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Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
I hope you can get back up really soon again!! Ah but it limits my ability to use the shotgun approach to gpu crunching, ie one ot two gpu's on each project, I HATE app_config files with exclude gpu x from this or that project. YES I do admit it is limiting when things like the Pentathlon come along and I have to connect a monitor and mouse cable to each pc as I make adjustments to them. YES I know I can do it thru VNC but it's not working after sitting for a year so I guess I have to update that software too. After the Pentathlon I will have some breathing time, and my 3880X based pc home and be able to set up my pc room like I want it to be instead of hap haphazardly but working like it is right now. I also have cat6 cable to replace all the cat5 cables I'm using right now and a cat8 cable to connect the hub to the wall. |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
'I'm not dicking with that crap code for days trying to make it work. I've already been down that road. I will not spend another minute of my time on BOINC.'ROTFPMSL! You can still add the Boinc Linux repository manually if you want too: ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc or thru the command line: add-apt-repository ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
Ah but it limits my ability to use the shotgun approach to gpu crunching, ie one ot two gpu's on each project, I HATE app_config files with exclude gpu x from this or that project. YES I do admit it is limiting when things like the Pentathlon come along and I have to connect a monitor and mouse cable to each pc as I make adjustments to them. YES I know I can do it thru VNC but it's not working after sitting for a year so I guess I have to update that software too. After the Pentathlon I will have some breathing time, and my 3880X based pc home and be able to set up my pc room like I want it to be instead of hap haphazardly but working like it is right now. I also have cat6 cable to replace all the cat5 cables I'm using right now and a cat8 cable to connect the hub to the wall.Boinc should allow you to control which GPU does which thing without using text files. Configuration by text was what we did back in the days of DOS and Windows 3. I use Remote Utilities, it's free and I never have a problem with it. I can't use the built in Microsoft one as it stops the GPU crunching! How did they manage to screw that up? Why use cat 6? I just bought a 20m cat 8 cable for about a dollar a metre. It's rated at 40 Gbit! Futureproof and less prone to any interference. |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
You can still add the Boinc Linux repository manually if you want too: ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boincOr in Windows just install it. |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
Ah but it limits my ability to use the shotgun approach to gpu crunching, ie one ot two gpu's on each project, I HATE app_config files with exclude gpu x from this or that project. YES I do admit it is limiting when things like the Pentathlon come along and I have to connect a monitor and mouse cable to each pc as I make adjustments to them. YES I know I can do it thru VNC but it's not working after sitting for a year so I guess I have to update that software too. After the Pentathlon I will have some breathing time, and my 3880X based pc home and be able to set up my pc room like I want it to be instead of hap haphazardly but working like it is right now. I also have cat6 cable to replace all the cat5 cables I'm using right now and a cat8 cable to connect the hub to the wall.Boinc should allow you to control which GPU does which thing without using text files. Configuration by text was what we did back in the days of DOS and Windows 3. They learned to code from Microsoft back in the DOS and very early Windows days, yes they have brought some things forward but I think the stuff you are talking about was supposed to be in the upgrade that's now 'on hold'. Why use cat 6? I just bought a 20m cat 8 cable for about a dollar a metre. It's rated at 40 Gbit! Futureproof and less prone to any interference. Because I bought it cheap at an estate auction and I have a whole box full of cables, yes I too can get the cat8 cables cheaply but even my isp doesn't provide me speeds that can use that as I'm not paying them over $1k a month JUST for 1gb internet. I pay enough to get 500mb internet and cable tv as it is. An no I can't go streaming because my wife has her shows that are only on cable tv. |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
You can still add the Boinc Linux repository manually if you want too: ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc Oh that doesn't install the latest version of Boinc that just lets it show up in the search box when you look for new and updated apps. |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
Because I bought it cheap at an estate auction and I have a whole box full of cables, yes I too can get the cat8 cables cheaply but even my isp doesn't provide me speeds that can use that as I'm not paying them over $1k a month JUST for 1gb internet. I pay enough to get 500mb internet and cable tv as it is. An no I can't go streaming because my wife has her shows that are only on cable tv.I like the fast cable between my own machines for installing software etc. |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
