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41) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2636)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Personally I don't have a problem with what the granted credit has been set to. I'm staying, and so is my overclocked CPU.



heh i had another machine in the works which i was building to bring in on this also :) a Q9450 which a buddy of mine is gone build for me... i hope you guys correct this crazy mistake before its finished i really wanted to break it in here :) if not ABC will work just as well i guess :) :)

now if they will only release the damn chip lol,,, it sucks to have the $$$$$ and have to wait lol.. passed up so many fantastic QUAD deals so far it hurts lol.


Just curious Cappy, what do you think the $$$ will be to have it built, that will be a screamer.


my cost about $750 for the pross, MB and DDR3 mem.. the rest my bud is gona toss in for nothing :) he wants to see what its gona do also :P :P

That's a great deal Cappy!!!

42) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2630)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Personally I don't have a problem with what the granted credit has been set to. I'm staying, and so is my overclocked CPU.



heh i had another machine in the works which i was building to bring in on this also :) a Q9450 which a buddy of mine is gone build for me... i hope you guys correct this crazy mistake before its finished i really wanted to break it in here :) if not ABC will work just as well i guess :) :)

now if they will only release the damn chip lol,,, it sucks to have the $$$$$ and have to wait lol.. passed up so many fantastic QUAD deals so far it hurts lol.


Just curious Cappy, what do you think the $$$ will be to have it built, that will be a screamer.
43) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2628)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Personally I don't have a problem with what the granted credit has been set to. I'm staying, and so is my overclocked CPU.


You won't have problems getting WU's.
44) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2624)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Before I take the last computer off of this project in 5 minutes, I would like to let you know why I am leaving..If you really care.

I have 67 machine with over 220 cores and that is my fleet. It runs me around 300.00 per month to run them. This is my hobby and up until a few hours ago, I was happy to be here. Then like a lot of the other projects you tried to make the rest of the world happy by what you call brining you credits in line.. Hey you guys run the project and if you want to keep the power user, do what you have to do to keep us. But do as you will, its you toy not mine.

So I will now leave and wish you the best on your project.

And for those of you who want the credits the same on all of the projects, All that I have to say to you is get a life, For most of you who complain about the credits have a hard time getting 1k per day rac...


I couldn't have said it better.
45) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2618)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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I agree that granted credit was too high before (although I enjoyed it) and is too low now. Some of my 64 bit Linux boxes are now getting less than claimed, while they get more than claimed on other projects with 64bit applications.

It will certainly put MilkyWay lower on my list of priorities as there are quite a few projects which will give more credit for the same amount of crunching, bigger caches and longer deadlines.

Sure, you can't buy anything with credits, but with so many projects to choose from, credits do mean something to people who are in it for the competition.

You don't need to be the highest "paying" project, but don't strive to be among the lowest.



Well said Yoda.
46) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2615)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Not many complained about getting shorted credit before the optimizations. So why gripe now when the credit is rougly the same as it was then. The wu's were cut down to 1/3 and the credit 1/3(approx.).


I think I was quite clear with my explanation, if I wasn't I'll take another stab at it.
I currently have the project set on 'no new WU's' and it will stay as such for the foreseeable near future.
47) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2607)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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I just got my first (and last) WU with the new and improved credit.

I enjoyed the short time I crunched here but I must bid my farewell. That type of payout is not acceptable.

Enjoy everyone until such time as it (if it is) corrected.


Help me out here, I'm confused. Do you get money for this? I know it's nice to see the numbers go up, but to only crunch for a project because it's giving out a godly amount of credit..? I'm not trying to start a flame war her, nor even a discussion of human psychology. But I just don't get what the big deal is.
Me, I contribute because I like what Milkyway@Home is trying to accomplish, and in my opinion if every computer in the world donated its free time towards projects like this, we'd be answering important questions all over the place.. and that's what it should be about. Admittedly seeing your credits go up does make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but it should be for selfless, not selfish, reasons.
I'll leave the calculations to those who care (though I feel for the project maintainers who have to)


Let me help clarify so I can resolve any confusion you may have.

