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Message 61350 - Posted: 7 Mar 2014, 23:41:49 UTC

Good question! Didn't even know about the d/l folder!
Maybe worth asking 1 of the MW staff that?
Or I could just try it! If I knew how, time to read the BOINC wiki.....

Btw you mean these right?

[ ] milkyway_separation__modified_fit_1.28_windows_intelx86.exe 17-Sep-2013 15:11 940K
[ ] milkyway_separation__modified_fit_1.28_windows_intelx86__opencl_amd_ati.exe 17-Sep-2013 15:11 1.1M
[ ] milkyway_separation__modified_fit_1.28_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia.exe 17-Sep-2013 15:11 1.1M

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Message 61354 - Posted: 8 Mar 2014, 3:00:47 UTC
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Yep, those are the ones I mean.

Found the answer in the introduction thread for the 1.28 app.
It seems the Win x86 apps still have a bug letting them error out immediately. :(
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Message 61355 - Posted: 8 Mar 2014, 9:15:30 UTC - in response to Message 61354.  
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Damn :(, ok thx for that, although a link to that thread would of been handy ;).

This 1 I assume? http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=3357
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Message 61362 - Posted: 8 Mar 2014, 13:05:01 UTC - in response to Message 61355.  

I forgot to tell you that ALL of my times are set on boards with ONLY pci-e version 2.0 slots. None of my boards have pci-e version 3.0 slots yet.
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Message 61366 - Posted: 8 Mar 2014, 13:14:04 UTC - in response to Message 61362.  

Ok, no probs, don't think it makes much difference for MW, IIRC!
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Message 61368 - Posted: 9 Mar 2014, 16:25:48 UTC

An AMD 6970 running in a pci-e pci 2.0 slot is taking 165.534 on average for the longer 213.76 credit units. NO overclocking gpu is running at 880mhz and 1375mhz according to gpu-z 0.7.2.
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Message 61369 - Posted: 9 Mar 2014, 22:41:37 UTC - in response to Message 61368.  
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Thx for the time mikey :), that's the 1stb 6970 we've had on the chart!
I would of thought they'd be loads of them crunching MW.......

Btw you just bought that 1?

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Requirements for benchmark, validated 213.76 credit WUs only, average of 5 WU times, dedicated CPU core for the GPU, please state clock speeds if overclocked (including factory o/cs) or state 'stock'. It would also be handy if you could state your BOINC & driver version & OS, incase it does make any odds.
[update] It seems MW@H have now (20th Feb. ish) released new faster 213.76 credit WUs along with the previously 'standard' speed WUs, so going by the benchmarks gathered upto the 17/2/14, you need to average 5 of the longer 213.76 credit WUs only. Each 'speed' WU should only vary by a few seconds or so where their is nothing else working the GPU.

Oh & for the benchmark please only crunch 1 WU at a time per GPU otherwise it will massively increase WU time, naturally! ;) (even if it does increase output), and the WU times seem to fluctuate much more than singly crunched WU so you can't 1/2 the time either. For CPUs you'll want to crunch 1WU per real core.

