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Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
I just wish I had the smarts, energy and time to do what Crunch3r does. But I don't No you don't do you Kevint, you just use other easier methods to gain an advantage at Projects where you can which I've proven a few times already. Like i told you once before at another Project, you shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house ... :) and you did call him a cheat... no use in denying that I don't recall denying it in any Post ??? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 22 Nov 07 Posts: 285 Credit: 1,076,786,368 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
All you ranters about credit. Crunch3r has released his first optimized app to the general public here http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=307 He did not need to do so then but did anyway. I guess I will need to go and download it and start use it. |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
LOL ... Your about a day late and a dollar short there Kevint, those app's were released close to 3 months ago ... |
Send message Joined: 7 Jun 08 Posts: 464 Credit: 56,639,936 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
With all due respect:
Please don't just partially quote me if you are then going use it out of context. I never said Crunch3r was cheating; I said he knows he is working the system just like anybody else has the full right to do as well. The matter of whether he has earned anything or not has absolutely no bearing on my restatement of the issue as one of fairness in the general BOINC context, regardless of whether the topic has been discussed until the cows come home or not. Regards, Alinator |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 163 Credit: 3,876,869 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Well... In the little time what I was in this project, I think what all of you don't remember Copernico or Galileo... Are you the 'Inquisición'? Must Copernico or Galileo say that the Earth is center of the universe and the Sun is orbitting arround the Earth? You will get a genius and throw him to hogere? Simple minds... [edit] AH! I'm sorry for my bad english...[/edit] Best regards. Logan. ![]() BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 115 Credit: 502,527,662 RAC: 2 ![]() ![]() |
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![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
After reading all the whining and crying here I figure this would be the best thread to bring this up. Last night I had "the dream" about Milla. Woohoo! Much better than a bunch of BOINC credits. Oh yeah, she had the nerve to say I got her pregnant. Hopefully that's nothing that an optimized Milkyway app can't handle. me@rescam.org |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 08 Posts: 8 Credit: 133,655,357 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
zeitgeistmovie.com wrote: As has been posted many times. The source is open and available to everyone. Yes, it has been posted many times that source is open and available to everyone. But I have never actually seen any location of the source code. UncleVom was asking for the location of source code here as well, but there was no reply to him. I was looking for source myself very hard, but it must be very well hidden, as I did not find it... So is the source really open and available to everyone? Or is it just common false belief? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 363 Credit: 258,227,990 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
zeitgeistmovie.com wrote:As has been posted many times. The source is open and available to everyone. obviously not hard enough as it's being "hidden" in plain sight .... http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~deselt/ ![]() Join Support science! Joinc Team BOINC United now! |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 22 Mar 08 Posts: 65 Credit: 15,715,071 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Bad form Poor! If you have an issue, it should have been taken up privately. Personally, I can't see how this could possibly not be a good thing. How is increasing a system's efficency detrimental? I fear that this may be simply a misunderstanding of exactly what is occuring. Would it be better to use more electricity/resources to accomplish the same work? Another way to look at it: I have some skill for building engines that are very efficent provinding sigificant horsepower gains. So if I use these skills to propel my car down the track faster than a similar spec but not as efficent motor; am I then cheating? Gawd, imagine a world without progress of any kind. How sad would that be? Peace! ![]() |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Bad form Poor! Yes, I probably could have handled it differently, but I did try the Private route to find out what was going on (Not with Crunch3r but through other sources) & it was going no where fast or at least I wasn't privy to the fact it was anyway so I guess out of Frustration I opened it up with this Thread. Not all is as it seems sometimes though, right now I'm being cast as the Bad Guy & Crunch3r is the Good Guy & I'm willing to accept that role for now for the sake of keeping things fairly civil in the Thread up till now. |
Send message Joined: 18 Nov 07 Posts: 280 Credit: 2,442,757 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Sorry it's taking some time but i'm working out a fix for this. Basically i have to fiddle around with the validator to make sure these things aren't happening. Sorry we can't give you an immediate fix but needless to say i'm aware of it and working on a solution. Your post confuses me; could you tell us what exactly the problem is? Is it just a matter of private but submitted optimisations as Crunch3r claims or is there something else going on? (why would it involve the validator?) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 163 Credit: 3,876,869 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Sorry it's taking some time but i'm working out a fix for this. Basically i have to fiddle around with the validator to make sure these things aren't happening. Sorry we can't give you an immediate fix but needless to say i'm aware of it and working on a solution. Could be the thing 'the same work, the same credits, but in a little time'? It's only that, I think... ;) Best regards. Logan. ![]() BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
I have to say I wouldn't mind being able to run the faster code. But I know that it was developed on his own time and up to him if he wants to release it. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
Send message Joined: 13 Jul 08 Posts: 8 Credit: 133,655,357 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Crunch3r wrote: obviously not hard enough as it's being "hidden" in plain sight .... Wow! It is available, but I would say it is well-hidden under camouflage net... Now tell me the secret, how did you find it? Did you browse paper (the last one on project home page, but some other were also published in news section) and just sniffed in the parent directory? BTW, the directory doesn't look like SCM. Is it really official stuff? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 363 Credit: 258,227,990 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Crunch3r wrote:obviously not hard enough as it's being "hidden" in plain sight .... The secret is called "asking for it"... but don't tell anyone ;)
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![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
...in the Thread up till now. Now. Let's see as a well known credit whore you attach this huge farm of yours to Cosmology because they were giving out excessive credits. They lower their granted credits and right around the same time Milkyway starts giving out excessive credits. So you move everything over here. And when Mr. Smarty Pants optimizes the code Grandpa gets upset because some young whipper snapper is kicking his old wrinkly butt in RAC. The hell with my SSI I want to rant about credits! You suck. Sincerely, Someone in the top 1% overall boinc with only an OLD cheesy Prescott and a part-time AMD who doesn't whore for credits. me@rescam.org |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
...in the Thread up till now. Dang, and just when I thought we could be friends again ... Sincerely PS: I suppose this means all the Invites I receive by PM to Join either the BOINC Synergy or SETI.USA Teams have been Voided out too & just when I was going to make a decision between the two ... :) |
![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
...in the Thread up till now. Those were fake. Plus they don't come with free credits. Didn't you notice the little ;) winky at the end? me@rescam.org |
Send message Joined: 29 Aug 07 Posts: 486 Credit: 576,548,171 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
...in the Thread up till now. Okay, since they were fake I'll take BOINC Synergy off my Short List of Teams to join then ... :P |
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