A restart
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No need to John, all is working fine now again.
A new thread is tarting with faith...
I will see what happend when I start my rigs this night.
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TJ

12/23/2010 8:34:47 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
Workunits waiting for validation 25,208

Here we go again!!

IMO this is getting a bit ridiculous.

Is this an "unfixable " problem??

Didn't I say so...
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TJ

Validator looks to be going: 55k+ pending.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

12/23/2010 8:34:47 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
Workunits waiting for validation 25,208

Here we go again!!

IMO this is getting a bit ridiculous.

Is this an "unfixable " problem??

Hey, I already told them I would build them a new one custom for their needs!
Or give more cash, whatever they need to keep the server running smoothly!
No response to that as of yet.
Feels way better to me than just dumping money into some "fund" and not knowing where it actually goes.

But is this a software or hardware issue??

David

(and yes I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is, within reason,lol)

But is this a software or hardware issue??

David

(and yes I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is, within reason,lol)

All excellent points Mike.
Hopefully the new year will bring some renewed energy to solve these issues.
Having a limited understanding of the real "nuts n bolts" of this kind of programming I am at somewhat of a loss to understand.
However, I do believe in the importance of this project beyond it just generating numbers for people out here to count and compete with each other about!
I remain optimistic and ready to help in any way that I can!

Anyone listening????

Wow, it looks like I'm going to get my Christmas wish of an endless flow of WU's !!
LOL, Yeah, I ought to get a life ,huh?

If we do this, I suggest we go for 2 servers - its well within reach on the basis of a target suggestion 3cents per day per contributor for 2011 - ie $10 up front. With the number of active users we would easily raise the cash, even allowing for a relatively small proportion of active users contributing.

Not a bad New Years resolution at 3 cents a day ......

Regards
Zy

Yes, reminds me of the line in the movie "Contact".
Why build only one when you can have two (and keep the second one secret,lol)
Having a backup/baseline machine would be a very good idea.
And yes, even if only a relatively small percentage of us contribute it is still very "do able".
Great idea Zydor.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to everyone out there who celebrates today!

Hi,

I really like the words posted here!
And I'm willing to contribute one extra $ to supply the dev's with newest hardware for app-development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_%28microarchitecture%29
This is a link to newest intel CPU-Technology with advanced SSE Instruction-set called AVX which will be distributed from january on.
As we have seen, dev's are able to write excellent apps if they have a hardware to test ( as seen by a generous donation from CNCGURU ).
And they should have at least one HD69xx GPU as OpenCL is said to be much improved compaired to the 'old' HD58xx GPU's.

Regards
Alexander

Validator looks to be going AGAIN...32k+ pending
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If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Yea I'm not getting any GPU work at all
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Got a little bit of work for my GPU,but it's not getting work again,it's up and down time for the servers.
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Validator backing up again (36+K waiting), but work still being distributed.
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AAARRRGGGHHH

28/12/2010 7:39:56 AM | Milkyway@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
28/12/2010 7:39:59 AM | Milkyway@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28/12/2010 7:39:59 AM | Milkyway@home | Message from Milkyway@home: No work sent
28/12/2010 7:39:59 AM | Milkyway@home | Message from Milkyway@home: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a version of MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation.

This validator issue seems to be getting more frequent, the problem is i default back to collatz and it drops me several hours work.
With a single 4770 not such a problrm but with two 5970's the cache in gone in mins even with 8 cores.

If it is the same problem that occured it has been fixed twice this week.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Anyone getting continuous GPU wu? We definitely need a server status page like DNETC@Home so that we can distinguish the n-body and gpu work available.

Hello Everyone,

I have a problem simular on the subject ... On one machine I keep getting the following messages:

28/12/2010 18:12:56 Milkyway@home update requested by user
28/12/2010 18:12:57 Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
28/12/2010 18:12:57 Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks
28/12/2010 18:12:59 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28/12/2010 18:12:59 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
28/12/2010 18:12:59 Milkyway@home Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1 tasks)

It is Windows 2000 machine and it happens only there, on all other machines there are no problems. Can it be related to Windows 2000?

Thanks!

