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1) Message boards : Number crunching : MilkyWay_GPU (Message 19168)
Posted 17 Apr 2009 by Profilezed
Maybe this has been answered somewhere else already and if it has i appologise for asking it again.
Has there been any word on which catalyst version or if a 3rd party app is required to start crunching the new gpu project wu's or we can just start crunching straight off once the work starts to flow ?
2) Message boards : Number crunching : And if we DONT run a "FASTER" App.? (Message 5898)
Posted 4 Nov 2008 by Profilezed
You do all realise that you all have know one to blame but yourselves for allowing this to happen ! There would be no issue with credit limits and wu limits if the project admins would take a stand and say you know what we won't allow this optimised app to be used until we can intergrate it into the wu itself where everyone can benefit and we can adjust the credit rates back to the way they were, where everything is fair and just.

I know the project admins have been busy with other things while trying to do right by the people that are crunching their project but you guys have really dropped the ball on this one. Stop the use of the optimised app till you have the time to intergrate it into the wu's and the project can then benefit. And then we can all get on with crunching for a worth while project.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Ignoranz (Message 5825)
Posted 3 Nov 2008 by Profilezed
The ignorance of the project management is distressing. No News, no WUs - wanted or not - users need to be informed!

I 2nd!!! Used to have great communication, pity.

Yes i agree at the start this project was very communicative but the past month or so has been dreadful theres been no news or very little of anything, they've allowed the project to be hijacked and have let those involved off scotfree.

And if you want faster wu's you need to download a 2nd party optimised app supplied by an ego maniacal sociopath. I for one and i'm probably in the minority in this, will not being using it to boost his already over inflated ego.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5555)
Posted 19 Oct 2008 by Profilezed
Not scared off. Just pointless in continuing a conversation with fundamentalist. And besides the current topic has nothing to do with the thread.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5532)
Posted 17 Oct 2008 by Profilezed

You're aware that I disagree with the holding things back from the project. I've mentioned that to you several times. I've told you that it causes people to feel like you're being dishonest. This thread is more evidence of that.

What I also don't like to see is you (individually or as a group) stating that if there isn't action on your timetable, you will consider other additional actions to try to add motivation. That really comes across as being overly demanding and, yes, terrorist-like.


Have you made all of your changes available to the project? If not, explain.

If the answer to the first question is "no" and the reason is because you feel they should learn on their own rather than you handing the code to them, honestly, it is not your place to try to act as "The Schoolmaster"

Acting as though it is your duty to "show them up", "take them to school", or coerce more than you already have is poor behavior. It also goes against the spirit of cooperation in Open Source software.

The original poster is correct that you have made your point. I still think the original poster is merely upset about their standings, thus the continual cries for this account to be deleted and the credits removed, enabling them to come back up a couple of places.

My stand, which has been consistent, is that it is not your place to dictate to the project the way that they run the project. If you want to help them, by all means, help them, but do not do it out of spite or give the impression that you are holding things back. Do not make threats that if things aren't done within X number of days, you'll take further actions. Those equate to "ransom demands".

Act a bit more responsibly, and you'll likely have less friction from people here and better cooperation from the project staff.


Brian you were doing so well up to the point of where you keep mentioning my standing within the rankings. I have continually stated that i don't give 2 hoots as to where i am if i did i would be still crunching my ass off on this project. The rest of this post is the most intelligent thing you've said so far, and is the 1st real indication from you that you disagree with the tactics that Milksop has taken.

The other comments directed at me are not even worth the effort to respond to!!
6) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5516)
Posted 17 Oct 2008 by Profilezed

Because the project promised to look at the code? AFAIK, it is the first time they took this step publicly.

When did this happen ? in the last 5 mins ?

Then if this is the case and progress is being made then there is no need for you to continue with this ridiculous campaign ! And your account should be deleted immediately!
7) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5512)
Posted 17 Oct 2008 by Profilezed

And again, we stated our position to this in the profile as well as here in the thread already. Such a step would break the project. We don't want this. But in fact, we would think about it if nothing moves to the better.
The idealists alternative would be that all crunchers stop their involvement here until something changes. But this would be illusional, isn't it?

Why wait to break the project you said yourself it's been going on for months without any indication from the project as to when or if they will implement it. Don't talk about it JUST DO IT or are you to AFRAID ? you afraid you won't be seen as an upstanding honest fella of the boinc community. Don't make threats you and your cronies are not prepared to commit to. You have no credibility left.

