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Message 49542 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 19:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 49541.  
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Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher...


Nothing against TGG but isn't it more important that someone is babysitting the mw server during this time?


Len---Travis (post doctoral) and Matt (grad) are students as well. They have other matters to tend to in terms of their own studies. MW doesn't have the financial resources to have someone babysitting the server 24/7.

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Message 49545 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 19:50:33 UTC - in response to Message 49538.  

Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher...

Yes, weekend is better, than I can babysit my 3G connection, that needs sometimes more babysitting than all my computers together.
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Message 49547 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:08:28 UTC

Everything fine here with my GPU's, and I have also teste the CPU' Units also, and they are working fine, and pays as expected.
So weekend would be fine, I ve time for babysitting, (especialy my lame I-net connection)
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Message 49548 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:23:57 UTC - in response to Message 49541.  

Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher...


Nothing against TGG but isn't it more important that someone is babysitting the mw server during this time?


We have a slight problem with RPI's administration at the moment. They seem to like shutting down the air conditioning for the whole campus (including *facepalm* the server rooms), when it gets too hot (over 90 degrees F) so they can save some money.

That's been the cause of the last two or so outages of the server. Not quite much we can do about that, unfortunately.
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Message 49549 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:25:48 UTC - in response to Message 49542.  

Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher...


Nothing against TGG but isn't it more important that someone is babysitting the mw server during this time?


Len---Travis (post doctoral) and Matt (grad) are students as well. They have other matters to tend to in terms of their own studies. MW doesn't have the financial resources to have someone babysitting the server 24/7.


I've actually accepted an assistant professorship at University of North Dakota, so I'm moving up the ranks. I move out in August. Of course that means even more other matters to attend to. :P

But don't worry everyone, I'll still be working on MilkyWay@Home. :)
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Message 49550 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:27:15 UTC - in response to Message 49549.  

I'm almost thinking it might not be a bad idea to have the double credit be 2 days for the GPUs, but a week for CPUs (since it takes so much longer for a CPU to return a result). That way people who happen to download WUs right before the double credit period for their CPUs still have a chance to get double credit for them.
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Message 49551 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 20:32:08 UTC

This is no problem, when everybody knows the exact time, and how long it takes.
The new boinc Client can also recive messages. So this is another channel.

So the crunchers have time to configure backup projects, etc.

Its only a problem, when the project suddenly is down, and nobody know anything.
(and you must read SETI forum to know whats going on).

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Message 49552 - Posted: 24 Jun 2011, 21:20:15 UTC

Soooo soon it is midnight *G* will start double cr @ 0:00 o´clock on Weekend or not? *G* Nice to know for turning on the computer over night ^^
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Message 49558 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 5:16:33 UTC

I think the Milkyway staff should reconsider how you make promises an how you stick to it.


For example 'Milkyway screensaver coming soon' was posted 1 year ago and seams to never coming and the first 'double credit' was posted 17 days ago.


Personally there is no big deal for me to have the 'screensaver' or the 'double credit' my point is that you should not make promises without a plan 'how' and 'when' you are going to fulfill it. If you have no idea of 'IF' or 'WHEN' it will be done the just dont make any promises.


Also it would be nice if you post in the news here when you will shut down the server and a estimation of the time it will be down, so I have a chance to run other AMD\ATI projects like Folding@home while Mikyway is down.


And hey:) I still think Milkyway@home is state of the art in BOINC I just think that it is sad that no other science project in BOINC by default can make use of the DP capability of the AMD\ATI cards.


I hope that this was not too offensive for you Blurf ;)
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Message 49559 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 5:28:29 UTC

Wait until all user will have answered - will last only 500 years, I guess (Don't panic, Milkyway will still exist ;) ).
The answer at the end will be 49/49/2% or 42, I would need to start a boinc-project to calculate it exactly. :)
Most users here seem to crunch 24/7, if air condition is gracious.

