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Message 4359 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 20:25:40 UTC - in response to Message 4324.  

I'm not sure which projects it was (I thought it was this one but maybe not I'd have to check posts) in early stages the WUs were aborted with because maximum CPU time exceeded. Anyway, I thought it was the projects that was aborting because I don't see a setting In BOINC Manager or BAM to set a CPU Max Time and they weren't running too long before being aborted.

Actually, My PIIs don't do too bad. They are definately better than the Cyrus 100 & AMD 100 I retired. Never tried an AMD 25 though :D. I do have more MW WUs left in the PII that aren't going to make it by deadline because when I got them Time to finish was like 20+ minutes but now it's 68+ hours.

Hehe. My Pen D 3.0Ghz had a hard time meeting the deadlines but they did. It went from 6 to 9 mins to 9+ hours on them. Hopefully, they are ready to crunch with ease again.

The max run time is set by the project administrators. I believe that Orbit recently had this problem.


That's what I tought it was the projests but wasn't sure. I got some of those long WUs OAH come out with too. More that one on some hosts. :-)
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Message 4363 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 20:38:18 UTC - in response to Message 4331.  
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My Pentium III says "Goodbye" to Milkyway.
The new workunit-length is killing my machine!!!
When Workunit-length is shortened, mayby he ┬┤ll be back ...


Oh My. I have a Pen D 3.0G with 15 MW WUs that the deadline is in 6 hours. That's because of the 9 mins TTC to 9 Hours TTC. They just started running yesterday so I'll only complete 7 of the 20 because of the change of length.

My PII 266Mhz ran one in 68+ hours :-). There shouldn't be anymore flood of WUs once BOINC Manager get the completion right. Nobody will have to complain on only 20 WUs per host now.

Edited: Looks Like I'll have a good many to abort.
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Message 4384 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 22:28:22 UTC

Has the MilkyWay work units been extended again?
My Opteron 285 has been doing these in less than 4 hours and as low as 2.54 hours, but I now have one that has been running for 9 hours and it is only at 46%. It is a gs_3720282_1216093681_2573596_1 model.
I did not add the actual WU link as it will be purged as soon as it is returned.
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Message 4385 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 22:34:50 UTC - in response to Message 4384.  

Has the MilkyWay work units been extended again?
My Opteron 285 has been doing these in less than 4 hours and as low as 2.54 hours, but I now have one that has been running for 9 hours and it is only at 46%. It is a gs_3720282_1216093681_2573596_1 model.
I did not add the actual WU link as it will be purged as soon as it is returned.


About 20 seconds after it reaches 50%, it should complete. Maybe you've been lucky and just gotten the medium length ones before this one.


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Message 4424 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 16:29:59 UTC - in response to Message 4384.  

Has the MilkyWay work units been extended again?
My Opteron 285 has been doing these in less than 4 hours and as low as 2.54 hours, but I now have one that has been running for 9 hours and it is only at 46%. It is a gs_3720282_1216093681_2573596_1 model.
I did not add the actual WU link as it will be purged as soon as it is returned.


No they have not been extended again. The 3720282 and 3721282 are the long WUs from when I first increased it, but after that they have only been shortened. The 3730382 and 3731382 should run between half and a quarter of the time of those above.
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Message 4427 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 18:35:48 UTC - in response to Message 4196.  

Adding to what Thunder said.....Nate has already said that Travis will increase the deadlines soon,so these short deadlines won't last long ;)


Yeah, we'll be making some changes to the deadlines and number of WUs downloaded at a time ASAP. We'll just have to deal with it until then, sorry.


So you sent Work Units out with wrong FLOP counts. When the machines finished they adjusted their DCF's. Now you, the project, get the back side, a much lower total FLOP count for your project.
Wed Jul 23 07:40:06 2008|Milkyway@home|Message from server: No work sent
Wed Jul 23 07:40:06 2008|Milkyway@home|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 100% of time, BOINC on 100.0% of that

BONIC is very slow to lower the DCF. I'm not inclined to reset it by hand on my machines either, because until the correct FLOP counts are being sent with the work units it will just reset to some ridiculously high value anyway.