And i would like to hear from the project itself as to whether any progress is being made ? Is it ? If so why is it not being discussed openly for all to see. Do both parties have something to hide?
8) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5506)
Posted 17 Oct 2008 by Profilezed
There is 1 solution to all this and this will put an end to the discussion once and for all . But i doubt the Admins would be impressed ! But it would make them stick there heads up and take notice, and that is for Milksop to distribute his so called wonder app to the masses of Milky crunchers. Put your money where your mouth is, if your doing it to improve things then what better way than to have everyone reaping the benefits of your wonder app and you would be a hero to everyone!! You'd like that wouldn't you ? You and your ever faithful side kick Brian the fence sitter
9) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5491)
Posted 16 Oct 2008 by Profilezed
*All of that absolutely screams jealousy*

You really think that's the case? I know i'm in awe at some of the computing power that some people have managed to bring together. If thats jealousy then guilty as charged.
What really gets up my nose is the fact that Milksop has blatantly found a work around on the credit and wu cap that Travis put in place to try and stop the abuse instigated by another smart ass, which you all seem to have conveniently forgotten. Screams dishonesty to me. Does anyone know who Milksop really is ? i don't, and i don't really care to be honest, all i know is he is a dishonest wanna be could'a been try hard.

I just noted, that zed, veebee and Evil Tenobi are all from the Cruncher Junkies team. Is it your team philosophy to waste your CPU cycles or what? Why do you oppose to pressure the MW staff to get the things done? Milksop doesn't belong to a team, it doesn't distort the team statistics, so why are you having so strong objections against our actions? I would understand it, if we would do it with our personal accounts and for our team. But now?

I have no control as to what and who posts to this thread and besides its a free open and fair forum! Is it not ? ... Do you think a particular team has it out for you ? Get over yourself. I alone opened this thread up because i am fed up, and instead of sitting on my hands i have voiced my opinion/accusations call it what you like .... I have never involved myself in project politics before but i like this project and will voice my concerns.

You say OUR actions ? so your not alone then ? What else are you hiding ?
correct me if i'm wrong but i think you stated somewhere that you could earn up to 2 million creds a day ? whats stopping you ? you feeling guilty about having slapped every other user into submission ? Or do you feel that would be hogging to many wu's ? your such an upstanding peoples person, YAY Milksop.

Stop what your doing and i might believe you're here to help the project. Until that happens i will continue to attack your motives. I have that right
10) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5479)
Posted 16 Oct 2008 by Profilezed

Well, looking at your credit and RAC values here, I don't "buy it" that you have the concerns of everyone else at heart. I think you're jealous that you are soon looking at dropping out of the top 20 participants by RAC and have already been pushed out of the top 5 by total credit. The problem is, in theory, once improvements are made in the app, you're going to have the same advantage with the number of hosts or their respective processing power as you have over all of the rest of us as it is today.

That RAC you speak of was up near 50k by pure hard work and a lot of $$$ on my part but that was my choice, and i was very happy to donate all my cpu cycles to this project and yes the credits are very attractive ... but if it was all about credits i would still be here getting my 50k a day from my 10 machines.

What i do object to and i'll say it AGAIN is the blatant abuse/cheating call it what you like that certain people have a gargantuan advantage over the rest. Did you see me complain when a member of L'AF put on an enormous lead over everyone else ? NO! Did i complain when a member who started the 1st i've had enough thread (which also brought up this very issue but about someone else) shot past me leaving me coughing his dust ? No! I don't and didn't believe that these people were abusing the system.

If i cared about my ranking i'd still be there giving my all to try and fight for my position. And i will be back when its a level playing field and don't give me that crap about how much of an advantage i have over a lot of others. i chose to buy all that i have, not some how cheat my way into making 70+ hosts out of 7 machines, theres a big difference. If Milksop had control over 70+ machines from a business or a university we probably wouldn't be having this discussion but then again he would probably still cheat and make 70 machines into 700.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5477)
Posted 16 Oct 2008 by Profilezed
I agree with the comment made by anotherone.

Flames are very non productive, especially as the Project Admin are looking at the code inefficiencies Milksop, and others, are pointing out to them.

Really you think that was a flame ???

I would think that after 10 days or more "of pointing it out" to the project admins that the point has been made and should cease. I doubt that even the project admins are that stupid they can't comprehend what is happening. And to blatantly abuse the project and slap every other legitimate cruncher in the face for not having the smarts to play with the code for better faster results. I'm all for you helping out the project to improve it's efficiency. But you need to find another way to do so without adding a million creds a day to your over inflated ego.

Yes i've read your profile and i don't buy it.

