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Message 30803 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 11:33:01 UTC

Strange problem with the new v0.2 ATI app on one of my boxes. Two out of three are fine after updating to v0.2, the third craps out with a failed to create program error.

The error message from boincmanager is

14/09/2009 12:22:54 Milkyway@home Output file gs_constrainted_82_2s_4_2346758_1252927308_0_0 for task gs_constrainted_82_2s_4_2346758_1252927308_0 absent

This happens on all WU under 0.2: reverting back to v0.19 the box runs fine.

Specs: Boinc 6.6.36, HD4780, 32bit Win7 RC1. This box

Tried running Boinc as Admin: same error.

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Message 30829 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 15:16:24 UTC

Do you have the six CAL libraries in your system32 folder? That was my issue when I had your problem. Not sure if it applies to yours as .19 works, but it couldn't hurt.

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Message 30835 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 15:43:58 UTC

Yes, all six dll's in place.

It's very repeatable, so something systematic. I also double checked that I have MSCV++ 2005 SP1 installed too.

Just been playing with permissions and tweaks in the app_info but still no joy.

The error says that the output file for task xyz is missing. I'm not entirely sure which file that is referring to. It might be the OUT file in the slot directory, but in anycase, it's too fast for me to check. Boinc whizzes down the cache in a couple of seconds trashing each WU

0.19 ATI runs fine; 0.20 ATI barfs, but only on that machine - the other two boxes are running sweet under XP SP3.
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Message 30836 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 15:56:07 UTC
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Message 30845 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 16:51:22 UTC

Time Bandit,

I see the same lines in my successfully running tasks.

So, I do not think that this is for sure the issue.

I have been running over 6 hours now (as far as I know continually) with no error or invalid results. Major difference is that I am running Vista 32 Ultimate ...

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Message 30853 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 18:45:37 UTC - in response to Message 30845.

Time Bandit,

I see the same lines in my successfully running tasks.

So, I do not think that this is for sure the issue.

I have been running over 6 hours now (as far as I know continually) with no error or invalid results.

It's no issue. It just says that the app ignores the wishes of the BOINC client which GPU should be used ;) The app will obey these wishes in a future version, but it is working well as it is.

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Message 30854 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 18:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 30853.

Ok, thanks... Do you have any idea why 0.20 is only giving errors and 0.19 f works fine on Windows 7 X64?
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Message 30856 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:02:56 UTC

FWIW, my stderrr for these is as follows:


<core_client_version>6.6.36</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1) </message> <stderr_txt> Running Milkyway@home ATI GPU application version 0.20 (Win32, SSE2) by Gipsel setting minimum kernel frequency to 10 Hz scaling the wait times with 0.8 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz (2 cores/threads) 2.6605 GHz (396ms) CAL Runtime: 1.4.283 Found 1 CAL device Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 512 MB local RAM (remote 831 MB cached + 831 MB uncached) GPU core clock: 750 MHz, memory clock: 900 MHz 800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue), wavefront size 64 threads supporting double precision 3 WUs already running on GPU 0 No free GPU! Waiting ... 0.03125 seconds. Starting WU on GPU 0 main integral, 320 iterations predicted runtime per iteration is 104 ms (100 ms are allowed), dividing each iteration in 2 parts borders of the domains at 0 800 1600 0, integration, Kernel Execution : Failed to create Program </stderr_txt> ]]>


Notice the same error message in the last line.
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Message 30857 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:15:24 UTC - in response to Message 30854.
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Do you have any idea why 0.20 is only giving errors and 0.19 f works fine on Windows 7 X64?

I'm having no trouble with the new 0.20 ATI app on Win 7 64 - using the new Catalyst 9.9 and BOINC ver 6.10.3

It sounds like CP has a suggestions for trying a different Catalyst version.

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Message 30858 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 30856.
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FWIW, my stderrr for these is as follows:

<core_client_version>6.6.36</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[..]

CAL Runtime: 1.4.283

[..]
0, integration, Kernel Execution : Failed to create Program
</stderr_txt>
]]>


Notice the same error message in the last line.

There appears to be a certain combinations of a Win7, Catalyst 9.5/9.6(?) and the 0.20 app not working together. The error you see is indicating that the JIT compiler in the driver (used to translate the GPU code from some intermediate language to the code optimized for the exact GPU type you are using) is unable to compile the GPU code (or bind it to a buffer or whatever). It simply appears to be a bug of that specific driver version. Installing a different one should solve the problem.

