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Message 63507 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 21:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 63504.  

That's indeed strange. Even more since 1550MHz Memory seems a little high...
Well, sometimes different version of MSI Afterburner helps.

You might want to try:
MSI Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 15: http://goo.gl/h95FWE

Like the guy from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJiWMwK11I

I'm able to downclock Memory. Without this my R9 280Xs would not be stable enough for S@H or Einstein@Home.
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Message 63508 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 21:10:04 UTC

it is that high because it is the black OC edition, xfx oc'd these cards to 1080 core and 1550 memory themselves already.
i have tried and downloaded several beta versions of afterburner from that page, and every single one says after installing; 'cannot run, this version of afterburner is either corrupted, outdated or has files missing'
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Message 63512 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 9:12:12 UTC

Then I don't really know what to do.
Have you tried "last resort" - calling manufacturer/vendor?
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Message 63513 - Posted: 4 May 2015, 10:08:07 UTC
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i ve considered doing that myself. i might register at xfx today and send an email to their support, thx for your help anyway!

btw@ assimilator i have seen that you wanted some times for the 69xx series. before i bought a 280x i had a 6950 and here, http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=3715&postid=63118#63118 i posted my times when i still had it running.

42 seconds for 1 wu @ standard 820mhz and
34 seconds for 1wu @ 1000 mhz overclocked.
card was an msi amd hd6950 with unlocked shaders (1536 instead of 1408, so basically a 6970 for mw@home)
these times were the same over weeks so you might want to add them ;)
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Message 63523 - Posted: 5 May 2015, 17:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 63513.  

And those times are for 106.88 credit MW v1.02 WUs?
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Message 63524 - Posted: 5 May 2015, 17:31:28 UTC

yes sir. they were the exact same workunits we are crunching right now
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Message 63525 - Posted: 5 May 2015, 17:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 63524.  
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Ok cool, I'll add that time then, thx :)

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Current GPU statistics ~ Average Run Time to Complete 1 MW v1.02 106.88 credit WU :-

HD 7970 (GPU 1200 MHz, RAM 1550 MHz) .............. 21.3s ... tictoc (Win 7)
R9 280X (GPU 1185 MHz, RAM 1600 MHz) .............. 23s ...... DutchDK
R9 280X (GPU 1125 MHz, RAM 975 MHz) ................ 23.1s ... Arivald Ha'gel
R9 280X (GPU 1180 MHz, RAM 1550 MHz) .............. 23.13s . khrylxtko
R9 280X (GPU 1100 MHz, RAM 1500 MHz) .............. 23.5s ... TennesseeTony
HD 7970 (GPU 1200 MHz, 1550 MHz) ..................... 23.7s ... tictoc (Win 10, also a different PC)
R9 280X (GPU 1100 MHz, RAM 950 MHz) ................ 24.1s ... Arivald Ha'gel
HD 7950 (GPU 1188 MHz, RAM 1250 MHz) .............. 24.1s ... GLeeM
HD 7970 GE (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM u/c 1375 MHz) .... 25s ...... DrPop
R9 280X (GPU 1070 MHz, RAM 1600 MHz) .............. 25s ...... WES
HD 7950 (GPU 1080 MHz, RAM 1250 MHz) .............. 27s ...... DR4GOON
HD 7950 (GPU 1000 MHz, RAM 1250 MHz) .............. 28.1s ... GLeeM
HD 7950 (GPU 1050 MHz, RAM 1250 MHz) .............. 29s ..... DR4GOON
HD 7950 (GPU 925 MHz, RAM 1250 MHz) ............... 31.2s ... salvorhardin
HD 7950 (GPU 900 MHz) ...................................... 33s ...... Tom*
HD 6950 (bios unlocked to 6970, GPU 1000 MHz) .... 34s ..... khryl
HD 7870 XT Boost (GPU 975 MHz, RAM 1500 MHz) .. 34.1s ... kozicka
HD 7950 (stock) .................................................. 39.8s ... Rudy Toody
HD 6950 (bios unlocked to 6970, GPU 820 MHz) ...... 42s ...... khryl
HD 7950 (stock) .................................................. 42.8s ... wayliff
HD 5970 (GPU 900 MHz, RAM 1200 MHz) ................ 43.7s ... superpower (dual GPU card)
HD 5870 (GPU 850 MHz, RAM u/c 600 MHz) ............ 46.2s ... swiftmallard
HD 5850 (GPU 850 MHz, RAM u/c 500 MHz) ............ 51s ..... Assimilator1
HD 5970 (GPU 735 MHz, RAM 1010) ...................... 52.6s ... superpower (dual GPU card)
HD 5850 (stock) .................................................. 60s ..... Assimilator1
HD 4850 (stock) ................................................. 121s .... TennesseeTony
GTX 980 (GPU 1417 MHz, RAM 6000 MHz) ............. 130s .... Biodoc (Linux)
HD 7850 (GPU 1030 MHz, RAM 1200 MHz) ............. 139.4s . usao
HD 4830 (stock) ................................................. 161s .... TLS
GTX 970 (GPU 1114-1253 MHz) ........................... 165s .... Orange Kid
GTX 560 Ti (stock) ............................................. 252s .... zzuupp
R9 m275 (stock) ................................................ 290s .... waffleironhead
GTX 670 (stock) ................................................. 363s .... zzuupp
GTX 690 (stock) ................................................. 394s .... S@NL - JBG (dual GPU card)
GTX 750 Ti (stock) ............................................. 445s ..... TLS
GTX 260 c216 (stock) ......................................... 454s ..... Assimilator1
GT 610 (stock) ................................................. 1827s .... M0CZY

