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Send message Joined: 19 Jul 10 Posts: 623 Credit: 19,262,226 RAC: 637 |
But this rises another question: should BOINC download CPU tasks on project attach if project preferencies say "don't download CPU tasks" ? BOINC obeys... but only when first tasks already downloaded. AFAIK BOINC gets the preferences for the venue, to which the machine has been assigned, together with the first scheduler reply, so that behavior seems correct. You should eventually could see it in the log, when it gets an host ID assigned, I'm pretty sure it's not in the moment when it's attached to the project, but when it first asks for work. |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
Ok. I checked original version on brother's smartphone (with ARMv6 VFP). Unfortunatelly I got good results (without NaN's). Do you can tell me what was you crunching workunit (series)? I crunched ps_separation_09_2s workunit. Please check project directory (milkyway) and please do not suspend/resume workunit (too often) when crunched (it impact on the final results). You can simply detach/attach project or reinstall NativeBOINC. |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 12 Credit: 25,605,994 RAC: 11 |
Glad to see PrimeGrid added an app for The Riesel Problem (Sieve). Keep them coming! |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
Ok. primegrid 5.0 is broken (please lookup on the wiki news: https://github.com/matszpk/native-boinc-for-android/wiki/News), because had bug in the wrapper. Current version (5.1) handles properly unexpected app exits (for example kills by the system). |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
I have important message: I moved NativeBOINC to my new domain: nativeboinc.org. New version of the NativeBOINC will be downloading binaries and news from files.nativeboinc.org. Currently I am preparing website for NativeBOINC. New info at https://github.com/matszpk/native-boinc-for-android/wiki/News and fetched news by NativeBOINC. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
Ok. I checked original version on brother's smartphone (with ARMv6 VFP). Unfortunatelly I got good results (without NaN's). Do you can tell me what was you crunching workunit (series)? I crunched ps_separation_09_2s workunit. Please check project directory (milkyway) and please do not suspend/resume workunit (too often) when crunched (it impact on the final results). You can simply detach/attach project or reinstall NativeBOINC. Sorry for long delay, I was occupied with other things. Of course can't recall what series were that time so will re-do this experiment again. Unfortunately, MW is my the only chance to make use of this device for BOINC cause all other projects require too much free inner space and NativeBOINC still can't make use of SD card space. EDIT: ps_separation_09_2s_sample2_* task was downloaded. Will report how it goes later. EDIT2: Before re-attaching to MW NativeBOINC manager and core client were updates to latest revisions. Fresh MW app was downloaded at project attaching so I started with fresh MW installation this time. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
Well, this task ran better than previous (I did not press power button through whole run, phone screen was always on, dimmed), but not perfect: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=233358927 as one can see, another hosts complete task faster (though it took less than 2 days to get result) and my task got validation error. So, it's unknown is it valid or invalid, server refused to check it. From device side it finished w/o error and was uploaded so I think it could be validated ok, no computation error. What strange: NativeBOINC was restarted few times (not only MW task, but very NativeBOINC itself). What caused such restart? Not sure. At least one time I saw kind of SMS message (screen popup) came around time NetiveBOINC was restarted. What caused another restarts - no idea. Of course, NativeBOINC restart means MW task restart too so it was impossible to run w/o restarts at all. I captured different computation stages of this task as separate SD-card snapshots but cause there was no computation error I'm not sure if these snapshots interesting/useful. NativeBOINC log doesn't show the cause of restart unfortunately. Now I run another task from de_separation_09_2s_sample_2_*. Will do SD-card snapshots while it goes again. It's url: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=234070478 |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
And this task completed with computation error.... It was restarted more times than prev one. Also, looks like prev task was invalid. What is strange: task with computation error now shows 0 seconds of elapsed time. Also both CPU time and Last checkpoint (CPU time) in task properties are zero. But this task ran quite a few hours before computation error. Why all times are zeroed ? Can it be connected with damaged checkpoint somehow? Maybe checkpointing for this app build has some bug? (also, it shows zero progress too, though it was almost completed before computation error). EDIT: on ARMv7 CPU in tablet I have no problems with validation: http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=454110 Maybe ARMv6 CPU can't provide required precision at all ? |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
Very likely, too many restarts caused incorrect results. Milkyway app doesnt save all work in the checkpoints (only part of precisions). This app uses the Kahan adding, which saves precision. Unfortunatelly it is not saved on the checkpoints. But I can check again computations on the brother's smartphone to prove this thesis. Thanks. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
