you'll all have to find another website to get your appz from :P
1496) Message boards : Number crunching : 3rd.in - optimized apps (Message 10456)
Posted 13 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
What is zslip?

zslip.com is a web site that provides additional download resource for optimized apps which have already been reported, or referred to, in the MilkyWay@Home forums.

These optimized apps are deemed to be providing good WU (work unit) returns because those that have created them, or reported them to MilkyWay@Home, have said so and that they include all the requirements specified by the MilkyWay@Home administrators. Additionally MilkyWay@Home administrators have said that these optimized apps are returning good results and include the requirements, in the MilkyWay@Home forums or as replies to individuals asking the question, or they have not said otherwise in the MilkyWay@Home forums.

zslip.com attempts to bring together all the current optimized apps for MilkyWay into one place, www.zslip.com (use of http://zslip.com is the same). It includes a link to where in the MilkyWay@Home forums the optimized app is referenced/reported.

Hopefully, zslip.com enables people to find the optimized apps quicker than trying to trawl through the various MilkyWay@Home forums to identify them and to confirm whether they are the latest or not.

zslip.com is a volunteer resource and in no way takes transfer of responsibility or liability of any of the optimized apps – it simply reports what is already there and provides a download for what is already there.

zslip.com includes links back to the MilkyWay@Home forums as to how to implement the optimized apps.

Co-operation to ensure zslip.com is up-to-date would be appreciated by posting in the MilkyWay@Home forums, this thread would be good, or by emailing zslip dot com at gmail dot com

1497) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10430)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Now, I am using BOINC version 6.4.5 and the familiar (Projects) file is not there. Where do we place the optimized files?

BOINC 6 splits the directories, so that the BOINC executables are in the Program Files\BOINC directory and the files that are written to a lot are in the separate data directory.

By default this data directory can be found at:
Win2k/XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\
Vista: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\

These directories may be hidden, so make sure to use Show hidden files and folders.

Thank you Jord. I have updated www.zslip.com to point to your very useful explanantion.

1498) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10428)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Okay, I've downloaded the optimized files (I have worked with them in the past, under a different version of BOINC Manager) Now, I am using BOINC version 6.4.5 and the familiar (Projects) file is not there. Where do we place the optimized files?

Try this, (found in zslip);

how to use CPU-Z and the optimized apps

(Copy the appropriate app_info.xml and astronomy....exe app file as appropriate
to your 'projects' file milkyway.cs.rpi.edu_milkyway.)
1499) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 10425)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's a good question. What I would say is that I have my share of old P4s contributing to MW ;)

My old P4 is at the local landfill. :/ Who knew.

I already had the HD, RAM and power supplies stripped out of my old P4s for possible reuse and the rest in a garage corner ready for the tip. When I saw how many credits there were to be had with the opp apps I managed to rebuild four of them with the bits. (Don't you just hate it when you turn off an old PC, and it never works again, not matter what you do with it?)

I never thought I would catch up or exceed my SETI credits so quickly. At the time of writing MilkyWay is about to become my highest scoring project.

1500) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10421)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm currently running Windows 7 beta 64bit, the opp app for x64 is causing computation errors!

I'm running nVidia graphics does that make a difference?

To cite the zslip.com site:
Milkyway_0.17_ATI_SSE3_x64.zip Win64 GPU app
with ATI HD38x0 or HD48x0 card and Catalyst 8.12 or 9.1 driver

It uses the graphics card for the computations and is simply not running on nvidia GPUs.

That's right, and the other four 64bit opp apps are for Linux, not Windows.

I hope this is made clear enough in www.zslip.com

Please let me know (as author of zslip) if I need to make it clearer. (email: zslip dot com at gmail dot com)
1501) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 10378)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
i feel if your machines can do the work

faster then soemone elses then you DAMN right you should be rewarded for it and not punished because some of the others are still running slow a$$ p3's or p4 single cores.... why we bigger better machines have to be downgraded to their level is beyond my comprehension. i worked Heavy construction all my life. now if a job was bidded for 1 month to complete and i could get it done in 2 weeks i got a BONUS for saving the company time and money.....

but now and here we have a SPEED LIMIT so us faster guys cant go as fast as we can why????? becasue the slower guys feel its unfair?????

It's a good question. What I would say is that I have my share of old P4s contributing to MW ;)
1502) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't get to scheduler (Message 10377)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I rebooted and it worked.

Next time try an ipconfig /flushdns first. It's essentially what a reboot does as well: clear the DNS cache. But I can assure you that the ipconfig method is way faster. Doesn't even need a restart of BOINC. ;-)


Hmmm... I've seen that mentioned before, but why would it work? I guess I'd need to enable stuff in cc_config to see where it was trying to go before and then again after...


What Ageless says is true and that was essentially why I told you to try to reboot.

His way may be faster, but it is so much easier to ask someone to reboot. Especially when that someone (not you Brian) may not know much about computers.

Absolutely. What Ageless says is;

1. click Start

2. click Run

3. type 'cmd' and press Enter

4. type 'ipconfig /flushdns' and press Enter

5. you will get the message 'Successfully flushed the DNS Resolver Cache.'

6. type 'exit' to close the command (cmd) prompt.
1503) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 10376)
Posted 12 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
That's about as crazy as searching for space aliens!

I have a shirt that reads "I saw Bigfoot sitting next to Elvis on the UFO".

I don't need the shirt. I've ridden public transit in Los Angeles.

I rode the London underground to the City for the last 3 days. You're so squashed up together you can't read any shirts. This was the announcement;

'Please let the passengers off the train'.... 'Please let the passengers off the train first'....... 'PLEASE let the passengers off the train first'....... 'let the passengers off the train FIRST!'...... 'Go on then, stuff yourselves in like sardines, see if I care, I'm going home.'
1504) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 10356)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
just fixed this.

Can we try it out? :P

Sure, just find any of Misfit's posts and fire away!!!

I knew that was coming eventually. I've circled today on my calendar to mark this glorious event.

Was it with a big bold red marker? Maybe I should go mark mine too. ;P

It was a gold marker with glitter.


Oooooo...sparkly....

Hmmm, now it gets more confusing.... a red X, which is actaully a white X with a red background, but drawn in sparkly gold...
1505) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10339)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Oh Barf :) The reporting of CPU capabilities is about the same between Windows and Linux. It's more about the age of the release than the originator. Accept the the deficiencies and adapt!

It's not about accepting deficiencies or adapting, but to know what to do with information and deciding on whether to rely on it or to use external programs, readily available and free, which give the information to base a decision about which optimized app to use.

What can (generally) go with XP or Linux is not as useful as a program which tells you about a computer's capabilities (eg, CPU-Z).
1506) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10337)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
BOINC reports what the operating system says your CPU can do. XP will report only up to SSE2, Vista up to SSE3. If your CPU can do better than that, CPU-Z will tell you about it and then you can use the optimized app that's compiled with the flags for those instructions. Same as with Seti.

Ah so what banditwolf said doesn't help us is choosing an optimized app, but let's us know what Bill Gates wants us to know? :P

In Boinc, Client state, I found this line near the top:
<p_features>fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx</p_features>

That lists the features my pc has. This might help those who don't know, I just now saw this. It might be good to post with the opti apps to figure out which to use.
1507) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10334)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
... Presumably I should go for CPU-Z and pick the optimized app for SSSE3 than go for the BOINC manager suggestion of SSE2 ?

CPU-Z wins!!! :-)))
Had the same issue here and I was very happy to find out my lappy is actually faster than BOINC thinks. *grin*

Interestingly CORI, my lappy is faster than BOINC thinks also. I get this from BOINC manager;

Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni mmx

and this from CPU-Z;

Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T

Not that I know what any of it means :/
1508) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10333)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, CPU-Z is more accurate. Go for it!

Yes I thought so to, and will do ;)
1509) Message boards : Number crunching : Little help for those using opti apps. (Message 10330)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I find this in my BOINC manager in the messenger tab;

||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx

but CPUZ gives me;

Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T

Presumably I should go for CPU-Z and pick the optimized app for SSSE3 than go for the BOINC manager suggestion of SSE2 ?
1510) Message boards : Number crunching : Red X (Message 10320)
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks, Dave...I had PM'ed Travis about it months ago. Glad to see it resolved

For the record, I also PM'd Travis about it 3 days ago, but not knowing you already had Blurf. Not that I know of anything that you do Blurf, since we have not had contact with each other for many months until very recently with just the odd PM concerning a matter raised in the last day or two.

Nice to hear from you again though Blurf ;)
1511) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 10278)
Posted 10 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've been taking a look at some of my credits returned recently.
I'm not sure if this makes for any valid comparisons, but these
are my calculations for credits returned per CPU sec (higher is better);

Project.......CPU sec.....Credit granted.....Credits per sec

GPU grid.....4,071.28.......2,478.99..........0.61

MilkyWay......509.75...........15.29...........0.03 (using optimized apps)

Cosmology...32,653.59.......140.00..........0.004

CPDN........1,067,728.33...5,184.00.........0.005

1512) Message boards : Number crunching : Modified app for Milkyway_17 (Message 10241)
Posted 9 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks Gavin.

Now all I have to sort out is why a program that was performing correctly without a cc_config.xml file four days ago, now needs one and with it actually processes THREE Milkyway units at once. Not bad for an E6850 that should be doing two milkyway and one CUDA

I'm also running 3 at a time on a laptop - a CPDN, a MilkyWay and a CUDA. And that's with the MW turning over a WU every 319 seconds or so. Nice laptop ;)
1513) Message boards : Number crunching : should be a bunch of work available (Message 10160)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So how does that work then? If I get less than 30 credits per WU (as in, less than half of 30 credits) then I'm being capped? How does it calculate that? Per core? Per PC? Per person?
Calculate your credits per hour to see. ie: a 90 min wu @ 30 credits is 20/hr, a 10 min wu @ 30 credits is 180 hr, which would be capped at 108/hr.
*edit* Take your credit divide by the seconds times by 3600 = credits/hr.

If I only had my PCs on 12/7 instead of 24/7 would I get 30 credits per WU? That is, half the time, double my current credits?


Whatever your rate is, it will be the same. I have been getting 19-20 credit/wu today. Not the 30 as Travis stated.

What I was really wanting to know with the capping, was - is there any circumstance where crunching more for MW doesn't get you any more credit, ie, you may as well crunch MW part time and another project (or two) part time to get more overall credit?


Not really, unless you're crunching WUs in about 90 seconds or less. That's around what it would take to hit the daily WU limit of 1000 per core.

Thanks for that Labbie. 90 secs? No chance. 5 minutes, maybe ;)

1514) Message boards : Number crunching : should be a bunch of work available (Message 10158)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
So how does that work then? If I get less than 30 credits per WU (as in, less than half of 30 credits) then I'm being capped? How does it calculate that? Per core? Per PC? Per person?
Calculate your credits per hour to see. ie: a 90 min wu @ 30 credits is 20/hr, a 10 min wu @ 30 credits is 180 hr, which would be capped at 108/hr.
*edit* Take your credit divide by the seconds times by 3600 = credits/hr.

If I only had my PCs on 12/7 instead of 24/7 would I get 30 credits per WU? That is, half the time, double my current credits?


Whatever your rate is, it will be the same. I have been getting 19-20 credit/wu today. Not the 30 as Travis stated.

What I was really wanting to know with the capping, was - is there any circumstance where crunching more for MW doesn't get you any more credit, ie, you may as well crunch MW part time and another project (or two) part time to get more overall credit?
1515) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 10155)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No more, this thread is now closed.