Current CPU statistics ~ Average CPU Time to Complete 1 MW v1.0x 106.88 credit WU :-

Intel i7-5820K (o/c 4.1 GHz) ............................... 2055s ... TennesseeTony
Intel C2Q Q9550 (o/c 3.6 GHz) ............................ 3159s ... Assimilator1
Intel Xeon X5570 (Turboing to 3.2 GHz) ............... 3376s ... DutchDK
Intel Xeon X5650 (o/c 4.1 GHz) ........................... 4130s ... DR4GOON
AMD Phenom 940 (3 GHz) .................................. 4680s ... TLS
Intel i7-4702MQ @2.2GHz, (HT on) ...................... 6245s ... Maxwell
AMD X2 4600 (2.4 GHz) ...................................... 9780s ... TLS
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Message 63697 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 21:38:14 UTC

Thanks for this nice list Assimilator1.

But did you take in account, that the AMD GPU apps need 3 times the crunching power than the Nvidia gpu apps?

Check this list_

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php

I am struggeling to get my Titan Black fully utilized. And stumbled over this list while finding a way to use the 1,3 Terraflop crunching power.
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Message 63698 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 21:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 63697.  
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http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php

Linked :P ;)

Where do you see that AMD GPUs need 3 times the crunching power?
I don't see it in the above link, only tallies of computing power donated (I think).
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Message 63700 - Posted: 11 Jun 2015, 1:42:48 UTC
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In the linked list, 7th and 8th row for above:

Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU	1.02 (opencl_amd_ati)	10 Feb 2012, 7:11:09 UTC	56,748 GigaFLOPS

Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU	1.02 (opencl_nvidia)	10 Feb 2012, 7:11:06 UTC	17,646 GigaFLOPS


In the last section of the list "Milkyway@Home Separation (Modified Fit)" it gets even worse for Nvidia cards:

Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU	1.36 (opencl_ati_101)	        6 Oct 2014, 20:18:32 UTC	15,667 GigaFLOPS

Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU	1.36 (opencl_nvidia_101)	6 Oct 2014, 20:18:35 UTC	4,951 GigaFLOPS


I think the shown gigaflops mean the average computing power needed to finish a task.



Ok, looks like i got fooled by thinking about this list too much. I really seems that it is the current crunching power donated to Milkyway@home. But for some reason the Mac crunching at the end of the list seems way off.