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Hello Everyone,

I have a problem simular on the subject ... On one machine I keep getting the following messages:

28/12/2010 18:12:56 Milkyway@home update requested by user
28/12/2010 18:12:57 Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
28/12/2010 18:12:57 Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks
28/12/2010 18:12:59 Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28/12/2010 18:12:59 Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
28/12/2010 18:12:59 Milkyway@home Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1 tasks)

It is Windows 2000 machine and it happens only there, on all other machines there are no problems. Can it be related to Windows 2000?

Thanks!

I see!

But BOINC does not report any errors on that machine ... Strange ...

Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 0
Granted credit 0
Database Error
application version v0.00

Via a compute error...

Looks like things are back again, andnot Monday as we thought!
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Looks like things are back again, andnot Monday as we thought!

looks like a lot of people lost a lot of points from milkway,dunno if the server screwed up or what,I hope what was lost can be reclaimed,this is insane.
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looks like a lot of people lost a lot of points from milkway,dunno if the server screwed up or what,I hope what was lost can be reclaimed,this is insane.

Server is working again.

Is it possible again to have the results around for more than 1 second?
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If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

boom-boom... out go the lights...

I still am receiving work, looks like it was a minor bump as I only had to do 2 Collatz units.

I still have a large cache from last weekend.
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Server status is still green, but I got only 3WU's and that's it.
Does more crunchers have this experience?
The amount of tasks ready to send was (is) dropping it should have been as i now see 4770 ready. Hope I get a bunch.
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TJ

Snow drifts in the server perhaps?
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GPU work coming in dribs and drabs, showing in BM statics as a small down turn. Backing up with the longer Collatz work now.
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Only n-body wus.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

I have 7 very hungry 5850's 5970 cards idling ?

any idea when work will flow again for the GPU's

DNETC will be benifiting in the mean time but i would much prefer Milkyway
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Couple of months ago, an outage was considered to be an exception which was happening maximum 2 times in a month. Nowadays, crunchers accept the outage, which happens at least 2 times per week, as a part of the project.

I did say this, and will be saying that, we need better servers. If crunchers allocate their resources to buy hardware for the science, the project staff is obligated to provide a service that meets the crunchers behavior.

The existence of backup projects doesn't soften the excuse of sequential outages. I don't know whether the cause is server load, validation or feeder but apparently something is wrong in the server side.

Still, milkyway@home is my primary project but when the opencl becomes an industry platform, which has been becoming really fast, i wonder how many people will stick to this project. At least the Prime Grid did a wonderful job implementing it into their application.

I got a message thru, lets see if it helps!

Well, this thread answered my question. I was wondering if I was having BOINC issues. Just got my 6950 unlocked to 6970 specs and moved my 4890 to my secondary rig and was hoping to punch out some work units, but I guess that isn't going to happen for awhile.

Clearly there is no Milkyway GPU work coming through, despite the server status claiming plenty of new work is ready to send.

It looks like other people have a correct surmise that it's only nBody work.
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i wonder how many people will stick to this project. At least the Prime Grid did a wonderful job implementing it into their application.

Don't know what you mean about MW not supporting the automatic backup capability of BOINC. I have Collatz and DNETC at 0% resource share and BOINC pretty seamlessly swaps over to one of those when MW has no work.

I run MW pretty much 100% GPU resource allocation and have no problems..other than MW doesn't have any GPU work right now.

I've PM'd Matt about the work outrage, maybe I'll also PM Travis.

Don't know what you mean about MW not supporting the automatic backup capability of BOINC. I have Collatz and DNETC at 0% resource share and BOINC pretty seamlessly swaps over to one of those when MW has no work.

I run MW pretty much 100% GPU resource allocation and have no problems..other than MW doesn't have any GPU work right now.

I've PM'd Matt about the work outrage, maybe I'll also PM Travis.

Personally, Ive about had it with this nonsense.
They don't bother to communicate with us what they are doing most of the time.
They don't seem to be willing or able to solve a recurring problem.
Arrogance for the first ,incompetence for the latter.
I would have fired the lot of them by now if they were any of my employees!
Think I'll take my 40 cores and 19 GPU's and go play somewhere I'm respected just a little more.

In fact I'm already gone,lol!

Well we were getting double credits there for a couple of days...maybe this is pay back! :)

[edit]PM'd Travis as well.

Yes! I just got 4 WU's the ATI are firing up.