Tavis/Dave please close this thread and let people post their burnt out wrecks somewhere else.


click on photo for a larger version
1516) Message boards : Number crunching : should be a bunch of work available (Message 10149)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Edit:
Sorry, I forgot about the credit reduction. Wasn't 108 anymore.

Crap, it's still 108 per hour, what did I say...
Was really funny to see how the credits increased per every new WU I crunched.
Now I'm back on the limit of 108 credits/hour with this WU. :-)


So how does that work then? If I get less than 30 credits per WU (as in, less than half of 30 credits) then I'm being capped? How does it calculate that? Per core? Per PC? Per person?

If I only had my PCs on 12/7 instead of 24/7 would I get 30 credits per WU? That is, half the time, double my current credits?

Ohh, errr, this numeric stuff on a Sunday night when I'm trying to cram in 15 hours pre-course work before tomorrow morning, is just too much!
1517) Message boards : Number crunching : We're back (Message 10136)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, I don't seem to be getting any.


Be patient ES, we're all queueing for it.


Maybe the server wasn't careful about it, that's why it was sick for a few days.

When I started filling my caches not that long ago, an hour or so, the Results ready to send was above 7000. Within a few minutes it had dropped to below 700.

[edit] I'm not suggesting I cached over 6000 WUs - just watched the availability drop as I primed my PCs ;)
1518) Message boards : Number crunching : We're back (Message 10131)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, I don't seem to be getting any.



i think your personal life maybe considered off-topic.


add a :) and everything's OK.

Are you going to smile for us Esmerelda ?


You look like you got hit good with the ugly stick.

1519) Message boards : Number crunching : We're back (Message 10129)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, I don't seem to be getting any.



i think your personal life maybe considered off-topic.


add a :) and everything's OK.

Are you going to smile for us Esmerelda ?
1520) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 10127)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

PATA
1521) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 10091)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

slave
1522) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 10087)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

mammoth
1523) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 10083)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In North Yorkshire, with turf racing abandoned, the gallops at Middleham exercised the racehorses in deep snow.


1524) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 10080)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
tan


1525) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 10079)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well...

If all around here is like in SETI (credits, outages, etc...), I come back to SETI. Why I must been here if the thing is the same as in a 'real project'?

Depends if listening out for aliens is your thing, or if you get frozen out of SETI ;) The last part of which I've never tried to hide or deny, or give another toss about... , just in case anyone was wondering...


I like more to listennig the aliens...;)

Do you know what your work is doing here...?

Sure. It's all on the MW home page ;)

About MilkyWay@home

The goal of Milkyway@Home is to use the BOINC platform to harness volunteered computing resources in creating a highly accurate three dimensional model of the Milky Way galaxy using data gathered by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. This project enables research in both astroinformatics and computer science.

In computer science, the project is investigating different optimization methods which are resilient to the fault-prone, heterogeneous and asynchronous nature of Internet computing; such as evolutionary and genetic algorithms, as well as asynchronous newton methods. While in astroinformatics, Milkyway@Home is generating highly accurate three dimensional models of the Sagittarius stream, which provides knowledge about how the Milky Way galaxy was formed and how tidal tails are created when galaxies merge.

MilkyWay@Home is a joint effort between Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute's departments of Computer Science and Physics, Applied Physics and Astronomy. Feel free to contact us via our forums, or email astro [at] cs [dot] rpi [dot] edu.

... and more... ;)


:)

I think you don't knows....

I think you are very right Logan. I am not a scientist and I don't have a scientific background or capability. But it strikes me that via BOINC is a way I can do somthing for science which makes use of my interest in computers, instead of me taking up all my time playing computer games and compiling on-line photo sites ;)
1526) Message boards : Number crunching : Unable to attach my shared memory (Message 10078)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

...I finally have an opt. app. for Windows ! )

Can I have it to? To put on zslip.com ?

[edit] Sorry, I should have done that by PM. Please ignore this post [/edit]

[another edit] Kurt you have PM ;)


Hi Ice !

I answered your PM.

Cheers !

Kurt

Cheers Kurt. You enjoy that opt app ;)
1527) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 10076)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well...

If all around here is like in SETI (credits, outages, etc...), I come back to SETI. Why I must been here if the thing is the same as in a 'real project'?

Depends if listening out for aliens is your thing, or if you get frozen out of SETI ;) The last part of which I've never tried to hide or deny, or give another toss about... , just in case anyone was wondering...


I like more to listennig the aliens...;)

Do you know what your work is doing here...?

Sure. It's all on the MW home page ;)

About MilkyWay@home

The goal of Milkyway@Home is to use the BOINC platform to harness volunteered computing resources in creating a highly accurate three dimensional model of the Milky Way galaxy using data gathered by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. This project enables research in both astroinformatics and computer science.

In computer science, the project is investigating different optimization methods which are resilient to the fault-prone, heterogeneous and asynchronous nature of Internet computing; such as evolutionary and genetic algorithms, as well as asynchronous newton methods. While in astroinformatics, Milkyway@Home is generating highly accurate three dimensional models of the Sagittarius stream, which provides knowledge about how the Milky Way galaxy was formed and how tidal tails are created when galaxies merge.

MilkyWay@Home is a joint effort between Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute's departments of Computer Science and Physics, Applied Physics and Astronomy. Feel free to contact us via our forums, or email astro [at] cs [dot] rpi [dot] edu.

... and more... ;)
1528) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 10071)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well...

If all around here is like in SETI (credits, outages, etc...), I come back to SETI. Why I must been here if the thing is the same as in a 'real project'?

Depends if listening out for aliens is your thing, or if you get frozen out of SETI ;) The last part of which I've never tried to hide or deny, or give another toss about... , just in case anyone was wondering...
1529) Message boards : Number crunching : Unable to attach my shared memory (Message 10069)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

...I finally have an opt. app. for Windows ! )

Can I have it to? To put on zslip.com ?

[edit] Sorry, I should have done that by PM. Please ignore this post [/edit]

[another edit] Kurt you have PM ;)
1530) Message boards : Number crunching : Project down (Message 10065)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
omfg. the computer gods hate us :( yeah. more to come tomorrow when we figure more stuff out.

Things sound worse than upgrading from XP to Vista.

I tried it the other way, trying to dual boot XP on Vista - it kept blue screening. Hope the MW servers ain't blue screening...

Don't forget about food & sleep.

Yea, time for breakfast. And back to bed if you insist
1531) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 10059)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't know about being 'glad' with the project because I only recently joined. But it certainly is a worthwhile and interesting one.


Its certainly Interesting, especially at the times theres no work for the cruncher to do.

Like the Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times".

Not sure how I feel about losing 10 WUs. But hey ho. It's all part of the journey.


10? Well, then you can imaging how I feel having lost over 600 WUs.

600? Darn, and there was me fretting over only 300 or 400 :P
1532) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 10058)
Posted 8 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't know about being 'glad' with the project because I only recently joined. But it certainly is a worthwhile and interesting one.

Its certainly Interesting, especially at the times theres no work for the cruncher to do.

We try our best, eh?

<-- now that's a good winkie ;)


Its at times like this when more people could use a good winkie.

Glad you like it, I made it with stills from 'print screening' until I captured the images I needed to put together in a gif. The trick with the 'wink' was to offset the closed eye so the eyes appears to move forward. There's always fun to be had with images ;)

1533) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 9968)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I don't know about being 'glad' with the project because I only recently joined. But it certainly is a worthwhile and interesting one.


Its certainly Interesting, especially at the times theres no work for the cruncher to do.

We try our best, eh?
1534) Message boards : Number crunching : Project down (Message 9961)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

1535) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : Recompiled Linux 32/64 apps (Message 9856)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi mic,

I've added these to zslip

I hope that's OK


Sure.
Always good to have everything in one place.

cool ;)
1536) Message boards : Number crunching : We're back (Message 9855)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I never managed a double thread before. Double posts a few times by mistake, but how I managed a double thread is certainly a record for me, as it will be when my Milkyway credits exceed that of my SETI :P
1537) Message boards : Number crunching : new WUs (Message 9851)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No WUs coming through at the moment;

Database/file status
State #
Results ready to send 0
Results in progress 28,386
Workunits waiting for validation 0
Workunits waiting for assimilation 0
Workunits waiting for deletion 0
Results waiting for deletion 0
Transitioner backlog (hours) 0
1538) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9763)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


The Old Market Square in Nottingham as the UK prepares for a freezing weekend.
1539) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 9745)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I tried the zslip optimized application in my AMD 5200 X2 - Windows XP 64b but all the Wu crashed.
I'm asking if those applications are accepted by the project administrator !!!
Now I discard those application and return to a normal application.

http://www.zslip.com/



I did the same with a 64bit '03 intel server w/3.0 xeon's and cant get any of these apps. to work so I guess I'll go back to linux and PG.

I guess the problem was that the SSE3_x64 app on zslip.com was actually the GPU app for ATI cards.
Btw, there is a new version of it. I will post it in the code discussion forum.

Thanks Cluster Physik, I'll update zslip.com when I get to that code

[edit] zslip.com is updated with the above
1540) Message boards : Number crunching : We're back (Message 9719)
Posted 7 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nice to see the place up an running again ;)

Whoops, double post. Double credits? :P
1541) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9717)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A car is seen through snow-covered branches in Overseal, Derbyshire.


1542) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there an optimised app..... (Message 9712)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thank you Cluster Physik and arvisa2000. is updated

OK, so they have now been reported in this forum, they have been reported as tested, and Travis says they are OK.

So they are now in zslip

Maybe you should add a note to the SSE3_x64 labeled 64Bit Windows app, that it is actually a GPU app requiring an ATI HD38x0 or HD48x0 card and the Catalyst 8.12 or 9.1 driver.



ATI GPU's http://www.file-upload.net/download-1414247/Milkyway_0.16_GPU_SSE3_x64.zip.html


1543) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : Recompiled Linux 32/64 apps (Message 9704)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi mic,

I've added these to zslip

I hope that's OK


Looks like they're doing well. Haven't had a bad result come back with any compiled v0.16 app yet :)

Now then, the new recompiled v16 apps for Linuxs:

Linux32 on Intel

SSE3_32
SSE2_32
SSE_32

Linux64 on Intel

SSE3_64
SSSE3_64
SSE41_64

For AMD users:

AMD SSE3_64
AMD SSE2_32

I only had the chance to test the AMD SSE2_32 on my Athlon64 3200+, so the rest of the testing is up to you... Please report!

1544) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 9697)
Posted 5 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I'm pushing 50,000. That's only 2 days for Ice. :P

I'm pushing with every PC I can get near these days, even that Intel Atom that I go 4 WUs out of

I'm also trying to push along my CPDN as well as having a go with GPUgrid.
I think quite soon my electricity bill will arrive again and I just might be pushing switches off
1545) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there an optimised app..... (Message 9692)
Posted 4 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, so they have now been reported in this forum, they have been reported as tested, and Travis says they are OK.

So they are now in zslip

Noted and quoted. :)

Nice ;)

stderr out

<core_client_version>6.2.19</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>

</stderr_txt>
]]>


So how are "we" (and Admin) to know if these have been altered appropriately?


Shouldn't grant credit w/out the app name mod. And it's been out so Travis would have seen it. If it was 'bad' then he would have pointed it out right?



If it's been granting credit it should be fine. I don't know what the tag is for that application.