Current GPU statistics ~ Average Time to Complete 1 'long' 213.76 credit WU :-

HD 7970 (GPU 1150 MHz) ....................................... 75s Sunny129
R 280X (GPU 1100 MHz) ......................................... 75s Mumak
R 280X (GPU 1030 MHz) ......................................... 77s Dunx
HD 7970 (GPU 1100 MHz) ....................................... 77s Sunny129
HD 7970 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1400 MHz, Cat 14.1) .. 78s Mesyn191
HD 7950 (GPU 1100 MHz) ....................................... 80s Leonheart
HD 7950 (GPU 1100 MHz) ....................................... 81s Mumak,
HD 7970 (GPU 1050 MHz) ....................................... 81s Sunny129
HD 7950 (GPU 900 MHz) ......................................... 82s WES
HD 7970 (stock) .................................................... 83s mikey
HD 7970 (GPU 1000 MHz) ....................................... 85s Sunny129
HD 7950 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1500 MHz,Cat 14.1 b) . 87s Leonheart
HD 7970 (GPU 950 MHz) ......................................... 90s Sunny129 (same time when RAM u/c to 800 MHz!)
HD 7950 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1500 MHz) ................ 95s Leonheart
HD 7870 XT (stock) .............................................. 120s Matt
HD 7950 (GPU 850 MHz) ....................................... 121s salvordorhardin
HD 6970 (stock) .................................................. 165s Mikey
HD 6950 (stock) .................................................. 176s Icecold
HD 5870 (stock) .................................................. 192s mikey
HD 5850 (GPU 850 MHz) ....................................... 210s Assim1
HD 5850 (GPU 850 MHz, RAM u/c 500 MHz) ............ 211s Assim1
HD 5850 (GPU 775 MHz) ...................................... 231s Assim1
HD 5850 (GPU 750 MHz) ...................................... 245s salvordorhardin
HD 5850 1GB (stock) ........................................... 246s Assim1 (1st post)
HD 5850 1 GB (GPU 800 MHz) .............................. 246s petrusbroder
GTX 780 Ti (stock) .............................................. 403s ... Linux - 395s biodoc
GTX Titan .......................................................... 414s Yankton (GPU load only 18% despite a free CPU core)
HD 4870 512 MB (stock) ...................................... 444s JumpinJohnny
GTX 560 Ti 448c (GPU 880 MHz) ........................... 471s GleeM
HD 4870 1GB (stock) ........................................... 503s Assim1
GTX 570 (stock) .................................................. 520s - Linux biodoc
GTX 480 (GPU 750 MHz) ...................................... 520s Dunx
HD 4850 1 GB (stock) .......................................... 553s wayliff
GTX 770 (GPU 1333 MHz) .................................... 609s Stojag
HD 4830 512 MB (GPU 670 MHz) .......................... 615s Assim1 (1st post)
HD 7770 GHz ed. (GPU 1100 MHz) ........................ 724s Mumak
HD 7770 GHz ed. (stock) ..................................... 807s Deerslayer
GTX 660 Ti (GPU 1046 MHz) ................................. 816s - Linux biodoc
GTX 560 Ti (stock) .............................................. 836s Deerslayer
HD 7750 (GPU 900 MHz, RAM 1300 MHz) ............. 1096s branjo
GTX 460 (GPU 750 MHz) 768 MB ......................... 1127s - Linux Ken g6

Current CPU statistics ~ Average Time to Complete 1 'long' 213.76 credit WU :-

Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 (Turboing to 3.7 GHz) ...... 9881s Stojag
Intel Core 2 Q9550 (3.6 GHz, 424 MHz FSB) ..... 12,532s Assim1
Intel Core i7-3612QM ..................................... 13,068s mikey
AMD Phenom II X4 965 (3.41 GHz) .................. 13,774s JumpinJohnny
Intel Core 2 Q8300 ........................................ 14,949s mikey
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T ............................... 14,950s mikey
AMD FX 6300 ................................................ 15,521s mikey
AMD FX 6100 ................................................ 17,449s mikey
Intel Core 2 Q8200 ........................................ 19,542s mikey
AMD Phenom 9850 ........................................ 25,844s mikey

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Message 61373 - Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 12:03:12 UTC - in response to Message 61369.  

Thx for the time mikey :), that's the 1stb 6970 we've had on the chart!
I would of thought they'd be loads of them crunching MW.......

Btw you just bought that 1?


When I bought it yes I only bought one but it is NOT brand new for me, I have had it for a couple of years or so. In fact I shipped it off to a friend who was interested in buying it but it didn't work well for him so he sent it back. I put it in a machine just to make sure it still works for me, who knows what differences we had in our pc's, but it seems to be working fine as of right now. He did see a problem in the color being displayed and I did see that too in the past, but I thought it was just a bad monitor so swapped it with another one. I have not seen the funky colors come thru yet, but I am going to let it run for a couple more days then switch to the 7970 that should be in that machine. At that point my rac should break the million per day mark, at least until I have to move to another project.
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Message 61374 - Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 17:53:32 UTC

Awesome output! :D
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Message 61376 - Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 19:59:55 UTC - in response to Message 61373.  

