I may be jumping to the wrong conclusion but I would say no NBODY Simulations are getting validated. My Validation Inconclusive Q is hundreds long, I am sure many will have thousands. I did a random check on every page of my backlog and they all show my task as inconclusive, a second task has a number but shows as unsent. The NBODY q of simulation tasks is always around 13.8 million yet at any one time over half a million are being processed, surely with that sort of volume it should go down. The number of tasks waiting validation was down to 554 when it last looked so it cant contain any Simulation tasks as that would be a significant number. Have stopped processing them, only doing separation. Separation tasks currently are getting validated within seconds of completion now so that is back to normal.

On a related topic, I would suggest that someone writes a script that checks the number of tasks waiting to go out for each project and turns off the work generator for a project if it exceeds some pre-chosen limit, turning it back on again when the number of tasks falls below a lower limit (chosen to avoid constant stop-start) - that could then be a cron job (or equivalent) running (say) every 15 or 30 minutes. It won't solve the current problem but it would mean a recurrence could be avoided without the need for constant supervision! (I presume there isn't such a capability built into the generators already...)

That should be a main part of the boinc server software. Surely there's a setting to say what size each queue should be? Who writes this crap?

In another post Tom said it was a setting and they are using it now.

BOINC server software has a default size for the feeder buffer. It can be configured larger if necessary if it is getting emptied too fast on every connection. But that swells the database and the database tracking of sent/returned/awaiting validation/deletion transactions take longer times.

So you can't dramatically increase the size of the feeder buffer willy-nilly without slowing down other parts of the server.

It's all a balancing act depending on the hardware and scheduler connections.

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BOINC server software has a default size for the feeder buffer. It can be configured larger if necessary if it is getting emptied too fast on every connection. But that swells the database and the database tracking of sent/returned/awaiting validation/deletion transactions take longer times.

So you can't dramatically increase the size of the feeder buffer willy-nilly without slowing down other parts of the server.

It's all a balancing act depending on the hardware and scheduler connections.

Something bad was happening in MW, since every time there was a problem, instead of the usual 1000/10000 tasks, it jumped to several million of each. Yet another Boinc bug I'd guess.

BOINC server software has a default size for the feeder buffer. It can be configured larger if necessary if it is getting emptied too fast on every connection. But that swells the database and the database tracking of sent/returned/awaiting validation/deletion transactions take longer times.

So you can't dramatically increase the size of the feeder buffer willy-nilly without slowing down other parts of the server.

It's all a balancing act depending on the hardware and scheduler connections.

Something bad was happening in MW, since every time there was a problem, instead of the usual 1000/10000 tasks, it jumped to several million of each. Yet another Boinc bug I'd guess.

project forum.


Peter you continually bash the BOINC software on this forum. The Milkyway project does not write, maintain or modify the basic BOINC software for Clients or Servers. This is all controlled and developed by the BOINC organization out of Berkely Ca.

Here is a URL to their forum I politely suggest that you redirect your BOINC suggestions and criticisms to some where they can be addressed. They serve no purpose here. Create yourself an account and do some studying.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php

Sincerely
Bill F

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Peter you continually bash the BOINC software on this forum. The Milkyway project does not write, maintain or modify the basic BOINC software for Clients or Servers. This is all controlled and developed by the BOINC organization out of Berkely Ca.

I never suggested it was the fault of MW, contrarywise, I'm saying it's someone else's fault and not this project.

Here is a URL to their forum I politely suggest that you redirect your BOINC suggestions and criticisms to some where they can be addressed. They serve no purpose here. Create yourself an account and do some studying.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php

Between my 6 accounts there I've been banned 38 times. I'm even ruder there. Their rubbish programmers can't handle criticism.

Things have been much better over the last couple of days.
Getting plenty of GPU separation work now. :)

Things have been much better over the last couple of days.
Getting plenty of GPU separation work now. :)

Maybe he's overvolting the server? I did that successfully with my electric toothbrush and unsuccessfully with my electric razor.

... and unsuccessfully with my electric razor.

... did you forget to turn it on ?

... and unsuccessfully with my electric razor.

... did you forget to turn it on ?

It damaged the bearings in the motor, it still works but with a terrible whining noise.

... and unsuccessfully with my electric razor.

... did you forget to turn it on ?

It damaged the bearings in the motor, it still works but with a terrible whining noise.

... poor thing ...

same for me, only separation results are validated and the list of "validation inconclusive" it getting longer. And there are only N-Body tasks added to that list during the last two weeks. I only do separation tasks from now on, too.

same for me, only separation results are validated and the list of "validation inconclusive" it getting longer. And there are only N-Body tasks added to that list during the last two weeks. I only do separation tasks from now on, too.

Yesterday I had 5 of 1587 validated Nbody, today I have 354 of 2179. They're going through.

... I only do separation tasks from now on, too.

N-Body is doing fine now.

The idea, at this point of the game, is to try to work through the N-Body queue as fast as possible in order to
get things back to normal.
This has been described and talked about in many previous posts.

As you might have noticed, the number of crunchers doing N-Body tasks has gone up -
from around 100 to now over 2300 active users.
They are all trying to help.

... I only do separation tasks from now on, too.

N-Body is doing fine now.

The idea, at this point of the game, is to try to work through the N-Body queue as fast as possible in order to
get things back to normal.
This has been described and talked about in many previous posts.

As you might have noticed, the number of crunchers doing N-Body tasks has gone up -
from around 100 to now over 2300 active users.
They are all trying to help.

I had over 100 validated this morning.

... same here ...

Queue seems to be going down significantly graphs:


Access to the dashboard is https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=milkyway@home&from=now-72h&to=now&chunkNotFound=&refresh=1m

Regarding your five Radeon R9 280X cards, how do you like them? Sounds like you are pretty well pleased.

Love them. One of them I play games on.

R9 280x is ready to be installed. Two fans say Tri-X on them, third one says TOXIC. Time to bust out the Nitrile gloves! LOL. Peter, (or anybody) do you have a manual for this? Radeon help desk says no specific unit manuals, only generic. I guess my question is, what do the 6 LEDs on the back indicate? Also, what is the lifespan of the thermal paste? Probably should be changed anyway. This thing is a beast. Any specific guidance? The heat sinks and fans look squeaky clean, no dust at all.

OK, cover me! I'm goin' in! LOL

Regarding your five Radeon R9 280X cards, how do you like them? Sounds like you are pretty well pleased.

Love them. One of them I play games on.

R9 280x is ready to be installed. Two fans say Tri-X on them, third one says TOXIC. Time to bust out the Nitrile gloves! LOL. Peter, (or anybody) do you have a manual for this? Radeon help desk says no specific unit manuals, only generic. I guess my question is, what do the 6 LEDs on the back indicate? Also, what is the lifespan of the thermal paste? Probably should be changed anyway. This thing is a beast. Any specific guidance? The heat sinks and fans look squeaky clean, no dust at all.

OK, cover me! I'm goin' in! LOL

The LEDs are temperature I think. I just monitor temperature with MSI Afterburner.

Thermal paste? Forever, I've never replaced it.

https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=milkyway@home&from=now-72h&to=now&chunkNotFound=&refresh=1m

This is awesome. Thanks Kiska.