It's being granted credit and thanks for confirming it's fine Travis. The original source of these apps is a few posts down;

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=601&nowrap=true#9598
1546) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 9689)
Posted 4 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

One million



1547) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there an optimised app..... (Message 9677)
Posted 4 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
OK, so they have now been reported in this forum, they have been reported as tested, and Travis says they are OK.

So they are now in zslip

Noted and quoted. :)

Nice ;)


1548) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9672)
Posted 4 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Workers in London return to their jobs after two days of widespread disruption caused by the snow.


1549) Message boards : Number crunching : Too much WU! (Message 9671)
Posted 4 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi everybody, I'm from France (sorry about my english :P) and I currently crunch MW workunits on several computers.

However, since today (or maybe yesterday), it seems that the estimated time of every WUs is wrong (around 10 min instead of 1 or 2 hours)... Every computer crunching for MW has asked a lot of WUs to the server, thinking it won't be busy enough ^_^
Fortunately they hit the limit, which seems to be 12 WUs, but they're still asking for some WUs...

Hoping it will help, and sorry if this has already been reported

zerstorer

At the moment the download limit is 12 WU's per core, so it's not unusual to see this in your BOINC Manager Messages;

04/02/2009 14:18:56|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 1727143 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
04/02/2009 14:20:06|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
04/02/2009 14:20:06|Milkyway@home|Message from server: No work sent
04/02/2009 14:20:06|Milkyway@home|Message from server: (reached per-CPU limit of 12 tasks)
1550) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9646)
Posted 3 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A pelican hunkers down in St James's Park in London as the UK continues to struggle against its heaviest snowfall in 18 years.


1551) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there an optimised app..... (Message 9625)
Posted 3 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Before I go loading these up..

Have these apps been tested and approved and return valid results..

I don't see an "out" file associated with it so I can not tell.


Test results please.

I've done it some time ago. It was in the range Travis declared to be ok.


OK, so they have now been reported in this forum, they have been reported as tested, and Travis says they are OK.

So they are now in zslip

Cheers all ;)


1552) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9615)
Posted 3 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A snow teddy in East Dulwich, London.


1553) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9605)
Posted 3 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Icicles hang from roadside barriers on the A57 Snake Pass in Derbyshire.


1554) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 9574)
Posted 2 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
zslip is updated.

Hi Ice.
Only a little hint:
You should mention on the site that these are only Windows apps.
Someone could mistaken them for Linux ones. ;-)
The most who come there will know it from here, but just to make it sure. ;-)

Good point DoctorNow. Thanks!

zslip is updated again.



WTF. A username and password are required!



I do think those are outdated apps ---

Yes, the ones I had which now don't work since they don't comply with the rules set down by Travis. I am not including anything on zslip that is not posted on these boards first, and is current, i.e., working. As I said, I will be happy to provide an additional download source if it's wanted.
1555) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 9569)
Posted 2 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
zslip is updated.

Hi Ice.
Only a little hint:
You should mention on the site that these are only Windows apps.
Someone could mistaken them for Linux ones. ;-)
The most who come there will know it from here, but just to make it sure. ;-)

Good point DoctorNow. Thanks!

zslip is updated again.



WTF. A username and password are required!

Yes clever, isn't it. But even if you had the password there is nothing there since nothing has been posted on these boards (that is current) to be downloaded. When something is posted on these boards (that is current), then there might be something to download on zslip. I will be happy to provide the additional download resource again.
1556) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9556)
Posted 2 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Snow falls in Parliament Square, London.


1557) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9552)
Posted 2 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Angel of the North sculpture is seen amid snow-covered hills in Gateshead, Tyneside.


1558) Message boards : Number crunching : No work being D/Led & no warning messages (Message 9512)
Posted 1 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The cache runs dry, BOINC will not ask for more work until the cache is empty and the very last WU has been crunched.


I get this on all my Core 2/hyperthreading. I.e., it will not load any more WU's until the last one has finished. So there will allways be one crunching on it's own at the end of the 16 WU downloaded batch. But then it's only 15 because there is one always still there when the upload kicks in, even if its finished and uploading or waiting to report. 16 being the max you can ever have on 2 cores at any one time.

1559) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 9511)
Posted 1 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hi John Hunt, thanks for your very, very recent post here in the Recruitment Thread ;)

Hope you don't mind me using a different 'steam' picture.

FULL STEAM AHEAD!




Team England (Boinc) has risen to 93rd position in World Ranking !

1560) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9497)
Posted 1 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The first section of the roof support for the 2012 Olympic Stadium is put in to place at the site in Stratford, east London.

What will the seating capacity be?

It will be 80,000 - but much of this will be 'temporary' and the seating capacity will shrink to 25,000 after ther games. London opted for the temporary design because Games organisers considered an 80,000-seat venue was unlikely to pay its way after 2012 and could become a white elephant.

1561) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9492)
Posted 1 Feb 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Railway enthusiasts pack the platform at York station as the Peppercorn, the first new mainline steam locomotive to be built in
Britain for nearly 50 years, leaves for Newcastle on its first voyage with fare-paying passengers.



1562) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9439)
Posted 31 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Its been picked & is showing on my computer already!! ;-P

Thanks to all who picked it ;)




1563) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom (Message 9433)
Posted 31 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Has anyone crunched with one of these yet?

Now you know the secret of my rising RAC...




What kind of RAC can one expect from 1 Atom 330 setup?

The one I tried was hyper-threading based on a N270 processor rather than your dual core.
I think Phil's Sinclair ZX80 may well beat the one I tried for RAC, but then yours is Dual Core. Let us know how you get on with it.

1564) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9425)
Posted 31 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Depending on your theme it could look a bit dark.

I'll take a look at lightening it up a bit.

I've had a go, and it may well be more visible on a darker theme, but I'm not sure if it's an improvement.
I think the current version is more like the real Milky Way.

Here's the 'lighter' version;

Here's the current version;

Well it of course looks differently to the eye in a thread with a white background than it would with a black background. So in the thread I can see a slight improvement. Might be more in the browser.

On reflection I think that my favicon looks fine on a dark background;



And did you notice something else? Beat that!


You got me there.

Congrats if it's true ;)

1565) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9420)
Posted 30 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The first section of the roof support for the 2012 Olympic Stadium is put in to place at the site in Stratford, east London.


1566) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9419)
Posted 30 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Depending on your theme it could look a bit dark.

I'll take a look at lightening it up a bit.


I've had a go, and it may well be more visible on a darker theme, but I'm not sure if it's an improvement.
I think the current version is more like the real Milky Way.

Here's the 'lighter' version;

Here's the current version;

1567) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9415)
Posted 30 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Depending on your theme it could look a bit dark.

I'll take a look at lightening it up a bit.


1568) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9414)
Posted 30 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
IE7;

Tools, Internet Options, 'General' tab, Delete, Delete all...,
check 'Also delete files and settings stored by add-ins', Yes, OK,
close IE7 browser, open IE7 browser, navigate to MilkeyWay,

Voila! works every time.


1569) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9412)
Posted 30 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
looks like Dave got it set up :)

Excellent, I'm happy to see it now, too. :-)

Fantastic! I can't believe my favicon is on every page of MilkyWay :)

Thanks DoctorNow for organizing the voting and to Cori for the original idea.

Thanks to everyone for voting, and to Travis/Dave for placing the favicon on the MW site.

And thanks to me for making the favicon.ico and winning the competition ;)

If you don't see the favicon, try deleting the temporary internet files in your internet browser and restarting your browser.

1570) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Space in the news (Message 9368)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's snowing on Mars ...

High in the sky above Mars, it is snowing right now. Very gently snowing. The snow does not settle on the rubble-strewn
land below - not these days, anyway - but instead vaporises into the thin atmosphere long before it reaches the ground.



Cape St Vincent, one of the cliffs of the Victoria crater, Mars

1571) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9366)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Bump

The ico file is sitting there if it's wanted;

9.) - 19 >>> http://www.antonphotos.com/pix/mw-ico5.ico <<< (rename to favicon.ico)


Oh, but then I expect you can't have a favicon in a subdomain, or can you?

Googling tells me that you can; put the following link in your html pages between the "head" tags.

<link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://www.yourdomain.com/subfolder/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon">
1572) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9365)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The Hay Wain by John Constable, 1821

Constable's painting is based on a site in Suffolk, near Flatford on the river Stour. The hay wain, a type of horse-drawn cart, stands in the water in the foreground. Across the meadow in the distance on the right, is a group of haymakers at work. The cottage shown on the left was rented by a farmer called Willy Lott and stands behind Flatford Mill. Today, the cottage and river path are still much as they were in Constable's time.



1573) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom (Message 9354)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Has anyone crunched with one of these yet?

Now you know the secret of my rising RAC...


1574) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9352)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The Gateshead Millennium Bridge, on Tyneside, has been lit up red for Comic Relief to mark the launch of this year's Red Nose Day.



1575) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 9337)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Is anyone glad with the project?

Yes, I am.

Me to, especially when/if I get my first MW million :P

Will it be CPDN or MW where I get my next 1 million? I'm so excited!

1576) Message boards : Number crunching : Is anyone glad with the project? (Message 9324)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well... Please make your complains here...

I just don't understand why it's taking me so long to catch up to your RAC.

Respect to your credit Logan ;)
1577) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Space in the news (Message 9298)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

A Russian Express-AM44 communications satellite undergoes preparations at the
Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. The satellite is due to launch on 11 February.



1578) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 9296)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Not without pay, but close to it!


Gulp! I can't image anyone providing computer resource to a BOINC project like this and getting almost negligible credit results in return.
1579) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 9291)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Otherwise it's only another method to crunch more WUs without getting more credits from it.

You mean, like work without pay?

1580) Message boards : Number crunching : v0.17 for windows (Message 9288)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I am waiting for .21 you know the black jack game. Then I will recompile...

DD,

Please don't :/ The last time I went to Vegas I was beating the credit card machine for not giving me cash over my credit limit. That card scraping is addictive! :P


1581) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9266)
Posted 27 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Here's a bunch of kids. A team of explorers play a game of cricket in London's Trafalgar Square to launch their expedition
to Mount Everest to play the world's highest game of cricket near Everest base camp at 16,945ft (5,165m).




1582) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9238)
Posted 26 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
New Kids on the Block perform a concert at London's 02 arena. The band split in 1994 and reformed last year to release their latest album The Block.



1583) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : GPU app teaser (Message 9235)
Posted 26 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've just had a go at knocking out my first GPU WU which recently completed giving me nearly 4,000 credits.

I was very impressed, but much more so with the fact that all the while my laptop was churning out 2 MW WUs every 8 minutes or so, at the same time.

I knew VM would eventually let me squeeze out more.

But this is all nothing compared to how I now have an optimized signature with 6 images and 5 links. Who can beat that ? :P

1584) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 9218)
Posted 26 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Still no new favicon on this site.... boo-hoo! *CRY*



(How about this one... *LOL*)

The ico file is sitting there if it's wanted;

9.) - 19 >>> http://www.antonphotos.com/pix/mw-ico5.ico <<< (rename to favicon.ico)
1585) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9204)
Posted 26 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sculptor Anthony Smith is creating a statue of Charles Darwin as a young man, to be unveiled
at Christ's College, Cambridge, next month, the bicentenary of the scientist's birth.



1586) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 9154)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've just looked at the top 20 earners here at MW all with over 5 million credits, and not one of them is in Team England.