At that point my rac should break the million per day mark, at least until I have to move to another project.

I'm jealous! :)
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Message 61381 - Posted: 11 Mar 2014, 10:56:28 UTC - in response to Message 61376.  

At that point my rac should break the million per day mark, at least until I have to move to another project.

I'm jealous! :)


Save your nickels and dimes now and when you retire you too can do it. I hit just over a million just yesterday and it's only going up from here. The darned Einstein units on my 7970's were sometimes taking 30+ hours each so I moved the last one that was over there to here, so both that are currently running are here now and I will bring the 3rd one on line shortly. I did order a new Nvidia 760 gpu yesterday and it will replace a 5870 that is currently running MW, the new gpu will run Einstein instead. My AMD's are just not very good at Einstein, THEY DO WORK, just not very efficiently!
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Message 61382 - Posted: 11 Mar 2014, 12:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 61381.  

At that point my rac should break the million per day mark, at least until I have to move to another project.

I'm jealous! :)


The darned Einstein units on my 7970's were sometimes taking 30+ hours each...

...My AMD's are just not very good at Einstein, THEY DO WORK, just not very efficiently!

which Einstein tasks are taking 30+ hours to crunch on your 7970? the BRP4 Perseus Arm Survey tasks only take a few hours each on my 7970, and that's running them 3 at a time. the BRP4G Arecibo GPU tasks only take ~1 hour each on my 7970, and they also run 3 at a time. the new FGRP3 GPU tasks are quite immature, but they only take ~3 hours each on my 7970 (as opposed to 11 hours for the CPU versions of the same tasks), and i run those 6 at a time.
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Message 61384 - Posted: 11 Mar 2014, 16:36:46 UTC - in response to Message 61382.  

At that point my rac should break the million per day mark, at least until I have to move to another project.

I'm jealous! :)


The darned Einstein units on my 7970's were sometimes taking 30+ hours each...

...My AMD's are just not very good at Einstein, THEY DO WORK, just not very efficiently!

which Einstein tasks are taking 30+ hours to crunch on your 7970? the BRP4 Perseus Arm Survey tasks only take a few hours each on my 7970, and that's running them 3 at a time. the BRP4G Arecibo GPU tasks only take ~1 hour each on my 7970, and they also run 3 at a time. the new FGRP3 GPU tasks are quite immature, but they only take ~3 hours each on my 7970 (as opposed to 11 hours for the CPU versions of the same tasks), and i run those 6 at a time.


I too was doing 3 at a time and doing the same units you are, this is the unit I aborted after 30 hours of work and not even being close to being done:
PA0092_00771_122_1 185359665 9 Mar 2014 18:34:25 UTC 10 Mar 2014 20:27:54 UTC Aborted by user 39,641.57 551.85 2.96 --- Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Perseus Arm Survey) v1.39 (BRP5-opencl-ati)

I had another unit that was showing just over 11 hours before I aborted it:
PA0091_050D1_224_0 185424399 10 Mar 2014 1:25:40 UTC 10 Mar 2014 20:28:10 UTC Aborted by user 10,421.75 1,248.12 6.70 --- Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Perseus Arm Survey) v1.39 (BRP5-opencl-ati)

The numbers on the website do NOT reflect what Boinc was reporting on my pc. MW is very happily running on the gpu right now so I am good to go.
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Message 61389 - Posted: 13 Mar 2014, 11:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 61376.  
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At that point my rac should break the million per day mark, at least until I have to move to another project.


I'm jealous! :)


Due to the delay in the reporting, or getting, of the daily stats for MW at FreeDC yesterday my numbers for MW were 2,324,500 and so far today are 465,093.

However the pc with the 6950 in it died on me again, I am thinking it isn't the heat this time but the power supply. I may have to totally redo the machine as it won't even come on right now! It has been a good, though old, quad core cruncher for me for a long time but 2 power supplies and a cpu fan in 2 weeks may be close to the end for it. I have not tested the 2nd power supply yet, but it is doing the same thing as when the first one quit. BOTH are 850 watt psu's!
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Message 61390 - Posted: 13 Mar 2014, 17:52:24 UTC - in response to Message 61389.  

