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Message 53566 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 19:59:37 UTC

I saw according to statistic, that M@H is running now.

I let crunched ati (3850) to solve GPU units over then year. Boinc 6.12.34 (64bit) don´t receive any more GPU units. I start to change ati catalist. I tried 11.12, 9.3 , and 9.1 for now. Sometimes I got message like "current catalist don´t support M@H, but not now. -- still no more work.

GPU units for Collatz conjecture works perfectly.

Could you advice me that version of catalist I have to use or how solve it? Thanks

Win 7 64bit.
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Message 53567 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 20:43:11 UTC

I believe the ATI HD3850, with the right drivers including the AGP hotfix, cannot crunch Milkyway, but is OK at Collatz and Moo!.

It is now too old for the current application client
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Message 53568 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 21:11:41 UTC - in response to Message 53567.  
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You´re saying that application for M@H has been updated with requirements for newer technologies that even ATI HD3850 (express 16x 2.0 (not AGP)) can´t hold it?
It this just your logical idea or do you have any inner information?
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Message 53570 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 21:28:35 UTC - in response to Message 53568.  
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You´re saying that application for M@H has been updated with requirements for newer technologies that even ATI HD3850 (express 16x 2.0 (not AGP)) can´t hold it?
It this just your logical idea or do you have any inner information?

Read this thread for more information... I believe you can use your 3850, but you have to run the old 0.82 app and use an app_info.xml file.
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Message 53582 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 22:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 53570.  
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I´ll use this thread, becouse of full of staff initial for this problem.

You´re saying that application for M@H has been updated with requirements for newer technologies that even ATI HD3850 (express 16x 2.0 (not AGP)) can´t hold it?
It this just your logical idea or do you have any inner information?

Read this thread for more information... I believe you can use your 3850, but you have to run the old 0.82 app and use an app_info.xml file.




Strange. I did everything what they adviced on your link.
in order

I uninstaled boinc manager and catalist/driver
then instaled ati driver + catalist: Catalyst 12.1 driver
- Upgraded to 7.08 client.
then
I used http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=59
then I followed orders inside. (Shut down connected client, act)

then pushed to buttom for a new work. (info about missing exe file appeared in manager)

Someone else on your link had same problem. I folowed next instrucion about to switch to 0.82 version.

I downloaded exe file from:"http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/download/"
I chose this on: "milkyway_separation_0.82_windows_x86_64__ati14.exe" (becouse of my system)

then I edited "app_info.xml" file for a new file. (As you know just rewrite name of exefile on two places)

Of course I didn´t forget to disconnet of current client and reset of manager during switching application.

Then I let to download a new WUs again ..... and nothing happend event after repeate of last step.

All advices from your link runed up.
Do you have any other or can you see my mistake? I can´t.

Thanks

EDIT: oooooouuuu after several dozent minutes M@H started to crunch gpu units.
I still have everything set up for 0.82 version, but in manager is 1.02 ver. (who cares... it is working.. this fine)

Thank you for your link.
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Message 53583 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 23:15:25 UTC - in response to Message 53582.  

EDIT: oooooouuuu after several dozent minutes M@H started to crunch gpu units.
I still have everything set up for 0.82 version, but in manager is 1.02 ver. (who cares... it is working.. this fine)

Thank you for your link.

You are very welcome. Glad to know that you are back in business. Well done. :-)
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Message 53609 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 12:20:40 UTC

It's a bit of a workaround for 3850 cards but it can be done. Happy crunching!

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Message 53627 - Posted: 11 Mar 2012, 21:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 53609.  
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I´m so glad that there are guys to be ready to answer and help with all kind of troubles around crunching....

Btw happy crunching twice literally, becouse I prepared my PC to crunch 24h a day (no fans and SSD inside :) )
I just love science and everything around it.
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Message 53634 - Posted: 12 Mar 2012, 12:31:15 UTC - in response to Message 53627.  

I´m so glad that there are guys to be ready to answer and help with all kind of troubles around crunching....