Damn
1587) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 9151)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And the credit tittles are for...:)

Credit titties? Do I get more with an optimized app?

Do they come in pairs?

If you have a dual core machine. You get 2 pairs for a quad. If you're using a single hyper-threaded core it can look a bit weird.

Since we are speaking scientifically, that would be a core hermaphrodite duo.

Mac of course.
1588) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 9102)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

A dog stands near washed up timber on a beach in Ramsgate, south eastern England.
Approximately 1,500 tonnes of the wood was lost from the Russian-registered cargo ship
Sinegorsk which issued an alert in rough seas off of the British coast on Monday morning.



1589) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Space in the news (Message 9084)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Nasa puts on show components from the Ares 1-X rocket, such as this launch escape tower.
The test flight in the summer paves the way for the introduction of the Ares 1, the vehicle
that will carry astronauts into orbit after shuttle retirement.



1590) Message boards : Number crunching : Jan 24 credit change complaints/comments here (Message 9080)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
And, to the comparation, in SETI, with AKV8 SSSE3 opti app I can get more than 35 - 40 credits/hour/core with an Q6600. (for to have an easy point of reference)

And with the same sse3 at milkyway you'll receive about 100!
So I would say the credits need to be halved another time!
And they would still be above the seti-level.


Yes, I think that is a good idea to halve only your credits if that will make you happy.

Perhaps if someone had a SSE3 optimized app, or had a stock app with SSE3 optimization incorporated into it, then I expect they could lose half and still be way up ;)
1591) Message boards : Number crunching : Jan 24 credit change complaints/comments here (Message 9009)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
In this time, I think 3D boys could help you with that... I can't say any more...:) Ask to him...

My German's not so good, but I've read every thread in Planet 3Dnow and no acceptable op app for mw to be seen :(


1592) Message boards : Number crunching : Jan 24 credit change complaints/comments here (Message 9007)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
fit your ad with all its links into a 250 char. sig and I'll be impressed :P

Easily done by resizing the images. I hope you have a magnifier.

So what compression ratio are you using? Will a milk bottle do?
1593) Message boards : Number crunching : Jan 24 credit change complaints/comments here (Message 8998)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, I have a complaint. What am I going to do with zslip now?

PS. I'm not complaining, but I've got 5 links and 5 images in my sig. Can anyone beat that? (gimme your optimized appz and I'll share my sig :P )

Yes, my ad beats your sig in both images and links. :P

fit your ad with all its links into a 250 char. sig and I'll be impressed :P

It would be nice for Travis to settle on a stock app version so the optimizers know which app to base their code on.

Fair credits for fair crunching. Give me a huge credit premium with optimized apps and I'm sure to crunch here. Otherwise I probably will anyway, but give a PC or two over to other projects as well.
1594) Message boards : Number crunching : Jan 24 credit change complaints/comments here (Message 8984)
Posted 25 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, I have a complaint. What am I going to do with zslip now?

PS. I'm not complaining, but I've got 5 links and 5 images in my sig. Can anyone beat that? (gimme your optimized appz and I'll share my sig :P )
1595) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8917)
Posted 23 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The crowd during the Demolition Ball at the Astoria Theatre which marks the final night of the legendary music venue on Tottenham Court Road.

The Astoria is one of 13 buildings to be knocked down in the Tottenham Court Road area of central London to make way for a £16bn rail development.




1596) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Space in the news (Message 8916)
Posted 23 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
An H2A rocket, carrying Gosat, the world’s first greenhouse-gas monitoring satellite, launches from the Tanegashima
Space Center, southern Japan. Gosat will be followed into orbit by a Nasa carbon mission next month.


1597) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8869)
Posted 22 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Surf's up on the east coast as surfers enjoy perfect conditions to ride waves in Scarborough.


1598) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8734)
Posted 20 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Staffordshire artist Pete Mason used recycled postage stamps
to create this portrait of Barack Obama, which has been
completed in time for his inauguration as US president.




1599) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8725)
Posted 20 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hey Ice, you all right? no picture today...?

He might be busy with Kate Moss.

I wish. Here's another bird. A rare visitor from the Arctic, a snowy owl, has been attracting birders to Cornwall.


1600) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8646)
Posted 19 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
200th post! Wow these new apps are faster!

The admins have set a credits limit of 108 credits per core/hour.

7 min a wu on my system. 60/7*12.5(aprox)=107. Ooooh. :D

8 min 34 secs per WU on my Core2.

But then its running 2 WUs at a time so I must on average be turning over a WU every 4 minutes and 17 seconds on my Core2. (Previously with the stock app it was approx. 35 minutes on average)

1601) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Space in the news (Message 8627)
Posted 19 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The spectacular sight of a Delta IV Heavy moving away from the launch pad at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. Sunday's (GMT) flight carried a classified military payload into space. The rocket is the biggest expendable launcher in the US fleet.


1602) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : O'Sullivan 9 - Selby 8... (Message 8626)
Posted 19 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Frame 18 and the 2nd rerack... they make me look tired tomorrow!

What was wrong with the first 2? I caught the begining of the third, but what was on second? or first?
1603) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 8570)
Posted 18 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

4 million BOINC credits overall.

Do I get the gold watch yet? :P



1604) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8569)
Posted 18 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
zslip is updated.

Hi Ice.
Only a little hint:
You should mention on the site that these are only Windows apps.
Someone could mistaken them for Linux ones. ;-)
The most who come there will know it from here, but just to make it sure. ;-)

Good point DoctorNow. Thanks!

zslip is updated again.


1605) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8566)
Posted 18 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Near Friday Street, Surrey


click photo for a larger version
1606) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : MilkyWay companion project (Message 8564)
Posted 18 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
If you're looking for a list of BOINC projects for inspiration you could try Choosing BOINC projects, although surprisingly this doesn’t include MilkyWay :/

BOINC projects are also listed in boinc.mundayweb.com (scroll down to 'Supported Projects:') and in BOINCstats
1607) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8541)
Posted 17 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


You are welcome.

I have found a faster SSE2 app.It is about 20% faster than the SSE2_V2 app.

MW_SSE2_V3

Original app:
fitness: -3.046272445362277

MW_SSE2_V3:
fitness: -3.046272445362275

have fun

LB

Thanks again LB. It certainly is faster :) zslip is updated.


1608) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8538)
Posted 17 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Supermodel Kate Moss celebrates her 35th birthday today.
She is pictured here in 1999 backstage during London Fashion Week.



1609) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8536)
Posted 17 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
You can try the SSE MW_SSEV2.zip app.It should be 25% faster than the SSE2 astronomy_sse2_app.

Original app:
fitness: -3.046272445362277

SSEV2:
fitness: -3.046272445362275

@ICE
You can delete the SSE2 astronomy_sse2_app.rar.It is the same,but slower.

LB

Thanks for that LostBoy. I've updated zslip.com

Cheers


1610) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8510)
Posted 17 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A reminder on how to use CPU-Z;

On www.zslip.com you will find a link to CPU-Z. Download that and run CPU-Z on your PC.

Under the CPU tab in CPU-Z the 'Instructions' may show SSE, SSE2, SSSE3...

If all are included you can use SSE3, but if only SSE and SSE2 then only use SSE2. Use SSE if the other 2 do not appear.

Shut down your BOINC manager. Copy the appropriate app_info.xml and astronomy....exe app file as appropriate
to your 'projects' file milkyway.cs.rpi.edu_milkyway.

Restart BOINC.

In your BOINC Manager, under the 'Messages' tab, check that "Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform"
appears in the first few lines. This confirms that BOINC is using the optimized app.
1611) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 8507)
Posted 17 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Can't we create one out of a picture of th milky way ???


Of course you can. But you might end up with a tiny black square.

I've had another go at one based on the backdrop in www.zslip.com:-

Put it up there with the url and I think it might look OK ;)


1612) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8504)
Posted 17 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
At least my SSE3-App I linked to in this thread does not suffer from any of these shortcomings ;)

I for one am grateful for you making this available Cluster Physik.

I've already added it to www.arizmoon.com which I will be updating now with what I think are the 'correct' SSE2 and SSE apps.

OK, I've updated www.arizmoon.com with what has been agreed in this thread as usable optimized apps for SSE, SSE2 and SSE3.

Please let me know if I'm wrong, thanks.

I have moved my additional download resource to www.zslip.com


.
1613) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8499)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Great Britain's Danusia Francis competes in the Women's Artistic Gymnastics
during the Australian Youth Olympic Festival 2009 at Sydney Olympic Park.



1614) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8479)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
At least my SSE3-App I linked to in this thread does not suffer from any of these shortcomings ;)

I for one am grateful for you making this available Cluster Physik.

I've already added it to www.arizmoon.com which I will be updating now with what I think are the 'correct' SSE2 and SSE apps.

OK, I've updated www.arizmoon.com with what has been agreed in this thread as usable optimized apps for SSE, SSE2 and SSE3.

Please let me know if I'm wrong, thanks.
1615) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8477)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Heres what I got for the SSEv2 zip

Optimized
fitness: -3.046272445362275

Stock
fitness: -3.046272445361065


So are these results too different?


Would be interesting to know if the app still suffers from the memleak that was 'build in' to the stock app and what's more important, if it still cuts off significant numbers when restated form a checkpoint like the stock app does (which of course makes the result invalid )


At least my SSE3-App I linked to in this thread does not suffer from any of these shortcomings ;)

I for one am grateful for you making this available Cluster Physik.

I've already added it to www.arizmoon.com which I will be updating now with what I think are the 'correct' SSE2 and SSE apps.
1616) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8468)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Gonna try re-attaching with one SSE3 box. If I end up losing points I will shut it back down.


I've been running with the latest SSE3 app all day without problems. The WUs are taking slightly (minimally) longer, but it's still turning WUs around far faster than the stock app.
1617) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8459)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
An aerial panorama view of the ongoing work at the Olympic Park in Stratford, London.


1618) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8457)
Posted 16 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Travis/Dave

Part of the assimilator update allows us to track users that repeatedly return invalid results and stop awarding credit to them


How quickly do you guys expect this assimilator update to pick up users returning invalid results and stop awarding credit?

Is it very soon (<1 day) or more?

And are you going to tell them or let them continue unaware?
1619) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8396)
Posted 15 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
HMS Ark Royal goes past the Gormley Statues at Crosby Beach, Merseyside before she docks in Liverpool.


1620) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8393)
Posted 15 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I will put zip alternatives on www.arizmoon.com for the rar downloads later this evening.


This done. In the spirit of improving and sharing ...

www.arizmoon.com provides an additional download site for those who need it. Thank you.
1621) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8346)
Posted 15 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The zip and rar files made available earlier by sandro (except for the one that had no app_info file) can be downloaded from one of my web sites here;

www.arizmoon.com

The apps are...... amazing!!! You'll be over the moon with them ;)

Thanks again for the original links sandro, and to Gipsel and twodee for making them.



ICE I'm a bit confused on what file I should have. I have an AMD x2 6400 and it has SSE,SSE2,SSE3. I think I need to go with SSE2 so that the other system can run it without my getting confused about who has what or where. Oh and I don't use winrar... sigh

Well that was fast. Nothing like having a ton of computer errors and it sending them in so fast that it was hard to stop it. Hard to detact and thankfully put my backup I made back on that I had made just before I tried this little experiment.. EXTRA SIGH

Arion, on www.arizmoon.com you will find a link to Cpu-z. Download that and run CPU-Z on your PC.

