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Posts by Bill F

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73816)
Posted 12 Jun 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Some of the work units I have just validate are #2 , made on 15th March , only 2.1 million left .


Yes moving along nicely 908 to 631 to 131 today... If you don't watch the water it will boil.

Bill F
2) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 73743)
Posted 29 May 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Now that I have blocked "Mr I've been Banned X number of times" the forum is a nicer place.

Al though I might get warned for saying so....

Bill F
3) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 73727)
Posted 28 May 2022 by ProfileBill F
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In October of 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
There was no expiration date.

Bill F.,

Interesting, that's the same time I took the same oath, in Chicago, for the US Army. What a coincidence!


And just 2 short years before I took mine for the US Navy, I took my oath in the Pentagon from my dad who worked there at the time. Both my dad and his boss the General were beaming from ear to ear.


23 Oct. 1963 for me. I was still in high school and joined the Army National Guard. From there I cross-service transferred to the USAF in Dec.'64 -- to the 1st Air Commando Wing, which became part of what is now known as the USAF Special Operations Command, in '74. The 1st SOW was based both in Hurlburt Field, Florida and in England AFB, Louisiana, where I was.

Thank you for your service
.


Yes thanks to everyone for their service!!!


Yes Thanks to all who have or are serving. Just 7% of the population have stepped forward and raised our hands and written that blank check.
4) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 73704)
Posted 26 May 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Strangely, the validation queue is now not increasing or decreasing.

I'd love a set of real time graphs of server disk/cpu/network usage.


I think BoincStats has some close to that but I don't know how to find them


Try this .... https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=milkyway@home&chunkNotFound=&refresh=1m&theme=dark
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73498)
Posted 14 May 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Still all things considered we are doing better even if it is slowly. My Validation inconclusive tasks have dropped from 908 to 710 or about 22%. Seems easier on my emotions if I ignore them.

Bill F
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73254)
Posted 3 May 2022 by ProfileBill F
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So now there are a bunch of WUs that won't be validated that are floating around, which is frustrating for people.

Finally! A statement suggesting those WU's may never be validated and may be permanently listed in our accounts as pending.

My sympathies to those who have thousands outstanding. I only have 603.


My condolences but Tom has said in the past he MAY resort to stopping everything and letting all outstanding tasks come back in and then reset the database so all those are gone too, it's pretty draconian but if they keep climbing, I think i have less than 10, it just may come to that to finally get MW back on it's feet and in fighting shape again.


My inconclusive count has dropped by a very very small amount for the first time in weeks from 907 to 899.

Bill F
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 73116)
Posted 26 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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My validation inconclusive's haven't dropped in 4 days now. I had hopes for improvement.


Mine go back as far as 14 days so far.


I know others have more so I won't complain about how many but mine are like many of yours .... all 920 of them are hanging tough and not going away.

Bill F
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 72909)
Posted 16 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Keith Meyers is knowledgeable and helpful on many project forums.

An asset to the community.

Bill F
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation inconclusive (Message 72865)
Posted 16 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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My numbers are similar 894 inconclusive with 4 valid tasks for a current credit of 88 or so.

After the flush we will see how things shake out.

Bill F
10) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 72807)
Posted 15 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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BOINC server software has a default size for the feeder buffer. It can be configured larger if necessary if it is getting emptied too fast on every connection. But that swells the database and the database tracking of sent/returned/awaiting validation/deletion transactions take longer times.

So you can't dramatically increase the size of the feeder buffer willy-nilly without slowing down other parts of the server.

It's all a balancing act depending on the hardware and scheduler connections.
Something bad was happening in MW, since every time there was a problem, instead of the usual 1000/10000 tasks, it jumped to several million of each. Yet another Boinc bug I'd guess.
project forum.


Peter you continually bash the BOINC software on this forum. The Milkyway project does not write, maintain or modify the basic BOINC software for Clients or Servers. This is all controlled and developed by the BOINC organization out of Berkely Ca.

Here is a URL to their forum I politely suggest that you redirect your BOINC suggestions and criticisms to some where they can be addressed. They serve no purpose here. Create yourself an account and do some studying.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php

Sincerely
Bill F
11) Message boards : News : Server Downtime March 28, 2022 (12 hours starting 00:00 UTC) (Message 72568)
Posted 7 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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I think that you should stop guessing.... you sound very negative and cold in the view of life.

Who pays you to volunteer?

Bill F
12) Message boards : News : Server Downtime March 28, 2022 (12 hours starting 00:00 UTC) (Message 72543)
Posted 6 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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And why would you assume that human pay is either a part or a big part ?

Thanks
Bill F
13) Message boards : News : Server Downtime March 28, 2022 (12 hours starting 00:00 UTC) (Message 72461)
Posted 3 Apr 2022 by ProfileBill F
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All of the credits stagger out of the system when they are ready... I have been credited with over 140K in the last 3 days.