See our patience is rewarded (is this good English?)
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Greetings from,
TJ

I think we need more patience. The 4WU's ran, and where uploaded again.
But no new ones, but I keep looking.
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Greetings from,
TJ

I got my 24 new WUs! Yay! I still wish i could store a few more, i go through them so fast :)

Personally, Ive about had it with this nonsense.
They don't bother to communicate with us what they are doing most of the time.
They don't seem to be willing or able to solve a recurring problem.
Arrogance for the first ,incompetence for the latter.
I would have fired the lot of them by now if they were any of my employees!
Think I'll take my 40 cores and 19 GPU's and go play somewhere I'm respected just a little more.

In fact I'm already gone,lol!

My GPU work started to flow earllier and I returned the first result an hour or so. So, back to normal (I hope).
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I noticed the same John, but I am now on the high power rate (my high power consuming rigs run nights). So I start to finish the lot.

But I see all de_separation_11, 13, 14, 15 and 16 (run 1.26) not the 17 (run 2.12), so I guess it is not totally "normal" just jet.

Happy crunching.
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Greetings from,
TJ

Snow drifts in server again, clean and kick please.
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Snow drifts in server again, clean and kick please.

Server page looks wierd
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hello,

the problem of running out of work can be cured in two ways

1. you up the amount of WU per core that we can download ( which for some reason your desperate not to do )

2. hold a far bigger cashe of work units on your own server so that even if it jams for an hour or two we still can download work until it starts producing new work again ( although that wont work either .... just now for instance theres 5000 WU on the server page waiting to be worked on it says and yet nothing for my two machines :( )


GPU technology is making leaps and bounds ( twin dual GPU 5970's here ) and having 10 or 15 mins of work when theres a server glitch which can last hours just isnt cutting it anymore

best regards
Ian
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What happened to the longer running 17s WU's??

Thanks, I gave it a kick and took some old runs down. It looks like things are calming down... I'll keep an eye on it today.

-Matthew

I know queue size has been discussed many times before, but now that we have the N-Body WUs for CPUs how about dedicating the CPUs to them and leave the old WUs for the GPUs. That way GPU cache size could be increased and turn around time would still be faster than it is now for both types of WUs.

Thanks Matthew, all running normally here
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The server seems to be running smoothly now - let me know if it isn't working well on your end.

I'll discuss some of you ideas with the rest of the group; I will let you know what happens.

-Matthew

Here we go again!! No work.
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hello,

there is always a third way of doing this which would involve alot more work on your part i would suspect
that is make the WU way longer than 90 seconds on some of our machines ( say 10 or 15 minute length or longer each ) and let us choose to do those WU on our faster machines if you dont want to figure out some way of sending them out to faster machines automatically

just a thought

Ian
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Matthew

The servers are going funny again, like they did a few days ago.

Database/file status
State #
Results ready to send 2,876
Results in progress 181,275
Workunits waiting for validation 56,749
Workunits waiting for assimilation 176
Workunits waiting for deletion 3
Results waiting for deletion 269
Transitioner backlog (hours) 0


Can you give the servers a kick again, please?
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This is becoming so common place that we aren't even bothering to post about it anymore!!
Why can't this be fixed?
Is it so astronomically difficult that it just cannot be solved?
Cmon guys I need my BILLION credits before I can go home, LOL!
Yes, they are still sending work but the validator is choking and the RAC's are moving backwards even as we crunch!

Twice yesterday and once so far today is too often. Whatever is being done is only last hours not even days.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Well I'm not getting new work in the last 2 hours while there are WU's though.
The validater is in "stress-mode" as it says on the server status page: Workunits waiting for validation 167,508 , 411 of them are mine.

How just when posting this, 18:49UTC, I got 2 WU's.
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TJ

Looks like the server needs a kick or two.

data-driven web pages milkyway Running
upload/download server milkyway Running
scheduler milkyway Running
feeder milkyway Not Running
transitioner milkyway Not Running
milkyway_purge milkyway Not Running
file_deleter milkyway Not Running
nbody_assimilator milkyway Not Running
separation_assimilator milkyway Not Running

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No work again.
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No teams also.

The validator retention is growing again, and the servers are not sending me work.
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ditto

Assimilator is offline. 37k results pending.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Assimilator is down again. 32k pending.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Kick it like a football!
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Matt has been working on the server tonight.

Forecast to be up again?

We here as users, must refresh, uppdate, to get some new work.
Please, fix that too...

