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Message 75045 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 21:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 75043.  
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https://www.teamanandtech.org/images/boinc/MW_GRAPH.jpg

Seems the SSL cert is broken. Click link to see the chart until I can get the cert fixed.


just made it clickable for you
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Message 75046 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 22:23:49 UTC

Thank you. Was on my phone, didn't notice it wasn't clickable after I posted.
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Message 75047 - Posted: 10 Feb 2023, 10:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 75046.  

Thank you. Was on my phone, didn't notice it wasn't clickable after I posted.


happy yo help, the graph is cool
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Message 75048 - Posted: 10 Feb 2023, 15:25:10 UTC
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Something that has always bothered me was the lack of support for CUDA in this project. If you look back at the 2008 "Application Code Discussions" you will find that a developer, Travis, was working on a CUDA implementation. I assume that OpenCL worked better for this project than CUDA and/or Travis left. Unless I am mistaken l remember that "Travis" was also developing CUDA code for, or contributing code, to other projects.
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Message 75049 - Posted: 11 Feb 2023, 17:04:24 UTC - in response to Message 75048.  

*Petri batsignal shines in the distance*

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Message 75052 - Posted: 12 Feb 2023, 11:29:05 UTC - in response to Message 75049.  

*Petri batsignal shines in the distance*


LOL
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Message 75057 - Posted: 16 Feb 2023, 3:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 75049.  

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Sure, as long as it isn't Linux only like the Einstein optimized one :)
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Message 75058 - Posted: 16 Feb 2023, 13:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 75057.  

It is. *ahem* will be.

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Message 75059 - Posted: 16 Feb 2023, 18:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 75058.  
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It is. *ahem* will be.



I assume Linux + CUDA which means only Nvidia cards can use the "mod".

Currently, I cannot run any of my (older) hi performance AMD cards under Ubuntu 20.04.5. Every month or two I take another stab at getting them to work.
Under 18.04 my S9xx0 and HD-79xx cards worked fine but not since a disk crash and upgrade to 20.04.5

Advice from AMD forum was not helpful: use the exact release listed and no other.

The release, dated 2021 Q2, is for Ubuntu 20.04.2
https://www.amd.com/en/support/professional-graphics/firepro/firepro-s-series/firepro-s9000

The instructions come with a warning that if one upgrades to kernel 4.15 then the driver from the year 2018 needs to be used instead of the 2021 drivers. This does not make a lot of sense considering that the 20.04.5 kernel is way past 4.15


OS: Linux Ubuntu: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS [5.4.0-139-generic|libc 2.31]	


If I follow AMD's exact installation instructions for the Firepro s9000 card, only my RX-570 card works. I discovered this by plugging in the RX-570, powering the system back on, and doing nothing else. The 570 is significantly slower than the s9000 or s9050 cards.

OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Radeon RX 570 Series (driver version 3224.4, device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (3224.4), 4082MB, 4082MB available, 5095 GFLOPS peak)	
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Message 75084 - Posted: 26 Feb 2023, 18:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 75059.  
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It is. *ahem* will be.



I assume Linux + CUDA which means only Nvidia cards can use the "mod".

Currently, I cannot run any of my (older) hi performance AMD cards under Ubuntu 20.04.5. Every month or two I take another stab at getting them to work.
Under 18.04 my S9xx0 and HD-79xx cards worked fine but not since a disk crash and upgrade to 20.04.5

Advice from AMD forum was not helpful: use the exact release listed and no other.

The release, dated 2021 Q2, is for Ubuntu 20.04.2
https://www.amd.com/en/support/professional-graphics/firepro/firepro-s-series/firepro-s9000

The instructions come with a warning that if one upgrades to kernel 4.15 then the driver from the year 2018 needs to be used instead of the 2021 drivers. This does not make a lot of sense considering that the 20.04.5 kernel is way past 4.15


OS: Linux Ubuntu: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS [5.4.0-139-generic|libc 2.31]	


If I follow AMD's exact installation instructions for the Firepro s9000 card, only my RX-570 card works. I discovered this by plugging in the RX-570, powering the system back on, and doing nothing else. The 570 is significantly slower than the s9000 or s9050 cards.

OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Radeon RX 570 Series (driver version 3224.4, device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (3224.4), 4082MB, 4082MB available, 5095 GFLOPS peak)	


The only, quasi-stable, config I have been able to do for linux for firepros (and Bristol Ridge R7):

Ubuntu 20.04 (either .1 or .2 (I think).
Install and pull the internet during installation as even if you say don't upgrade: it will helpfully update you to kernel 5.15.XX which I haven't been able to get amdgpu to work on. period.
Uninstall snap. Disable unattended upgrades. Turn off crash reporting.
Never allow upgrading to go above kernel 5.4.0.XXX otherwise amdgpu 20.50 will break, at least in my experience.


I use amdgpu v20.50. Nothing else works. I only install --opencl=legacy. I don't bother with vega or later if the firepro is on the system.
Since I have dedicated crunchers, I will ssh into them as amdgpu tends to make video broken, but the firepro is seen and works. boinctui makes life bearable via cmdline.

Hope this helps.
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Message 75085 - Posted: 27 Feb 2023, 2:44:54 UTC - in response to Message 75084.  



The only, quasi-stable, config I have been able to do for linux for firepros (and Bristol Ridge R7):

Ubuntu 20.04 (either .1 or .2 (I think).
Install and pull the internet during installation as even if you say don't upgrade: it will helpfully update you to kernel 5.15.XX which I haven't been able to get amdgpu to work on. period.
Uninstall snap. Disable unattended upgrades. Turn off crash reporting.
Never allow upgrading to go above kernel 5.4.0.XXX otherwise amdgpu 20.50 will break, at least in my experience.


I use amdgpu v20.50. Nothing else works. I only install --opencl=legacy. I don't bother with vega or later if the firepro is on the system.
Since I have dedicated crunchers, I will ssh into them as amdgpu tends to make video broken, but the firepro is seen and works. boinctui makes life bearable via cmdline.

Hope this helps.


Thanks, I will try it. I spent 1/2 day with a clean install of 20.04.2 but it had kernel 5.15
Currently I have 5.4.0-139-generic
and will try 20.50 but am not holding my breath.
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Message 75109 - Posted: 5 Mar 2023, 18:27:31 UTC

My RTX A2000 is about 220sec/task

for 300 euros 2nd hand and <60W it's decent I guess ?
https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=976981
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Message 75110 - Posted: 5 Mar 2023, 20:53:50 UTC - in response to Message 75109.  

My RTX A2000 is about 220sec/task

for 300 euros 2nd hand and <60W it's decent I guess ?
https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_host_detail.php?hostid=976981


Is that just one task at a time?
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Message 75111 - Posted: 5 Mar 2023, 21:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 75109.  

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=4982

Sure? I think there could be less seconds...
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Message 75112 - Posted: 6 Mar 2023, 7:10:11 UTC - in response to Message 75110.  

Is that just one task at a time?

yes, MSI adfterburner shows usage around 80%, so I don't think there's much point fighting for 20% :D
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Message 75113 - Posted: 6 Mar 2023, 11:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 75112.  
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MSI adfterburner shows usage around 80%, so I don't think there's much point fighting for 20% :D

That would make out of the 16.5k RAC for that machine nearly 20k, maybe even more as it would eliminate all the small breaks between WUs (note that every MW WU consists out of 5 small WUs, hence "bundle5", every 20% there's a short break in GPU crunching while the next sub-WU loads). Definitely worth trying I'd say.
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Message 75114 - Posted: 6 Mar 2023, 11:24:30 UTC - in response to Message 75113.  

MSI adfterburner shows usage around 80%, so I don't think there's much point fighting for 20% :D

That would make out of the 16.5k RAC for that machine nearly 20k, maybe even more as it would eliminate all the small breaks between WUs (note that every MW WU consists out of 5 small WUs, hence "bundle5", every 20% there's a short break in GPU crunching while the next sub-WU loads). Definitely worth trying I'd say.


maybe.
this sytem will run the RTX A2000 and a Quadro K2200 as soon as I receive the dual PCIe motherboard. I probably won't bother fine tuning this hybrid system ;D
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Message 75116 - Posted: 6 Mar 2023, 15:26:00 UTC - in response to Message 75114.  
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Both should be able to run 2 Milkyway WUs simultaneously.
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Message 75120 - Posted: 6 Mar 2023, 17:35:04 UTC - in response to Message 75116.  

I know and they do 😉😉
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