Bill F
14) Message boards : News : Server Downtime March 28, 2022 (12 hours starting 00:00 UTC) (Message 72391)
Posted 31 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Oh, OK.
Well, that is also what the project status page says.
No need for a very dark unreadable "picture"?
Or am I missing something?

Have you all a nice day ...


The Dark unreadable picture if you look closely shows history and trends so it has lots of value

Bill F
15) Message boards : News : Server Downtime March 28, 2022 (12 hours starting 00:00 UTC) (Message 72324)
Posted 29 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Image from Stat's page now

Download server milkyway.cs.rpi.edu Running
Upload server milkyway.cs.rpi.edu Running
Scheduler milkyway Not Running
feeder milkyway Not Running
transitioner milkyway Not Running
db_purge milkyway Not Running
file_deleter milkyway Not Running
stream_fit_validator (milkyway) milkyway Not Running
stream_fit_assimilator (milkyway ) milkyway Not Running
stream_fit_work_generator (milkyway ) milkyway Not Running
nbody_validator (milkyway_nbody ) milkyway Not Running
nbody_assimilator (milkyway_nbody ) milkyway Not Running
nbody_work_generator (milkyway_nbody) milkyway Not Running

Milkyway@home N-Body Simulation 13966487 576029 0.17 (0.01 - 1.3) 185
Milkyway@home Separation 4961115 655282 0.6 (0.01 - 25.08) 919

Upstream server release: 1.0.4
Database schema version: 27028

Task data as of 29 Mar 2022, 18:24:00 UTC
16) Message boards : News : Server Downtime March 28, 2022 (12 hours starting 00:00 UTC) (Message 72288)
Posted 28 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Another area of confusion for who was looking where. Here is the current Time Stamp from the bottom of the Server Status page... showing yesterdays date and status.

Another process to restart

Upstream server release: 1.0.4
Database schema version: 27028
Task data as of 27 Mar 2022, 18:54:47 UTC

Thanks
Bill F
Dallas TX
17) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 72217)
Posted 23 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Since gridcoin doesn't anywhere near even pay for the electricity, who cares?

True, it doesn't pay for the electricity. But it can help offset the cost of adding new gpus. Just added new 3080's and 2080 Ti's to my hosts.
Main thing is helping maintain my RAC for my Team. No point in wasting gpu time for MW that takes 3 weeks to pay out when I can spend the gpu time more wisely at Einstein.
No optimized apps for Milkyway yet. Hoping I can persuade our developer to look at that next after we finalize our Einstein app development.
We just recently broached 104Million Einstein Team RAC. Which is amazing for only 18 active members.



When you get them to look at the Einstein app development please ask them to consider an Einstein project option type
Run CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available: Yes or No

Where we can split Apps on systems with GPU's

Thanks
Bill F
18) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 72146)
Posted 22 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Would it be possible to only give out Nbody for CPUs and not seperation? Seems daft to do seperation on CPUs when the GPUs are so much faster. There's not currently a way to choose Nbody only if you have a CPU and GPU in the same system.


Are you trying to split a system with N-Body on CPU and Separation on GPU on a system ? Or are you just trying to do Separation only on GPU's on a system ?
Systems with GPU and CPU, I want Nbody on the CPU and Seperation on the GPU.



Ok I suspected that was what you were hoping for. Milkyway does not have the special preferences option that Einstein has ..

Run CPU versions of applications for which GPU versions are available: Yes or No

I suppose that you could write it up as a Wish List item for development
19) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 72141)
Posted 21 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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Would it be possible to only give out Nbody for CPUs and not seperation? Seems daft to do seperation on CPUs when the GPUs are so much faster. There's not currently a way to choose Nbody only if you have a CPU and GPU in the same system.


Are you trying to split a system with N-Body on CPU and Separation on GPU on a system ? Or are you just trying to do Separation only on GPU's on a system ?

Bill F
20) Message boards : News : Server Trouble (Message 72095)
Posted 21 Mar 2022 by ProfileBill F
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There are lots of other projects to work on in the meantime.

Any specific suggestions? So far managed to keep the computer busy with what it could get between outages, and now it still has some 16-17h of work left, but it's only connected a small part of the time, sometimes as little as 2h/day, which makes it trickier to "catch" those moments when such things happen, and it's also just a dual-core Pentium with 4 GB of RAM, 32-bit OS, no dedicated GPU, and only doing CPU work, which seriously limits what it can work on, plenty of projects using much more resources, and I just want it to work on environmental or space projects (and can't exactly find any environmental ones), so after SETI@home shut down it was quite a relief to see that MW@h's separation tasks had even lower resource use and switch here.


Einstein has Tasks that work well with older systems or systems with limitations.


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