We here as users, must refresh, uppdate, to get some new work.
Please, fix that too...

.....and here I was proudly explaining to all my friends how they should run MW too, just like me.....THEN.......@&%^#*% no new work!

How will I ever explain this to my wife and kids...Their father can't get new work!


Honey.....honey...come back, you really weren't supposed to see that post. It's ok, really. I promise they will have something for me soon. Really, they will, I'm so sure of it......Come on sweetie, don't be like that it'll be ok, I'm sure.......I swear it.

:)

It appears someone's messing with the server, or there's a problem...

2/9/2011 1:20:57 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: Server error: feeder not running


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2/9/2011 11:13:16 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Oh! Boy!

The servers are running, but the assimilators are off!
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oohhh boy...

2/9/2011 6:23:16 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/9/2011 6:23:16 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
2/9/2011 6:23:18 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/9/2011 6:23:18 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work available

So... othing to do again...

I think that we have more compute Power than the server are able to create WU for us...

regards!

Same old, same old

15/02/2011 7:42:16 AM | Milkyway@home | Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a version of MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation.

Now work again!. Sometimes I get "only N-body work", sometimes not.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Looks like there isn't any more GPU work and the assimilator has stopped working.
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Server status

Program Host Status
data-driven web pages milkyway Running
upload/download server milkyway Running
scheduler milkyway Running
feeder milkyway Not Running
transitioner milkyway Not Running
milkyway_purge milkyway Not Running
file_deleter milkyway Not Running
nbody_assimilator milkyway Not Running
separation_assimilator milkyway Not Running


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Greetz to all

Ho hum...down again.

Results ready to send 0

Results in progress 146,646

Workunits waiting for validation 51,748

I've been without work for over an hour and yet the result in progress is amazingly large! There are some reeaaalllyyyy slow systems out there crunching this project.

Ho hum...down again.

Results ready to send 0

Results in progress 146,646

Workunits waiting for validation 51,748

I've been without work for over an hour and yet the result in progress is amazingly large! There are some reeaaalllyyyy slow systems out there crunching this project.

Ho hum...down again.

Results ready to send 0

Results in progress 146,646

Workunits waiting for validation 51,748

I've been without work for over an hour and yet the result in progress is amazingly large! There are some really, reeaaalllyyyy slow systems out there crunching this project.

Thanks gosh I have an ATI 5870, 87 seconds each WU... of course, when there is a WU available. ARGH!

Or hosts that have figured out that MW is a secondary project for reliability reasons -- my primary GPU projects are Collatz and Dnetc -- both of which run more regularly than MW as well as supporting single precision GPU's.

I realize there is a fair amount of load on this project with relatively limited resources -- and also suspect that folks who run NW as their only GPU project are likely to be a tad unhappy....

Ho hum...down again.

Results ready to send 0

Results in progress 146,646

Workunits waiting for validation 51,748

I've been without work for over an hour and yet the result in progress is amazingly large! There are some reeaaalllyyyy slow systems out there crunching this project.

I have to leave MW as my primary ATI GPU project since the server does not support the "0" share setting. Collats is my backup.
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When Milkyway stops delivering new work my Collatz back up takes over. When Milkyway is working again I NNT Collatz and let the cache run down.

I have just come to the PCs and see Milkyway was not giving out work and I have only just lifter the NNT on Collatz. Milkyway returned it's last crunched unit at 01.05am this morning.


Aaaarrgggh - all that wasted time.
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Annoying isn't it?
Was hoping to hit 50 mil mark this week before starting my shutdown.
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Still in with a good chance this week with that RAC. But their servers need to be working for at least tomorrow, assuning your shutdown is Saturday?
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Up to 103k pending.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Something just happened because the project is out of work again.

Tired of that! I just attached to Collatz and set the priority for this project to 10%... It's a shame that all the time the server get out of work. Regards!

Just got about ten WUs about an hour ago. Now I get again no WUs

Got around 30 WU again and... STOP again... no more packs for GPUs... OUCH!

HELLO SERVERS ADMIN, WHAT YOU GUYS NEED??

Going AGAIN! 12k pending.
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

I noticed something: every time a backlog forms with the queue for results waiting for validation, the server runs out of work. Is there something wrong with the validator?