You need to get a DMM on it to see what the voltages are, can you try the PSU in another rig?

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Message 61392 - Posted: 14 Mar 2014, 11:58:04 UTC - in response to Message 61390.  
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You need to get a DMM on it to see what the voltages are, can you try the PSU in another rig?


Yes, but I also have a psu test plug thingy that I got at the local mom and pop computer store that works too. I will probably take the old one out, an 850 watt one, and put in a 585 watt one and after taking out the gpu and putting in a standard pci one, see if it powers back up again. I have a stack of old ones on the shelf. I also have a brand new 750 watt one on the shelf too, but if the machine is breaking psu's I really don't want to waste the money on another good one. This could be an extended test period for the machine to figure out if it stays or just gets replaced.
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Message 61404 - Posted: 15 Mar 2014, 14:02:35 UTC

Since no HD 5830 has been reported yet:
The slow ones take 282s each.
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=690429473

The gpu runs at stock values: 800 MHz gpu clock, 1000 MHz memory clock.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/product_index.aspx?pid=1153&lid=1

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Ah wicked, thx :), was hoping 1 of those would show up.

Btw what h/w is giving you times of 400-500s? http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=471998&offset=40&show_names=0&state=4&appid=10

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Still many cards missing from the table e.g ATI/AMD R7s some R9s, HD 6930 (rare 1 that!) o/ced 6900s, 4890, 4700s, NVidia 200s series, some 400s, some 500s, some 600s & 700s. Not to mention many CPUs!

I would test my own GTX 260 c216 but the 32bit MW mod fit app is bugged (& hence not automatically available).
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Message 61406 - Posted: 15 Mar 2014, 16:19:21 UTC - in response to Message 61405.  
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So please share your new scores for old & new GPUs & CPUs alike! :)
I will update the table as necessary.

Requirements for benchmark, validated 213.76 credit WUs only, average of 5 WU times, dedicated CPU core for the GPU, please state clock speeds if overclocked (including factory o/cs) or state 'stock'. It would also be handy if you could state your BOINC & driver version & OS, incase it does make any odds.
[update] It seems MW@H have now (20th Feb. ish) released new faster 213.76 credit WUs along with the previously 'standard' speed WUs, so going by the benchmarks gathered upto the 17/2/14, you need to average 5 of the longer 213.76 credit WUs only. Each 'speed' WU should only vary by a few seconds or so where their is nothing else working the GPU.

Oh & for the benchmark please only crunch 1 WU at a time per GPU otherwise it will massively increase WU time, naturally! ;) (even if it does increase output), and the WU times seem to fluctuate much more than singly crunched WU so you can't 1/2 the time either. For CPUs you'll want to crunch 1WU per real core.

