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Message 72745 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 9:32:31 UTC

Hello,

I have a very old GPU in a Linux System:

OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1) (driver version 22.0.1, device version OpenCL 1.2 Mesa 22.0.1, 1024MB, 1024MB available, 100 GFLOPS peak)


I would like to know if this GPU is compatible with Milkyway@home
The Linux system is:

$ uname -a
Linux boinc 5.17.1-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:55:33 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux


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Message 72746 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 9:43:37 UTC - in response to Message 72745.  

Hello,

I have a very old GPU in a Linux System:

OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1) (driver version 22.0.1, device version OpenCL 1.2 Mesa 22.0.1, 1024MB, 1024MB available, 100 GFLOPS peak)


I would like to know if this GPU is compatible with Milkyway@home
The Linux system is:

$ uname -a
Linux boinc 5.17.1-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:55:33 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux




Go to computing drop down there is a huge list of GPU’s there.
Thank you
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Message 72747 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 9:50:54 UTC - in response to Message 72745.  

The output of clinfo is this:

clinfo
Number of platforms                               3
  Platform Name                                   Clover
  Platform Vendor                                 Mesa
  Platform Version                                OpenCL 1.2 Mesa 22.0.1
  Platform Profile                                FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Extensions                             cl_khr_icd
  Platform Extensions function suffix             MESA

  Platform Name                                   Portable Computing Language
  Platform Vendor                                 The pocl project
  Platform Version                                OpenCL 2.0 pocl 1.8  Linux, Release, RELOC, LLVM 13.0.0, SLEEF, DISTRO, POCL_DEBUG
  Platform Profile                                FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Extensions                             cl_khr_icd cl_pocl_content_size
  Platform Extensions function suffix             POCL

  Platform Name                                   AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
  Platform Vendor                                 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
  Platform Version                                OpenCL 2.1 AMD-APP (3423.0)
  Platform Profile                                FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Extensions                             cl_khr_icd cl_amd_event_callback 
  Platform Extensions function suffix             AMD
  Platform Host timer resolution                  1ns

  Platform Name                                   Clover
Number of devices                                 1
  Device Name                                     AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1)
  Device Vendor                                   AMD
  Device Vendor ID                                0x1002
  Device Version                                  OpenCL 1.2 Mesa 22.0.1
  Device Numeric Version                          0x402000 (1.2.0)
  Driver Version                                  22.0.1
  Device OpenCL C Version                         OpenCL C 1.2 
  Device Type                                     GPU
  Device Profile                                  FULL_PROFILE
  Device Available                                Yes
  Compiler Available                              Yes
  Linker Available                                Yes
  Max compute units                               2
  Max clock frequency                             625MHz
  Device Partition                                (core)
    Max number of sub-devices                     0
    Supported partition types                     None
    Supported affinity domains                    (n/a)
  Max work item dimensions                        3
  Max work item sizes                             256x256x256
  Max work group size                             256
'+16-bit-insts' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+auto-waitcnt-before-barrier' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+cumode' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dot3-insts' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dot6-insts' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dpp' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dpp8' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+16-bit-insts' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+auto-waitcnt-before-barrier' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+cumode' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dot3-insts' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dot6-insts' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dpp' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
'+dpp8' is not a recognized feature for this target (ignoring feature)
  Preferred work group size multiple (kernel)     64
  Preferred / native vector sizes                 
    char                                                16 / 16      
    short                                                8 / 8       
    int                                                  4 / 4       
    long                                                 2 / 2       
    half                                                 0 / 0        (n/a)
    float                                                4 / 4       
    double                                               0 / 0        (n/a)
  Half-precision Floating-point support           (n/a)
  Single-precision Floating-point support         (core)
    Denormals                                     No
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 No
    Round to infinity                             No
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               No
    Support is emulated in software               No
    Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations  No
  Double-precision Floating-point support         (n/a)
  Address bits                                    32, Little-Endian
  Global memory size                              1073741824 (1024MiB)
  Error Correction support                        No
  Max memory allocation                           751619276 (716.8MiB)
  Unified memory for Host and Device              No
  Minimum alignment for any data type             128 bytes
  Alignment of base address                       32768 bits (4096 bytes)
  Global Memory cache type                        None
  Image support                                   No
  Local memory type                               Local
  Local memory size                               32768 (32KiB)
  Max number of constant args                     15
  Max constant buffer size                        751619276 (716.8MiB)
  Max size of kernel argument                     1024
  Queue properties                                
    Out-of-order execution                        No
    Profiling                                     Yes
  Prefer user sync for interop                    Yes
  Profiling timer resolution                      0ns
  Execution capabilities                          
    Run OpenCL kernels                            Yes
    Run native kernels                            No
    ILs with version                              (n/a)
  printf() buffer size                            1048576 (1024KiB)
  Built-in kernels                                (n/a)
  Built-in kernels with version                   (n/a)
  Device Extensions                               cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_extended_versioning
  Device Extensions with Version                  cl_khr_byte_addressable_store                                    0x400000 (1.0.0)
                                                  cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics                                 0x400000 (1.0.0)
                                                  cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics                             0x400000 (1.0.0)
                                                  cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics                                  0x400000 (1.0.0)
                                                  cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics                              0x400000 (1.0.0)
                                                  cl_khr_extended_versioning                                       0x400000 (1.0.0)

