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Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Well, decided to allow another milkyway WU to be crunched through. This WU is massive at 115 estimated hours to crunch. I think there might be some problem with the windows binaries that's causing this. It's not really how they're expected to run. It might just be that the estimated time is off (if the progress is off). |
Send message Joined: 15 Feb 10 Posts: 5 Credit: 130,492 RAC: 0 |
Yes Win XP pro. It runs fine and has two ours to go exactly on schedule but i miss the bar showing its progress.... |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Yes Win XP pro. It runs fine and has two ours to go exactly on schedule but i miss the bar showing its progress.... Is this still happening with the newly upgraded applications? |
Send message Joined: 15 Feb 10 Posts: 5 Credit: 130,492 RAC: 0 |
Well, i do'nt upgrade it by myself so if this is done automaticly..... I've got an update (MilkyWay 3 i think) no difference. ****** It shows the bar afterwards******. I think: problem resolved. By the way, my pc is 24/7 running and can handle more and bigger stuff. If you like to you are welcome. |
Send message Joined: 14 Feb 09 Posts: 999 Credit: 74,932,619 RAC: 0 |
Bad new on the OS X front as well, check pointing is still not working. I ended up aborting the unit after 18 hours and it was back at 7%. When I had last seen it it was at 15%. |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Bad new on the OS X front as well, check pointing is still not working. I ended up aborting the unit after 18 hours and it was back at 7%. When I had last seen it it was at 15%. I'll be updating them to the v0.04 binaries shortly, which should fix the checkpointing issue. |
Send message Joined: 17 Mar 10 Posts: 20 Credit: 5,641,904 RAC: 0 |
Keep getting files which run without progressing % done running windows 7 is it me or is my machine? |
Send message Joined: 15 Feb 10 Posts: 5 Credit: 130,492 RAC: 0 |
Due to the update, wich took some time, everything is working perfect. Bars are showing and runnig as hell. |
Send message Joined: 17 Mar 10 Posts: 1 Credit: 174,157,385 RAC: 113 |
I have the same problems as I see a couple have - the test 3 does not work. It says "working" - but no progress. This happens to both my PCs - Win 7 -64bit. Anything I can do - or just abort the WUs? |
Send message Joined: 21 Nov 08 Posts: 23 Credit: 7,466,082 RAC: 0 |
The new application MW3 works OK for GTX260 - GTX 295 - GTX470 and GTX480. Is it possible to arrange to download only MW3 WU for fermi-cards, because all other WU cancel? Perhaps in prereferences??? Hope to hear soon! Ton (ftpd) Ton (ftpd) Netherlands |
Send message Joined: 17 Aug 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 68,866,318 RAC: 0 |
Уважаемые ДрузьÑ!!!! Что то не работают новые Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸Ð»Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ milkyway3 . Счётчик прогреÑÑа Ñтоит на меÑте 0,000%!!! Ñ…Ð¾Ñ‚Ñ Ñƒ Ð¼ÐµÐ½Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ñ‡Ñ‚Ð¸ закончилоÑÑŒ Ð²Ñ€ÐµÐ¼Ñ Ð¾Ð±Ñ€Ð°Ð±Ð¾Ñ‚ÐºÐ¸. Ðто отноÑитÑÑ Ðº верÑии 0,01 и 0,03. По Ñтому Ñ ÑƒÐ´Ð°Ð»Ð¸Ð» вÑе новые Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸Ð»Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÑÑ‡Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ñ Ð¸Ñ… нерабочими. С уважением , Vlad. P.S Очень надеюÑÑŒ, что Ð’Ñ‹ найдёте проблему и иÑправите её. |
Send message Joined: 8 Jul 09 Posts: 19 Credit: 1,667,175 RAC: 0 |
I don't tend to leave the computer running 24x7, but for this particular 115hr WU, thought it best to let it run until completion so that you've got some results before time-out, therefore I'm leaving it on. It's now currently at 73hr done, 36hr to do, so the revised total time is more like 109hr. Still at "high priority" but I think it might just make it in time for the 27th deadline. I think there might be some problem with the windows binaries that's causing this. It's not really how they're expected to run. It's been mentioned before when you switch from application to application and it may be closer related to BOINC instead of your estimates. the way I understand it is that BOINC computes an estimate for one science project, and a similar calculation method for another. however, since I'm still seeing a largish 100+ hours, I think BOINC may have given a good estimate by my guess. On a slight tangent (more work on your end)... I've heard about optimized apps, but I hope you could take advantage of mixed binary compilation since the intel compiler optimizes for the intel, but not so well for competing CPUs like the AMDs....so us AMD CPU users are left at disappointing results. If you know what mixed binaries are it could be something like... compileIntel general_code.c -> general_code.obj compileIntel important_rtns.c -> important_rtns1.obj -optimized_for_intel compileAMD important_rtns.c -> important_rtns2.obj -optimized_for_amds link general_code.obj+important_rtns1.obj+important_rtns2.obj -> main.exe I know I'm oversimplifying this above, but it lets us normal users running boinc without optimizing manually enjoy some optimization benefits. Anyways, guess we'll see if this old sempron makes it in time - with good results. http://www.joescat.com/boinc/ |
Send message Joined: 14 Feb 09 Posts: 999 Credit: 74,932,619 RAC: 0 |
Уважаемые ДрузьÑ!!!! Dear Friends! Travis is planning on releasing new binaries based on the 0.04 code soon which should hopefully fix most of the issues with the new app. Ð¢Ñ€ÐµÐ²Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ð»Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ€ÑƒÐµÑ‚ выпуÑтить новые файлы на оÑнове 0,04 код, который должен Ñкоро надеюÑÑŒ иÑправить большинÑтво вопроÑов, Ñ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ð¼ приложением. |