Update for my GTX Titan Black:

I just found out how useful the app_config.xml is :)

Runnin 10 tasks on the Titan, and i have enabled Double Precision in the Nvidia Driver. I hope i can compare the times with the 7970s in a day or so, when i have enough finished tasks to average the times. Theoretically it should be 30% faster than i 7970. But i've read that it is difficult to access the full power with opencl. I hope for the same crunching power then.
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Message 63710 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 8:28:59 UTC

Yea I'd be interested to know.

And yea I saw that whacky Mac crunching power number too, lol.
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Message 63713 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 1:04:42 UTC

Well, a little while ago two of my 7950's died. :(
So I just gave in and upgraded to a 780 Ti.

Gigabyte GTX 780 Ti @ 1084-1111MHz core 6800MHz mem = 157 sec each

I still have 1 7950 which I need to get installed in my rig.
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Message 63722 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 19:52:47 UTC - in response to Message 63713.  

From 5+ WUs?
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Message 63727 - Posted: 16 Jun 2015, 15:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 63722.  

From 5+ WUs?

Yes. Specifically it's a 157.23 Sec average.
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Message 63728 - Posted: 16 Jun 2015, 16:43:23 UTC - in response to Message 63727.  
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Cool, thanks :).

Will add it to the AT thread now & here when we get a few more times.
RIP the 2 7950's btw :(, do you know why they died?
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Message 63732 - Posted: 16 Jun 2015, 21:55:22 UTC - in response to Message 63728.  

The sapphire card started giving memory errors & BSOD's after I replaced the fans, probably because I bent the PCB too far while taking the cooler off and cracked a solder connection.

And one of my msi cards just decided it wanted to be a brick, all I did was take it out of the pcie slot and put it back in and it stopped working. :S

Oh well, both will be put into the oven to see if I can bring them back for at least a little while longer.
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Message 63735 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 18:37:27 UTC - in response to Message 63732.  
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Lol, good luck :) I tried that once with a laptop m/brd, no joy. Got another to do still, now I think about it!

Re the MSI card, ESD death?
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Message 63743 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 21:50:54 UTC
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DR4GOON, i can feel with you, a few month ago my 7870XT stopped working.

I have updated times for the GTX Titan Black GPU at stock speed of 889MHz.

The MilkyWay@Home v1.02 (opencl_nvidia) tasks need an average time of 208.82 seconds when i run 8 WUs at once.

And the Milkyway@Home Separation (Modified Fit) v1.36 (opencl_nvidia_101) need 60.624 seconds when 8 WUs are ran at once.

I need to run 8 WUs in parallel, so i can get 99% GPU usage.

Average time per WU, if it would one be one:

MilkyWay@Home v1.02 (opencl_nvidia)
25.23s (201.82s/8)

Milkyway@Home Separation (Modified Fit) v1.36 (opencl_nvidia_101)
7.58s (60.624s/8)

But you have to enable the Double Precison feature in the Nvidia driver. Otherwise the time are much much longer, and the CPU is heavily used.

The times are from this Computer: (Not overclocked)
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=593293


PS: [TA]Assimilator1 look at the links in your GPU-Times list. For some reasons the are two "http://" in the beginning of the links. List of GPU-Times

Example:
http://"http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=3551&postid=63236"
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Message 63744 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 23:30:40 UTC - in response to Message 63743.  

Yea I know, it's this forum that borks the links :(.
It adds an extra http when I paste in the links, I'm not editing every single line each time I paste a new graph as it would just take ages.
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Message 63746 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 10:23:01 UTC
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Ok I'm going to relent from my requirements that only 1WU be crunched at any 1 time, but only for the GTX Titan as that seems to be a special case where it can't get anywhere near a full load with 1 WU. I will add a proviso stating that the time is an average of x number WUs running at once.

If people know of any other GPUs that aren't fully, or near fully loaded (say 90%+) with running just 1 WU then LMK, but so far I believe the Titan is the only 1.

I will update the thread in AnandTech now & post a new table here soon (Sebastian made a request to edit the links so they work here, I await his reply :) ).

Sebastian
Thx for your times, I will add them :)
Looking back through your last 300 MW v1.02 valid results it seems the vast majority of them are inbetween 194-200s, so I'll take your time as is.
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