  Platform Name                                   Portable Computing Language
Number of devices                                 1
  Device Name                                     pthread-Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4600  @ 2.40GHz
  Device Vendor                                   GenuineIntel
  Device Vendor ID                                0x8086
  Device Version                                  OpenCL 1.2 pocl HSTR: pthread-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-core2
  Driver Version                                  1.8
  Device OpenCL C Version                         OpenCL C 1.2 pocl
  Device Type                                     CPU
  Device Profile                                  FULL_PROFILE
  Device Available                                Yes
  Compiler Available                              Yes
  Linker Available                                Yes
  Max compute units                               2
  Max clock frequency                             2400MHz
  Device Partition                                (core)
    Max number of sub-devices                     2
    Supported partition types                     equally, by counts
    Supported affinity domains                    (n/a)
  Max work item dimensions                        3
  Max work item sizes                             4096x4096x4096
  Max work group size                             4096
  Preferred work group size multiple (kernel)     8
  Preferred / native vector sizes                 
    char                                                16 / 16      
    short                                                8 / 8       
    int                                                  4 / 4       
    long                                                 2 / 2       
    half                                                 0 / 0        (n/a)
    float                                                4 / 4       
    double                                               2 / 2        (cl_khr_fp64)
  Half-precision Floating-point support           (n/a)
  Single-precision Floating-point support         (core)
    Denormals                                     Yes
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 Yes
    Round to infinity                             Yes
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               No
    Support is emulated in software               No
    Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations  Yes
  Double-precision Floating-point support         (cl_khr_fp64)
    Denormals                                     Yes
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 Yes
    Round to infinity                             Yes
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               Yes
    Support is emulated in software               No
  Address bits                                    64, Little-Endian
  Global memory size                              6187347968 (5.762GiB)
  Error Correction support                        No
  Max memory allocation                           2147483648 (2GiB)
  Unified memory for Host and Device              Yes
  Minimum alignment for any data type             128 bytes
  Alignment of base address                       1024 bits (128 bytes)
  Global Memory cache type                        Read/Write
  Global Memory cache size                        2097152 (2MiB)
  Global Memory cache line size                   64 bytes
  Image support                                   Yes
    Max number of samplers per kernel             16
    Max size for 1D images from buffer            134217728 pixels
    Max 1D or 2D image array size                 2048 images
    Max 2D image size                             8192x8192 pixels
    Max 3D image size                             2048x2048x2048 pixels
    Max number of read image args                 128
    Max number of write image args                128
  Local memory type                               Global
  Local memory size                               32768 (32KiB)
  Max number of constant args                     8
  Max constant buffer size                        32768 (32KiB)
  Max size of kernel argument                     1024
  Queue properties                                
    Out-of-order execution                        Yes
    Profiling                                     Yes
  Prefer user sync for interop                    Yes
  Profiling timer resolution                      1ns
  Execution capabilities                          
    Run OpenCL kernels                            Yes
    Run native kernels                            Yes
  printf() buffer size                            16777216 (16MiB)
  Built-in kernels                                (n/a)
  Device Extensions                               cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_3d_image_writes cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_int64_base_atomics cl_khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_fp64


  Platform Name                                   AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
Number of devices                                 0

