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Message 65734 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 10:57:39 UTC

Hello world,


I know it´s off topic, but because this is the most read thread, I post here:

Did anybody but me recognize that Microsoft installed the former optional "Diagnostic and Telemetry service" on ALL Windows 7-machines with the latest "Quality"-Rollup?


Greetings


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Message 65735 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 11:40:55 UTC - in response to Message 65734.  

Where can i find that?
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Message 65737 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 12:07:09 UTC - in response to Message 65735.  

It is the "Diagnostic Tracking Service" in your services-folder; I don´t know the exact English word for it.

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Message 65738 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 12:42:03 UTC - in response to Message 65735.  

Ich sehe gerade, dass Sie wohl deutschsprachig sind. Klicken Sie auf "Start", geben Sie unten "Dienste" ein und betätigen Sie die Eingabetaste ;)

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Message 65739 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 12:50:01 UTC - in response to Message 65734.  

Hello world,


I know it´s off topic, but because this is the most read thread, I post here:

Did anybody but me recognize that Microsoft installed the former optional "Diagnostic and Telemetry service" on ALL Windows 7-machines with the latest "Quality"-Rollup?


Greetings NN


As I said on one of the other projects you posted this on...this is NOT new!! This was done months ago by MS and is on ALL of their Windows platforms now!! MS does NOT sell individual peoples data they sell things like 5,000 people went to MilkyWay today so MW can then move up or down on the search sites.
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Message 65744 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 15:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 65739.  

My answer in the Collatz-Forum:

I don´t want to be tracked because I don´t want to be tracked.

I allways found what I was searching for.
I´m not interested in helping a shop selling goods I don´t need.
I recommend the Microsoft shareholders to look for a job, if they need more money.

Keep your fingers of my life!

BTW Microsofts description of the "Diagnostic Tracking Service" is:
"The Diagnostics Tracking Service enables data collection about functional issues in Windows components."
This has nothing to do with search site optimization.
And - as long as I have no possibility to control what is sent to MS I will never ask anybody before starting a discussion about it!

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Message 65751 - Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 17:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 65738.  

Ich sehe gerade, dass Sie wohl deutschsprachig sind. Klicken Sie auf "Start", geben Sie unten "Dienste" ein und betätigen Sie die Eingabetaste ;)

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Besten Dank!
Thanks a lot!
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Message 65772 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 11:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 65744.  

My answer in the Collatz-Forum:

I don´t want to be tracked because I don´t want to be tracked.

I allways found what I was searching for.
I´m not interested in helping a shop selling goods I don´t need.
I recommend the Microsoft shareholders to look for a job, if they need more money.

Keep your fingers of my life!

BTW Microsofts description of the "Diagnostic Tracking Service" is:
"The Diagnostics Tracking Service enables data collection about functional issues in Windows components."
This has nothing to do with search site optimization.
And - as long as I have no possibility to control what is sent to MS I will never ask anybody before starting a discussion about it!

NN


There is always Linux!!
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Message 65774 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 14:10:24 UTC - in response to Message 65772.  



There is always Linux!!

I tried it twice.
Was unable (also with help from a forum) to install AMD openCL. It worked easy with nVidia.
I followed a three month discussion @ Einstein. I never had a crunching AMD Linux version.
No, thanks.

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Message 65778 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 16:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 65772.  

My answer in the Collatz-Forum:

I don´t want to be tracked because I don´t want to be tracked.

I allways found what I was searching for.
I´m not interested in helping a shop selling goods I don´t need.
I recommend the Microsoft shareholders to look for a job, if they need more money.

Keep your fingers of my life!

BTW Microsofts description of the "Diagnostic Tracking Service" is:
"The Diagnostics Tracking Service enables data collection about functional issues in Windows components."
This has nothing to do with search site optimization.
And - as long as I have no possibility to control what is sent to MS I will never ask anybody before starting a discussion about it!

NN


There is always Linux!!