So, is that question really of any importance? Why not surprise us some day "Oh, yes, I don't want forget to tell you: Last month, at 2 (or more) really cold days, we have had double points days"

(I'm not a 24/7-cruncher, but I don't will tell you more...)
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Message 49564 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 8:08:24 UTC
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Im not a 24/7 MW cruncher too, BUT i would do it for these 2 days and the day before and after (when i know it) when double credit is available (Perhaps you too? :)). MW was so often down and im crunching MW on my gamingPC witch runs only some hours on Weekend (energy is so expensive here :( ), there was not much to do often the last weekends (but now it runs fine since a week or so!, ok the sheduler has sometimes problems?). I have only a low end 3850 for MW so i cant break any records on double days, thats not my intention :)
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Message 49567 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 9:55:05 UTC - in response to Message 49542.  

Weekend works for me. That way I can babysit my main cruncher...


Nothing against TGG but isn't it more important that someone is babysitting the mw server during this time?


Len---Travis (post doctoral) and Matt (grad) are students as well. They have other matters to tend to in terms of their own studies. MW doesn't have the financial resources to have someone babysitting the server 24/7.


Blurf, I know all that and was not trying to slap anyone. Only trying to point out that chances might be higher to fix a possible problem with the server quickly during the week.
Personally I have more time to have an eye on my comp during the weekends too.

How is the weather forecast? Stable temps w/o sudden heat wave?
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Message 49569 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 10:25:56 UTC - in response to Message 49498.  

I should have the problem with a few of the nbody workunits awarding 0 credit fixed today. Are there any other significant problems in credit or with the applications?

If not, I think we'll have the double credit days next monday and tuesday, as things have finally been running smoothly. Or would it be better to have them on a weekend?

The sooner, the better.
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Message 49574 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 16:11:34 UTC

In June, please. (But I guess the needs of the many outweigh the vacation plans of the few.)
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Message 49575 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 17:51:12 UTC

Under the workunit screen it reports 0 credit, but under the task details credit is listed and I was given the said credit. Seems like it isn't reported to the Wu screen info. Don't know if it matters to anyone, just reporting it.

Workunit 38943582
name de_separation_13_3s_free_2_623589_1308834997
application MilkyWay@Home
created 23 Jun 2011 | 13:16:37 UTC
canonical result 56886518
granted credit 0.00
minimum quorum 1
initial replication 1
max # of error/total/success tasks 3, 9, 6

Completed and validated
22,338.08 --22,338.08 --159.86 --MilkyWay@Home v0.88

Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 49585 - Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 6:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 49549.  

I've actually accepted an assistant professorship at University of North Dakota, so I'm moving up the ranks. I move out in August. Of course that means even more other matters to attend to. :P

But don't worry everyone, I'll still be working on MilkyWay@Home. :)

Congratulations Travis. That's the first step to become a full professor.
I wish you all the best.
Greetings from,
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Message 49586 - Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 7:46:29 UTC - in response to Message 49569.  

I should have the problem with a few of the nbody workunits awarding 0 credit fixed today. Are there any other significant problems in credit or with the applications?

If not, I think we'll have the double credit days next monday and tuesday, as things have finally been running smoothly. Or would it be better to have them on a weekend?

The sooner, the better.

So, will it start Monday?
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Message 49596 - Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 17:20:45 UTC
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Hope travis dont forget it because of his great new job, having a party and lie drunken in a corner :) :)
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Message 49604 - Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 19:54:07 UTC

Oh I'm sure he won't. In any case he'd be tripping over us lot ;-))
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Message 49609 - Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 22:33:58 UTC

Where I live temperature will become 33°C on Monday and 35°C on Tuesday, so the 4 rigs will be off power to prevent excess heat. It is actually 28.7°C in my study so I am afraid that will become to warm to be in in the next two days.
So no double credit for me then.

However it would be more fair to start it random, as the outage started random as well. If it starts tomorrow I will miss it as a dedicated cruncher, but I don't care much as I am not a credit junkie, I only help the science I like or find usefull.

Happy crunching you all.
Greetings from,
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