NULL platform behavior
  clGetPlatformInfo(NULL, CL_PLATFORM_NAME, ...)  Clover
  clGetDeviceIDs(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL, ...)   Success [MESA]
  clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [default]            Success [MESA]
  clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [other]              Success [POCL]
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_DEFAULT)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1)
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1)
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ACCELERATOR)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1)

ICD loader properties
  ICD loader Name                                 OpenCL ICD Loader
  ICD loader Vendor                               OCL Icd free software
  ICD loader Version                              2.3.1
  ICD loader Profile                              OpenCL 3.0
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Message 72748 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 9:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 72746.  
Last modified: 13 Apr 2022, 9:55:43 UTC

So, only these GPU are compatible:


    (1.000) AMD Radeon FirePro W8100
    (0.852) Radeon RX 580 Series
    (0.770) Radeon RX 570 Series
    (0.549) AMD Radeon FirePro W9100
    (0.405) AMD Radeon R9 200 Series 


Go to computing drop down there is a huge list of GPU’s there.
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Message 72756 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 11:01:06 UTC - in response to Message 72748.  

So, only these GPU are compatible:


    (1.000) AMD Radeon FirePro W8100
    (0.852) Radeon RX 580 Series
    (0.770) Radeon RX 570 Series
    (0.549) AMD Radeon FirePro W9100
    (0.405) AMD Radeon R9 200 Series 


Go to computing drop down there is a huge list of GPU’s there.

Thank you


NO that is NOT the full list of compatible gpu's, the key is the OpenCL version of your card and the version of the software you run for the gpu, too old of a version of drivers and it won't work either. Assuming you have loaded somewhere near the latest gpu drivers for your card the next thing is to make sure Boinc sees it, then to try and get gpu tasks. Remember to check the box to get gpu tasks here at MilkyWay, you have to do that at every project you want gpu tasks from as well.If you then do not get tasks there should be a reason why listed in the Boinc Manager under Tools, Event Log.
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Message 72757 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 11:05:10 UTC - in response to Message 72756.  

So, only these GPU are compatible:


    (1.000) AMD Radeon FirePro W8100
    (0.852) Radeon RX 580 Series
    (0.770) Radeon RX 570 Series
    (0.549) AMD Radeon FirePro W9100
    (0.405) AMD Radeon R9 200 Series 


Go to computing drop down there is a huge list of GPU’s there.

Thank you


NO that is NOT the full list of compatible gpu's, the key is the OpenCL version of your card and the version of the software you run for the gpu, too old of a version of drivers and it won't work either. Assuming you have loaded somewhere near the latest gpu drivers for your card the next thing is to make sure Boinc sees it, then to try and get gpu tasks. Remember to check the box to get gpu tasks here at MilkyWay, you have to do that at every project you want gpu tasks from as well.If you then do not get tasks there should be a reason why listed in the Boinc Manager under Tools, Event Log.

One thing I do see in your log is that the gpu only has 712MB of ram onboard, the Project may have a lower limit of 1GB, but as I said try getting some tasks and see what the log says.
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Message 72758 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 14:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 72757.  
Last modified: 13 Apr 2022, 14:48:49 UTC

Hello,

Thank you for your answers

I have activated all computing flags here in the project: CPU, ATI GPU and NVIDIA GPU



The driver is Gallium 3D Clover Mesa driver, latests version: 22.0.1

I did:

gpasswd -a boinc video


so boinc can see the GPU

In the Event Log, at the beginning i have:

mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:42 |  | [coproc] launching child process at /usr/bin/boinc
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:42 |  | [coproc] with data directory /var/lib/boinc
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1) (driver version 22.0.1, device version OpenCL 1.2 Mesa 22.0.1, 1024MB, 1024MB available, 100 GFLOPS peak)
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | OpenCL CPU: pthread-Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4600  @ 2.40GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: The pocl project, driver version 1.8, device version OpenCL 1.2 pocl HSTR: pthread-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-core2)
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | [coproc] NVIDIA: libcuda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | [coproc] ATI: libaticalrt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:40:21 | Milkyway@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:40:21 | Milkyway@Home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:40:23 | Milkyway@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks



But i don't receive any GPU tasks

Can I activate a debug log for the Milkyway@Home client?
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Message 72774 - Posted: 14 Apr 2022, 6:54:22 UTC - in response to Message 72758.  

Is there a minimum requirement list that the GPU must respect to have a wortk unit?

