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Message 2239 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 2:37:41 UTC

Get better soon Travis


Perhaps some more new searches need to be started to get everyone some work? As of now it few and far between getting anything.
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Message 2240 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 3:10:24 UTC
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Whats a M/W WU look like; I haven't seen one in a while.
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Message 2244 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 4:29:21 UTC - in response to Message 2240.  

Whats a M/W WU look like; I haven't seen one in a while.


the assimilator should be generating them... i'm not sure why it's taken so long for everyone to start getting work.
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Message 2245 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 5:15:35 UTC - in response to Message 2244.  

Whats a M/W WU look like; I haven't seen one in a while.


the assimilator should be generating them... i'm not sure why it's taken so long for everyone to start getting work.

I think we're good now. It was just having trouble filling the bucket faster than it was being drained.

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Message 2246 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 6:21:50 UTC

Oops?

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Message 2247 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 6:27:19 UTC

Again without new works:

14.3.2008 7:24:27|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.  Requesting 4906 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
14.3.2008 7:24:32|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
14.3.2008 7:25:33|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.  Requesting 4916 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
14.3.2008 7:25:38|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
14.3.2008 7:26:39|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.  Requesting 4927 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
14.3.2008 7:26:44|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
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Message 2250 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 12:57:00 UTC

They clearly can't make them as fast as we're crunchin them, they need mo power Scotty.
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Message 2255 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 18:08:49 UTC

I am getting about 2 at a time now. Looks like its run dry again. The assim. has gone missing.
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Message 2256 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 18:17:00 UTC - in response to Message 2223.  

First WUs are arrivig on my comps@home! YAY! :-)
Although my lappy is still ignored by now. *grin*

PS. I guess all the boxes attached to Milkyway are so busy fetching work that the WUs are gone before the server status can show them as results to send. *biiiig grin*

Travis wrote:

the reason we can't have more than 20 WUs at a time (and even this is too many) has been discussed on here many times. it's even in the known issues section. what we're doing is dynamically updating a genetic search based on the results you guys return. if we feed out more than 20 workunits (even this is too many) by the time you finish crunching them, the population has moved so far away from where those points were generated that the work you've done on them is basically useless. ideally i'd really like to have the number somewhere around 5-10.

when we update the server code, you should be able to download new workunits as soon as you finish with your previous ones. if you're just complaining about wanting more WUs out there in the case when the server crashes... i don't think theres anything we can do about that as the workunits need to be dynamically generated as new ones come in.

that being said, we definitely are trying to increase the time per workunit. the model will be updated, and we'll be doing it across multiple streams of stars - you just need to be patient with us here. this is science in progress and Nate is working on how exactly to do that. also, i'm working on incorporating doing a line search into a workunit (which should increase the computation time by a factor of 10-50) or more) -- but that's maybe a week or two away because that'll take a bit of bug fixing. i'm hoping to have that in the next version of the application.


This means, stars are evolving by talking from WU to WU, as, for instance, Cori does.
So, Cori evolves to be a star <3
One of the miracles of MilkyWay :-)
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Message 2257 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 18:19:41 UTC - in response to Message 2230.  


the reason we can't have more than 20 WUs at a time (and even this is too many) has been discussed on here many times. it's even in the known issues section. what we're doing is dynamically updating a genetic search based on the results you guys return. if we feed out more than 20 workunits (even this is too many) by the time you finish crunching them, the population has moved so far away from where those points were generated that the work you've done on them is basically useless. ideally i'd really like to have the number somewhere around 5-10.

when we update the server code, you should be able to download new workunits as soon as you finish with your previous ones. if you're just complaining about wanting more WUs out there in the case when the server crashes... i don't think theres anything we can do about that as the workunits need to be dynamically generated as new ones come in.

that being said, we definitely are trying to increase the time per workunit. the model will be updated, and we'll be doing it across multiple streams of stars - you just need to be patient with us here. this is science in progress and Nate is working on how exactly to do that. also, i'm working on incorporating doing a line search into a workunit (which should increase the computation time by a factor of 10-50) or more) -- but that's maybe a week or two away because that'll take a bit of bug fixing. i'm hoping to have that in the next version of the application.


I've set "Connect about every 0.01 days" and "Additional work buffer 0.05 days" in order to get just few WU's at a time.

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Message 2259 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 20:02:14 UTC - in response to Message 2256.  

This means, stars are evolving by talking from WU to WU, as, for instance, Cori does.
So, Cori evolves to be a star <3
One of the miracles of MilkyWay :-)


*Grin*
Lovely greetings, Cori
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Message 2260 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 20:28:49 UTC - in response to Message 2259.  

[quote*Grin* [/quote]

Cori has posted. Expect long server outages ;)

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Message 2261 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 20:37:07 UTC

If that's the case, they Cori isn't allowed to post any more :)


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Message 2262 - Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 20:38:01 UTC - in response to Message 2260.  
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Cori has posted. Expect long server outages ;)

Al.

*LOL* I think the server survives my posts. Well at least most of the times. :-P
But now go and hide before it's too late...



*kaboom*
Lovely greetings, Cori
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Message 2267 - Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 1:23:27 UTC

3/14/2008 8:49:08 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:49:28 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 8 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:49:53 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:52:35 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:52:56 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks


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Message 2268 - Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 5:13:15 UTC - in response to Message 2267.  

3/14/2008 8:49:08 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:49:28 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 8 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:49:53 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:52:35 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:52:56 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks




part of the problem might be that i'm running db_purge right now -- as we have about 600,000 WU results in the database, which makes everything a bit slow. once it finishes things will probably be more available.
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Message 2273 - Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 6:29:20 UTC - in response to Message 2268.  

3/14/2008 8:49:08 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:49:28 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 8 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:49:53 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 3 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:52:35 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks
3/14/2008 8:52:56 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 4 new tasks




part of the problem might be that i'm running db_purge right now -- as we have about 600,000 WU results in the database, which makes everything a bit slow. once it finishes things will probably be more available.


Great. Thanks for the update.
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Message 2276 - Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 13:43:16 UTC

There's a "one day crunch contest" going on at PrimeGrid, several SETI.USA members are participating in it so that may help reduce the load here for a day while you're cleaning up the db.
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Message 2299 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 22:10:23 UTC

Well since I jinxed us with that other post maybe if I say need more work it will work?
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Message 2300 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 22:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 2299.  

Well since I jinxed us with that other post maybe if I say need more work it will work?


Nope. No Cute Kitten picture. Nice try, but no cigar.

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