Let us know if 1.19 is running that much faster on the windows environment -- if so we might have to reduce credit awarded to keep it in line with other projects.

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Let us know if 1.19 is running that much faster on the windows environment -- if so we might have to reduce credit awarded to keep it in line with other projects.

On mac-ppc i didn't see any difference,
on intel-mac it seems to have the credit-level of cpdn and APS.
so if reducing the credit, you should make the Macintosh-Application faster ;)
(for Linux I don't know at the moment).

Let us know if 1.19 is running that much faster on the windows environment -- if so we might have to reduce credit awarded to keep it in line with other projects.

On mac-ppc i didn't see any difference,
on intel-mac it seems to have the credit-level of cpdn and APS.
so if reducing the credit, you should make the Macintosh-Application faster ;)
(for Linux I don't know at the moment).

Well before such discussions can take place shouldn't we have a properly working app first ?

Wouldn't make any sense to cut credits here and there if the first goal should be fixing all issues that the project has as of now...

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Let us know if 1.19 is running that much faster on the windows environment -- if so we might have to reduce credit awarded to keep it in line with other projects.

What's happening with 1.18? Might be nice if you replied to my post, it would give some idea if you've actually done anything ;)

Al.

Getting about 6 minutes 10 seconds on each WU with 1.19 on my Athlon 64 @ 2.5GHz, platform Windows XP x86 SP3 RC.

On my AMD XP 2200 a WU crunches about 9-10 minutes under Windows 32-Bit. The checkpoint and progress bar did work fine for me.
But that crunching time is about 4 times faster than before!
So it gives me now a credit roundabout of ~ 41 credits for that comp!
That's the amount my AMD X2 did crunch before under Linux 64-Bit. :-D

On my AMD XP 2200 a WU crunches about 9-10 minutes under Windows 32-Bit. The checkpoint and progress bar did work fine for me.
But that crunching time is about 4 times faster than before!
So it gives me now a credit roundabout of ~ 41 credits for that comp!
That's the amount my AMD X2 did crunch before under Linux 64-Bit. :-D

Nice isn't it ? However before screaming for cutting credits there are plenty of more platforms that need to be checked before anything will happen.

Remember, first goal is to get a proper working APP! That's all that matters now!

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Other option for you ... we make the apps slow again. Is that a better choice for you ?
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Nice isn't it ? However before screaming for cutting credits there are plenty of more platforms that need to be checked before anything will happen.

So what's about a Linux 64-Bit app? I noticed it's still 32-Bit now...
And it did work fine under my openSuse 10.2 64-Bit.

Nice isn't it ? However before screaming for cutting credits there are plenty of more platforms that need to be checked before anything will happen.

So what's about a Linux 64-Bit app? I noticed it's still 32-Bit now...
And it did work fine under my openSuse 10.2 64-Bit.

You're sure about this ?
What version number do you see in the boinc client / boinc manager ?

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EDIT
Other option for you ... we make the apps slow again. Is that a better choice for you ?
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Nooooooo, please don't! *LOL*

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You're sure about this ?
What version number do you see in the boinc client / boinc manager ?

I'm crunching 1.19 since almost an hour without any problems now.
For example this one here.
Don't wonder about the core client version, it's an optimized one of a team member for openSuse.

EDIT
Other option for you ... we make the apps slow again. Is that a better choice for you ?
/EDIT

Nooooooo, please don't! *LOL*

Well to be honest with you all... the apps ARE already optimized quite a bit!
Depending on the OS and CPU features that we can safely use.

So don't comprare those apps to any "stock" application that you might get somewhere else ;)

If you do wanna draw some credit leveling lines ... please do compare the new 1.19 milkyway app ONLY to optimized seti@home apps OR those "power user apps" over at einstein@home... cuz stock won't fit here at all ;)

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You're sure about this ?
What version number do you see in the boinc client / boinc manager ?

I'm crunching 1.19 since almost an hour without any problems now.
For example this one here.
Don't wonder about the core client version, it's an optimized one of a team member for openSuse.

I'm not wondering since you basically noticed that 1.19 is quite faster depending on what arch/os combination you're using.

As i've written before you can't compare the 1.19 apps to any other stock apps regarding credit... since you all are "optimized" towards what can safely be asumed/used (OS/cpu features).

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Let us know if 1.19 is running that much faster on the windows environment -- if so we might have to reduce credit awarded to keep it in line with other projects.

What's happening with 1.18? Might be nice if you replied to my post, it would give some idea if you've actually done anything ;)

Al.

basically, some platforms are running 1.18 (or 1.17) and others 1.19. The windows and 32 bit linux weren't working correctly for a few tries, so they're at a higher number. The ppc-mac version is still 1.13 until i figure out why it wasn't running correctly.

