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1) Message boards : News : How the new validator works (Message 38870)
Posted 19 Apr 2010 by Bill
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Completed, validation inconclusive.
is confusing. Why not change to
"Completed, waiting validation"
Like Seti
Completed, waiting for validation
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Conflict MW (ATI) & Aqua CPU (Message 29052)
Posted 8 Aug 2009 by Bill
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so I have shutdown BOINC removed the cc_config files and restarted BOINC.

You have to shutdown Boinc before modifying the file so it can read it on start up.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Why Wont MW quit asking for Work? (Message 28989)
Posted 7 Aug 2009 by Bill
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Tried down In increments down to 0.25 days...No Diff, Must be 6.6.36.
I'm going back to 3 days I think.

6.6.36 has bugs. MW reports won't finish in time. Cache size is irrelevant
6.6.38 (alpha) usually gets 1 WU, goes into EDF finishes it and then returns to other projects. I expect this to continue until the LTD returns to normal.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc question (Message 28814)
Posted 3 Aug 2009 by Bill
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Is there a way to keep it from benchmarking? (I doubt it) It annoys me when it runs and I loose the work that's been done.

Why don't you ask Boinc questions on the Boinc forum?
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 28749)
Posted 2 Aug 2009 by Bill
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How long are the BOINC developers going to let 6.6.36 sit out there as the recommended version? With as much disruption that it causes, you'd think it would be a priority to fix. :(

won't finish in time is a bug in boinc 6.6.36, it's been fixed in 6.6.38
That's still in alpha, but I haven't had any problem with it.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Confusing Messages (Message 28748)
Posted 2 Aug 2009 by Bill
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won't finish in time is a bug in boinc 6.6.36, fixed in 6.6.38
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Not getting work. (Message 28653)
Posted 31 Jul 2009 by Bill
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Won't finish in time is a bug in 6.6.36. It has been fixed in 6.6.38
While it is still in Alpha, I haven't had any problems with it:
http://boincdl3.ssl.berkeley.edu/mirror/boinc_6.6.38_windows_intelx86.exe
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 28491)
Posted 28 Jul 2009 by Bill
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Well, it's known bug with BOINC 6.6.36 and fix already available.
Look this thread and links in it.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=4120

Boinc board reports fixed in 6.6.38
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 27456)
Posted 10 Jul 2009 by Bill
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So if my comp is overworked, the scheduler should not request new tasks. Right?
But he does, and the server answers "won't finish in time".
How does the server know that new tasks won't finish in time?
Does the scheduler tell the server?


Boinc wants work to fill its cache and tells the server I want this much and this is what I currently have (a list of task duration and deadlines)

The server then sees if it has a task that can be put into the list without violating any deadlines.

For a long deadline project like Einstein the calculation simplifies to: sum list durations + new task duration + now < new task deadline.

For short deadline like Milky it becomes: if I put the task at the top of the list does that put any other tasks in danger of missing their deadline.

The server has to make the decision since Boinc doesn't know what task duration/task deadlines the server has.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Not receiving any work from Milkyway!! (Message 27248)
Posted 7 Jul 2009 by Bill
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07/07/2009 10:03:45 Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86
07/07/2009 10:06:06 Milkyway@home Message from server: (won't finish in time) BOINC runs 91.0% of time, computation enabled 100.0% of that

Several projects don't like 6.6.36 see http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=952#27182
If you down grade to 6.6.28 you'll get work
If you empty your cache you'll get work
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 26988)
Posted 3 Jul 2009 by Bill
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http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=4070 reports:
But with 6.6.36, CPDN gets ALL FOUR CORES assigned (four tasks) and I get no new Leiden or WCG tasks. The messages from the server state that the tasks "won't finish in time".
so this problem is with 3.3.36.

A 2% has nothing to do with getting work. It should only affect how much and how often. That user has 4 cores and experiences the same problem on another project.

Have you installed the optimised application?
No

You also have to understand that this project has short deadlines for a reason and isn't going to change it.
I suggested changing the WU size/deadline ratio. Keep the deadline, use smaller WU. But that was before finding that the problem is Boinc/project related and not because of a recent project change.

If you can't complete a wu in the time you have your machine running with the resource share you have set up, then maybe you need to either 1) increase the resource share, 2) install the optimised application or 3) consider not doing this project.
I already stated that I have 5000 credits on this project and no problems returning WU on time.

your not going to get work when you want it with a Resource share like that
When I want it? Boinc has racked up enough long term debt and wants it.