Current GPU statistics ~ Average Time to Complete 1 'long' 213.76 credit WU :-

HD 7970 (GPU 1150 MHz) ....................................... 75s Sunny129
R 280X (GPU 1100 MHz) ......................................... 75s Mumak
R 280X (GPU 1030 MHz) ......................................... 77s Dunx
HD 7970 (GPU 1100 MHz) ....................................... 77s Sunny129
HD 7970 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1400 MHz, Cat 14.1) .. 78s Mesyn191
HD 7950 (GPU 1100 MHz) ....................................... 80s Leonheart
HD 7950 (GPU 1100 MHz) ....................................... 81s Mumak
HD 7970 (GPU 1050 MHz) ....................................... 81s Sunny129
HD 7950 (GPU 900 MHz) ......................................... 82s WES
HD 7970 (stock) .................................................... 83s mikey
HD 7970 (GPU 1000 MHz) ....................................... 85s Sunny129
HD 7950 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1500 MHz,Cat 14.1 b) . 87s Leonheart
HD 7970 (GPU 950 MHz) ......................................... 90s Sunny129 (same time when RAM u/c to 800 MHz!)
HD 7950 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1500 MHz) ................ 95s Leonheart
HD 7870 XT (stock) .............................................. 120s Matt
HD 7950 (GPU 850 MHz) ....................................... 121s salvordorhardin
HD 6970 (stock) .................................................. 165s Mikey
HD 6950 (stock) .................................................. 176s Icecold
HD 5870 (stock) .................................................. 192s mikey
HD 5850 (GPU 850 MHz) ....................................... 210s Assim1
HD 5850 (GPU 850 MHz, RAM u/c 500 MHz) ............ 211s Assim1
HD 5850 (GPU 775 MHz) ...................................... 231s Assim1
HD 5850 (GPU 750 MHz) ...................................... 245s salvordorhardin
HD 5850 (stock) ................................................. 246s Assim1 (1st post)
HD 5850 (GPU 800 MHz) ...................................... 246s petrusbroder
HD 5830 (stock) ................................................. 282s Pheonix
GTX 780 Ti (stock) .............................................. 403s ... Linux - 395s biodoc
GTX Titan .......................................................... 414s Yankton (GPU load only 18% despite a free CPU core)
HD 4870 512 MB (stock) ...................................... 444s JumpinJohnny
GTX 560 Ti 448c (GPU 880 MHz) ........................... 471s GleeM
HD 4870 1GB (stock) ........................................... 503s Assim1
GTX 570 (stock) .................................................. 520s - Linux biodoc
GTX 480 (GPU 750 MHz) ...................................... 520s Dunx
HD 4850 1 GB (stock) .......................................... 553s wayliff
GTX 770 (GPU 1333 MHz) .................................... 609s Stojag
HD 4830 512 MB (GPU 670 MHz) .......................... 615s Assim1 (1st post)
HD 7770 GHz ed. (GPU 1100 MHz) ........................ 724s Mumak
HD 7770 GHz ed. (stock) ..................................... 807s Deerslayer
GTX 660 Ti (GPU 1046 MHz) ................................. 816s - Linux biodoc
GTX 560 Ti (stock) .............................................. 836s Deerslayer
HD 7750 (GPU 900 MHz, RAM 1300 MHz) ............. 1096s branjo
GTX 460 (GPU 750 MHz) 768 MB ......................... 1127s - Linux Ken g6

Current CPU statistics ~ Average Time to Complete 1 'long' 213.76 credit WU :-

Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 (Turboing to 3.7 GHz) ...... 9881s Stojag
Intel Core 2 Q9550 (3.6 GHz, 424 MHz FSB) ..... 12,532s Assim1
Intel Core i7-3612QM ..................................... 13,068s mikey
AMD Phenom II X4 965 (3.41 GHz) .................. 13,774s JumpinJohnny
Intel Core 2 Q8300 ........................................ 14,949s mikey
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T ............................... 14,950s mikey
AMD FX 6300 ................................................ 15,521s mikey
AMD FX 6100 ................................................ 17,449s mikey
Intel Core 2 Q8200 ........................................ 19,542s mikey
AMD Phenom 9850 ........................................ 25,844s mikey

OS Windows, unless otherwise stated. CPU at stock clock where no speed shown.

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Message 61408 - Posted: 15 Mar 2014, 20:30:15 UTC - in response to Message 61405.  

Ah wicked, thx :), was hoping 1 of those would show up.

Btw what h/w is giving you times of 400-500s? http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=471998&offset=40&show_names=0&state=4&appid=10

The short tasks take 189s, so the linked WU must be one of those. For the benchmark I run 1 task and deactivated all cpu work units. Now I am back to my normal setup: 2 milkyway gpu tasks in parallel and 4 WCG (clean energy project) tasks on the cpu (i5 3570). With this setup the cpu and gpu run at 99-100%. I know it isn't optimised for maximum MW crunching power but I also want to support the other project ;)

I am also running games and other things on the pc so my times can vary alot.

Overall I am very satisfied with my gpu. I paid about 90€ when it came out and the performance is still ok :)
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