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You're sure about this ?
What version number do you see in the boinc client / boinc manager ?

I'm crunching 1.19 since almost an hour without any problems now.
For example this one here.
Don't wonder about the core client version, it's an optimized one of a team member for openSuse.

I'm not wondering since you basically noticed that 1.19 is quite faster depending on what arch/os combination you're using.

As i've written before you can't compare the 1.19 apps to any other stock apps regarding credit... since you all are "optimized" towards what can safely be asumed/used (OS/cpu features).

yeah this is true. so i think we can maybe keep credit the same for now and see what other platforms we can be optimizing. everyone is doing the same amount of work still. What i was thinking about doing (if people think the awarded credit is too high) was since it's fixed credit per WU, just reduce that amount by a bit.

I don't think the optimized windows versions are performing much faster than on say my intel macbook pro, so i don't think its a huge problem at the moment.

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You're sure about this ?
What version number do you see in the boinc client / boinc manager ?

I'm crunching 1.19 since almost an hour without any problems now.
For example this one here.
Don't wonder about the core client version, it's an optimized one of a team member for openSuse.

I'm not wondering since you basically noticed that 1.19 is quite faster depending on what arch/os combination you're using.

As i've written before you can't compare the 1.19 apps to any other stock apps regarding credit... since you all are "optimized" towards what can safely be asumed/used (OS/cpu features).

yeah this is true. so i think we can maybe keep credit the same for now and see what other platforms we can be optimizing. everyone is doing the same amount of work still. What i was thinking about doing (if people think the awarded credit is too high) was since it's fixed credit per WU, just reduce that amount by a bit.

I don't think the optimized windows versions are performing much faster than on say my intel macbook pro, so i don't think its a huge problem at the moment.

Hmmm... leave credit where it is now since fixing issues is way more important than that crap... noticed the linux 32/64 bit thing ? we need to fix that ...

btw, shall i have a look at the mac stuff too ? Just let me know.
BTW, Dude i need your email too... since it'll help much coordinating things and not getting into the version mess that we got before since we could have been at 1.17 now ;)

Just pm me ;)

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You're sure about this ?
What version number do you see in the boinc client / boinc manager ?

I'm crunching 1.19 since almost an hour without any problems now.
For example this one here.
Don't wonder about the core client version, it's an optimized one of a team member for openSuse.

I'm not wondering since you basically noticed that 1.19 is quite faster depending on what arch/os combination you're using.

As i've written before you can't compare the 1.19 apps to any other stock apps regarding credit... since you all are "optimized" towards what can safely be asumed/used (OS/cpu features).

yeah this is true. so i think we can maybe keep credit the same for now and see what other platforms we can be optimizing. everyone is doing the same amount of work still. What i was thinking about doing (if people think the awarded credit is too high) was since it's fixed credit per WU, just reduce that amount by a bit.

I don't think the optimized windows versions are performing much faster than on say my intel macbook pro, so i don't think its a huge problem at the moment.

Hmmm... leave credit where it is now since fixing issues is way more important than that crap... noticed the linux 32/64 bit thing ? we need to fix that ...

btw, shall i have a look at the mac stuff too ? Just let me know.
BTW, Dude i need your email too... since it'll help much coordinating things and not getting into the version mess that we got before since we could have been at 1.17 now ;)

Just pm me ;)

Not a problem. What exactly is the linux 32/64 bit problem? I was pretty sure the 64 bit linux was working -- and the 32 bit that we just updated to 1.19 should be working to.

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Not a problem. What exactly is the linux 32/64 bit problem? I was pretty sure the 64 bit linux was working -- and the 32 bit that we just updated to 1.19 should be working to.

There's no app released for 64 bit linux ;) take a look at the app page...

However, there's an issue regarding the standart libc++ package on 32 bit linux...
I'll compile a new app tomorrow using STLPorts wich will avoid that kinda crap and fix those issues.

(ask Dave about STLport ...there are some other benifits too, he knows already)...

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Was just running a new 1.19 wu and after 6 mins it hardly had 10% done. So it would approx needed ~60 mins to complete. I suspended my CPDN model running on the other core and the Milkyway WU finished the last 90% within 2 mins. CPU usage was normal @ 100% with 50/50 on both Apps.

CPU is AMD x2 4200+ @ stock
Boinc version number 5.10.20
Win XP SP 2

Even though the Linux app has been improved it seems the Windows app now runs faster than Linux from the times given by various users from the computers they use.Just an observation when it comes to the credit side of the changes....of course a native 64bit Linux app may change my statement :)

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