Under the CPU tab in CPU-Z the 'Instructions' may show SSE, SSE2, SSSE3...

If all are inluded you can use SSE3, but if only SSE and SSE2 then only use SSE2. Use SSE (MW_SSEV2.zip) if the other 2 do not appear.

There are two options for SSE2 (MW-SSE2.rar and in MW.rar) because two options are available.

I will put zip alternatives on www.arizmoon.com for the rar downloads later this evening.

... my RAC is going balistic compared with just over a day ago... ;)
1622) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8317)
Posted 14 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The zip and rar files made available earlier by sandro (except for the one that had no app_info file) can be downloaded from one of my web sites here;

www.arizmoon.com

The apps are...... amazing!!! You'll be over the moon with them ;)

Thanks again for the original links sandro, and to Gipsel and twodee for making them.
1623) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8314)
Posted 14 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The sun rises through mist over frost-covered fields near Wotton-under-Edge in Gloucestershire.


1624) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8305)
Posted 14 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1319985/MW_SSEV2.zip.html
SSE2+SSE3
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1320653/MW.rar.html

these I get what looks to be an error saying too many requests.

I'm not surprised. They'll be a bit of a rush on for these I expect ;) I'm down to a shade over 8 minutes for a WU that just a little while ago was taking an hour and 8 minutes
1625) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8302)
Posted 14 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
banditwolf, there is an app_info file for all SSE, SSE2 and SSE3 in the downloads (one download has it missing, but all can be found in sandro's links - you don't have to make any app_info files)


I went with the 2nd sse2, only the exe file. The first is a .rar file. I don't know how to extract that one.

Cripes! get winzip or winrar quick - WUs that took over an hour an hour ago are now rolling off at under 20 minutes on my core 2 duo.
1626) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8300)
Posted 14 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
banditwolf, there is an app_info file for all SSE, SSE2 and SSE3 in the downloads (one download has it missing, but all can be found in sandro's links - you don't have to make any app_info files)

I'm using all 3 and they all seem to be working OK.
1627) Message boards : Number crunching : New faster application? (Message 8297)
Posted 14 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks sandro, your links are much appreciated.

I've only just started to try them out and can see everything ticking away faster. What was indicating at over 1 hour to complete is now showing at under 40 minutes. Not very scientific I know, but they seem to be doing the trick...
1628) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8268)
Posted 12 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Nice photo WikiWill. This one is of sea coal being scraped from a beach in Hartlepool and loaded on to a truck.
Coal is dumped on the beaches from seams out at sea and provides income for those prepared to brave the elements.



1629) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8250)
Posted 11 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Roe deer pick their way through the frost in Richmond Park, London


1630) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8247)
Posted 10 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Adding detail to a penguin ice statue ahead of London's first ever ice sculpting festival at the Natural History Museum, Kensington, London.


1631) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else, part II (Message 8237)
Posted 9 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This thread continues from here


click on photo for a larger version

Sunset over Bracklesham Bay, West Sussex.
1632) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8236)
Posted 9 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
No more, this thread is now closed and continues here. Thanks for looking :)


click on photo for a larger version

Thanks Ice for all those really nice pictures - alway a pleasure coming to this thread!

What about an England II -thread, this one loading slower and slower the last days...

Thanks for your comments mic - I've started a new thread ;)
1633) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 8231)
Posted 9 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

1634) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8227)
Posted 8 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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The London Eye and Houses of Parliament are silhouetted by the winter sun over central London.


1635) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8220)
Posted 7 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Gulls in Sandbanks, Poole Harbour, Dorset, where the sea has frozen due to extreme low temperatures.


1636) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8218)
Posted 7 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A horse is led from the stables through the snow in Stanhope in County Durham


1637) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8206)
Posted 6 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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The sun rises over Wembley Stadium on a cold morning in north London.


1638) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8201)
Posted 6 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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The Royal Navy submarine HMS Starfish passes Tower Bridge in London on its way to St Katharine's Dock, 7 May 1937.


1639) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8196)
Posted 5 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A woman and her 3-year-old daughter feeding seagulls on the promenade during their holiday in St Ives, Cornwall, July 1957.


1640) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8190)
Posted 4 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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The Queen Mary 2 sails near the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor to meet the QE2.
The QE2 was making it's expected last visit to New York before being converted into a five-star hotel in Dubai.



1641) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8187)
Posted 4 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Frost covers some hawthorn berries as cold weather takes over Oxfordshire.


1642) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8175)
Posted 4 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Ice on the runway: Geese slide to a halt on a frozen pond in Wanstead Park, London.



Click on photo for a larger version
1643) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8170)
Posted 3 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Kent, England: A green heron, native to north and central America, was
spotted on West Hythe's royal military canal last weekend. The bird, which
has not been seen in the UK since 2005, is believed to have been blown
across the Atlantic while migrating along the east coast of North America.



1644) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8160)
Posted 3 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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This 10ft ice sculpture in Skelmersdale, Lancashire, was created by cars splashing in puddles at the side
of the road and the chill turning the water spray into icicles.



1645) Message boards : Number crunching : Vote for the MilkyWay favicon! (Message 8158)
Posted 3 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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What is the advantage of a favicon, and why do we need one?

It looks to me like an completely unnecessary bit of bling with the same worth!

Really?

If you go to the SETI home page you will see a little man on an "@" sign to the left of the SETI@HOME url. It is the seti favicon. Other projects also have a favicon. I have a camera favicon for my photography site - www.antonphotos.com - which is based on my Canon EOS 40D camera.

On the Milkyway home page you will see the microsoft 'standard' browser favicon to the left of the MilkyWay url.

If you think it is unnecessary 'bling' and instead a boring microsoft favicon should be displayed here, then that is your opinion.

I prefer Cori's opinion and have enjoined seeing her favicons and creating my own suggestions (for which I have all the .ico files which the admin here are welcome to :)

I will vote for no. 3 - nice one Cori :)
1646) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8148)
Posted 2 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Leicester, England: A woman walks through Victoria park during heavy fog.


1647) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8144)
Posted 2 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Horse riders brave the freezing cold weather to go for a ride along the beach at Breen in Somerset.


1648) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching Virtually via VM (Message 8143)
Posted 2 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Just setup everything within a VM environment on one of my quad core boxes and it is running smoothly. Anyone else run projects on virtual machines (vm)?

I've experimented with VMware on a core 2 duo. I'm not sure if the increased number of WU's running slower, and making everything else slower, is actually turning wu's around faster than just the 2 at a time.

I'd be interested in you thoughts on whether VM can increase overall crunching.
1649) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8139)
Posted 2 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A crisp layer of frost covers the Lickey Hills of Birmingham on New Year's Day.

1650) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8138)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Ducks waiting for the ice to melt on the pond, Dartford, Kent.


1651) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8136)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Icicles hang from a farm fence close to Etherow Country Park in Stockport, Greater Manchester.


1652) Message boards : Number crunching : Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 8133)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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The one that links to www.ic3.me

Yes, it is ;)
1653) Message boards : Number crunching : Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 8132)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Thanks for the advice. I actually want to run CPDN as an extra project rather than just a backup, so will take Cori's advice and occassionally suspend CPDN to get MW to request work.

I'm not too bothered about it since it is only happeneing on the one pc, and once the CPDN WU has finally done I will probably delete the Boinc installtion and start with a fresh one.

Thanks again banditwolf, Alinator and Cori.
1654) Message boards : Number crunching : Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 8130)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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@ Ice, in your sig. that's the One ring right?

This one?
1655) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 8122)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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pain
1656) Message boards : Number crunching : Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 8121)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Is your debt off in Boinc?

Wot's that?

Seriously, I have no idea. But everything works fine on my other PCs, except for the one which won't request new work whilst trying to share with climateprediction.
1657) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 8118)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Happy New Year from Team England. These fireworks explode over the London Eye on the bank of the
River Thames in London to mark the start of the New Year.



1658) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8117)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Fireworks light up the London skyline around the London Eye and Big Ben
during the spectacular 10-minute display which heralded the start of 2009.


1659) Message boards : Number crunching : Requesting 0 seconds of work (Message 8116)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I have MilkyWay set up with a resource share of 1000 (90.91%) and climateprediction (my 'backup' when MW sends no WUs) at 100 (9.09%).

The trouble is, on one of my PCS, it won't request any MW work.

01/01/2009 11:08:49|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 14 completed tasks
01/01/2009 11:08:54|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks


But when I suspend climateprediction, it does;

01/01/2009 11:09:09|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1734956 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
01/01/2009 11:09:14|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 14 new tasks


Any ideas why MW won't play with climateprediction?
1660) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 8115)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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~ Doolittle
1661) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 8114)
Posted 1 Jan 2009 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Happy New Year Misfit, and to all BOINC Synergys ;)







1662) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8107)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A final look back at 2008 - a Happy New 2009 everyone ;)

Ukrainian actress Olga Kurylenko arrives for the world premiere of the latest James Bond movie
'Quantum of Solace' at Leicester Square in London.



1663) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8105)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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New Year will arrive a second late when time across the globe is adjusted to account
for the changes in the Earth's rotation. That extra second will make 2008 – already
long with an extra day on Feb 29 – the longest year since 1992.



1664) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8101)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A stag stands at a frozen watering hole in Knowsley Safari Park in Sefton, Merseyside.


1665) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8099)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Looking back at 2008;

Sachin Tendulkar of India hits out against the bowling of Grame Swann during day 5 of the First Test Match between India and England
at the MA Chidambaram Stadium, India. December 15.


1666) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8092)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Looking back at 2008;

Top seed Phil Taylor in the PDC World Darts Championships at Alexandra Palace, 29 December in London.



1667) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8088)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

Rebecca Adlington (left) who is made an OBE in the New Year Honours list, and Joanne Jackson (right)
of Great Britain celebrate finishing first and third respectively in the Women's 400m Freestyle Final
at the National Aquatics Center on Day three of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on 11 August .



1668) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8082)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

A man dressed as a city gentleman walks across a tightrope in London's financial district 12 November.



1669) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8078)
Posted 31 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

City workers make phone calls outside the London Stock Exchange in Paternoster Square in the
City of London at lunchtime 1 October.



1670) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8075)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A marching band from Slinger High School, Wisconsin, in the US, performs in front of the National Gallery,
in Trafalgar Square, London, as part of a warm-up concert ahead of the New Year's Day Parade.



1671) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8074)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

A woman places a bet before the start of the first race of the Epsom Derby Festival at
Epsom Downs in Surrey, 6 June .


1672) Message boards : Number crunching : Why don't we have a Milkyway favicon here? (Message 8073)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I've had another couple of tries at a 'sprial' version;

This my first try for comparison;
1673) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 8068)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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~ replicant (in the film Blade Runner)
1674) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8066)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

A young gunner falls from her mount during the gallop as part of a 41 gun royal salute by The Kings Troop Royal Horse Artillery
in Hyde Park on 21 April in London. The uninjured trooper got to her feet with a smile to rejoin her troop. The tradional salute,
also marked by a gun salute at Tower Bridge, marked Queen Elizabeth's 82nd birthday.



1675) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 8065)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

mentor
1676) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8063)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Looking back at 2008;

Barack Obama speaks to the media outside Number 10 Downing Street after meeting with Gordon Brown on 26 July.



1677) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Word Link (Message 8062)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

pupil
1678) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8060)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Looking back at 2008;

Gordon Brown meets with Barack Obama at the British Embassy, 17 April in Washington, DC.
The Prime Minister met with all three of the presidential candidates before spending the
afternoon at the White House for meetings with US President George Bush.