Yup -- it is been that way for many many months -- fails semi-regularly for reasons as yet over these many months, unresolved (indeterminate??).

It is one of the primary reasons that MW has become a part time project.
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I noticed something: every time a backlog forms with the queue for results waiting for validation, the server runs out of work. Is there something wrong with the validator?

Travis and I hammered out a small issue, things seem to be running very smoothly now.

-Matthew

Travis and I hammered out a small issue, things seem to be running very smoothly now.

-Matthew

Thanks God Matthew... let us keep crunching please! We have some ATI babies that needs to crunch!

Best Regards!

not getting any...

6/03/2011 10:05:41 AM | Milkyway@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
6/03/2011 10:05:41 AM | Milkyway@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
6/03/2011 10:05:46 AM | Milkyway@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
6/03/2011 10:05:46 AM | Milkyway@home | No work sent
6/03/2011 10:05:46 AM | Milkyway@home | Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a version of MilkyWay@Home N-Body Simulation.

[edit]
Good news!

6/03/2011 10:11:23 AM | Milkyway@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
6/03/2011 10:11:23 AM | Milkyway@home | Reporting 2 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
6/03/2011 10:11:30 AM | Milkyway@home | Scheduler request completed: got 15 new tasks

not getting any GPU work units.
3/8/2011 8:21:10 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/8/2011 8:21:10 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
3/8/2011 8:21:26 PM Milkyway@home Computation for task de_separation_19_3s_fix_4_2060697_1299638139_0 finished
3/8/2011 8:22:20 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/8/2011 8:22:20 PM Milkyway@home Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for GPU
3/8/2011 8:22:22 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/8/2011 8:22:22 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
3/8/2011 8:23:32 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/8/2011 8:23:32 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
3/8/2011 8:23:34 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/8/2011 8:23:34 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
3/8/2011 8:25:44 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/8/2011 8:25:44 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
3/8/2011 8:25:46 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/8/2011 8:25:46 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
3/8/2011 8:27:56 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/8/2011 8:27:56 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
3/8/2011 8:27:58 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/8/2011 8:27:58 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent
3/8/2011 8:34:03 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/8/2011 8:34:03 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
3/8/2011 8:34:05 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/8/2011 8:34:05 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work sent

I have bought a HD4850 from the secondhand market (45 Euro) and brought it online 2 days ago.
Collatz did work fine from the beginning. From Milkyway I was a little bit disappointed for the little cache. I had to make an update request every half an hour. This was not practicable for a system which is 7/24 online.

But from today morning (MEZ) there is every 2 minutes :) an automatic update request and the system gets enough work. The turnaround time is now 0.03 Days.
If this behavior continues I would be satisfied. :)
My question: Was there a change on the server, or depends the interval of the requests on the individual statistic of my machine?

Settings:
BOINC Manager V 6.12.15

<global_preferences>
<run_on_batteries>1</run_on_batteries>
<run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
<run_gpu_if_user_active>1</run_gpu_if_user_active>
<suspend_cpu_usage>0.000000</suspend_cpu_usage>
<start_hour>0.000000</start_hour>
<end_hour>0.000000</end_hour>
<net_start_hour>0.000000</net_start_hour>
<net_end_hour>0.000000</net_end_hour>
<leave_apps_in_memory>0</leave_apps_in_memory>
<confirm_before_connecting>0</confirm_before_connecting>
<hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
<dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
<work_buf_min_days>0.000000</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>0.500000</work_buf_additional_days>
<max_ncpus_pct>100.000000</max_ncpus_pct>
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>15.000000</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<disk_interval>60.000000</disk_interval>
<disk_max_used_gb>10.000000</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>50.000000</disk_max_used_pct>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.100000</disk_min_free_gb>
<vm_max_used_pct>75.000000</vm_max_used_pct>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>50.000000</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>90.000000</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_up>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_down>
<cpu_usage_limit>25.000000</cpu_usage_limit>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.000000</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
</global_preferences>

But from today morning (MEZ) there is every 2 minutes :) an automatic update request and the system gets enough work. The turnaround time is now 0.03 Days.
If this behavior continues I would be satisfied. :)
My question: Was there a change on the server, or depends the interval of the requests on the individual statistic of my machine?

By the way this is not a good thread for your question as it is for as the servers give no new work. And you get plenty of work...

