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Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
I should have the problem with a few of the nbody workunits awarding 0 credit fixed today. Are there any other significant problems in credit or with the applications? If not, I think we'll have the double credit days next monday and tuesday, as things have finally been running smoothly. Or would it be better to have them on a weekend? |
Send message Joined: 26 Feb 11 Posts: 170 Credit: 205,557,553 RAC: 0 |
Dont have any problems but ok i use GPU Apps only ;) (ok on this days i will use some CPU cores too *GGGG*) The double credit days can be whenever you want, the computer can crunch alone :) I think monday/thuesday would be little better for me personal cos perhaps i can break Daily BOINC Overall 100k on monday with my oldie hardware ^^ DSKAG Austria Research Team: http://www.research.dskag.at |
Send message Joined: 15 Jul 08 Posts: 383 Credit: 729,293,740 RAC: 0 |
Or would it be better to have them on a weekend? No. |
Send message Joined: 29 Sep 10 Posts: 11 Credit: 72,179,032 RAC: 0 |
Weekend would be better! My Boinc Blog |
Send message Joined: 8 Aug 08 Posts: 30 Credit: 74,566,409 RAC: 0 |
Weekend would be better! +1 |
Send message Joined: 9 Nov 10 Posts: 19 Credit: 71,077,081 RAC: 0 |
Maybe a silly question, but is the double credit days for CPU only or also GPU? |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Maybe a silly question, but is the double credit days for CPU only or also GPU? Both. |
Send message Joined: 9 Nov 10 Posts: 19 Credit: 71,077,081 RAC: 0 |
Maybe a silly question, but is the double credit days for CPU only or also GPU? Nice! Only 'issue' is that one CPU core needs to be at idle to let MW@home use 99% of my GPU (6950). See also the tread in number-crunching: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=2461 |
Send message Joined: 12 Aug 09 Posts: 262 Credit: 92,631,041 RAC: 0 |
Hi Travis, What I see is that WU's with a longer runtime, but a shorter CPU time get less credit. I have made a post of it mounths ago, but none of the admins reacted. So it seems to me that credit is granted for the CPU time and not the run time. Is this correct or am I missing something important. In that case I apologize. Greetings from, TJ |
Send message Joined: 9 Nov 10 Posts: 19 Credit: 71,077,081 RAC: 0 |
Hi Travis, Maybe I can clear this up a bit for you. For example, a MW@home workunit that runs for 60 min (3600 sec) on a CPU and using 90% of that CPU. The actual amount of time the CPU spent on calculating that workunit is in that case : 3600x0.9=3240 sec. |
Send message Joined: 2 Apr 11 Posts: 14 Credit: 4,527,461 RAC: 0 |
Are there any other significant problems in credit or with the applications? Separation 0.82 for Mac OS X PowerPC seems a bit flaky. Three of the six tasks I recall completing with it (my "Application details" page says I've had seven) — including the two most recent — have received "inconclusive" validations and have earned no points at all. The others have been given only 214, 214, and 160 points respectively. Each has used between 14.5 and 19.5 hours of processor time on my 2.0 GHz G5. (Mac OS 10.4.11, BOINC 6.10.58.) For comparison, the version which was current when I attached to this project in April took around 25 hours 40 minutes to complete tasks, but they all validated (albeit "Application details" notes only 4 consecutive valid tasks) and earned two hundred and sixty-something points a piece. It's difficult to get excited about two days of double credit with the current app. ;) |
Send message Joined: 8 May 10 Posts: 576 Credit: 15,979,383 RAC: 0 |
Separation 0.82 for Mac OS X PowerPC seems a bit flaky. Three of the six tasks I recall completing with it (my "Application details" page says I've had seven) — including the two most recent — have received "inconclusive" validations and have earned no points at all.That's normal. You probably did get credit for them later when they did validate. That just means it's waiting for another workunit to return with the same result to validate against. |
Send message Joined: 19 Jul 10 Posts: 624 Credit: 19,302,355 RAC: 2,564 |
Three of the six tasks I recall completing with it (my "Application details" page says I've had seven) — including the two most recent — have received "inconclusive" validations and have earned no points at all. Those should have validate later, when the wingman was ready, unless yours were indeed invalid. That's always little difficult to see as they are purged here usually within 1 or 2 minutes. The others have been given only 214, 214, and 160 points respectively. That are the normal amounts of credits, 214 you get ATM for a de_separation_13_3s_fix* WU or for a ps_test* WU, and 160 credits you get for de_separation_13_3s_free* WUs, which are shorter. So that's OK. For comparison, the version which was current when I attached to this project in April took around 25 hours 40 minutes to complete tasks, but they all validated (albeit "Application details" notes only 4 consecutive valid tasks) and earned two hundred and sixty-something points a piece. 267 Cr WUs are ATM de_separation_10_3s_fix*, they take longer, so you get more credits, but you obviously didn't get any this time. But since all those tasks get pretty much exactly the same credit/CPU-time or runtime on GPU (at least after my calculations for my computers), that should not really matter if you make 2 short ones or one long. And the "consecutive valid tasks" thing is indeed little strange here. |
Send message Joined: 26 Feb 11 Posts: 170 Credit: 205,557,553 RAC: 0 |
perhaps he can make So+Mo as double days then every one is half happy ^^ DSKAG Austria Research Team: http://www.research.dskag.at |
Send message Joined: 20 Sep 08 Posts: 1391 Credit: 203,563,566 RAC: 0 |
Monday and Tuesday seems fine to me, but I'll go with the majority view. Just happy to have them really! Don't drink water, that's the stuff that rusts pipes |
Send message Joined: 15 Jul 08 Posts: 383 Credit: 729,293,740 RAC: 0 |
I think we'll have the double credit days next monday and tuesday, as things have finally been running smoothly. Don't want to seem greedy even though I am, but if I remember correctly it was to be 2 days due to the original credit loss. Since then we have had numerous other problems such as good WUs that don't validate because of rogue computers spewing bad results, valid WUs with 0 credit, etc. Any consideration for these. Hey, guess I am greedy! :) |
Send message Joined: 24 Dec 07 Posts: 1947 Credit: 240,884,648 RAC: 0 |
Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher... |
Send message Joined: 28 Aug 09 Posts: 23 Credit: 1,290,374,664 RAC: 225,772 |
for me better not in the weekend (going around....) |
Send message Joined: 2 Apr 11 Posts: 14 Credit: 4,527,461 RAC: 0 |
Three of the six tasks I recall completing with it (my "Application details" page says I've had seven) — including the two most recent — have received "inconclusive" validations and have earned no points at all. Thanks, Link and Matt, for your replies. I was being fooled by the purge and the lack of visible wingmen into thinking that "inconclusive" was the end of the matter here. I occasionally get "inconclusive" results with other projects, but there they mean something less neutral than "waiting for wingman" and the tasks always remain on the tasks pages until they're either validated or not. It's good to know too that the various numbers of points are associated with particular kinds of task — which I hadn't appreciated before — and that my having encountered the lower scorers at the same time as the application changed was entirely coincidental. I just hope my wingmen can hold off until Monday or Tuesday or whenever. ;) |
Send message Joined: 8 Feb 08 Posts: 261 Credit: 104,050,322 RAC: 0 |
Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher... Nothing against TGG but isn't it more important that someone is babysitting the mw server during this time? |
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