1679) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8056)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

April 16, New York. It might have been the jet lag or the speeches or even the backbiting at home -
but even Gordon Brown’s loyal aides can’t revive him at a meeting of the UN Security Council in Manhattan.



1680) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8055)
Posted 30 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Reindeer at Knowsley Safari Park, in Merseyside, on a frosty winter morning. Temperatures are expected to stay below zero
at night across most parts of England over the coming days.



1681) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8053)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

Aeroplanes and Parliament again; The Royal Air Force Red Arrows fly in formation with four Typhoon aircraft over central
London on 1 April to mark the start of a year of events commemorating 90th anniversary of the formation of the RAF in 1918.



1682) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 8052)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Happy New Year


1683) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8051)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

A protestor waves a paper aeroplane as she occupies the roof of Parliament on 27 February in London.
The demonstrators from action group 'Plane Stupid accessed the roof by climbing the fire escape,
they unrolled banners reading 'BAA HQ' and 'No third runway'.



1684) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8045)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looking back at 2008;

Prince Harry sits on his camp bed in the Helmand province, southern Afghanistan on 2 January 2008.
The government withdrew Prince Harry's from Afghanistan, where he had been deployed with the army
for 2-1/2 months, following leaks in the international media that he was deployed there.



1685) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8042)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks too all who contributed and looked in here. Happy New Year to you all :)

Here's looking back at 2008;

The Golden Globes kicked off the entertainment year on 13th January. Atonement, starring Keira Knightley
was named Best Motion Picture. Keira Christina Knightley was born in Teddington, London.


1686) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8039)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Swimmers feel the chill while others dive into the Serpentine river in Hyde park in London.
The Serpentine Swimming Club meet every Christmas Day for the "Peter Pan Cup" Christmas
morning swim over 100 yards.



1687) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 8038)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Well my friends, the panic mode is off...


Merry Chrismas and a happy new year to all.


Best regards from Barcelona (Spain).

Happy New Year to you Logan ;)


1688) Message boards : Number crunching : Why don't we have a Milkyway favicon here? (Message 8035)
Posted 28 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Or a tiny little real Milkyway... ;-)))


Or even like one of these? ;)
1689) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8034)
Posted 28 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A Santa surfer keeps a watchful eye out for troubled swimmers during the annual Christmas Day swim in Brighton, East Sussex.


1690) Message boards : Number crunching : Why don't we have a Milkyway favicon here? (Message 8032)
Posted 28 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

How about this one?

1691) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8026)
Posted 28 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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British soldiers opening gifts during Christmas celebrations at the Shatt al-Arab camp in the southern Iraqi port city of Basra.


1692) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 8018)
Posted 27 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have had no work for about 1 day now!


Sorry about that guys, i started up some new searches when i noticed the old ones had ended. Things are pretty busy with the holidays and all.

No worries Travis, hope the holidays are being nice for you as well as busy - Happy New Year
1693) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 8017)
Posted 26 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Igloo and Icicle, African goat kids born yesterday on Christmas Day at Crealy Park Adventure Park, near Exeter, Devon
1694) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7999)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Last-minute shoppers in London's Carnaby Street are overlooked by large inflatable snowmen.
1695) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7993)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Clocking a staggering 180mph, 14 times TT winner John McGuinness
1696) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 7992)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Plenty of food here...


1697) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Merry Christmas !!!!!!! (Message 7987)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Happy Christmas everyone! :)
1698) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7981)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Happy Christmas everyone! :)



Teddy the donkey and Anna Usborne leave the roads and traffic behind, as they make their way with Christmas presents up the paths of Chalford, Gloucestershire.
1699) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7976)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A capuchin monkey with a Christmas present at Twycross Zoo, Leicestershire.
1700) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7974)
Posted 24 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Kauto Star heads a quality field of 11 for the Stan James King George VI Chase at Kempton, Sunbury-on-Thames, on Boxing Day.
1701) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 7969)
Posted 23 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

1702) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7953)
Posted 23 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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A glimpse back at 2008; Rebecca Adlington, born in Mansfield, England, won gold medals at the Beijing Olympics in the 400m and 800m freestyle, breaking the world record in the latter. Her medals were part of Great Britain’s best Olympic medal performance for 100 years.
1703) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 7952)
Posted 23 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
That is the one nice thing about running longer wu's ie: 10+ hours each...

10 hours? Try Climate CPDN - one of these WUs can keep a PC occupied for weeks.
1704) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 7945)
Posted 23 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Maybe BOINC could put in an option to automatically go to a 2nd project (of your choice) when it detected that no work was being done, and then to a 3rd option if no work was being done on the 1st and 2nd, and so on.
1705) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7938)
Posted 23 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Velile Tshabalala is about to star alongside David Tennant and David Morrissey in the Doctor Who Christmas special.

The 24-year-old plays chirpy cockney Rosita in the adventure set in Victorian London.

1706) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Nevermind (Message 7932)
Posted 23 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Малих, середніх або великих - дуже добре, якщо ви купуєте
1707) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 7926)
Posted 22 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

1708) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7925)
Posted 22 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Three couples walk through Covent Garden, London, wearing bodypaint
1709) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7923)
Posted 22 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Fantastic photos, thanks for sharing them with us all.


Cheers Rick :)
1710) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Nevermind (Message 7921)
Posted 22 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Kanske kan du äta mindre bullersamt och avvara oss
1711) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7904)
Posted 21 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Two reindeers, Jingle and Belle, arrive at Bristol Zoo just in time for Christmas.
1712) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7901)
Posted 21 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Naughty or nice? The Cheeky Girls, twin sisters Monica and Gabriela Irimia, get in the festive season as they decorate their London home.
1713) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7899)
Posted 21 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


This night-time view of London shows how the population density rapidly drops off from the city's bright urban centre.
Thin clouds are evident in the fuzzy character of patterns for some of the surrounding smaller cities.

1714) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7893)
Posted 21 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


The Marine pub in Eastbourne, East Sussex, decked out in 18,000 twinkling lights and 1,000 baubles.

1715) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7884)
Posted 20 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A model wears a creation by Giles, during London Fashion Week at The Milk Factory, 7 Wakefield Street, central London.
1716) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 7883)
Posted 20 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I knew this was the wrong time to be checking in.

Hello Misfit. Nice to see you here. Don't forget, you can check in at any time, but you can never leave ;)

I hope that's a camera you're holding.

The camera is a Canon 40D attached to a Sigma 50-500mm lens with a 2x multiplier taking it up to 100-1000mm.

Camera and lens shown below are sitting on a Giottos monopod, photo taken with a Canon 400D.


Click photo for a larger version
1717) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7876)
Posted 19 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Slimbridge Reserve manager Dave Paynter during a floodlit feed on Swan Lake at the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust's Slimbridge Wetland Centre in Gloucestershire.
1718) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : ASTRONOMY PICTURE OF THE DAY™ (Message 7872)
Posted 19 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

The space shuttle Endeavour, mounted atop its modified Boeing 747 carrier aircraft, flies over California's Mojave Desert on its way back to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida after completing the STS-126 mission in this photo taken on December 10, 2008 and released by NASA on December 17, 2008.
1719) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7870)
Posted 19 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Mudeford, Dorset
1720) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 7869)
Posted 19 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I knew this was the wrong time to be checking in.

Hello Misfit. Nice to see you here. Don't forget, you can check in at any time, but you can never leave ;)
1721) Message boards : Number crunching : no work for several days.... (Message 7856)
Posted 18 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Hello!

I haven't got any work for nearly 2 weeks now. It ran perfectly before...

I've had a look at the board but I couldn't really find someone in the same situation...

For info, I run on GNU/Linux AMD64.

In the milkyway folder of BOINC there is the astronomy 1.24 app. I guess I should update or something?... I tought boinc was supposed to do it automatically, and I can't find a download to do it myself...

Any idea about how I could solve this?

++ - Bornerdogge

1. Delete the app_info.xml and astronomy_1.2.....exe files in your projects/milkyway.cs.rpi.edu_milkyway directory

2. Detach from milkyway

3. Attach to milkyway (2 & 3 ensure you download the latest milkway apps)

4. solved
1722) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7852)
Posted 18 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Singer Andrea Tjader, a student at Birmingham Conservatoire, takes the part of Santa Lucia in a Swedish-style midwinter service at the city's St Philip's cathedral.
Picture John Hipkiss.
1723) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7841)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Sleeping in a sculpture park in Surrey, England.


Click the photo for a larger version
1724) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7839)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Ice, I'm far away in a former colony on the other side of the planet, but your beaut photos are bringing back fond memories of past adventures. Keep them up!

Here's a goanna (lace monitor) from my corner of the Milkyway. He or she was about 1.4m long.

Gi'day WikiWill. Your goanna is dinki-di. Say Oi! to my whinging rellies in Perth will ya. Ta. Here's a squirrel in my English garden. Ooroo for now mate ;)


Click the photo for a larger version
1725) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7836)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


The Shaolin Wu-Shu Warriors take part in their act at the Chinese State Circus, which is currently performing in Birmimgham, UK.
1726) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (Message 7834)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It's a good suggestion Logan. I like it very much.

The one drawback I can think of is that it's useful to search for information but looking through the thread titles, whereas in 'Panic Mode On' I might have to search through many posts, many of them the same about a topic I'm not looking for.

Maybe we need a seperate message board for what you suggest - one for immediate problems/concerns rather than more general chat about number crunching.

That way all reported problems would be contained in their own thread, in an easily identifiable part of the boards.
1727) Message boards : Number crunching : Server error: can't attach shared memory (Message 7833)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Same over here.

Have we not had this error before?

Nice to see you here Lord Tedric. It's always nice to see a team mate :)

Did you see Team Ukraine pass us in the BOINCstats yesterday? My, it's very unsettling for me being Ukrainian and all. But so long as we're up there in the top 100 eh? ;) That's me doubly happy :)
1728) Message boards : Number crunching : Server error: can't attach shared memory (Message 7832)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yep, it means the servers are down.

... and hopefully not out ;)
1729) Message boards : Number crunching : Server error: can't attach shared memory (Message 7831)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yup, that happened before: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=482


Yes, I had a quick look at that thread, but the error started with "Error on connect" as opposed to "Server error", so I stopped reading - it wasn't making my WUs upload :p
1730) Message boards : Number crunching : Server error: can't attach shared memory (Message 7821)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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I'm having a problem uploading a couple of work units/getting 2 more. Any ideas?

17/12/2008 19:58:25|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1635150 seconds of work, reporting 2 completed tasks
17/12/2008 19:58:40|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
17/12/2008 19:58:40|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Server error: can't attach shared memory

[Edit] Oh. I've got the same on another couple of PCs. Someone needs to kick the servers perhaps? :p
1731) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7818)
Posted 17 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
wow cool fotos , im visiting daily this thread. Always nice things to see here like the young ladies 3 posts below!

Are you a professional photographer ice?

Thanks again for the complements petros. No, not a professional at all. I only got into SLR digital photography last year. I just like to take photos in my own way and enjoy my leisure time to capture photos like the one below. This one was taken just outside Windsor Castle in Berkshire where two ladies were posing in period costume with the tourists.