The 0.20 ATI app was tested on about 15 different systems (I was not doing this alone) using several combinations of 32 and 64Bit versions of XP, Vista as well as Win7 and also several Catalyst versions and this behaviour was not observed on a single system. But I guess it is clear that with my limited resources I can't test all combinations of 6 different Windows variants and the at least 10 different Catalyst versions (8.12 to 9.9 + several hotfixes in between) which in principle are able to run the MW app.

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Message 30860 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:21:24 UTC

I also could not get 0.20 running, and none of the normal mistakes were made.. finally I could not return succesfully to 0.19 before copying the entire folder from another machine.

ATI9.5, 4850, win7x64, 6.6.36. Had all the files, removed 6.10.x specific lines in app_info, had the renamed dll's in system32.. just could not get it working. Any ideas from the failed tasks?
<core_client_version>6.6.36</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
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<stderr_txt>
Running Milkyway@home ATI GPU application version 0.19e by Gipsel
allowing 2 concurrent WUs per GPU
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (1 cores/threads) 2.30077 GHz (425ms)

CAL Runtime: 1.4.283
Found 1 CAL device

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4800 (RV770) 1024 MB local RAM (remote 319 MB cached + 319 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 735 MHz, memory clock: 1000 MHz
800 shader units organized in 10 SIMDs with 16 VLIW units (5-issue), wavefront size 64 threads
supporting double precision

0 WUs already running on GPU 0
Starting WU on GPU 0

main integral, 320 iterations
predicted runtime per iteration is 195 ms (33.3333 ms are allowed), dividing each iteration in 6 parts
borders of the domains at 0 266 533 800 1066 1333 1600
0 Kernel Execution : Failed to create Program

</stderr_txt>
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Message 30864 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:29:01 UTC - in response to Message 30858.

OK, downloading new driver now......will post back with findings shortly.

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Message 30865 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:29:36 UTC - in response to Message 30860.

I also could not get 0.20 running, and none of the normal mistakes were made.
[..]
ATI 9.5, 4850, win7x64, 6.6.36. Had all the files, removed 6.10.x specific lines in app_info, had the renamed dll's in system32.. just could not get it working. Any ideas from the failed tasks?

[..]
CAL Runtime: 1.4.283
[..]
0 Kernel Execution : Failed to create Program

Same driver/OS combination, same error. Appears to be a pattern.

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Message 30867 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:44:59 UTC - in response to Message 30860.

I would suggest to stay with Catalyst 9.2 even for Win7.
It seems higher versions only degrade stream computing, not improve it...

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Message 30868 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 19:50:44 UTC

I just upgraded to Cat9.9 and hey presto it sprung into life!

Most excellent result, thanks very much for your hard work!
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Message 30874 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 20:08:42 UTC

Great! With Cat 9.9 it's working now! :)
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Message 30888 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 21:26:21 UTC - in response to Message 30874.
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Mine seems to be working ok under Windows 7, 64 Bit Catalyst 9.9. Tho, I do have one question... in the BOINC manager it still says Milkyway 0.19, is this correct? If so, is it because the official client is still 0.19?

Edit: After downloading new WUs, it changed to 0.20. Am getting a few Computation Errors after 1 second here and there, but most WUs seem to be going thru OK.
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Message 30890 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 22:54:52 UTC - in response to Message 30888.
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Am getting a few Computation Errors after 1 second here and there, but most WUs seem to be going thru OK.

This is probably due to your BOINC client 6.10.4 It can leave one workunit in progress and switch to another more recently downloaded one. When it goes back to the interrupted unit it may error out. If you use 6.10.3 this clears up.

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Message 30891 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 22:56:06 UTC - in response to Message 30888.
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Would edit, but it won't let me again... my system is tossing a fair number of Computation Errors now... running 6.10.4 with a Radeon 4850 on afore mention Windows 7 64 bit Catalyst 9.9, any idea what might be wrong, or where I can snag the info that might help?

Edit:

Am getting a few Computation Errors after 1 second here and there, but most WUs seem to be going thru OK.

This is probably due to your BOINC client 6.10.4 It can leave one workunit in progress and switch to another more recently downloaded one. When it goes back to the interrupted unit it may error out. If you use 6.10.3 this clears up.


You responded while I was typing up a new message, I've now reverted to 6.10.3 by your advise to see if that helps, cheers!
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Message 30895 - Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 23:10:14 UTC

When rolling back, 6.10.3 may error out on those interrupted units that are "waiting to run", so don't worry if has to clear up your plate a bit. From there on it should be smooth sailing. (As much as BOINC ever is...) :)

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