Since last post I did more tests. Few tasks were completed on that device working in usual manner. I don't think app was restarted many times for each task but few restarts per taks seem unavoidable (even with "untouched" state I saw some NativeBOINC restarts before). So far all completed tasks were invalid ones. All those I saw finished with computation error. Current host web page state: Task click for details Show names Work unit click for details Sent Time reported or deadline explain Status Run time (sec) CPU time (sec) Credit Application 304225172 241018442 22 Sep 2012 | 18:21:58 UTC 24 Sep 2012 | 9:12:47 UTC Error while computing 116,170.09 108,015.80 --- MilkyWay@Home Anonymous platform (CPU) 298594345 236322884 14 Sep 2012 | 17:59:32 UTC 22 Sep 2012 | 18:21:58 UTC Error while computing 125,549.60 108,899.00 --- MilkyWay@Home Anonymous platform (CPU) Last result: <core_client_version>6.12.38</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255) </message> <stderr_txt> <search_application> milkyway_separation 1.00 Linux ARM double </search_application> Unrecognized XML in project preferences: max_gfx_cpu_pct Skipping: 0 Skipping: /max_gfx_cpu_pct Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_poll_period Skipping: 30 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_poll_period Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_float_speed Skipping: 5 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_float_speed Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Skipping: 250 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_point_point_size Skipping: 40 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_point_point_size Error loading Lua script 'astronomy_parameters.txt': [string "number_parameters: 4..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '4' Error reading astronomy parameters from file 'astronomy_parameters.txt' Trying old parameters file <search_application> milkyway_separation 1.00 Linux ARM double </search_application> Unrecognized XML in project preferences: max_gfx_cpu_pct Skipping: 0 Skipping: /max_gfx_cpu_pct Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_poll_period Skipping: 30 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_poll_period Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_float_speed Skipping: 5 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_float_speed Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Skipping: 250 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_point_point_size Skipping: 40 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_point_point_size Error loading Lua script 'astronomy_parameters.txt': [string "number_parameters: 4..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '4' Error reading astronomy parameters from file 'astronomy_parameters.txt' Trying old parameters file suspend activities resume activities suspend activities resume activities suspend activities resume activities Integral 0 time = 137721.704647 s Failed to calculate integral 0 Failed to calculate likelihood <background_integral> NaN </background_integral> <stream_integral> NaN NaN </stream_integral> <background_likelihood> NaN </background_likelihood> <stream_only_likelihood> NaN NaN </stream_only_likelihood> <search_likelihood> NaN </search_likelihood> 12:38:42 (12370): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> Prev result: <core_client_version>6.12.38</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255) </message> <stderr_txt> <search_application> milkyway_separation 1.00 Linux ARM double </search_application> Unrecognized XML in project preferences: max_gfx_cpu_pct Skipping: 0 Skipping: /max_gfx_cpu_pct Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_poll_period Skipping: 30 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_poll_period Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_float_speed Skipping: 5 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_float_speed Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Skipping: 250 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_point_point_size Skipping: 40 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_point_point_size Error loading Lua script 'astronomy_parameters.txt': [string "number_parameters: 4..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '4' Error reading astronomy parameters from file 'astronomy_parameters.txt' Trying old parameters file <search_application> milkyway_separation 1.00 Linux ARM double </search_application> Unrecognized XML in project preferences: max_gfx_cpu_pct Skipping: 0 Skipping: /max_gfx_cpu_pct Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_poll_period Skipping: 30 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_poll_period Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_float_speed Skipping: 5 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_float_speed Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Skipping: 250 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_point_point_size Skipping: 40 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_point_point_size Error loading Lua script 'astronomy_parameters.txt': [string "number_parameters: 4..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '4' Error reading astronomy parameters from file 'astronomy_parameters.txt' Trying old parameters file <search_application> milkyway_separation 1.00 Linux ARM double </search_application> Unrecognized XML in project preferences: max_gfx_cpu_pct Skipping: 0 Skipping: /max_gfx_cpu_pct Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_poll_period Skipping: 30 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_poll_period Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_float_speed Skipping: 5 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_float_speed Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Skipping: 250 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_point_point_size Skipping: 40 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_point_point_size Error loading Lua script 'astronomy_parameters.txt': [string "number_parameters: 4..