All you guys want to do is argue (the definition of a Troll!) I'm just reporting the the current version of Boinc has problems getting work from projects including this one, previous version didn't.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 26917)
Posted 2 Jul 2009 by Bill
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I started to see that message when I upgraded BOINC to 6.6.36

I went back to 6.6.20 and all is well.

The message comes from the server, so the ratio does not need to be changed. Something else does. The Boinc version shouldn't affect WU allocation.


That something else may be you just decreasing the amount of Projects/Work Units your trying to do on your Single Core 1.86Ghz Over Worked Laptop.


If boinc is trying to get WUs and is returning all of them on time, then it is not overworked.

On previous versions I would get a Milky, process it and return it, just like the other "minor" projects.

If the Boinc version affects the project then there is a problem with the project.

Your arrogant attitude is another. My lowly laptop has 5K credits on Milky and 10K on Einstein (and we know how big those WUs are) Perhaps you think I should drop Milky and contribute to Einstein instead. Was that your purpose in your post?
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 26852)
Posted 1 Jul 2009 by Bill
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I started to see that message when I upgraded BOINC to 6.6.36

I went back to 6.6.20 and all is well.

The message comes from the server, so the ratio does not need to be changed. Something else does. The Boinc version shouldn't affect WU allocation.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't finish in time (Message 26745)
Posted 30 Jun 2009 by Bill
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I run Boinc with 11 projects, (Milkyway gets 2%.) But I can't get any work, server returns: (won't finish in time) BOINC runs 100.0% of time, computation enabled 99...

I suggest increasing the deadline/task size ratio to get more participation.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Why is it so hard to get work? (Message 20808)
Posted 29 Apr 2009 by Bill
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Why is it so hard for everyone to get work all the time? The project has WU's to send as shown on the server status page but it takes several requests to get anything. What is causing this problem and is it going to be fixed soon?

I've been getting "No work available" for weeks in spite of the status page. I mentioned that more than a week ago.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Is milkyway@home dead? (Message 19197)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Bill
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Is milkyway@home dead? It's been weeks since I was last able to download any work.

There is activity, see the GPU messages

There is a problem. The server status indicates there are 813 units ready, but my boinc gets: No work available.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Server error: can't attach shared memory (Message 17165)
Posted 30 Mar 2009 by Bill
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got 0 new tasks
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Won't upload new WUs (Message 3109)
Posted 11 Apr 2008 by Bill
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My PC refuses to upload new WUs during or after running the ones that I had to hand. I don't understand why this should be, but here is a section of the information taken from 'Messages' Can anyone help, please?

11/04/2008 18:31:01|Milkyway@home|Computation for task gs_552_1208031939_1311180_0 finished
11/04/2008 18:31:01|Milkyway@home|Starting gs_552_1208031939_1311182_0
11/04/2008 18:31:01|Milkyway@home|Starting task gs_552_1208031939_1311182_0 using astronomy version 122
11/04/2008 18:31:04|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Started upload of file gs_552_1208031939_1311180_0_0
11/04/2008 18:31:06|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file gs_552_1208031939_1311180_0_0
11/04/2008 18:31:06|Milkyway@home|[file_xfer] Throughput 2964 bytes/sec
11/04/2008 18:31:09|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks
11/04/2008 18:31:09|Milkyway@home|Reporting 1 tasks
11/04/2008 18:31:14|Milkyway@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 511]

These show it's uploading and reporting just fine.
If you meant downloading, it's possible the duration correction factor is to high, cpu efficiency is to low, or the long term debt is low. The first 2 will correct themselves, don't worry unless your out of work. The latter allows other projects to run, don't worry unless you out of all work.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems downloading Stars and Volume files (Message 247)
Posted 8 Nov 2007 by Bill
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I think the server is doing ok... i'm not quite sure why files are going missing. I've started up a new search and hopefully that will fix the problem of too many work units being generated -- i think that had something to do with files going missing. Hopefully I'll figure out the problem soon.


About half of my machines picked up work, and about half of those had stuck files downloading.


I just posted this problem in Q&A - Windows
The project directory didn't exist. I manually created it and the downloads started right up
20) Questions and Answers : Windows : No such download directory (Message 246)
Posted 8 Nov 2007 by Bill
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I have reset the project

Reset didn't help.
The output directory doesn't exist and the error returned.

I manually created the directory and download 1.07 started


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