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Message 51312 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 19:03:00 UTC

Looks like I'm going to have to drop the result and workunit tables to get the database working again. Feel free to cancel any workunits you have in progress. I apologize for this but it's looking like it's the only way to get the project back on it's feet in any reasonable amount of time.
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Message 51313 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 19:29:07 UTC

Getting:
10/9/2011 3:24:06 PM|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Also the Server & Task page don't want to load. Related I'm sure.
Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 51314 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 21:24:55 UTC

Just wondering if - in the future - the number of tasks/WUs a person can have cached can be increased, so we can keep working while the project is down? As it is, I have been without work for about 3 days now. Thanks.
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Message 51315 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 21:25:14 UTC - in response to Message 51313.  

Getting:
10/9/2011 3:24:06 PM|Milkyway@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Also the Server & Task page don't want to load. Related I'm sure.

its been ~2 hours since you posted - server status page is back up, as are all the other MW@H web pages.
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Message 51316 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 22:14:48 UTC - in response to Message 51312.  

Looks like I'm going to have to drop the result and workunit tables to get the database working again. Feel free to cancel any workunits you have in progress. I apologize for this but it's looking like it's the only way to get the project back on it's feet in any reasonable amount of time.

I have a full set of work units which are at "Ready to Report" status. Does this mean I am not going to get credit for them?
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Message 51317 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 22:32:28 UTC - in response to Message 51316.  

Looks like I'm going to have to drop the result and workunit tables to get the database working again. Feel free to cancel any workunits you have in progress. I apologize for this but it's looking like it's the only way to get the project back on it's feet in any reasonable amount of time.

I have a full set of work units which are at "Ready to Report" status. Does this mean I am not going to get credit for them?


Im in the same position.
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Message 51318 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 22:39:26 UTC

I only have 11 in the ready to report stage, of course you cannot abort those as they have already completed.
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Message 51319 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 22:43:04 UTC - in response to Message 51314.  

Just wondering if - in the future - the number of tasks/WUs a person can have cached can be increased, so we can keep working while the project is down? As it is, I have been without work for about 3 days now. Thanks.

Don't you have a backup project?
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Message 51320 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 22:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 51314.  

Just wondering if - in the future - the number of tasks/WUs a person can have cached can be increased, so we can keep working while the project is down? As it is, I have been without work for about 3 days now. Thanks.


If we increase the cache, then this type of database crash would happen significantly more often. We just don't have a powerful enough server to increase the size of the workunit and result tables that much.
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Message 51321 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 22:54:28 UTC - in response to Message 51317.  

Looks like I'm going to have to drop the result and workunit tables to get the database working again. Feel free to cancel any workunits you have in progress. I apologize for this but it's looking like it's the only way to get the project back on it's feet in any reasonable amount of time.

I have a full set of work units which are at "Ready to Report" status. Does this mean I am not going to get credit for them?


Im in the same position.


Sadly, that's the case. :( It was taking about an hour to do a single query on the result table -- which is why everything was brought to a screeching halt. The only way I could get things responsive again was to clear the result and workunit tables.

I'm going to have to lower the time workunits are kept in teh database, I think the number was too high and that's what caused the result table to get too large, corrupt and then crash the whole project.
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Message 51322 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 23:59:09 UTC - in response to Message 51321.  

What time limit are you going to try?
Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 51323 - Posted: 9 Oct 2011, 23:59:53 UTC - in response to Message 51319.  

Just wondering if - in the future - the number of tasks/WUs a person can have cached can be increased, so we can keep working while the project is down? As it is, I have been without work for about 3 days now. Thanks.

Don't you have a backup project?


I originally started with SETI and stayed with them for many years. However, about 18 months ago, their application kept locking up and I started doing MW as my backup...then I quit SETI altogether due to the probs. I thought I had found a good project with MW ... Guess I'm going to have to look around and see what else I can find to give this machine something to do.
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Message 51324 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 0:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 51323.  

You could try world community grid. They have a bunch of projects such as searching for a drug for a certain tropical disease (sorry it's a pain to recall the spelling) that infects several million people a year mostly children (no vaccine) existing treatments can be fatal or with serious side effects.

Others are to find organic substances that can be used to make solar cells with 20% efficiency thereby making solar power incredibly cheap and environmentally friendly in addition to providing a lot more power.

You can use the boinc manager to add the World Community Grid to your tasks and do both milkyway at home and world community grid tasks at the same time.
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Message 51325 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 0:51:31 UTC - in response to Message 51322.  

What time limit are you going to try?


right now 20% of a day, so about 5 hours.
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Message 51326 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 3:59:07 UTC - in response to Message 51320.  

If we increase the cache, then this type of database crash would happen significantly more often. We just don't have a powerful enough server to increase the size of the workunit and result tables that much.


Oy.. :( What's your DB size and especially result table size when you start having problems?

And I take it you can't increase the work size so there's more work to do for people for less result/workunits in the DB?
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Message 51327 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 4:16:07 UTC

So, what's the status on getting things flowing again?
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Message 51328 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 4:46:35 UTC - in response to Message 51327.  

So, what's the status on getting things flowing again?


Sometime tomorrow it's looking like. Things aren't quite ready yet and I do need to try and get some sleep. :(
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Message 51329 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 5:28:28 UTC

Seems like I have done a ton of work for this project only to have my results say that the result is being checked,or some such thing,and no credit is given. Happens WAY too much
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Message 51330 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 6:00:02 UTC
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We should donate something to geta new server for MW. This project stable would be good any days O.o
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Message 51331 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 6:26:43 UTC - in response to Message 51323.  

If you are looking for another Astro project, consider Einstein (assuming you are running CPU projects). If you are running an ATI GPU configuration, there are a few options - but not astro oriented -- Collatz -- excellent stability there though the credit payout is lower than MW (for what its worth), or Moowrapper or Dnet. Those projects also work with CUDA GPU's as well (and all three of them do NOT require double precision GPU's).




I originally started with SETI and stayed with them for many years. However, about 18 months ago, their application kept locking up and I started doing MW as my backup...then I quit SETI altogether due to the probs. I thought I had found a good project with MW ... Guess I'm going to have to look around and see what else I can find to give this machine something to do.


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