Good luck as I suspect a large number of machines will never ever be able to down load a work unit from Milkyway again.

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Message 4472 - Posted: 25 Jul 2008, 11:58:09 UTC - in response to Message 4424.  

Has the MilkyWay work units been extended again?
My Opteron 285 has been doing these in less than 4 hours and as low as 2.54 hours, but I now have one that has been running for 9 hours and it is only at 46%. It is a gs_3720282_1216093681_2573596_1 model.
I did not add the actual WU link as it will be purged as soon as it is returned.


No they have not been extended again. The 3720282 and 3721282 are the long WUs from when I first increased it, but after that they have only been shortened. The 3730382 and 3731382 should run between half and a quarter of the time of those above.


Thanks for the update Nate, much appreciated.
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Message 4512 - Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 11:01:45 UTC - in response to Message 4145.  

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The answer to the big question is YES, the deadlines will be changed. The only reason it hasn't been done yet is that I do not know how, and Travis is out of town until today or tomorrow. However, it will be fixed ASAP.
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Til now i didn't see any change with deadlines.

Will it come? My computers are set to run when not in use. Some get only about one hour/day to crunch on five days/week.

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Message 4617 - Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 17:57:38 UTC - in response to Message 4424.  

No they have not been extended again. The 3720282 and 3721282 are the long WUs from when I first increased it, but after that they have only been shortened. The 3730382 and 3731382 should run between half and a quarter of the time of those above.


Is the plan to only run with the 373's from now on?

I've been getting a mixture of flavours, but less 371s and 372s - Are these just reissued WUs or are they still being generated?

I only ask because my slowest host really isn't suitable for the long WUs and could be more usefully utilised on another project.

The medium WUs are OK by me - Longer than I usually like, but I can live with it at the moment :)

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Message 4619 - Posted: 2 Aug 2008, 19:32:42 UTC - in response to Message 4617.  
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No they have not been extended again. The 3720282 and 3721282 are the long WUs from when I first increased it, but after that they have only been shortened. The 3730382 and 3731382 should run between half and a quarter of the time of those above.


Is the plan to only run with the 373's from now on?

I've been getting a mixture of flavours, but less 371s and 372s - Are these just reissued WUs or are they still being generated?

I only ask because my slowest host really isn't suitable for the long WUs and could be more usefully utilised on another project.

The medium WUs are OK by me - Longer than I usually like, but I can live with it at the moment :)

Al.


Eh Matey....Nate said the 373 type length only ...after the 371 & 372 finish their search there should be no more.
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Message 4678 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 18:52:40 UTC - in response to Message 4619.  

Eh Matey....Nate said the 373 type length only ...after the 371 & 372 finish their search there should be no more.


Sadly I'm only getting BFO WUs and Ickle Tiny WUs. My clients don't know what the estimated runtimes are so I end up starving out other projects because a couple of 371s are getting 13 hour estimates :(

I could be mean and keep deleting the BFOs and tiddlers and hope I get the nice comfy 373s, but that doesn't seem right somehow ;)

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Message 4681 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 20:23:54 UTC - in response to Message 4678.  

Eh Matey....Nate said the 373 type length only ...after the 371 & 372 finish their search there should be no more.


Sadly I'm only getting BFO WUs and Ickle Tiny WUs. My clients don't know what the estimated runtimes are so I end up starving out other projects because a couple of 371s are getting 13 hour estimates :(

I could be mean and keep deleting the BFOs and tiddlers and hope I get the nice comfy 373s, but that doesn't seem right somehow ;)

Al.


LOL... as well as just extend the time before we finally get rid of all this 'experimental' work and set up more new comfy medium size searches.

I guess the bottom line is we all have to grit our teeth and chew through this current 'fluff'. ;-)

FWIW, I seem to be drawing mostly Par 5's too right now (Par 6's if you talking to my G3). :-)

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