Why don't u go to Orbit as the last post suggests of even CPDN or Einstein for improving the speed and efficiency on their ridiculously long wu's ?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : I think you made your point !! (Message 5464)
Posted 14 Oct 2008 by Profilezed
Heh Milksop I think you and your mate Crunch3r have made your point with the fact the app is ineffective and that your you beaut computer skills are so much better than everyone elses. Why not go somewhere else and destroy another project and stop making a mockery of this one .

@ Travis i hope you intend to cancel and delete their accounts as this is getting way beyond abuse and has gone on for far to long.

13) Message boards : Number crunching : I've had enough also (Message 5335)
Posted 7 Oct 2008 by Profilezed
It's gotten to a point for me where there is no point wasting my time on this project if the project admins allow a number of individuals to use their own optimised apps.

I love this project and i work my ass of with my 10 crunchers to do the work but with people earning up to and over a million credits a day for little or no effort is a joke.

Granted those that know how to do these apps are very smart people and my hat goes of to you but i gotta say you people stink and the admins should be ashamed of themselves for allowing it to happen.

Feel free to abuse me call me names or whatever else you can come up i don't much care. I will return to my favourite project if and when there is a level playing field.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : new search (Message 3740)
Posted 12 Jun 2008 by Profilezed
Grabbed some wu's in the hope of calming my withdrawls of no Milky for the past few days only to find that 90% of the 1's that started have fallen over in 1 form or another. Some on doze others on linux :-(

Thanks to Travis and the others for your efforts but as i won't be around for the day to keep an eye on things have set Milky to NNW
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Best completion times (Message 3658)
Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profilezed
I just found this wu that was completed last night on 1 of my rigs ... Is this the fastest so far ? I'm not sure


Intel 9450 @ 3.008Ghz ddr2 800 on kubuntu 64
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Problem with new W/Us (Message 3654)
Posted 3 Jun 2008 by Profilezed
Looks like it's going to be another day without crunching any Milky. All because of these pesky gs-3737 wu's, had another 7 or 8 last night and lost around 18-20 hrs worth of wasted cpu cycles that unfortunately would have been better spent elsewhere. Can't be bothered micro managing any more looking for these wu's i have to sleep at some point . And it looks like theres no new work again anyway.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Best completion times (Message 3653)
Posted 3 Jun 2008 by Profilezed
Linux 8.04 (wubi) 64b / Q6600 @2.4GHz 450 secs
WinXP SP3 32b / X2 4200+ @2.4GHz 385 secs
WinXP SP3 32b / 3400+ @2.4GHz 382 secs
WinXP SP3 32b / XP2700+ @2.2GHz 442 secs

How come my Q6600 is running slower than the Athlons? Zed your's completed in 315 secs. Any ideas?

! of my quads is on linux @ stock speed and is still faster than on Windozescum @ 3.2Ghz
I would suggest maybe you swap at least 2 of those doze boxes to Kubuntu 64 and watch how much of a difference it makes to completion times
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Best completion times (Message 3520)
Posted 27 May 2008 by Profilezed
Just thought i'd add my 20cents worth.

1. Amd 6000+ stock 3Ghz 220 secs
2. Intel Q6600 @3.15Ghz 260 secs
3. Intel 9450 @3.00Ghz 160 secs
4. Intel Q6600 @2.40Ghz 315 secs
5. Amd 5200+ @2.60Ghz 256 secs

All running linux 8.04

6. Amd 5200+ @2.60Ghz 360 secs
7. Intel Q6600 @2.40Ghz 500 secs
running doze xp
19) Message boards : Number crunching : How long does it take for you? (Message 1361)
Posted 6 Jan 2008 by Profilezed
For my laptop (2100), it take about 33-35 minute for 'odd numbered' WU's (i.e. gs_74_1199384298_41763_0), and 13-15 minutes for 'even numbered' WU's (i.e. gs_80_1199384296_41713_0).
Is there anyone else with longer processing times?

Hmmmm my 1.4 celery laptop takes about the same, time wise vs credit wise i'm actually losing out on the shorter ones ... but oh well it all adds up in the end
20) Message boards : Number crunching : done WUs- now upload is failing (Message 1312)
Posted 3 Jan 2008 by Profilezed

Yup- the Milkyway uploads still failing.
Also, the lhc units listed after Milkyway seem to be stuck, too.

SETI units seem to cope, and just fly by.

I don't know if this helps, but it's what I'm seeing.


All my boxes on windows and Linux are crunching away nicely with no probs uploading or downloading

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