Ugh, that horrid repository crap is what you get on phones. I just want to go to the Boinc site and download it.You can still add the Boinc Linux repository manually if you want too: ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
You can still add the Boinc Linux repository manually if you want too: ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc You can do that too, it just means command line stuff and I'm too old to remember all the syntax's anymore so have everything written down on how to do it, now finding it is the problem. |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
Can you see why I prefer Windows? Click link on Boinc site, it downloads. Click on it in downloaded list in browser, it installs. That's two clicks. No command line, no changing settings, no permissions, just do it. Linux hasn't got any better in the last 20 years. It's a badly written piece of rubbish by a programmer in someone's shed, much like Boinc.Ugh, that horrid repository crap is what you get on phones. I just want to go to the Boinc site and download it.You can do that too, it just means command line stuff and I'm too old to remember all the syntax's anymore so have everything written down on how to do it, now finding it is the problem. |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
Oh no not again..... Seperation for GPU: 1st request: 0 tasks 2nd request: 0 tasks 3rd request: 0 tasks 4th request: 26 tasks I usually get 900 on that machine. We're clearing the Nbodys well, I think I'll get more cores on there in the hope the server will be happier. |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 21 Posts: 236 Credit: 575,038,236 RAC: 0 |
Oh no not again.....Seeing the exact same thing here, except I usually get about 360 on this machine. What in the world is going on, on the server side??? |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
Oh no not again..... I think you should bring every single one of your cpu cores here RIGHT NOW to help clear them out!! |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
Ugh, that horrid repository crap is what you get on phones. I just want to go to the Boinc site and download it.You can do that too, it just means command line stuff and I'm too old to remember all the syntax's anymore so have everything written down on how to do it, now finding it is the problem. yep me too but some machines just won't handle it so I do what I have to do to get them crunching |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
I think you should bring every single one of your cpu cores here RIGHT NOW to help clear them out!!I'd love to but the big CPUs have got GPUs running Separation. If I try to get Nbody for those CPUs, the server gives me CPU seperations! Which are tremendously slow compared to GPUs and utterly pointless. I really don't understand why we don't have more options in the server preferences. Einstein manages. Something is making the whole server sluggish, it's taking forever just to post this message, not sure what's changed. Although I do notice the number of seperations waiting to go out is 30000 instead of the usual 10000. Don't tell me we're going to get a huge mass of those to clear too (although that should be easier as we can do them on GPUs). |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
yep me too but some machines just won't handle it so I do what I have to do to get them crunchingYou have machines that won't handle windows? WTF? |
Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 0 |
Seeing the exact same thing here, except I usually get about 360 on this machine.With regards to your 360, you are allowed 300 per GPU, or 900 per computer. If you're not hitting those limits, try increasing the buffer size (it doesn't seem to work it out right so you might need more buffer than should be necessary). Don't bother trying now as you're currently limited by the slow server. |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
yep me too but some machines just won't handle it so I do what I have to do to get them crunching Yup too old or too non standard or just too ornery or I got tired of babysitting them |
Send message Joined: 8 May 09 Posts: 3339 Credit: 524,010,781 RAC: 1 |
I think you should bring every single one of your cpu cores here RIGHT NOW to help clear them out!!I'd love to but the big CPUs have got GPUs running Separation. If I try to get Nbody for those CPUs, the server gives me CPU seperations! Which are tremendously slow compared to GPUs and utterly pointless. I really don't understand why we don't have more options in the server preferences. Einstein manages. Just keep aborting the Separation units, that's probably why people are on the 4th go round with them Oh and yes it's really easy to add choices to the Server code, you just have to know how |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 21 Posts: 236 Credit: 575,038,236 RAC: 0 |
OK will try that.Seeing the exact same thing here, except I usually get about 360 on this machine.With regards to your 360, you are allowed 300 per GPU, or 900 per computer. If you're not hitting those limits, try increasing the buffer size (it doesn't seem to work it out right so you might need more buffer than should be necessary). Don't bother trying now as you're currently limited by the slow server. |
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