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Message 71230 - Posted: 9 Oct 2021, 17:30:17 UTC

In the last few days I am getting a lot of Validation Errors. In the past, I would get a few errors once in a while, which I could live with. However, the last few days the error rate has become unacceptable. This large number of errors is wasting a lot of computer power and time. Below is a listing of errors:

Oct. 9 5 errors
Oct. 8 8 errors
Oct. 7 3 errors
Oct. 6 1 error
Oct. 5-3 0 errors
Oct. 2 1 error

You can see the error rate has become unacceptable the last 3 days. Is this a problem with MilkyWay@home or is it an error on my computer? I am running a Dell computer with the latest Windows 10.

Can someone please help me! Thanks.
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Message 71231 - Posted: 9 Oct 2021, 18:12:53 UTC

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Message 71233 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 5:24:20 UTC - in response to Message 71231.  

Reason why: https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=4764


I don't see anything there that fixes the issue!


Message 71223 - Posted: 8 Oct 2021, 8:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 71148.
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@Tom: It seems they still comming...
https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=203048065
Is it possible somehow cancel it on server side?
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Message 71234 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 9:03:18 UTC - in response to Message 71233.  

Hi Brent I share your concerns, I seem to be wasting 15,000 - 18,000 cpu seconds per day on invalid units, usually 3 or 4. I run with Core I7 and up to date W10. I guess at some point I might stop if it persists.
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Message 71235 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 14:36:26 UTC - in response to Message 71234.  

Have processed 33 work Units today. 5 were immediately invalid (15%) wasting a total of 20,000 + CPU seconds.. 6 are still pending validation.

Coupled with yesterdays invalid another 10,000 Cpu seconds.. 35,000 seconds over 2 days wasted.

Looking at the WU results every WU that exceeds its estimated time is very likely to be immediately invalid.

To much time wasted, wont be doing any more .
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Message 71236 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 18:21:06 UTC
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If the xml file for a task has
<number_WUs> 7 </number_WUs>
then it should be aborted, as it will result in a validate error. Apologies that I haven't been able to implement a server-side fix for this yet, I have been (& still am) busy with other projects and travel. If I get some spare time this week I will try to look into it.
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Message 71237 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 18:43:23 UTC - in response to Message 71236.  

Thanks for the update.
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Message 71401 - Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 18:42:52 UTC
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Message 71602 - Posted: 9 Jan 2022, 21:04:16 UTC - in response to Message 71236.  

Is this still an issue? I'm getting a bunch of high CPU seconds invalids. What is/are the XML file names? Boinc_task_state.xml? init_data.xml? Or others? There are 5 of them each with over 5,000 seconds.
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Message 71604 - Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 12:06:31 UTC - in response to Message 71602.  

Is this still an issue? I'm getting a bunch of high CPU seconds invalids. What is/are the XML file names? Boinc_task_state.xml? init_data.xml? Or others? There are 5 of them each with over 5,000 seconds.


Your pc's are hidden so it's hard to tell what's going on
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Message 71606 - Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 16:51:51 UTC - in response to Message 71604.  

hmmmm. Well that's annoying! I have poked around in MW@home and boinc, and it is not readily apparent how to toggle from hidden to viewable. How is that done? There are no available options in the edit profile section.
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Message 71607 - Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 16:56:11 UTC - in response to Message 71606.  

OOPPS!! never mind, I found it. computers should now be visible.
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Message 71620 - Posted: 19 Jan 2022, 17:08:30 UTC

Hi Tom,
Belated New Years Greetings.

The invalids have been quite high for the last 2 weeks.

My invalids are at 2087
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Message 71621 - Posted: 19 Jan 2022, 18:44:07 UTC

Hello,

Belated happy new years to you as well.

I've gone through and purged things so you should notice a lower number of validate errors shortly.
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Message 71646 - Posted: 22 Jan 2022, 15:39:53 UTC - in response to Message 71621.  

Much better Thank you.
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Message 71681 - Posted: 5 Feb 2022, 13:30:44 UTC

Hello Tom

Invalids back up 2020
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Message 71683 - Posted: 5 Feb 2022, 19:47:40 UTC

Yup, I've flushed things. Thanks!
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