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '4' Error reading astronomy parameters from file 'astronomy_parameters.txt' Trying old parameters file suspend activities <search_application> milkyway_separation 1.00 Linux ARM double </search_application> Unrecognized XML in project preferences: max_gfx_cpu_pct Skipping: 0 Skipping: /max_gfx_cpu_pct Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_poll_period Skipping: 30 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_poll_period Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_float_speed Skipping: 5 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_float_speed Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Skipping: 250 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_textured_point_size Unrecognized XML in project preferences: nbody_graphics_point_point_size Skipping: 40 Skipping: /nbody_graphics_point_point_size Error loading Lua script 'astronomy_parameters.txt': [string "number_parameters: 4..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '4' Error reading astronomy parameters from file 'astronomy_parameters.txt' Trying old parameters file suspend activities resume activities Integral 0 time = 101005.527139 s Failed to calculate integral 0 Failed to calculate likelihood <background_integral> NaN </background_integral> <stream_integral> NaN NaN </stream_integral> <background_likelihood> NaN </background_likelihood> <stream_only_likelihood> NaN NaN </stream_only_likelihood> <search_likelihood> NaN </search_likelihood> 06:28:08 (1095): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> For last task I did whole NativeBOINC snapshots at ~92%, ~95% task completion and before reporting. Will extract and upload MW folders. Looks like checkpointing improving is essential. From the other side, I'm almost sure there were no restarts between 95% and ultimate computation error. That is, some gradual loss of precision is possible, app not fails immediatelly on resuming from checkpoint, but after some more computations done, at very end of computations. EDIT: BTW, if you need to run some debug/verbose build for checking why error occurs I will glad to run such build on my device. EDIT2: Link with mentioned MW state snapshots: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60381958/NativeBOINC_MW_app_debug.rar |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
ok. I prepared debug version: available at http://files.nativeboinc.org/debug/milkyway-debug-distrib.zip. Anybody, who want to send me debug results (for debugging this app) can use this via NativeBOINC (update from SDCard) or as standalone application (running from terminal emulator or adb shell). This version creates 'debug_data.txt', which contains intermediate results (desired by me for debugging). to Raistmer: I consider, that you problems (with milkyway) caused by hardware or very strange OS incompatibility (I really dont know why). You can help me to investigate their reasons. PS.: I am sorry for delayed answer. I am working on the SDCard installation feature (it needed testing, research :) ) Thanks. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
ok. I prepared debug version: available at http://files.nativeboinc.org/debug/milkyway-debug-distrib.zip. Sure will do. I was distracted with other activity too, now will continue with NativeBOINC testing. BTW, what preferable way to report issues? I used GitHub issues before, now there is Trac (so I already created Trac ticket for some issue linked with new SD card ability). Trac ticket or GitHub Issue: what is more convenient to you ? |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
Tried to install debug binary into NativeBOINC via update binary from SD. Cant, it says no new binaries found |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
Ok. rename zip file to 'MilkyWay@Home.zip' or 'Milkyway@Home.zip'. One of the given names should be work. NativeBOINC searches binaries by project name or distribution project name. |
Send message Joined: 5 Nov 10 Posts: 69 Credit: 15,064,831 RAC: 0 |
Hi. Used 100% OK on a generic 7" tablet and an ODROID-X. Big, big thanks. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
Ok. rename zip file to 'MilkyWay@Home.zip' or 'Milkyway@Home.zip'. One of the given names should be work. NativeBOINC searches binaries by project name or distribution project name. Thanks, second one go OK. What I should do to get useful debug info? Should I do snapshots on some % done or just suspend network and sent final state to you? |
Send message Joined: 18 Oct 12 Posts: 8 Credit: 145,940,032 RAC: 0 |
Hi, NativeBOINC downloaded, installed and running great on my Ice Cream Motorolla Razr. Pauses when on battery, nice status screen and options, big thumbs up here awesome work. R. |
Send message Joined: 21 May 11 Posts: 16 Credit: 2,001,753 RAC: 0 |
Simply, suspend workunit, dump boinc directory and get debug_data.txt on the slot directory of a workunit. I dont need debug for a fully crunched workunit. |
Send message Joined: 27 Jun 09 Posts: 85 Credit: 39,805,338 RAC: 0 |
Ok, here is the file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60381958/debug_data.txt.7z I think you find some interesting there: streamData: 0: sum=-9.378893700808814431e+60,corr=3.143412892622864462e-10 1: sum=-3.269667431103558338e+43,corr=-8.283224747184779746e-01 2: sum=4.564673771342388591e+02,corr=-1.648059257626835993e-14 BgProb: sum=1.499540830335913631e-04,corr4.068722784552303161e-21 step: nu=406,mu=0 streamData: 0: sum=-9.378893700808814431e+60,corr=-4.166763153152042154e-02 1: sum=-3.269667431103558338e+43,corr=-3.346770785495461809e+00 2: sum=-1.897804144654852500e+15,corr=-4.992987497661696694e-02 BgProb: sum=NaN,corrNaN step: nu=407,mu=0 streamData: 0: sum=5.477781213074433216e+63,corr=-4.788975681913954402e-20 1: sum=-3.269667431103558338e+43,corr=9.789898484307859405e+01 2: sum=-1.897804144654973250e+15,corr=-6.339234217429283447e-02 BgProb: sum=NaN,corrNaN Looks like loss of precision happened quite early in processing... |
Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 12 Credit: 25,605,994 RAC: 11 |
matszpk, do you have plans on getting nativeBOINC to work on the x86 Android version? I currently am testing 4.1.1 in a Virtualbox. Your app will download and start installing, but it gets to the point of unpacking native client and then never finishes. I have tried installing it the normal way and with the older device option as well with the same result. I'm sure as Intel continues to work on x86 handheld devices, this will become a necessity. |
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