BOINC development version 6.12.18 is out. Testing 6.12.15 is not going to do the developers any good anymore.

16/03/2011 8:03:31 PM | Milkyway@home | Incomplete read of 1084.000000 < 5KB for de_separation_20_3s_fix_4_709807_1300265776_search_parameters - truncating
16/03/2011 8:05:04 PM | Milkyway@home | [error] File de_separation_10_3s_fix_5_710538_1300266237_search_parameters has wrong size: expected 636, got 0

Arrrgghhh!

Feeder, along with a bunch of other things, aren't running. can't get new tasks.


3/17/2011 5:52:19 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/17/2011 5:52:19 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: Server error: feeder not running


http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/server_status.php

/\ Feeder back online.

Validator is down again. 18k+
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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Everything is down again...

ouch!

Aaaarrrggghhhhh!

Aaaaarrrrgggghhh!


Soon to be downloading half a days Collatz work.
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Go away, I was asleep

Don't jump the gun too soon! Everything is up and running again after the outage. 5K worth of work to send out available.
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I already left, be back when dnetc breaks or when I can be ersed to change over again

Problems again. No new work and ready work cannot be sent.
Six servers are red. We have to wait a while.
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Greetings from,
TJ

I think that this outage might be intentional. The server has been sending out work units that cannot validate because either nobody can generate two results close enough to each other so that they can validate, or the validator fails and declares a validate error. Therefore, the flow of work units was probably stopped to fix what is wrong.

Servers Back... happy crunching!

regards!

Servers Back... happy crunching!

regards!

And up again...... :-))
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My Fan just spun down. Out of Work again.

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!

From what I know about BOINC and the server status page, there is plenty of work units to process. However, the scheduler processes cannot get to them because they use the feeder to maintain a shared connection to the database via the feeder, which maintains one or more database connections for the scheduler processes to use because this saves the overhead of creating and destroying a connection to the database each time a new scheduler process is spawned to deal with each scheduler request. Since the feeder is down, there is no way for the scheduler to contact the database.

Feeders not running!!!
And for some reason I can't get thru to any of the admins!!
Backwards we go again!!!!

Hope springs eternal, the feeder came back up in about 10 mins - but there is now no GPU WUs available - AMD or NVidia. Only CPU WUs. Hey Ho ..... :)

Regards
Zy

Results ready to send 5
Results in progress 158,943
Workunits waiting for validation 17,284

How did we jump to this?????
Come on guys I love this project!
If I just wanted points I'd have all my guys on primegrid!!

There is a lot of tasks in my buffer. What has happend, new task limit or unwanted server code change?

I saw that I had 98 WU cached and went WTF, guess something is being changed in the background.

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Of course the only way I can read the thread is to hit post to thread.
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OK big changes taking place but why is only one of my 5 getting any work?
keep getting:

4/6/2011 5:39:20 AM Milkyway@home Message from server: Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

same settings on all the machines so why is only one getting work?
Plus, what's up with .98CPU usage???
This effectively blocks other cpu crunching??
I smell an app_info file somewhere but is anyone else having this kind of problem where all their machines are not getting work?

Thanks,
David

Upload/Download server is still disabled, he's still beavering away.

Re CPU rate - thats been raised over at News forum, looks like its a consequence of the server upgrades. Doubt its got to the top of the to do list yet.

Regards
Zy

Yeah, I seen the "Disabled" but didn't know if I could trust it seeing as my one guy keeps getting work.
Geez, my top guy has lost 35K RAC so far, donno if he's ever going to see that magic 1 MIL mark, LOL!
Well, I'm leaving my top guy waiting and send all the others to work elsewhere today while they iron things out.
Thanks,
David

There's still some holes he's plugging. the large majority have not had a feed for getting on for 12 hours - looks like the spurt of WUs to a few middle of the night was more server code corrupted than anything. He jumped on that fairly quickly. Could even be that the larger downloads were a result of corrupted code, not deliberate cache increase, have to wait and see.

A few pots of coffee to go methinks .... :)

Regards
Zy

My one guy who's been getting the work has 80 wu's sitting in "Completed, validation inconclusive" state but still that system has climbed 2K in RAC so some are getting validated.
Not showing any errors.

And wowee what have we got here???

MilkyWay@home Version 2 Beta Applications | MilkyWay@Home Version 3 | MilkyWay@Home w/ GPU



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Its indicating the level of work he's doing.