For example:

    1 GiB RAM


    double precision support

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Message 72777 - Posted: 14 Apr 2022, 11:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 72758.  
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Hello,

Thank you for your answers

I have activated all computing flags here in the project: CPU, ATI GPU and NVIDIA GPU



The driver is Gallium 3D Clover Mesa driver, latests version: 22.0.1

I did:

gpasswd -a boinc video


so boinc can see the GPU

In the Event Log, at the beginning i have:

mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:42 |  | [coproc] launching child process at /usr/bin/boinc
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:42 |  | [coproc] with data directory /var/lib/boinc
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.17.1-arch1-1, LLVM 13.0.1) (driver version 22.0.1, device version OpenCL 1.2 Mesa 22.0.1, 1024MB, 1024MB available, 100 GFLOPS peak)
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | OpenCL CPU: pthread-Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4600  @ 2.40GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: The pocl project, driver version 1.8, device version OpenCL 1.2 pocl HSTR: pthread-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-core2)
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | [coproc] NVIDIA: libcuda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 |  | [coproc] ATI: libaticalrt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:40:21 | Milkyway@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:40:21 | Milkyway@Home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
mer 13 apr 2022, 08:40:23 | Milkyway@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks



But i don't receive any GPU tasks

Can I activate a debug log for the Milkyway@Home client?


I think the answer is in the following lines:

mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 | | [coproc] NVIDIA: libcuda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

mer 13 apr 2022, 08:38:43 | | [coproc] ATI: libaticalrt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

If those libraries aren't there it won't crunch. One thing you might try is asking about the drivers etc in the Unix/Linus Forum, they should be able to help with getting all the right libraries and drivers for that card and making them work as well.

And yes if you open the Boinc Manager and go to Options, Event Log Options you will see a whole list of boxes you can check to see what is going on as Boinc does it's thing.
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Message 72778 - Posted: 14 Apr 2022, 11:59:51 UTC - in response to Message 72777.  
Last modified: 14 Apr 2022, 12:10:42 UTC

Hello,

Thank you for you time

libaticalrt.so
is the old ATI driver before OpenCL support.
From this forum:


BOINC does GPU detection by trying to load various libraries and seeing what they report. libaticalrt.so is the library needed for CAL / Brook+ GPU applications.
CAL is what ATI (and later AMD) offered for GPGPU applications before they switched to OpenCL. CAL has been available only on ATI GPUs. And since some time ago AMD dropped support for CAL in hardware and drivers.


E message from user @Juha.

I have enabled these check box:



Now i see in the Event Log these messages:
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | choose_project(): 1649938185.487796
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] ------- start work fetch state -------
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] target work buffer: 172800.00 + 43200.00 sec
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] --- project states ---
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 | Milkyway@Home | [work_fetch] REC 292.425 prio -1.134 can request work
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] --- state for CPU ---
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00 saturated 328431.41 busy 0.00
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 | Milkyway@Home | [work_fetch] share 1.000
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] --- state for AMD/ATI GPU ---
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] shortfall 216000.00 nidle 1.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 | Milkyway@Home | [work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off  (resource backoff: 27746.71, inc 19200.00)
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] ------- end work fetch state -------
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 | Milkyway@Home | choose_project: scanning
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 | Milkyway@Home | can fetch CPU
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 | Milkyway@Home | can't fetch AMD/ATI GPU: project is backed off
gio 14 apr 2022, 14:09:45 |  | [work_fetch] No project chosen for work fetch



But i don't understand the meaning
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Message 72785 - Posted: 14 Apr 2022, 14:57:48 UTC - in response to Message 72778.  
Last modified: 14 Apr 2022, 15:04:11 UTC

I don't found anything about this phrase in the log:

can't fetch AMD/ATI GPU: project is backed off

[work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off  (resource backoff: 17742.15, inc 19200.00)



What is its meaning?
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Message 72809 - Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 5:16:21 UTC

Standard BOINC mechanism for an unsuccessful work request. Starts at hour of backoff and increases on every unsuccessful work request till landing on 24 hour backoff.

So your host will only attempt to contact the project every day.

The mechanism prevents unnecessary spamming of projects by improperly configured hosts.

As mentioned previously, your drivers are not supported. ATI CAL drivers no longer supported. You need current ATI drivers that support OpenCL 1.2.
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