I PAID for two spywarefree Windows 7-Licences with MY HARD EARNED MONEY!

Why should I kick them?

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Message 65816 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 1:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 65778.  


I PAID for two spywarefree Windows 7-Licences with MY HARD EARNED MONEY!

Why should I kick them?

NN


Your definition and MS' definition of "spywarefree" aren't the same. I too understand your frustration and violation of principals but I've chalked it up to it's not worth the effort besides....

I have some linux machines and VMs but I still use a windows machine for my daily/typical use. It's my own habits and comfort that keep me subscribed to the MS machine. I don't buy anything but Windows licenses from MS, and when I do I find the best deal.
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Message 65828 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 12:18:07 UTC - in response to Message 65778.  

My answer in the Collatz-Forum:

I don´t want to be tracked because I don´t want to be tracked.

I allways found what I was searching for.
I´m not interested in helping a shop selling goods I don´t need.
I recommend the Microsoft shareholders to look for a job, if they need more money.

Keep your fingers of my life!

BTW Microsofts description of the "Diagnostic Tracking Service" is:
"The Diagnostics Tracking Service enables data collection about functional issues in Windows components."
This has nothing to do with search site optimization.
And - as long as I have no possibility to control what is sent to MS I will never ask anybody before starting a discussion about it!

NN


There is always Linux!!



I PAID for two spywarefree Windows 7-Licences with MY HARD EARNED MONEY!

Why should I kick them?

NN


You KNOW the answer to that!!! By STILL using Windows you have implicitly agreed to abide by their ever changing rules and procedures!! I guess you could always go back and reinstall from your Win7 cd and then refuse any and all updates, but that would leave you wide open to any virus or other bad thing produced since that date, and don't forget all the windows 'bugs' that have been fixed since you first installed.
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Message 65840 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 17:18:38 UTC - in response to Message 65816.  


I PAID for two spywarefree Windows 7-Licences with MY HARD EARNED MONEY!

Why should I kick them?

NN


Your definition and MS' definition of "spywarefree" aren't the same. I too understand your frustration and violation of principals but I've chalked it up to it's not worth the effort besides....

I have some linux machines and VMs but I still use a windows machine for my daily/typical use. It's my own habits and comfort that keep me subscribed to the MS machine. I don't buy anything but Windows licenses from MS, and when I do I find the best deal.



That is the point. I also enjoyed working with Windows for 17(?) years and would like to do so furthermore.
But do I therefore want to give up my privacy?
I don´t know if I should!

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Message 65842 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 17:26:27 UTC - in response to Message 65828.  

The freedom of a man ends where the freedom of another man begins.

I DEFINE the frontiers of MY PRIVACY, NOT a company called MICROSOFT!

That´s my freedom!


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Message 65845 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 20:30:45 UTC
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Windows 7 will be the last Windows OS I use on my PCs. I still enjoy using it for the time being though and don't have any problems with it beyond Microsoft's occasional incompetence.

I've gotten used to Debian/KDE (Linux) on my other computers and in VMs. I'd have already moved over if it weren't for legacy support and Windows 7 working so well for me. I leave my main Windows 7 computer up and running for months at a time sometimes and do things like gaming on it, crunching for BOINC, web surfing, media consumption, server hosting, and some production related things.

My laptop is Debian/KDE only now though. I also game on it with some of my Steam hosted games and Minecraft on occasion. I also enjoy the greater customization and much richer and more capable software packages available to me on this Linux platform, so it isn't surprising that beyond legacy software needs, Windows doesn't have much to offer me that I'm interested in.

In my professional and personal experience, the vast majority of people aren't competent enough to manage and administer their computer systems effectively, regardless of the OS they're using, and they eventually make and let their PCs degrade in security, reliability, and performance to the point where they just end up buying a new system every few years. Microsoft privacy policies are probably the least of their concerns, though I think it is an important issue people should be aware of as well.
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