"BOINC Server Upgrade" may well be a euphamism for "Project Admin Nightmare", but not this much - he's usually too good to get caught this badly. Methinks there is much more to this than a "simple" upgrade.

Keeps the brain cells ticking over as we wait if nothing else :)

Regards
Zy

OMG, Did I miss something big?
BOINC server upgrade??
Not just Milkyway?
I have been babysitting the kids (computers) remotely lately as my "real job" here has been taking ALL my time!!

I have been babysitting the kids (computers)......

Well, yeah! there are parallels here.
As I got serious last summer with this crunching hobbie, I kept buying components and putting together new machines.
It's been a learning process to see how different things work together best and alot of times overclocking(since I just couldn't leave well enough alone,lol)everything can go really crazy and some configurations would "behave" better than others.
So they took on lives of their own over time and I have learned a bit and can now say that my kids are all very well behaved (most of the time)
And they do keep "Daddy" busy and out of trouble!!

Yep only one machine could get work out of 3, I have not checked the cpu usage that you refer too.


edit-small rant


Dnetc down for me, 4 machines playing up big time with the running out of hcc over at wcg, the other wcg hfcc/muscular dystrophy projects couple with gpu crunching are taking its toll on my wcg rac, been working at them for the past three days, looks like I have finally found some relief

I didn't get to check the "real" cpu usage
Was just commenting on the message bar saying instead of the .05 I'm used to seeing it said .98!!
And now that machine has run out of work too.

The machine that was left with mw running in conjunction with wcg(cpu crunching) the cpu usage was fluctuating it should be at 100% but was going from 80/90, I switch it over to collatz and back to 100% cpu utilization. **** this this is becoming more like work rather than a hobby

I was reminded by Beyond in another thread about running with an app_info.xml and once I did that the work units flowed like water!!

Thanks again Beyond!!!

Simply incredible!
I just woke up from taking a little nap to find my no.1 guy
OUT OF WORK!!
All the others still have plenty of work

4/6/2011 9:02:52 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
4/6/2011 9:02:52 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
4/6/2011 9:02:53 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
4/6/2011 9:02:53 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work available
4/6/2011 9:04:59 PM Milkyway@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
4/6/2011 9:04:59 PM Milkyway@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
4/6/2011 9:05:00 PM Milkyway@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
4/6/2011 9:05:00 PM Milkyway@home Message from server: No work available

They have turned off supply for the moment whilst Travis works on the server. He's hoping to get it back up tonight.

Regards
Zy

oh ok thats what I get for nappin!! LOL
And wow, I didn't think the others were THAT much slower!!

Incoming ..... rofl :)

Regards
Zy

I don't get it!
my slowest cruncher is getting new wu's but my no.1 gets nada!!!
Of course I have changed nothing from before when I had 1500 wu cache!!!
These new wu's are coming in trickles but why is the main guy getting absolutely nothing?
I've had enough, I will now shut up and let them figure it all out!!

Its going to be unpredictable whilst Travis is working on it. Could be short time - could be long - never know in server sagas .....

I hear the frustration, and understand it, but its life. It will take as long as it takes to fix. Travis will be just as keen to get it going.

Just have to wait it out.

Regards
Zy

If I don't get new WU soon I'll be forced to turn up my heat. :o

Nip over to DNETC, that'll keep the circulation going.

Take a fire extinguisher though :)

Regards
Zy

Sadly DNETC seems to currently be in an even worse position than Milkyway. :(

nothing for 2 days, site down, not looking to good for dnetc

An update about Dnetc here:

http://boincstats.com/forum/forum_thread.php?id=6315
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Uii, i don't know yet that i can get piratet windows with Dnetc units.... :-p

OK, lets wait and let collatz smile....
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No more WU? that's it? All servers green and nothing... this is happening with all you guys? Thanks!

Take a peek at the News Forum. Project down at present, they are putting humpty back together. Be a while yet. Also note the deprecation of MW AMD Applications on restart - a new AMD app is going to be distributed, and if you run app_info file, you'll need to change it. If you dont, no worries, all happens automatically.

Meanwhile I suggest you run some WUs from another project for a bit - going to be a while here, tonight Eastern time or tomorrow, difficult to say, just keep an eye on MW for the restart.

Regards
Zy