Click the photo for a larger version
1732) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7793)
Posted 16 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Dawn breaks over the priory in Tynemouth, in the north east of England.
1733) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7782)
Posted 16 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Riders exercise racehorses on the moors above West Witton in Wensleydale as snow and low temperatures continue across parts of England.
1734) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7763)
Posted 15 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Here's a photo I took by the River Ouse in York, also looking into a pub as I was outside watching the boats go by.


Click the photo for a larger version
1735) Message boards : Number crunching : New App status (Message 7744)
Posted 14 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Bluescreen is more fun though...

That's really great. It certainly brings back some feelings of dread... :P
1736) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7731)
Posted 14 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Good morning all!

i visited already your homepage ice and i must say you have a big collection of beautiful photos there!

Yesterdy it was a ps3 gaming day!! Madden NFL and i got a small tour to ps3@home, its really funny.

Now im enjoying my first coffee for today ..

[img]frappeStrawChoc.jpg[/ img]

Thank you for your kind comment about my website petros.

That's a nice coffee you had there. The chap in the photo below is having a drink, but not coffee I suspect. He's a pub-goer having a drink perched on sandbags after floodwater from the River Ouse hit parts of York, North Yorkshire.


1737) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7718)
Posted 14 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...I have to wonder how a user can have been in the MW project for 5 months and have 1.2 million credits or even 5 million. That's 600k and more a month.

I worked out that on average, since I started with BOINC, I've crunched 113,500 credits per month. BOINCstats tells me I'm crunching over 316,000 a month currently, so I must have started a lot slower. But then I started out with just a 1GHz AMD athlon, and now have a small crunching farm ;)

1738) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7712)
Posted 13 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Good day ice!!!!

wow always nice photos to see on this thread!!

Have a nice day!


Good day petros!!! I hope your Saturday is as lazy as mine ;)

Here is a photo I took earlier this year at Birdword near Farnham in Surrey, UK.


Click the photo for a larger version
1739) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : Black hole confirmed in Milky Way (Message 7705)
Posted 13 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thanks for that banditwolf. It's interesting to see this sort of stuff crop up in the news from time to time.
1740) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7704)
Posted 13 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


The Coast of Christchurch, Dorset
1741) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7682)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


[img]

A view from the Mendip Hills over the Somerset Levels, as the winter sun rises over mist and frost-covered fields close to the town of Glastonbury.



Cool, the best up to now!

Cheers mic



Molly Armiger, 11, of Cavendish, Suffolk, was named the overall winner of this year's RSPCA Young Photographer Awards with her picture of a long-tailed tit.
1742) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Hellooooo... (Message 7681)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Hellloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
1743) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 7670)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Wait, first you go off snow boarding, and then you sleep?? What sort of administrator are you? <grin>


He'll be wanting time off to eat next :P
1744) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 7668)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The assimilator is certaily working now

12/12/2008 18:36:19|Milkyway@home|Message from server: (reached per-CPU limit of 8 tasks)
1745) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 7666)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Read the project news guys, no wonder why we get no new work, some guys out there they return invalid or bad results and Travis i believe need some time to find the solution.


That's the first thing I did, and it didn't say anything about not making WUs available in the meanwhile.

Many projects run have more than one user run the same WU, and won't give them credit unless the results agree within a certain margin of error.

I wouldn't like to to lose my credits, having run a WU properly, when someone else has run it "bad" ly.
1746) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 7657)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've just managed to download some WUs

12/12/2008 16:26:23|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 7 new tasks


Just tried again on two different boxes - still no joy

I've tried on other PCs and got no more. Nothing after those 7
1747) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 7655)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I've just managed to download some WUs

12/12/2008 16:26:23|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 7 new tasks
1748) Message boards : Number crunching : No work again (Message 7637)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Looks like we've got a 'no new work' phase going on as of 10PM PST (12/11)

I can confirm that I can't get any work either
1749) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7630)
Posted 12 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A view from the Mendip Hills over the Somerset Levels, as the winter sun rises over mist and frost-covered fields close to the town of Glastonbury.
1750) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : Black hole confirmed in Milky Way (Message 7625)
Posted 11 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This seems like old news to me. I have heard about this awhile ago. Possible this is just another source comfirming it. It is believed that every galaxy has to have a blackhole to exist. It is part of the cycle.


I would suggest looking at Nasa for info as opposed to bbc. They has many puictures that are of higher quality. And/or subscribe to their emails.

I'm not sure what you heard a while ago, but this is a current news item based on results recently reported from the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Germany, as stated in the BBC article I provided a link to. Not everything comes from NASA, although the photo I reproduced did, as I stated below it.

Beliefs are one thing, but results from research to confirm or otherwise another.
1751) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : Black hole confirmed in Milky Way (Message 7621)
Posted 11 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
There is a giant black hole at the centre of our galaxy


Core of the Milky Way galaxy, taken with NASA's Spitzer space telescope

Click here for more
1752) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7603)
Posted 10 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A swimmer takes an early morning dip in Hampton heated outdoor pool, south-west London. Swimmers use the pool, which is heated to 28C (82F), all year round.
1753) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7592)
Posted 10 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Not far from me. Suppose it's had the dread swan-upping done to it.

I expect so...


1754) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7584)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A swan on the River Thames near Windsor, Berkshire.


click the photo for a larger version
1755) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7583)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A swan on the frozen lake at the RSPB site at Fairburn Ings, near Castleford, West Yorkshire.



Poor chap aint even got socks on:(

Chap? Maybe Travis will lend her his showboard to try out for a glacier run :P
1756) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7579)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Ice Cream Sunset. Somewhere in England...
1757) Message boards : Number crunching : Wu errors! (Message 7578)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

'Morning petros. Here is a nice tea for you. No Wu errors from me just now ;)



Oh thank you Ice, can I have it please on the rocks?


Iced tea on the rocks? No problem! :)


I can't see any wus with Errors ! We are back to DEFCON 1 status!


Time for a quiet MilkyWay minute ;)
1758) Message boards : Number crunching : Wu errors! (Message 7577)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...according to The Boinc FAQ Service is the output file is bigger than set by project, so file isn't uploaded...

I hope you get the credits for this wu [B^S] -ShEm- since it seems to be no fault of yours or your PC's
1759) Message boards : Number crunching : Wu errors! (Message 7573)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Good morning all and....


'Morning petros. Here is a nice tea for you. No Wu errors from me just now ;)


1760) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : The most crazy story i ever read!!! (Message 7572)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
This guy cashed 95.000 $ from a junk mail !! Read the story!

The get-rich-quick company had accidentally designed a real check - and I had deposited it!


Attention: I recommend you strongly to keep your fingers away from such of this kind junk mails or emails, the guy on the story he had just a big luck.

Interesting story Petros, that guy sure had some luck. I'm not sure I would be brazen to present such a check, which obviously must not have looked like a real 'real' check. But then, once past the cashier and into the bank's computer system, why should it not pay out? I expect the trick would be to find the right cashier to present it to. If you were going to try such a thing ;)
1761) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7561)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


A swan on the frozen lake at the RSPB site at Fairburn Ings, near Castleford, West Yorkshire.
1762) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7558)
Posted 9 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just a wee correction frae a 'British' Scot.

You have two picks showing Parliament photos, one showing our 'British' Royal family and the other shows the 'British' Red Arrows Display Team.

Hardly a little corner of England! But we in Scotland are used to this confusion!

Happy crunching guys - from another 'British' team

Hello Evodude, I'm so sorry you are confused ;) The jets are flying over England and the photograph of the Royal Family was also taken in England. In both cases the House of Parliament is in England. Most certainly a big corner of England!

btw, och aye the noo :)
1763) Message boards : MilkyWay@home Science : Tasks with over 400 hours "To completion" finish afer 1 hour (Message 7541)
Posted 8 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I have some strange "problem":
When I get a task from milkyway@home, it says that it needs 400 to 500 hours to complete. Like today (8/12/2008) I have a task that should complete before 11/12/2008, but it will take about 480 hours. The Boinc manager runs it in high priority (480 hours and it has to be finished in 3 days!). But after little more than 1 hour it has finished.
Is this a bug or is this a way to 'speed up' the calculation of the milkyway@home-tasks, giving them higher priority over other projects?

It's a BOINC 'feature', not to do with MW. It will sort itself out after you've run a few MW WUs.
1764) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7539)
Posted 8 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

One of the UK's rarest moths, the netted carpet moth (Eustroma reticulatum), has made a comeback in the Lake District after an absence of nine years. A team of conservationists, led by the National Trust, reintroduced cattle grazing in the area, which created an ideal habitat for the moths.
1765) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7529)
Posted 7 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
By the looks of things many have left this project..


I don't know if thats true,I hope not, but let us wait till the dust settles.

Where did they go?



I'm setting up CREDITS@HOME here.
Everyone can get 1,000,000 credits per workunit, but theres a special bug in the server that wont let anyone download any.


Ooh, I want some of those. Where do I sign up?

I've signed up, but it keeps saying this;

07/12/2008 18:53:12|Credits@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

What am I doing wrong? Do I need to detatch/re-attach? What app do I need?

Help!

1766) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7521)
Posted 7 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Sunderland
1767) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7520)
Posted 7 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
By the looks of things many have left this project..


I don't know if thats true,I hope not, but let us wait till the dust settles.

Where did they go?
1768) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7510)
Posted 6 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


Horses and their jockeys take the first flight of hurdles in a race at Sandown racecourse in Surrey.
1769) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7478)
Posted 5 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:


"Teddy-nauts" see the curve of the Earth. The toys were launched on a helium balloon by schoolchildren working with the Cambridge University Spaceflight team.
The educational project saw the bears reach 30km on a two-hour, nine-minute mission which landed near Ipswich.
1770) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7456)
Posted 4 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I suppose, since we are charting the motion of the cosmic ocean...

and looking into the Milky Way makeup potion...
1771) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7437)
Posted 4 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Alex Goodhind, 24, from Melksham, Wiltshire, who covered his house in 130,000 Christmas lights, says the soaring cost of electricity will not spoil his festive display.


source: BBC News

I'm not sure if he's still crunching MilkyWay ;)
1772) Message boards : Number crunching : New Work (Message 7423)
Posted 4 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Yes, I must get out more.

'Out'?


1773) Message boards : Number crunching : New Work (Message 7382)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I got work.
Its working.
I'm not upset with the points.


Help, whats gone wrong!!!!




I miss those daily battles to get some BIG MilkyWay crunchies :P
1774) Message boards : Number crunching : No further Support for Milkyway at this time! (Message 7381)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
...lowered the credit like you wanted...

What a shame, it was fun while it lasted... ;)
1775) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : NO WORK TO DO FOR 3 DAYS (Message 7349)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
I wish I had no work to do for 3 days :P

1776) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7340)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The state opening of Parliament.

Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip enter the royal gallery through the north door.


1777) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7338)
Posted 3 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
The only real migration of large groups of users are actually caused by many of the teams having a "Project of the Month"...

I don't know if this is true or not, but I would certainly be influenced by any campaign my team were having, such as an Xmas race in WCG right now. However, if the RACs of the last few weeks were still offered here I would forget any campaigns and resort to crunching where I wanted ;) (even if the inflated credits benefit my team far more than a pre-planned campaign ;)
1778) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7285)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
A lone robin on a snowy branch in Forge Valley near Scarborough earlier today.


1779) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7282)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
FYI- I am getting ~54 credits/hour with an XP Home quad with SETI optimized vs 48cr/hr with MW

Well, I think MilkyWay@home ought to get more credits to attract more crunchers for carrying out useful research into the evolution of the Milkyway galaxy.