With the possible exception of a couple of BOINC projects, they are all worth while projects contributing useful information to the community.

Having said that, I have crunched for about 15 different projects at one time or another and some much more than others.

Since I don't have a 'pet' project any longer since SETI went wacko, I like to bounce around to the top 3 or so projects that have optimized apps that allow me to pick up a few extra cobblestones.

All the projects I crunch for are trying to, as you say, 'answer important questions'.

If you believe that to be, as you said, 'selfish', that's an opinion you are entitled to.

Happy Easter.
48) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2604)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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2.17 is a bit too low... it's just in the range of what the clients claim and these original benchmark based credits are much lower than the average.

A good value would be 3.8 or even 4, which would also keep the project attractive for (fast) modern 64bit machines.


even 4 is a bit off here's i how to calculated (take into account that times per wu is from an highly optimized windows 64 bit app that i've been testing)

86400(sec/day) / 300 (sec/wu) * 8 (dual quad core xeon 5365@3 ghz=8 cpus) *2.17 credits ~ 4999 credits a day ...

usually on abc@home running 64 bit apps i get a rac of 11.6K /day...

So 4.0 or even 4.2 would be a fair value for a WU.

Anyone wanna comment on my calculation ?





I agree, they payouts should be based on the standard applications, not the optimized ones.

As far as what I was thinking this would level out at was in the 4.5 - 5.0 range which I think is still too low when you're looking at what the standard app would be receiving.

Crunch3r, as far as your calculations go, they look correct to me.
49) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2589)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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I just got my first (and last) WU with the new and improved credit.

I enjoyed the short time I crunched here but I must bid my farewell. That type of payout is not acceptable.

Enjoy everyone until such time as it (if it is) corrected.

Happy Easter :)
50) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 2588)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Nice going on your 120K :)
51) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2587)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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i just hope that you don't based lowering credits on the stats of http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_cpcs.php cuz that data is flawed wich has already been proven to be fact.

However i agree that credit was to low ... errr.. hmmm ... ok a bit to high.
Was fun while it lasted :P







welp time to move again :(

Yep, I already moved. Project parity is a "David Anderson Dream" that takes all of the competitive fun out of crunching in some projects. That is like telling a store owner he has to set his prices the same as his competitor across the street. I still wonder why everyone thinks SETI has to be the standard. They cannot even keep their project running right most of the time.


You should see all the turmoil they're dealing with over there. If they are the standard then BOINC projects are in trouble, lol.
52) Message boards : Number crunching : updated granted credit (Message 2584)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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i just hope that you don't based lowering credits on the stats of http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_cpcs.php cuz that data is flawed wich has already been proven to be fact.

However i agree that credit was to low ... errr.. hmmm ... ok a bit to high.
Was fun while it lasted :P

EDIT

Had a look at it again and on a dual quad core xeon 5365 @3 GHz that would mean a max RAC of 4.7K/day... i think reducing credits by 3 was a bit to much for that.


"A bit too much"? Waaaaay tooo much, what happened to baby steps!!!
53) Message boards : Number crunching : More Work !!! Please :) (Message 2554)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Thanks Travis :)
54) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 2553)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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nice going everyone
55) Message boards : Number crunching : new searches started (Message 2551)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Thanks Travis
56) Message boards : Number crunching : More Work !!! Please :) (Message 2543)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Looks like were out of work :(



we need work!!! we need work!!!! we need work!!!!!


Hopefully some soon.
57) Message boards : Number crunching : Forums Useable but not in Good Condition! (Message 2542)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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I have never been able to upload an avatar here :(



Will wonders here never cease! :-)


I see you got one working, time to add mine :)
58) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 2541)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Passed 15,000. But I am getting blown by on the stats position.


Congrats on the 15K.
59) Message boards : Number crunching : Milestones (Message 2537)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Nice going DoctorNow.
60) Message boards : Number crunching : More Work !!! Please :) (Message 2536)
Posted 23 Mar 2008 by Profile Philadelphia
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Looks like were out of work :(


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