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Message 2979 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008, 18:30:36 UTC

I've started crunching couple of days ago and I've been quite surprised to see the following results with my machines per WU:

Mini 2.0 ghz (T7200) Mac OS 10.5 : 15 min 20 s
Mac Pro 2.66 Mac OS 10.5 : 11 min 29 s
Pentium IV 3 Ghz HT Win XP Pro: 11 min 44s
Dell Latitude 2 Ghz (T7200) Xp Pro 09 min 46 s

Comparing the first and last (same CPU), we have a -33% performance difference for the very same CPU under Mac OS 10.5.

Another Mac user gave similar results:
mini CD 2,16Ghz 11min 20s (100%)
mini C2D 2Ghz 15min 15s (70%)

These were posted in the macbidouille forum (French Hardmac)
http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?s=649f1672761587c8ee0b3d72939f502f&showtopic=248789&st=270

Anyone with similar issues ?

That is quite disapointing at the eve of a Raid, looks like Mac Intel users are going to run with a chain on their feet...
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Message 2984 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008, 20:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 2979.  

I've started crunching couple of days ago and I've been quite surprised to see the following results with my machines per WU:

Mini 2.0 ghz (T7200) Mac OS 10.5 : 15 min 20 s
Mac Pro 2.66 Mac OS 10.5 : 11 min 29 s
Pentium IV 3 Ghz HT Win XP Pro: 11 min 44s
Dell Latitude 2 Ghz (T7200) Xp Pro 09 min 46 s

Comparing the first and last (same CPU), we have a -33% performance difference for the very same CPU under Mac OS 10.5.

Another Mac user gave similar results:
mini CD 2,16Ghz 11min 20s (100%)
mini C2D 2Ghz 15min 15s (70%)

These were posted in the macbidouille forum (French Hardmac)
http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?s=649f1672761587c8ee0b3d72939f502f&showtopic=248789&st=270

Anyone with similar issues ?

That is quite disapointing at the eve of a Raid, looks like Mac Intel users are going to run with a chain on their feet...



in the last version of the application we did a lot of optimizations to the non-intel macs, so thats probably the reason you're seeing the difference in speed. we're working on re-compiling for intel macs to speed everything up.
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Message 2991 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 1:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 2984.  

in the last version of the application we did a lot of optimizations to the non-intel macs,


You did? On my G5 PPC, app 1.21 is taking exactly the same time per task as app 1.13 did.
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Message 2993 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 2:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 2991.  

in the last version of the application we did a lot of optimizations to the non-intel macs,


You did? On my G5 PPC, app 1.21 is taking exactly the same time per task as app 1.13 did.


well, we updated everything non-mac i guess ;) i thought the PPC macs were optimized but i guess not. this is pretty high on our to-do list. we'd like to have macs inline with windows/linux. before the optimizations i think the macs were the fastest.
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Message 2999 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 4:38:16 UTC - in response to Message 2993.  



well, we updated everything non-mac i guess ;) i thought the PPC macs were optimized but i guess not. this is pretty high on our to-do list. we'd like to have macs inline with windows/linux. before the optimizations i think the macs were the fastest.


Hi Travis,

Thanks for your reply.

If you have a look at other projects, you'll see that this is definitely worth it: G5 bi-pro and Mac Pro are quite common in the top 20 crunching machines, quite amazing taking into account the Apple market share.

I do not such OS/Cpu combination in MW stats, thus IMHO, it deserves the pretty high priority on your to-do list. ;-)
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Message 3001 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 4:57:05 UTC - in response to Message 2999.  



well, we updated everything non-mac i guess ;) i thought the PPC macs were optimized but i guess not. this is pretty high on our to-do list. we'd like to have macs inline with windows/linux. before the optimizations i think the macs were the fastest.


Hi Travis,

Thanks for your reply.

If you have a look at other projects, you'll see that this is definitely worth it: G5 bi-pro and Mac Pro are quite common in the top 20 crunching machines, quite amazing taking into account the Apple market share.

I do not such OS/Cpu combination in MW stats, thus IMHO, it deserves the pretty high priority on your to-do list. ;-)



It may be due to the Mac's crunching abilities....but I'm thinking it has more to do with fairness to all participants as far as urgency :)
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Message 3006 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 9:20:56 UTC

:-)

Right but project interest and fairness to participants are not incompatible at all.

It is about combining the pleasure of participating to a scientific project and the fun (something childish, but I'm a big child eventually) of participating to a competition.

;-)))


If you're looking for volunteers to test some alpha/beta Macintel versions, do not hesitate...
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Message 3007 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 9:48:42 UTC - in response to Message 2999.  



well, we updated everything non-mac i guess ;) i thought the PPC macs were optimized but i guess not. this is pretty high on our to-do list. we'd like to have macs inline with windows/linux. before the optimizations i think the macs were the fastest.


Hi Travis,

Thanks for your reply.

If you have a look at other projects, you'll see that this is definitely worth it: G5 bi-pro and Mac Pro are quite common in the top 20 crunching machines, quite amazing taking into account the Apple market share.

I do not such OS/Cpu combination in MW stats, thus IMHO, it deserves the pretty high priority on your to-do list. ;-)


well, it's also sort of personal. both my machines are macs :D dave uses one as well. we just need to dig a bit farther into xcode and get it to use the same optimization flags we used on the other versions.

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Message 3011 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 16:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 3007.  


well, it's also sort of personal. both my machines are macs :D dave uses one as well. we just need to dig a bit farther into xcode and get it to use the same optimization flags we used on the other versions.


Okido, in the meantime, I put all my machines (PC and Macs) 99% on MW for the Alliance Francophone Raid.

Thanks !

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