It sounds like a fine project to me deserving heaps of support.
1780) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7279)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Ummm, so that means.... errrr....

What so sort of candy are we talking about? ;P


The sort that some people will say is delicious, some will say sucks rhino, some will say rots our teeth, some will say causes hyperactivity......

Yes, but am I getting enough credits for my crunch? :P
1781) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7272)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

Ummm, so that means.... errrr....

What so sort of candy are we talking about? ;P
1782) Message boards : Number crunching : Increase in number of Computational Errors (Message 7260)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It appears that when the computer is turned off for the night or simply restarted that the current work unit comes up with a computational error. Has anyone else seen this problem yet? Can you look into this?

Yes, I've had a few recently. One just now after I switched off my PC to install a wireless keyboard/mouse. In fact, I've seen it a few times after restarting the BOINC manager. Not a great many, just a few.


seen any with the 0.6 version of the application?

No Travis, all my computational errors were with the 0.4 version. I think I have the 0.4's are all cleared from my caches now.
1783) Message boards : Number crunching : Increase in number of Computational Errors (Message 7252)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
It appears that when the computer is turned off for the night or simply restarted that the current work unit comes up with a computational error. Has anyone else seen this problem yet? Can you look into this?

Yes, I've had a few recently. One just now after I switched off my PC to install a wireless keyboard/mouse. In fact, I've seen it a few times after restarting the BOINC manager. Not a great many, just a few.
1784) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7242)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Thousands of starlings fly over the derelict West Pier in Brighton at sunset.

1785) Message boards : Number crunching : Faster application (links inside) (Message 7232)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
There is no longer a faster app. Everyone is now on a level playing field! As it should be!

I agree, it should be. But then it's part of the BOINC 'pleasure' (I probably mean 'pain' ;) to find out if there are optimized apps and how to use them. I'm sure that many don't realize that some with higher RACs don't actually have more/bigger PCs crunching.
1786) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7182)
Posted 1 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Jets above Parliament


1787) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit limit (Message 7160)
Posted 1 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

LOL...

I feel your pain.

Now if we can get off of InstaPurge and back to something a little more user friendly, I'll be a Happy Camper again! ;-)

Alinator

Yes it can be a pain not only to supply a free PC or two to a project like this, but then to try and work out what to do to keep up with it all.

But then there are good people like you Alinator to help out the likes of me, so thanks very much for that. And also thanks to Travis and MW mod/science staff here - you're doing a fine job - and thanks!
1788) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7156)
Posted 1 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Infinitley better since I crunch zilch for SAH, so anything else is mounds better ;)
1789) Message boards : Number crunching : new workunit limit (Message 7135)
Posted 1 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Don't worry about it at this point. MW is a tight deadline project for almost all host with the stock apps. This often drives the tasks into HP when you first attach (due to TDCF data for the project), or running several projects and/or low Resource Share for MW on hosts which have been around awhile.

Give it a week or so and things should settle down.

Alinator

I think I need a week or so to settle down after the personal attention required to MW over the last week or so to keep the milk chocolate crunching ;) I can't complain though - my RAC is still flyin' :)

Welcome Sorceress - nice avatar...
1790) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 7120)
Posted 1 Dec 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Collecting mistletoe in the orchard at Joan's Hill Farm in Checkley, Herefordshire.

1791) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 7036)
Posted 30 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
300,000 on the clock for MW and the highest RAC I've ever had - 13,000. Nice :)
1792) Message boards : Number crunching : work availability (Message 7035)
Posted 30 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Decide to spend the day doing an Astropulse, and come back with a coffee to see a stack of MW and the rude message you cant have more than 20 at once you greedy sod.

That's your imagination at work. You can't have more than 5 you greedy sod. But it's better than having some other problem.

It's OK, we'll settle for 8 ;)

Well, he got you, Ice, didn't he! Rather than just taking you down to 8, he took you down to 5 and, after the screaming died down, he then mercifully granted relief by taking you back up to 8. And you were happy!

Classic Machiavelli.

Hi Bill, I didn't know Travis's other name was Machiavelli ;) But he certainly has a knack of keeping credit-guzzling quads at bay (I'm just jealous, I wish I had one :) I'll just have to keep squeezing my core 2 until I hear pips squeek ...
1793) Message boards : Number crunching : 20 workunit limit (Message 7030)
Posted 30 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
the big gun battleships may just have to go idle on MW for a while.


Well, I don't have a big battleship here. Just 3 medium - heavy cruisers and an older destroyer (my wife's laptop). But the fleet keeps chugging along.

Haven't spotted any U-boats yet. :)


LOL...

I just got my WWI vintage destroyer back in the game myself! Those old coal fired ones just couldn't keep up running Astronomy anymore, so I had to set it up to run just Milkyway. ;-)

Alinator



I've even brought a old Celeron 1.7Ghz back to life which I'd scrapped a while ago, having to find parts I'd stripped out and had to completley rebuild. Amongst others the AMD Athlon 1.0GHz sadly just would not revive :(

It doesn't seem that long ago that I decided to cut back on BOINCing to save on electricty, but helping with my team stats and helping to keep my team in the top BOINC 100 is so much fun :) - as well as helping out with the science and research of course ;)
1794) Message boards : Number crunching : work availability (Message 6981)
Posted 29 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Decide to spend the day doing an Astropulse, and come back with a coffee to see a stack of MW and the rude message you cant have more than 20 at once you greedy sod.

That's your imagination at work. You can't have more than 5 you greedy sod. But it's better than having some other problem.

It's OK, we'll settle for 8 ;)
1795) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Everything England, and everything else ;) (Message 6949)
Posted 29 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Just a little corner of England here in the Milkyway.

Please feel free to contribute/comment. Graphics can always cause some bandwidth difficulties, so please limit your pics to 800 x 600 pixels. Thanks.

I'll start with a crunching theme. This is Bunny Chatrill making one of his crunching tackles for England v Wales in 1924 (England won the match)


1796) Message boards : Number crunching : work availability (Message 6948)
Posted 29 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
you cant have more than 20 at once you greedy sod.

Ha ha ha, that made me laugh :) When I see this message I feel quite pleased - I've managed to get a few more that usual ;)
1797) Message boards : Number crunching : work availability (Message 6931)
Posted 29 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:

I have more than enough to crunch on, I can't crumble ;)

And a RAC I never would have expected to get. Crikey!
1798) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 6920)
Posted 28 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
We are now in 93rd place in the BOINC stats league. Thanks to the efforts of all Team England Members!

Please join us and help us get into the 80's, and maybe the 70's ;)

1799) Message boards : Number crunching : New App status (Message 6858)
Posted 27 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
new app costs money, which means funds from somewhere and so how and if are acknowledgments needed?

I want an acknowledgement, too! *LOL*


Maybe you should read the acknowledgements section in our HCW paper :P

http://wcl.cs.rpi.edu/papers/desell-ags-hcw-2008.pdf

My profile pics deserve an honorable mention.

It's your profile pics that confuse me about what is science ;)
1800) Message boards : Number crunching : New App status (Message 6857)
Posted 27 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Agreed 100% As far as I know (which isn't much) this is run by 2 grad students doing research for their papers. It's done within the university and I haven't heard any suggestions that the NSF was funding anything. Depending on the results that the project comes up with it might (HOPEFULLY) turn into a significant research project that the NSF at a future time might want to explore.

So to bring this further, if this isn't a scientific project, then I guess I need to change my perspective from helping in a scientific manner to just being a credit whore. <--- and not a very good one at that. <Sigh>


Interesting. I've had a look around the MW web pages and (please correct me if I am wrong) I note that this project doesn't appear to be about science. It doesn't seem to be about to "Help discover the structures in the Milky Way galaxy" as stated on the MW web page banner.

However, it does clearly state that "Milkyway@home ... This particular project is being developed to better understand the power of volunteer computer resources."

That's good enough for me to continue my support in the hope that the science will follow.



Actually this project has been used for science (it seems you're not counting computer science as science). I was pretty sure we posted our most recent publication to the astrophysical journal (if not, see the above post).

Yes, you're quite right, computer science is a science and, as I say, is a good enough basis for my supporting MW.
1801) Message boards : Number crunching : New App status (Message 6838)
Posted 27 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
Agreed 100% As far as I know (which isn't much) this is run by 2 grad students doing research for their papers. It's done within the university and I haven't heard any suggestions that the NSF was funding anything. Depending on the results that the project comes up with it might (HOPEFULLY) turn into a significant research project that the NSF at a future time might want to explore.

So to bring this further, if this isn't a scientific project, then I guess I need to change my perspective from helping in a scientific manner to just being a credit whore. <--- and not a very good one at that. <Sigh>


Interesting. I've had a look around the MW web pages and (please correct me if I am wrong) I note that this project doesn't appear to be about science. It doesn't seem to be about to "Help discover the structures in the Milky Way galaxy" as stated on the MW web page banner.

However, it does clearly state that "Milkyway@home ... This particular project is being developed to better understand the power of volunteer computer resources."

That's good enough for me to continue my support in the hope that the science will follow.
1802) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work ? (Message 6781)
Posted 26 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
Post:
As I finish my days work at past 5 o'clock GMT I see that there is no work.

Which is kind of appropriate ;)
1803) Message boards : Number crunching : Error on connect can't attach shared memory (Message 6629)
Posted 24 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Nice one :) I'm downloading/reporting again :)
1804) Message boards : Number crunching : Error on connect can't attach shared memory (Message 6623)
Posted 24 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Amazing. That old laptop of mine managed to grab 20 wu's just a little while ago.

24/11/2008 20:39:20|Milkyway@home|Message from server: No work sent
24/11/2008 20:39:20|Milkyway@home|Message from server: (reached per-CPU limit of 20 tasks)


All else still have the same problem

edit: 24/11/2008 21:27:59|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Hope you fix it
1805) Message boards : Number crunching : Error on connect can't attach shared memory (Message 6618)
Posted 24 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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No luck for me

11/24/2008 21:05:36|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 1735375 seconds of work, reporting 28 completed tasks
11/24/2008 21:05:41|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
11/24/2008 21:05:41|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Server error: can't attach shared memory
1806) Message boards : Number crunching : Error on connect can't attach shared memory (Message 6609)
Posted 24 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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It's OK, I'm switching to other projects right now. But I have this one laptop, it's very old - the poor thing, but it won't crunch anything but MW. Anything else and it keeps switching itself off, flatly refusing anything but a MW crunch.

So please attach the shared memory and make my laptop happy again ;)

PS I can't download or report any MW at all now
1807) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 6154)
Posted 14 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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1808) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Holidays and Special Occasions (Message 5794)
Posted 2 Nov 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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November is here and it's time to "remember remember the fifth of November..."

1809) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 5573)
Posted 21 Oct 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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1810) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Nevermind (Message 5310)
Posted 6 Oct 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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The days on the seti thread about the visit to "See the Moon" and all the great pictures that accomplied that thread. That's what led me to your website for more of the pictures.

Say, I remember that series.

I vaguely remember those episodes. But talking about pictures, I took a few photos around around an RAF base or two recently, and even had the experience of flying from one base to another in a Chinook fresh from Afghanistan. All part of another series I expect; http://hart.antonphotos.com
1811) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Team Recruitment thread - CLOSED (Message 5233)
Posted 16 Sep 2008 by Profile GalaxyIce
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Well done to everyone who helped Team England get in the BOINC top 100



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