Btw happy crunching twice literally, becouse I prepared my PC to crunch 24h a day (no fans and SSD inside :) )
I just love science and everything around it.


BE CAREFUL with the SSD! They are VERY sensitive to how many times you can WRITE to them, you hit the magic max number and poof the drive is GONE!!! There are write caching programs that can DRASTICALLY reduce the number of writes. By default Boinc does one very 60 seconds!!!!
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Message 53636 - Posted: 12 Mar 2012, 14:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 53634.  

BE CAREFUL with the SSD! They are VERY sensitive to how many times you can WRITE to them, you hit the magic max number and poof the drive is GONE!!! There are write caching programs that can DRASTICALLY reduce the number of writes. By default Boinc does one very 60 seconds!!!!

Do you actually know someone, who "killed" his SSD by writing lots of data to it? I don't, not even thru any forum. Everyone is in panic, when they should write something to a SSD, even not one died for them or anyone they know.

After years of complaining about how short lifetime HDDs have, suddenly they seem to last forever when people want to camplain about a short lifetime of SSDs.
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Message 53638 - Posted: 12 Mar 2012, 19:31:27 UTC

There were a couple problems with some of the earliest SSD drives having relatively short lifespans, but the technology has improved considerably since then. A good SSD should last for many years without any problems.
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Message 53641 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 1:21:42 UTC - in response to Message 53638.  
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There were a couple problems with some of the earliest SSD drives having relatively short lifespans, but the technology has improved considerably since then. A good SSD should last for many years without any problems.



Exactly. I don´t scare of limits of rewriting on SSDs.

I bought Intel 320 128GB, which has 5000x rewrite to every memory cell, others SSD has "just" 3000 rounds.(still far more then neccesary)

At the same time. Intel has the furthers technology for write algorithm on SSD to keep him alive as long as possible, when free space is low in nowdays.

Let´s count for 5 years long live. (I don´t except longer required time.)
(128GB*5000)/(5*365) = 350GB-write a day. Try it.... lol

There is no need to worry about it. :)

I´m not first who used PC just with SSD.
Total quiet PC is fine at work.
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Message 53642 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 11:10:10 UTC - in response to Message 53636.  

BE CAREFUL with the SSD! They are VERY sensitive to how many times you can WRITE to them, you hit the magic max number and poof the drive is GONE!!! There are write caching programs that can DRASTICALLY reduce the number of writes. By default Boinc does one very 60 seconds!!!!

Do you actually know someone, who "killed" his SSD by writing lots of data to it? I don't, not even thru any forum. Everyone is in panic, when they should write something to a SSD, even not one died for them or anyone they know.

After years of complaining about how short lifetime HDDs have, suddenly they seem to last forever when people want to camplain about a short lifetime of SSDs.


'Know', not personally, but I can read on the message boards of people who have and have posted possible solutions. But if you are okay, then let's just move on, hopefully it WAS an issue and is NOT one anymore!
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Message 53643 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 11:30:08 UTC

13.03.2012 12:25:03 | Milkyway@Home | No work available
And no Validation of WU's since 10:30 UTC
Obviously I'm not the only one.

what's going on?
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Message 53645 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 12:15:11 UTC

You are not the only one, me too :)
Server status page is showing count of 0 available WUs to send out.
Some explanation from project guys would be good....
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Message 53646 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 12:44:25 UTC

I am seeing a cooling shutdown for today. That might be it ??

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Message 53648 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 13:12:17 UTC

Looking into it now...

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Message 53649 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 13:46:32 UTC

Wonder if the current situation is related to the challenge, or coincidence? It's been blissfully rock solid for many weeks now.
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Message 53650 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 15:59:33 UTC


Of course its the challenge. ;-p When ever a MW-challenge
is running, the wu`s mysteriously dry up.

If MW needs to blame it on someone, I am ready. ;-)))
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Message 53651 - Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 16:04:36 UTC

what challenge? i see nothing about a challenge anywhere in the forums...unless i overlooked it.
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