Send message Joined: 8 Jul 09 Posts: 19 Credit: 1,667,175 RAC: 0 |
Well, I was expecting MW milkyway3_0.01_.... to be finished sometime today, therefore called up boinc manager to see results and it died. the command-line prompt spewed out a lot of complaints.... *** glibc detected *** ./boincmgr: double free or corruption (out): 0xadc00468 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/i686/libc.so.6(+0x6add1)[0xb6c7edd1] ./boincmgr[0x81801c8] ./boincmgr[0x8180745] ./boincmgr[0x807d9a1] ./boincmgr[0x807db4e] ./boincmgr[0x8377f55] /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0(+0x5ae5)[0xb6ea0ae5] /lib/i686/libc.so.6(clone+0x5e)[0xb6cec00e] ======= Memory map: ======== 08048000-086a9000 r-xp 00000000 08:07 120154 /opt/BOINC/boincmgr 086a9000-086c3000 rw-p 00661000 08:07 120154 /opt/BOINC/boincmgr 086c3000-086d5000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 09d3c000-09f72000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 [heap] adc00000-adc21000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 adc21000-add00000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0 ...that was just a snippet and there was more stuff after that. If anyone thinks that these error messages on the command line are useful, I could zip it and send it to someone. Just let me know where to send it. Tried calling boinc manager again, now see that the MW started crunching again 3 hours ago. I told boinc not to fetch any more code, so I'm guessing MW died and is now getting crunched again. Time done now is 82hr and now got 221hr to do before Apr 29th. My guess is I'm crunching the same data again. If Travis is going to release 0.04 soon, I'm guessing there is nothing useful in this task 3.0.01 now so I'll probably abort the task later tonight unless someone mentions keep it going. http://www.joescat.com/boinc/ |
Send message Joined: 12 Mar 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 104,940,688 RAC: 0 |
Hello everybody, i got one of the MilkyWay@Home Version 3 v0.01 WU http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=96023388 and it told me yesterday at about 22:00 UTC, that there was no time remaining any more. There was no progress bar either. Now it has finally finished with a duration of 15:17 hours (initial estimate was around 12 hours, if memory serves) but with an inconclusive validation as you can see. Working on a Intel C2D T7200 @ 2Ghz, 3 GB Ram, genuine Win 7 X64, ATI Radeon HD 5450 1 GB GDDR3 (SP regretably and not used here, of course) http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=159241. It was due on 29th of April 9:50. I realize that this is a new app and there might be some "bugs" to work out, no offence. But it is a little awkward nonetheless. And one other thing: there is no checkpointing for this win app, is it? Because everytime i pressed "exit boinc manager" the app began from zero time. If i left it running and preempted apps in memory, then it could continue. Perhaps this isn't possible due to the nature of the used algorithms, that might be one reason i can think of. Thanks for answers and greetings from Germany! Hope this helped and was worth the effort, Christopher |
Send message Joined: 12 Apr 08 Posts: 621 Credit: 161,934,067 RAC: 0 |
Now it has finally finished with a duration of 15:17 hours (initial estimate was around 12 hours, if memory serves) but with an inconclusive validation as you can see. Until the wingman comes in that is the "correct" response... it just means that you need to wait for step 2 to complete ... |
Send message Joined: 12 Mar 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 104,940,688 RAC: 0 |
Until the wingman comes in that is the "correct" response... it just means that you need to wait for step 2 to complete ... Hello Paul, thx for your answer, but i am aware of the principle of mutual validation in Boinc. The point of my post was not the inconclusive validation, but imho the longer than estimated running time and the missing progress bar as well as the lack of checkpointing. But perhaps these issues have been resolved already. Greetings, Christopher |
Send message Joined: 12 Apr 08 Posts: 621 Credit: 161,934,067 RAC: 0 |
Until the wingman comes in that is the "correct" response... it just means that you need to wait for step 2 to complete ... Sorry, i missed the point ... I *THINK* Travis has fixed the progress bar for sure and there are checkpointing issues that also were addressed ... only testing will tell if he got all of the issues... No idea about the longer run times, though that could be a side effect of the checkpointing issues ... my tasks that ran seemed to run in about the same time so this may be a YMMV issue ... Aside from the changes to increase the science done and have better models the other goal is to ease the burden on the server by the elimination of file handling and that is something that will be well worth the wait ... Anyway, sorry about the misunderstanding ... :) |
Send message Joined: 12 Mar 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 104,940,688 RAC: 0 |
Sorry, i missed the point ... Never mind, no hard feelings ;-P, never about something this trivial. Thx anyway. |
Send message Joined: 8 Jul 09 Posts: 19 Credit: 1,667,175 RAC: 0 |
Aborted last night, it was at about 110 hours done and 209 hours to go. All other tasks were put as suspended, so it was the only task running. I think I'm running one of the more normal tasks right now, but even though the other tasks are suspended, BOINC appears to do a call to the other application URLs for any status checks or something, then I see that BOINC restarts this MW task again, so this may be one reason why I hadn't progressed much beyond 200 hours yet to do. http://www.joescat.com/boinc/ |
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